Ford Th!nk City EV Protest - S.F. October, 2002

[numb1010]

is the think for sale in the us now? i drove one years ago, strange to hear no engine sound :)

[Redshift21]

In the light of recent events I wonder if Ford regret not sticking with the think...... probably not Ford management are fucking morons.

[jp7464]

Exactly what GM did with the EV1, When they get a model that they think will be popular they won't sell it to begin with, they only lease them so they have complete control over the outcome, and in the end they refuse to sell them to the public after they make them fall in love with them.

Remember GM took all the EV1's out into the AZ desert and crushed them even tho there was more people wanting to buy them than they had cars. There's a good movie on Google video about it. Just do a search.

[xmoddriver16]

HAHA exploding "Police Interceptions" that kill "police people" And your gonna be persuade by a stupid bitch in a wedding dress

[signsoflife7]

Ford was right not to fear the 20 people who protested.

The apathetic American public forgot the whole Th!nk thing in a matter of days.

As with government, the people get the cars they deserve.

You could never mobilize enough of the American cattle public to change any car maker's mind. They know the vast majority just take what they're given.

At $4 a gallon people are still buying idiotic SUVs and driving like selfish boneheads.

If you want an EV make it yourself.

[sondano]

and how would we produce the energy that tens of millions of EV car would use? by burning more coal and gas. How original.

[signsoflife7]

Sorry. but the idea that we'd have non-stop blackouts is not realistic because EVs will be bought gradually.

We're not going to have millions of them overnight.

And they'd be mostly charged at night, not during peak daytime hours.

It is the EV's efficiency when using the energy produced by the coal/nuclear power that makes it more effective than the internal combustion engine.

Only 15-20% of the energy produced by an ICE actually moves the car.

In EVs, the number is 85%.

[theslimeylimey]

You should check out liveoilfree on YT. He has an all electric Rav4 that has financed his home solar system with the fuel savings over the last few years and actually gets paid for the excess power he generates during the day and uses the credit to recharge off peak at night.

[signsoflife7]

Thanks Limey. His research is excellent.

Sondano, that's not quiet correct. Utility company bosses have gone on record as stating they can handle widespread EV use, this 'non-stop blackout' stuff is fiction. And as not one single major car maker has committed to a timeline for any EV introduction we're not looking at tens of thousands of EVs suddenly appearing.

GM's 'Volt' will be late, and will cost $40k +

As for Ford/Chrysler/Toyota/Honda...

A lot of talk but no action.

Time to DIY.

[devja71]

it's amazing the same auto company that built a car as perfect as the 56 crown victoria could turn around and do this to us. bloody greedy politics

[janebusby]

This is nothing but a PR stunt.

Big badge auto makers make these electric cars to make themselves look good. There is more profit in building & maintaining the combustion engine unfortunately. So they have these 'eco cars' ready for production, but will ONLY produce them at the LAST available moment! IE. Either when the small independent firms make EVs which threaten to outsell their conventional cars or when gas runs out!!! They're about as committed to the cause as Exxon or Mr. Bush are!

[Rickdeckard2020]

I totally agree!

Some of the big owners behind Big Badge US Auto makers also happen to own vast stakes in Big Oil too.

Ethanol and Hydrogen are red herrings to divert attention from 100% electric cars (or plug-in hybrids with a 100% electric capability, unlike Prius) that could be sold NOW!

Big Oil have been buying battery pattents to keep EVs out...

...but it looks like they may go for a 'Battery Rental' Racket for EVs, so the captive consumers still pay them on a continual basis

[theslimeylimey]

janebusy: You hit the nail on the head there.

Also, solar electric power is not economic for home use because the cost of the system is so high. BUT, if you have a plug electric car, the fuel savings DO make it economical and you can essentially be off-grid and paid for in only a few years and your energy costs then drop to near zero. I think this is a huge threat to oil and private power producers.

[janebusby]

'Theres not enough market for the Think' ???

What a pile of HORSE SHIT!

[GANTZ100pts]

Man i cant believe they did this i live in WA(state) and i never even heard of this car. tell now.... And now i want to buy one. Dumb a** ford scrapping the Th!nk

they just like all other car companies just love the idea of us having to buy new parts when stuff breaks down.

[badnewswade]

Wow, lease-only deals, refusing to actually sell the car or make more, lame excuses, hmmmm, just like the old EV1 - they're killing off one of their best cars because it's just too damn good. No spares, little servicing, cheap and efficient. CAN'T HAVE THAT!

[1985Porsche944]

the electric car in a good idea but you still have to get the energy from someplace meaning a perhaps fosil fuel plant for the electricity or a nuclear plant or somplace else. a good car that would be green compared to some of these would be a solar panel car with a battery of course

[ManRayDali]

As a matter of fact, many electric car owners have solar panels on the roofs of their houses that not only charge up the car, but power the entire house as well. The technology to do this has been available for over 20 years... Prices have actually come down to a level that pretty much anyone who can afford to buy a house can add solar panels. Even without solar panels, electricity from a well-regulated modern power plant is still much cleaner than millions of small gasoline engines.

[sondano]

Cleaner - if it's not a coal plant - but more expensive and much less efficient. Our current infrastructure could not support and EV dominated transportation sector, anyway. It would be a non-stop blackout.

[Heimdall01]

Production has started again in Norway. And orders are taken (for now only in Norway) But sales are expected to begin in other european countries in 2008.

Some specs: Range is now 180 km, Speed: 100 kmh, dual airbags, ABS brakes etc. Rumors have it they have made a deal with Tesla for even more range. webadress: w w w.think "dot" no

Greeting from Norway.

(Sry if typos or bad grammar. English is my 2nd forreign language!)

[Rickdeckard2020]

"Production has started again in Norway. And orders are taken (for now only in Norway)"

Hello there! Can you update us on the sales of Think?

How much does it cost?

I am displeased by the apparent scheme to "rent" batteries in the UK, is this also the case in Norway?

I really hope its only in the UK that this racket is used or that this only applies to 1 type of battery and that others can be bought with no strings attached (the site says more than one battery type is available)

[Heimdall01]

Hi Rich!

The price is rather high! In Norway it is aprox 190 000,- norw.kroner. (19 000 GBP)

BUT, Think Global say they will "align the prices to fit the overall prices in the respective country!" So I guess they will be a little less in the UK (?) Do you know the price in UK?

The renting scheme is also used in Norway. (100 GBP pr month!) Think say there will be an option to buy the battery pack. Never heard a price though!

The first cars should have been delivered in march 2008.

[Dilekz]

All company's where pulling those vehicles back.. and giving stupid reasons.

[cant7think7clearly]

What a pity. They seem like great little cars. No fuel, oil, servicing, parts etc. Why kill it?! It's the solution to so many problems!

[6of6]

The dealer mgr confirms the Th!nks werr good sellers! The Oil powers have all the American car mfg's by the balls. They all have scrapped their EVs. - Its embarassing.

[coolman79]

Of course they're retards...that's why they've had the worst sales in the past year. Wanna buy smart, buy a non gas guzzler (and more reliable) like a Honda.

[Nichen]

Damn you Ford you retards