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  • so, every other religion.. what happens to them? even if they were good people but did not follow islam becoz they didnt think it was right or was born in a cristian family so beleived in that, will tht mean he or she will go to hell????

  • @annarell786 ALLAH GUIDES WHO HE PLEASES.ISLAM IS HERE AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN HERE--SOME CHRISTIANS WILL GO TO HEAVEN AND MOST WONT GO TO HEAVEN..ISLAM IS SIMPLY BELIEVING IN ONE GOD SO IF YOU BELIEVE IN ONE GOD YOU ARE MUSLIM. WHEN CHRIST SPOKE HE TAUGHT ISLAM. ISLAM MEANS "THE SUBMSSION TO GOD" SO YES YOUR CHILDREN WILL HAVE TO ANSWER TO ALLAH.YOU WILL BE JUDGE BY YOUR ACTIONS IF YOU DONT KNOW THE MESSAGE OF ALLAH. BUT YOU SHOULD TELL YOUR CHILDREN NOW.

  • @beatmonstaznyc

    If i think about life after death then i also start to think about the abstractnes of being.

    who said that what we perceive and know to be normal is realy all that there is to excistance?

    if there is life after death then who am i? who are you? maybe there is just only one soul and we call it god , but it could be in reality that we are that soul , i am you and you are me and everyone is the same spirit but in a different body.

    Creepy but Think about it.

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  • @youssef649 The truth about Islam hurts you right? You go around insulting Muslims, because it hurts that Christians and Jews are converting to Islam. You are not even below the dirt Muslims walk on.

  • @youssef649 The truth about Islam hurts you right? You go around insulting Muslims, because it hurts that Christians and Jews are converting to Islam. You are not even below the dirt Muslims walk on.

  • islam means submission, so it don't prove that it is god's religion, if it were really god's religion it wouldn't need any name cause it would be THE religion, but islam is the religion of submission and not the one of god

  • @thecrazysinner90 LOL THE religion is the one where the worshipper has to worship the true god, ISLAM = Submission to the true god

  • The true religion of God? Well this is an extremly strong point, like many other religions have their strong arguments as well, and most of them make a lot of sense in their essence, where this guy looses me it's on that title. Most religions (specially Abrahamic religions) believe that God is beyond human understanding and we are not worthy of His glory and majesty. If we understand God to the point that we can say that we know His religion for mankind, does that mean that we're at his level?

  • @cotufa3000 God is defo beyond human understanding, as in the attributes of god. However, us knowing about God through what he tells us is simply that - what he tells us...for example, one of the chapters of the Qur`an - Surah Al Ikhlas has this to say:

    Say: ‘He is God, One

    Allah , the Eternal Refuge.

    He neither begets nor is born,

    Nor is there to Him any equivalent."

  • Of course it requires for you to stick up for your faith..why wouldn't or shouldn't it? That was SO obviously easy, what "else" would one expect ? The very SAME is true for others. Same old story here- humans being tribal, it always ends up that " we" are the correct faith. I disagree though- MUCH proof exists on the compulsions of people in their relgion- Like the compulsion to believe in it, or "go to hell"= Enough to make ANY person compulsive towards it.-Whew !

  • @gblueslover2 - Just like you have the compulsion to disbelieve, which allows you to do what ever you like, am i right gblue?...but on what proofs do you base your compulsion to disbelieve?

  • @utubevideniskey OK, But let's COVER and STUDY the phrase" There's no compulsion in religion" Your book says there isn't when indeed there is PLENTY of compulsive behavior...! Why ? I don't think you can explain why that statement is actually FALSE, when it claims to be TRUE.

    How do you deal with the falsehood of that quote ?

  • @gblueslover2 - very simple the falsehood is not in the quote is directly in your mind for if there was compulsion you would be following the teachings of Islam...but you are not am i right?

  • @utubevideniskey But there IS compulsion in religion, as evidenced by those whom follow it. Compulsive behavior indeed, when you started your one paragraph with " Just like you have "...etc. "Just like", hey ? Are you now steering away from what you've said, or was that a error on your part ? Make yourself more clear on that " Just like" stuff.

  • @gblueslover2 - You chose to disbelieve partly on the grounds of what OTHER PEOPLE DO...My reasoning involved searching for the truth of our purpose and being where ever i found it, it happened to be Islam the practises of those who i agree are not allways right didnt and dont concern me as to my faith..As for compulsion, there is no compulsion in religion because i can not force it on anyone i can simply convey the message. (you i assume mistake this for compulsive behavior).

  • @utubevideniskey You're partly right, would be correct. Also partly on what other people DON'T (do). Whatever a person finds, and in your case you include the dual inclusion of "our" (purpose") in the vibe I got from your meaning. Our is a big word, and as in my case, I use it too, because I notice the tribal nature of people, even within the supposed highest religious positions. One thing for certain, @ least for me: I see the parallells in nature & human behavior - It points to evolution

  • @gblueslover2 - evolution has been falsified in every step since its beginning. More so now then ever since the discovery of the cell and its complexity...some describle the single cell as practically a city by itself... over 100 trillion in our body replicating each self the nucleus containing the exact blueprint of yourself information so vast coded in DNA we would fill 900 BOOKS 500 pages thick ->

  • @utubevideniskey Man is on his way to that quest utuber, Ever hear of Craig Venter ? He made big news 3 weeks ago as his assembled team of experts created a sythnthectic life form from scratch, for the very first time.I think the news was recent. May 20, 2010.Search for Craig Venter synthectic life as your keywords. I was VERY impressed, myself.

  • @gblueslover2 man has only ever done and will ever do is discover and marvel then copy creation and what ever has been copied is a million miles off...whatever is COPIED is made by elements from the creation....man has made jack shit..but i will have a look at this!

  • @utubevideniskey Definately dude, look at it, it really is big news, again, I was very impressed by it.

    FYI- I do respect you for your beliefs and am glad you are a happy individual with your beliefs. If you feel fulfilled and are a peaceful man and rspect others, which I believe you do, then keep up your happiness, I do wish you well, and that's from the bottom of my heart. !

  • @utubevideniskey

    In your opinion.

  • @utubevideniskey

    lol funny fundie

  • @gblueslover2 - The human cant even create a single protein the building blocks of life which are composed of hundreds of different amino acids bonding with each other in a particular order...evolution gblue is a totally unscientific fairy tale and this materialistic dogma is upheld by evolutions because by acception intelligent design means accepting creation- they have conditioned themselves not to accept this truth.

  • @utubevideniskey And "compulsion" is the aftermath of a any compulsive behavior.

    Your meaning of compulsion might be of that to say that you cannot compell anyone to believe...I dunno.... depends upon the person who recieves the submission of information given..

  • @utubevideniskey PART of my dsibelief is based on the evidence of human tribal behavior- The evidence is CLEAR that humans parallell nature in their behavioral nature. "Us against THEM" is evidenced in the torah, the quiran AND the bible. Everybody's ready for battle o some level or another, and these doctrines parallell what evolution has taught us to DO. - A mere confirmation of where we came. Now please answer "my" question. Thank You

  • @gblueslover2 - The evidence of human tribal behaviour and the causes of it are explained in the Qur'an in detail, if you want to know buy a translation and read..you may not agree with it but then atleast your right to convey an argument on the subject will hold some weight

  • @utubevideniskey What's read as compared to what's evidenced are 2 different things. I don't know how well you've read human history and observed it, but the hallmarks of human behavior would lead to the fact we evolved, pretty easy stuff. Christians= Catholics, Baptists,Protestants, etc. Muslims = Shias, Nation of Islam, Sunni, Wahabi.etc. Jews = Hassidic, Orthodox. Messianic, etc. ALL this time goes by, they all still INSIST to be BRANDED as such = Where's the lesson learned here amongst them?

  • If what Muslim by choice was saying would be TRUE, then there wouldn't be Sunnis, Shias, Whabi, Nation of Islam, etc- They would have been MUCH more TRUE to their beliefs and NOT have all those sects as other religions do as well.

    This so called TRUE "logic" falls flat on it's face in the name of human behavior, because ALL living things form groups & compete- JUST EXACTLY like evolution has TAUGHT us to behave...

  • @gblueslover2 - This is your logic gblue, you not being able to see past this. Knowing why they differ which is true and which isnt and why they have come about. Rather then discover this you have just brushed it off and said ok it cant be true...others reason more then this logic you have

  • @utubevideniskey So then, I have arrived at the question I must ask you. What makes your beliefs more valid than others ? Another question- Of which islamic sect do you hold yourself nearest to, and why ?

  • @gblueslover2 - I have already answered this, I follow the Qur'an and the sunnah of the prophet as do the vast majority of muslims, my beliefs are not based on my own agenda or assumption of a particular part and disregard other, i try my best to follow it all.

  • @utubevideniskey As other people of your religion follow the Qu'ran also, but with the obvious difference that " they " identify themselves as a Shia muslim, a Wahabi muslim or a Nation of Islam muslim..All muslims indeed but with twist, but with a special blend, or identitiy. As I said before too, other religions do this too.

  • @gblueslover2 - Whats your point gblue? i never denied this!...There are many many ways in life to do things wrong but usually there are few ways to do things right!..Its for you to search for the correct way...the truth! if you are sincere in your search you will find it...One thing is clear all these muslims are united with 1 book the Qur'an which they all agree is the word of God...

  • @gblueslover2 - secondly practically everyone of these religions have 1 THING in common in their scripture, God is __ONE__he is UNLIKE ANYTHING IN HIS CREATION...now you decide which people still follow this very basic first and formost fundamental teaching in their scripture!...be it christian, hindu or bhuddist

  • @utubevideniskey Humans are tribal, EVEN within the same religion. This behavior is unaviodable, because as humans, this behavior is part of our evolutionary makeup, as this is another remnant of the survival instict. Ever notice that in life, nothing is ever "settled" ? And with this, religion promises closure on this very thing.

  • @gblueslover2 - Humans can coexist if their evil carnal souls are controlled by follow the legislation the commands of almighty God. He is the ONE that created us and so He knows what is best for us...Those whom follow their own desires become tribal it has nothing to do with evolution...Infact this is what evolution teaches which is how this ideology came about..

  • @utubevideniskey They can't because they nevr have. I'm seeing that you have "hope" for mankind IF they follow what the Qu'ran says. However, as I've covered before there is no evidence of it. Not only are there STILL problems between sects within SAME religions, but there are big problems with what other doctrines say as compared to others. It's a competitive world out there, and in the backdrop of all this you have billions saying " If only they'd follow OUR doctrine"

  • @gblueslover2 - No offence gblue but your way of thinking is clearly one to look at the front cover of the book and throw it aside with out turning that page to discover whats inside!

  • @utubevideniskey So, there's no evidence of everyone co-existing.= Nothing's ever settled. One can only come to terms with his own beliefs, and decide what to do from there. There will always be problems, disagreements, agruments, anger, hate, distrust, dislike and there will be compromises followed by more of the same. One MUST join a side, only if he feels obligated to do so. I don't feel any obligation to follow any doctrine, due to it's competitive spirit.

  • @utubevideniskey And finally, in order for anyone to believe that they are seeking the right path, they must obviously deny and/or reject out of hand what others doctrines teach and/or instruct them to do. -That's where people find amusment, project ridicule and provide their "evidence" that "Other religions are teaching/preaching false doctrine, WE are the 'way". This behavior is inescapable, and i choose to resist the tribal effort of conversion toward me attempted by others.

  • @gblueslover2 - Like is not a fight for survival...this is the mindset of one who has no answers for his purpose and his being. I was like that once and i am so greatful i have come out of that darkness.

  • @utubevideniskey Understood, but your choice of faith REQUIRES you discount the other faiths, and critisizes them accordingly. I've heard it all. Funny thing 2 years ago, a knock @ my door. 2 Jehova's witnesses..I asked them WHY all relgions claim "Other religions are teaching / preaching false doctrine" Answer: "Give us 15 minutes of your valuable time & we will show you why ours is the correct one" They all do this.

  • @gblueslover2 - It DOES NOT REQUIRE we discount other faiths to Qur'an specifically states THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION...no matter how hard i try i can not FORCE you to join my faith because you may claim so but if its not by your own free will whats the point?...What we are required however is to always speak the truth and admonish falsehood...

  • @utubevideniskey Compulsion, defined...

    > A compulsion is a repetitive, excessive, meaningless activity or mental exercise that a person performs in an attempt to avoid distress or worry.<

    I'm sure your brain thinks about heaven, and it's possible rewards alot.

  • @gblueslover2 - Far more then yours i assume?

  • The only way for anyone to be saved, both before and after Jesus Christ died on the cross, is by faith in Gods work of atonement on the cross. This includes the old Testament saints who were looking forward to the Messiah, Jesus Christ.

    Great video!

  • @themalina92 - Jesus christ (pbuh) said keep the commandments and he did not come to abolish them, paul however and his teachings abandoned the commandments. infact everything paul teaches is the opposite of what Jesus (pbuh) taught....so the question arises are you a follower of Jesus christ (pbuh) then you can call yourself a christian it would make sense or are you a paulian- follower of paul? (the killer of the true christians)

  • @utubevideniskey AS you can WELL tell, you will ALWAYS have what YOUR religion says as compared to what others " say". Let's also include the details of of sunni, shia, nation of islam, wahabi, etc differences. Even though you might ALL call yourselves Islamic, your sects INSIST that you all remain " Special " unto your CHOSEN groups. HUGE evidence here of human evolution via the insistance of "US" (Our sect) and " THEM" (Their sect)= VERY tribal, very obvious as to what's occuring here....

  • @gblueslover2 - You must ask yourself, how do sects come about?...usually when people ASSUME something that is not written in the text!...The vast majority of muslims follow the Qur'an and sunnah (prophets sayings) yes theres a small minute few who have assumed things just as over 1 billion people assumed Jesus is God-did he ever say he is God? or worship me-your salvation depends on it?

  • @utubevideniskey I've asked that question- The answer is boith simple & complex= Answer- Humans are tribal, as they naturally form groups & compete on MANY levels of life, with religion being just one aspect of life. Our differences make us tribal& our tribal ness make us different. There's NO DOUBT here as to the root cause= Evolution. Survival makes every species form groups & compete, we are no different.

  • @themalina92 - if you followed the teachings of Jesus christ (pbuh) you find yourself no different from the Muslim!

  • @themalina92 You're NO Different than any other religion out there, insisting that "YOUR" teachings are tyhe correct one. You'll all never EVER agree as to which doctrine is the correct ONE, all the while the doctrines are definately contradictive not only towards each other, but to themselves as well.

    Good luck with all that !

  • Oh Allah please help open the eyes of the non believers, I pity them. I know Allah guides whom he wills, Alhumdullila he guided me and I pray Allah keeps us all in the straight path always, Amen.

  • @ASA753 You're forgetting something more pointed and MUCH more important than the prayer you have submitted- Your religious competition is making the SAME prayers aimed at YOU, pointed in THEIR favor, for THEIR intentions, for THEIR religion, which to THEM is the "TRUE" religion...

    Now what ?

  • @gblueslover2 What u say is true, but it is a process of elimination, in life we should all go through the motions of trying 2 find the meaning of life not only as an individual but in every regard. Look into athieism, look into all scripture & when u find the truth u will know it.

  • @ASA753 I cannot do that, no matter how hard I try. I always end up analyzing the entirety of it all, the opposing competitive religions & their culture make me UNDERSTAND myself better, therefore then by NOT "falling" for anything. Due to the very intelligent nature of humans, they have massed tribes and liken themselves as "the ones" on any number of things. Once one sees this picture they CANNOT fall for anything other than the realization of what's occuring here.

  • @gblueslover2

    As 4 those prayers aimed at me 4 the same...... r from the point of a subjective experience, with no proof or logic 2 back it up. Islam is not only subjective but objective, with proof & logic.

    I hope u find that truth, inshalla.

  • @ASA753 As your opinion allows you to state such things, you cannot live your opposition's point of view, as they are "just" as convinced as you, for the knowledge they hold, of which mirrors the exact same feelings you have. Everyone's too caught up in what they " know" and are convinced of. Most "must" deny other's beliefs in order to put theirs above it= Tribal behavior, Typical " Us against THEM"

  • @ASA753 If you could only understand the entirety of it all...

  • @gblueslover2 I know what you're saying I've been there and now I can say the same to you...... if only you could understand the entirety of it all... I pray you do one day, it is a journey.

    But at least from what I can tell, inshalla you are on the right track in the sense that you haven't stopped thinking and analysing, far to many have stopped and many don't even bother.

    May i ask, have you read the Quran? and have you read it in Arabic?

  • @ASA753 I've read many pages of it, yes. I've read many pages of other doctrines, as well. Interestingly enough though- caution is where I lay best. I do not care for the "Us against THEM" encouragement that dwells among the pages of all religious doctrines, because it copies life itself. My gut feeling is that ever since man could communicate his thoughts into language and especially text, he has expressed his agressive & violent side, saying that god is this way, too.

  • @ASA753 When in fact, I believe it was through man's hand and mind these doctrines were written. If space/time are infinite to god, there would be no way that a god would recommend that "we" send "sinners" to their grave early for sins against doctrine, as mandated- That's nonsense to me, and man gets busted for writing this so called "word of god" out of the tribal need for revenge.

  • @ASA753 This cannot be, if indeed there "is" a god. No god would recommend that, if indeed they controlled space and time. Another thing- If life for us is a "Test" god is wasting his time judging, as he would already KNOW the outcome of anyone's fate. Doing this test for "us" would even be a bigger waste of our time knowing he already knew. Life's a test ?= Not logical, man gets busted again for authoring these doctrines.

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