HNK Introduction, Shuren and vs. Battle against Raoh

[MrVampiro22]

1:04 badass voice lol....

[MrVampiro22]

shuren-blaze of hnk

[FuckinSeriousBusines]

I love how the horse just doesn't give a shit about having two burning men on his back.

[MightyTumur3384]

@FuckinSeriousBusines That, the fact that Kokuoh wasn't bothered about Rei, Toki or pre-power up Kenshiro and the fact he easily survived a punch from Kenshiro just shows how strong Kokuoh really is.

[FuckinSeriousBusines]

@MightyTumur3384 Kokuoh is one tough motherfucker; this is also well showed in the "Ten no Haoh" series.

[jadefox56]

Shuren is beast but died as a man but roah is just a fool

[nigeuldemby1]

Roah is a BEAST!!!!!!

[solidus2197]

Rei of fire

[omganotherun]

1:25 I'd cry too if Raoh was coming to kick my ass.

[PVenning]

Fuckin Raoh....

[sec0ndevolution]

0:01 Ugliest mook ever.

[fastold]

I was moved how loyal shurens troops were to him even would fight raoh for him if he gave the order while raohs troops fought for him out of fear for being killed for being disloyal or being a coward

[cloudstrife1256]

@fastold Good observation! It's the little things in this story that we seem to miss, lol.

[tibijedi]

CV : 若本規夫

[aroundtheworlda]

Ken Oh is badass

[MrJacobYBM]

Man, I love Wakamoto Norio!

[Turtelin]

really embarassing death for a Nanto warrior. Only Hyuui killed with one punch was worst

[Fishcake21]

Man, Norio only had a short scene in this but it was awesome until Raoh fucked him up!

[RSXemperor85]

@kendux999 Shut the fuck up and go drown in a lake you pussy ass bitch. THUMBS DOWN THIS COCK SUCKER! KEN-OH COMMANDS IT!

[kendux999]

@RSXemperor85 are you American, sir? you use words that I don't understand very well.

[kendux999]

@RSXemperor85 are you left winged, sir?

[shadowkill546]

Dammit, it must be so hard to have a leader like Shuren killed in such away before his armies eyes.

[Rygith]

Lol, Kokouh-go was like "Can you guys speed up this conversation, my back's is kinda ON FIRE"

[iamhungey12345]

FLAME ON!

Roah: Fail *breaks human torch's neck*

[whizufriz]

Good thing he took out that Life In-Shuren-ce Policy

[raisukeuzarachi]

Man Shuren should have been around a little longer before dying. He's so awesome with his goddamn FLAMING FISTS

[Maryukujin]

Imagine the balls it must take to even try to fight Raoh? And then get back up after he damn near killed you and try to kamikaze him?

Shuren had some fucking balls.

[DaibloDBZ2010]

Norio Wakamoto voices a character called "Shuren" in Hokuto no Ken

Norio Wakomoto is best known as Cell from DBZ

Tōru Furuya voices Yamcha in DBZ

Tōru Furuya goes on to voice a character called "Shuren" in Bleach

Coincidence?

[CaptainMotherfucker2]

0:16 Shuren is a commie

[MultiVale76]

Rimane rey l'uccello d'acqua

[JeanCossutti]

@MultiVale76 Sicuramente. Penso che Rei sarebbe riuscito ad oscurare anche la luce di ken. Per quello lo hanno fatto morire. Io però shuren lo stimo veramente troppo. E' quasi il mio modello di vita :D (si è sparata grossa) ma è come concepisce shuren che mi affascina. Oltre al dovere verso il 6^ generale (yuria) c'è anche la rabbia per la morte per Fratello/amico Wein

[MultiVale76]

JeanCossutti hai ragione..ma il migliore di nanto

[Mantine84]

This is the most underappreciated thing to happen in HNK. Raoh twists his head all the way around and then smashes it while they're both on fire.

[im50yearsold]

Well, At least he did better than Hyuui

[MultiVale76]

Bellissimo shuren!!

[JeanCossutti]

@MultiVale76 Il migliore delle 5 forze di nanto

[Domination4eva]

I like how Norio Wakamoto was the first voice actor for Raoh, only to be killed by him several episodes later ;P

[MightyKombat]

I just realised something.

They sya Wakamoto is a god.

Here he is slaughtered effortlessly by Raoh.

Did they just suddenly show Raoh somehow taking the throne form Wakamoto or did we just see the epic battle between Wakamoto and Kenji Utsumi, and seeing Utsumi show his real strength for the first and last time?

Jesus Christ, Raoh is stronger than we first thought.

[paidaros1988]

How was it possible that wakamoto-voiced character lost?

[MightyKombat]

If Wakamoto was beaten by Raoh, what coudl possibly stop the Ken-oh from conquering heaven?

[barbm001]

fighting roah with mindlessly jumping on him is the worst thing rei, hyui and shuren made. they didnt think of any strategy. if you notice they were almost killed the same way with raoh still on his horse.

[pattarawuth]

What a BRUTAL death!

[Raoh]

4:37 now thats a big fist.

[marionette915]

懐かしいね 風と炎は原作で兄弟です。

[B2Furlow]

INDEED ROAAHHHHHH RAGE head twist crush throw ever

[Hellstinger]

Norio Wakamoto one of the best.

[wickiezulu]

Even though Shuren is weak against Raoh, I still like the way he dispatches the mohawk thugs along with how the remaining thugs are in awe of him until his death.

[LelouchCommandsYou]

"Gosha Enjou Ken! touch me and be engulfed by my flames of anger" pretty epic aint he.

[ninjachipzanuff]

is that norio wakamoto?!

[Magitek111]

Yes, yes it is.

[MightyKombat]

I don't get why Shuren lost. I mean, the man's only voiced by NORIO WAKAMOTO after all.

[hellz010101]

wow you dont even know whats weak. heres weak. all of the usual thugs ken fights. shins jacks (heart is a little better but weak as he relys alot on his fat). and then jagi. yuda is not weak he is just not as strong as raoh or anyone else who is above the average hnk fighter. some of the gento kouken actually gave kenshiro a good fight as for soria ken even said he will remember him. and when ken says it its true. han was powerful (he had to be to be kaiohs third in command).

[hellz010101]

raoh is just more powerful. all of the goshasei (except juza) are actually alone probably as strong as shin or rei. and we know rei and shin never touched raoh (rei's was proven and shin's can only be assumed as he should be as strong as rei or a little weaker). juza is considered as strong as raoh but still lost due to luck being on raohs side.

[Chemicalkinetics]

I am not sure if luck as much to do with juuza losing to Raoh. He was considered as equal when they were young, but clearly Raoh has surpassed him.

[Thafate]

actually juuza was stronger than raoh when he was young and he could of killed him

[LelouchCommandsYou]

did you even see juzas fight? he landed blows that rei, shin, hyuui, shuren, and Rihaku couldnt even manage. and i dont want to bring up the tragic death of fudo as it completely makes me feel dead inside my soul. fuck you destiny. why did you have to go off killing one of the greatest men i have ever seen!

[Chemicalkinetics]

Lelouch

That is my point. You can argue Rei was unlucky against Raoh, but you cannot argue Juuza was unlucky lost to Raoh. With all his power and successful strikes on Raoh, he was not able to topple Raoh. At that point, it is not about luck. Juuza simply does not have the ability to defeat Raoh.

[LelouchCommandsYou]

and how would rei be unlucky when raoh literally saw what would happen if he didnt do what he did? if juza was giving all those strikes that worked quite well its only natural that he was just as good. if he wasnt just as good then he would have not even been able to last as long as he did. along with his will power. rei just wasnt good enough to land any good blows at all and was to weak to fight without his special suicide move (danko sosai ken).

[Chemicalkinetics]

Lelouch

Simple. Rei executed a move which would trade his life for Raoh. In executing this pure offensive move, he left himself open. Raoh counter appropriately but the manga states Rei has the raw power to kill Raoh. The situation is reversed for Juuza. Juuza was able to get Raoh to completely open and delivered his ultimate move, but was not about to hurt him. This means Juuza does not even has the raw power to match Raoh.

[LelouchCommandsYou]

and since when was raw power everything?

[Chemicalkinetics]

I didn't say raw power is EVERYTHING. Stop the straw man argument. However, raw power is the very foundation. A mosquito cannot defeat me not because the mosquito is slow, but because it lacks the raw power. Raoh was toying with Juzza because he wants to know the identity of the last General. Raoh could have escaped Juzza's arm lock, but he tried to get information. Raoh could have killed him instead of using Hikou Kaiamon Tencho. The fight did end much earlier in manga.

[Chemicalkinetics]

In fact, Juuza was twice able to trick Raoh into his best moves, Gekiheki Haisuishou and the wrestling arm twisting move and neither has significant effect on Raoh. Not even close. It is like mosquito successfully attack me by biting me repeatedly but unable make a real impact. Successful attack does not make someone stronger. Rei's attack is significantly stronger, there is no deny of that. The manga clearly states that he could have taken Raoh's life. Juuza never has that ability.

[LelouchCommandsYou]

where does it state that juza never had the ability? and raoh was bleeding quite a bit from the first strike. and was suprised by his abilities. if he was that much weaker raoh wouldnt have been suprised and the fight would have ended much quicker.

[Chemicalkinetics]

Where does it state Juuza had no ability to kill Raoh? The fact that he couldn't seriously injure Raoh after he executed his best move, maybe? The same reason why Shuren is weak. Not because the fight ended early but because Shuren couldn't hurt Raoh with his ultimate move. That proves Shuren is not on the same league as Raoh. On the other hand, Koryuu is considered strong even the fight was short. Koryuu was executing his ultimate move but stop short by Raoh. That does not make him weak.

[LelouchCommandsYou]

theres a diffrence though in shuren and juza. shuren couldnt spil a drop of blood from raoh. and how do we know juza actually used his best move? and perhaps why he lost was destiny. i heard somwhere it was destiny that the goshasei would die protecting the last general (except rihaku).

[Chemicalkinetics]

Oh I agree. Juuza is much stronger than Shuren. His best move was the one which stroke Raoh. Well, if we want to go back to legend and destiny, the six main starts of Nanto Rokushu are destined to be strongest and most important of the Nanto, which includes Rei. Juuza is a member of Nanto Goshasei, who are protector stars for the Yuria who is one of the six main stars. Juuza is not the main six stars if you like to talk about destiny.

[LelouchCommandsYou]

and raoh even commented on juzas power stating it to be like a gods. thats not saying hes weak. and the reason juza was unlucky was simply because he got hit by the pressure point attack when he charged him to use his first attack almost as if he knew he would get hit doing that.

[Chemicalkinetics]

Juuza is not completely weak, I don't think that was my point. He is just weak compared to Raoh.  The move you mentioned is Juuza's best move and it was indeed powerful which is why Raoh praised him, but it was not enough to topple Raoh. From then on, Raoh was just toying him and trying to get information. The fight basically ended a long time ago.

[LelouchCommandsYou]

didnt raoh comment on his style and not his technique?

[Chemicalkinetics]

Depends. Raoh comments on both Juuza's style and move. He commented that Juuza's style must have weakness when they first fight before Juuza stole his horse and later commented his move after Juuza stroke him with the powerful move.

It is debatable Rei or Juuza is stronger. Rei belongs to the main six stars. The strongest argument for Juuzais that Raoh had to get off from his horse to fight Juuza, something he didn't have to do with Rei -- an argument you didn't use.

[LelouchCommandsYou]

i forgot that raoh was fighting off his horse. but he also did that for fudo but fudo was still weaker in style. it was other things contributing to his fight. like his will power of course and the childrens look in their eyes. which brought fear to raoh like even though fudo was losing it felt like raoh would lose.

[Chemicalkinetics]

Fudo is incredibly strong (natural strength) and able to take up a lot of damage from Raoh. It was never mentioned that he learned any martial art. In his fight against Raoh, he was basically a punching bag. He wasn't able to land one successful attack on Raoh. Still, Raoh has to get off his horse to fight Fudo because Fudo is physically strong. My impression is that Fudo has the strength to damage Raoh, but not the skill, whereas Hyuii has the skill, but no strength.

[crissxxx]

Still Fudo isnt that strong for Raoh,only at the ending of the anime we see Raoh real power,i dont belive he was at 100% when fighing Fudo.I believe he was just trying to distroy his fear Fudo gave him when he was still a student.

[SlasherQ8]

@Chemicalkinetics Juuza is not weak compare to Raoh and yes he is much stronger than Rei just because he is not from the main nanto doesn't make him automaticlly weaker if you saw the flash back where Raoh and toki trying to get eggs from the tree even Ryuken warned Raoh not to underestimate Juuza because he is equel to him except without the use of Hokuto Shinken in other word Juuza = Raoh without Hokuto Shinken.

[Chemicalkinetics]

@SlasherQ8 Yes, I am very aware of the Ryuken conversation about Juuza, and I understand that Juuza does not have to be weaker than Rei. However, it is also stated that the main nanto six branches are supposed to be the strongest, just like the fact than Hokuto shin ken should be the strongest of all Hokuto no ken. Does it HAS TO be? No, but it is expected.

[foedusitalicum]

@SlasherQ8 Juuza is a lot weaker than Raoh in term of physical strenght. Is a lot more effective than other fighters because Hokuto Shinken give the ability to foresee moves (else Souther would have destroyed Kenshiro even without secret) but Juuza style is impossible to foresee. Still Juuza would beat Rei not because he has the better tecnique, but because he is a battle genius like Shachi while Rei is hot blooded and a little naive in battle.

[SlasherQ8]

@Chemicalkinetics it didn't say anything about Juuza best move all it was cleared that Raoh saying it's so powerful like a of a god but the reason it wasn't enough to defeats Raoh because Raoh blocked half of the attack if you noticed he even said it.

[gigantor21]

He IS up against a Kenji Utsumi character, though. :p

[n00bcakey]

im surprised the horse didn't get hurt though.

[fran9201]

Raoh reminds me of Balrog from Lord of the Rings.

[Raoh]

LOL WTF why?

Raoh reminds me of Lu Bu.

[fran9201]

hehe that guy at 0:01 looks like a monkey.

[Jonasvalgo]

They had pretty good-lookin armor :D

[grogmaninteractive]

Shuren is the best :P

[Eyeseayu]

What are you talking about? This guy is trash. Ken-oh broke all his bones, twisted his neck, and crushed his head leaving his body in FLAMING MANGLED MESS. If I were Shurens troops my morale would have sunk having seen my leader destroyed like that.

[grogmaninteractive]

I think they have dedicate a part too short of the cartoon to this character...the episode with his brother Wein is longer and shows better his characteristics. I like Shuren for his style, he would be a great trasher/metaller ^^, and his power joins Nanto syle with fire, 2 things i love :D ...i know, he dies really fast, but c'mon, he must fight against one of the best Hokuto fighters...he knows he will lose, but he sacrifies himself (and his castle) in honour of his brother. Too understimated

[Turtelin]

@grogmaninteractive hope you're joking, he like Hyuui both killed asweak mosquitos. One of the shortest confrontations in all the series between masters

[grogmaninteractive]

@Turtelin Hahaha XD My messagge is so embarassing, probably i was drunk ò_ò However I still like that character.

[kengokyo]

Ｒａｏｈつよすぎｗ

[maddoxfanx]

"Le Massacre"

[willcutu]

Raoh is ruthless

[wrath231]

Awesome seiyuu for Shuren...same guy who does Cell in DBZ...

[aquarianbabe]

my favorite guy out of the goshasei was juza...he was a soldier until the end and a little bit past it. Most of these dudes were supposed to be lame unfortunately. These dudes were just used to show everyone what a BA Raoh was.

[larze85]

A brief but intense time he was awarded, one would think the sheere devotion of his would have lended him a greater death. I might aswell ask here does anyone know the name of the trumpet song in the background? been boogling me a while.

[Kikuyo2]

The trumpet song is "Silent Survivor" instrumental.

[nutopiran]

no it's not, At least not the one when shuren says o really? That's the one i'd like to hear

[Giraux]

Truly a great character who had a lot of potential. It's a shame he was defeated so effortlessly by Raoh.

[nantosensei]

episode 95-97 its when raoh starts killing the goshasei

[bdub24j]

Raoh was bitch slappin' folks all thru the series. Loved the fear that came when he showed up.

[mrnaji]

that's because raoh was THE LAW so he can do whatever he pleases

[lycurgus33]

Talk about having "hot hands".

[xxxbankaixxx]

Does anybody know what episode this is from? This clip is amazing.

[lycurgus33]

I'm sure he would have been great at a barbeque.

[xxmuraxx]

Shuren was a pretty awesome character but it seems the few minutes he's introduced in the series, he dies...

[lycurgus33]

Burning devotion, get it? Heheheh. Anyhow it's better to burn out then to fade away.

[Raoh]

RAOH crushed that faggot fire fucks head with ease.

[wmauleg]

wow!

[jenova9]

incredible

[LongBeach2SanDiego]

raoh is a fuckin' "G".

[8BitManiac]

Powerful stuff here