I've watced this movie like 6 times and I am saying the same the same thing I say everytime after I've watched it...``FUCKTHISMOVIE!!! I am never watching this shit again!``
I've watced this movie like 6 times and I am saying the same the same thing I say everytime after I've watched it...``FUCKTHISMOVIE!!! I am never watching this shit again!``
I don't know. I watched this as i was 15 and really liked it . This time i must say this isn't really that good .Maybe it has a message - but really a simple one and its not really something new . Most of the time the movie is boring as hell and Jennifer Jason Leigh is horrible in this role . I am disappointed .
That said, DAMN every time i watch this. TOTAL MIND FUCK. A bit disturbing. But, some say that you MUST allow some disturbance and indeed even force some upon yourself to truly see yourself. The trouble is picking the one that won;'t drive you irrevocably insane. Then again, like the man said, INSANITY is a SANE RESPONSE to an INSANE world... makes you think, regardless.
looking at bacteria and other tiny forms of life, one could argue that stimulation is life's (and indeed, non-life's) great motivator. At the most basic (thus far) of levels, we react and act based on the presence or lack of stimulation, and subsequently our systems automatically act based on the need for whichever stimulation that part of us which is reacting or will react or act does respond to. Even a rock can move eventually if washed by the waters of a stream fora long enough time.
@AuglereDeRosenkinde but response, regardless of presence or absence of any stimulation, is not always what occurs... this i find interesting, and we can apply all sorts of ideas if we take this in context and apply it according to any sort of object or organism. Or idea, even. Apply Jung's principal of the subtle body, but, add in Ayn Rand's Objectivism. What do you get? I am not very able to verbalize any such result, being perhaps an undiagnosed Aspie, but, perhaps someone elseITS interesting
@AuglereDeRosenkinde take a pinch of liberal arts degree, stir in a mediocre intelligence, top off with a ton of self-importance = the shit you love to talk
lol when games get this realistic is the day, people will start slowly to become insane and confuse the game world with reality and start shooting people in the real world cuz they'll basicly wanna spend their lifes there cuz it's so funny :P eh fuck that ^^
That was an awesome movie......... If only games were that real. Can you imagine what training our solders would get if they could get the feel of killing someone in a game without the actual killing of someone gives new meaning to the word desensitization.
What is reality?! Yeah, same question asked by Inception, albeit less aggressively.
Apparently Inception was pitched to warner bros in 2001, just a couple of years after this. Matrix came out the same year and also explores simulated reality. Very postmodern subject matter...
Well, that was a dissapointment. Anyways, people commenting here about how real life might be unreal, should go to a psichiatrist, you know - the tech support guy;)
Reality ... What we can already do. Atoms - in short just pockets of energy. How can anything be really solid. They are finding out that all our cells, also from animals, plants are all digitally organized :), then its BrainGate - interesting they can connect brain to a computer - only works with compatible software:) makes me wonder what is real? Few movies on the topic: Matrix, Inception,my favorite at the moment is THIRTEENTH FLOOR (1999) ... what do you mean i am not real :D
The Matrix, Johnny Mnemonic, and eXistenZ are all based on the novel "Neuromancer" by William Gibson and "Simulacres et Simulation" by Jean Baudrillard; all attempt to interrogate technology's incorporation with existentialism (among other contrived philosophical dillemmas), and the importance of human individuality and freedom. But its all nonesense, this anti-technophilosophy only exists because technological evolution is a part of nature and people like to think they are not a part of nature.
@TheBlitz1 An easy argument against your weighted statement is that technological evolution is allowing for a single species to become so great in number and threat that the entire rest of the planet could potentially be wiped out by its existence. In nature, when this happens with any other species, it is considered unnatural or an anomaly.
@Daveyohwhat lol how could something that is happening in nature, not be natural. That doesn't make any sense. Thats like saying cancer isn't natural.
@TheBlitz1 Some hypothesize cancer & other diseases to be nature's way of culling the anomalous overgrowth of our species. Texts on ecology would tend to disagree with what you're saying. Are you speaking from your own personal opinion or have you received an education on the subject? Our leap forward in evolution (human intelligence) is argued to have been a genetic anomaly, a mistake. Your argument seems to be that anything that does happen happens because it's supposed to. That's not science.
@Daveyohwhat My argument doesn't have anything to do with things happening, it has to do with things existing. Something cannot exist outside of nature. Humans like to think they, society, and technology are not a part of natural evolution but they are.
@TheBlitz1 You're lumping conscious human thought and choice together with inorganic (radioactive), inanimate (rocks), and otherwise incidentally existing objects. Human intelligence may be incidental, but the imaginative choices which have us reaching beyond our grasp could easily be described as a genetic defect which has caused mental disfunction (or hyperfunction) and run rampant throughout the majority of our lineage. Why are you speaking in absolutes? Are you omniscient?
@Daveyohwhat It doesn't matter what your talking about, everything that exists - exists in nature, nothing is not natural, maybe a meteor, comet or asteroid could be classified as extra-natural, but since it exists inside of space its natural. The only way something could not be natural is if it entered this dimension from another dimension; even that being paranormal I would still classify as being a part of nature.
@TheBlitz1 Firstly: you're clearly baiting for an argument; that says a lot about your character. Secondly: logically, which one of us is more likely to be rambling... the one who has made dispassionate theoretical suggestions, or the one who continues to make grammatical & spelling mistakes and is now resorting to a personal attack? Comment back, if you'd like, but I feel like I'm wasting my time. In my opinion, you've made yourself out to be a rigid cynic.
@Daveyohwhat Also you can't explain yourself, because you don't know what your talking about, so you automatically start talking about the person you talking to.
@Daveyohwhat hahah think youre misusing colons (was tempted to say youre talking through them but that would be too cheesey) and you just mean punctuation and who gives a fuck?
@Daveyohwhat I personally don't agree with either you or TheBlitz1 but he does there is more species that are starting to use tools as part of their natural evolution. There has even been records of an octopus using coconut shells as sheilds. It doesn't seem that the use of tools is outside of natual evolution at all.
@TheBlitz1 maybe you should check the dictionary. natural just means existing or present by nature; inherent in the very constitution of a person or thing; innate; not acquired or assumed. you confusing natural with fatalism?
@Daveyohwhat Yes it does. Your saying that something on earth can't be natural, that doesn't make any sense, how can something which occurs in nature not be natural.
@mr69bones Kind of makes one ask whether one has been inspired by another, right? This concept is even older than eXistenZ, it has been used in the TV series named Gliders. And I think it might be even older.
What I like most about these movies is the fact that I can rely to them. When I write tales or novels, I use a technique similar to what the architect does in the movie Inception - I create world in my mind,create characters, then I let the story flow.The results sometimes surprise me.
@GuildyDawg What exactly was I supposed to learn? That Philistines such as yourself despise the thought that one day humanity will rely escapism in the form of alternate realities to avoid the day to day doldrums of a reality that may have no higher meaning? Or that technology is rapidly advancing and the resulting entertainment will be rather awesome regardless of the sentiments of great directors or YouTube users alike? I'm guessing to you I was supposed to learn the first. I'll stick with #2.
Far better than the Matrix which I feel was ALMOST a good film but marred by unnecessary comic book action. In this film you never know what is going to happen next. One of Cronenburgs best.
Also, I think the game is still going on at the end. The Ted and Allegra characters exhibit the same robot-ish movement and abrupt, stilted speech patterns in the final scene that they did during the game-within-a-game. But maybe they are just that way in real life (it's believable that poorly-adjusted ideologues willing to kill for their beliefs would act that way). Of course, it is a fictional story so anyone's guess of what was "really" happening is just as valid as anyone else's.
Comparing this film to the Matrix is silly. The Matrix was an extremely well-choreographed action flick with beautiful visuals but cheesy philosophical underpinnings (as we saw in the sequels). eXistenZ was a well-done exploration of serious, interesting philosophical issues with ugly visuals and cheesy action...but the ugliness and cheesiness are appropriate given that the game is supposed to be a primitive VR game, with some of the plot/dialogue drawbacks that 1980s text adventure games had.
my question is; are WE in a game? are we playing a game? are we actors or just characters? who are we to the outer reality? is this just a game? what happens when we die? how long have we been playing?
what if the answer to all this is:
there is no game. this is a dream, so what happens when we sleep? do we "wake up"? or do we go into a deeper dream? i rekon that the dream in this "reality" is us waking up and that sense of unreality ted felt earlier is what we feel in a dream
this movie seriously points out the ineffectuality of the progress of V.R gaming- one day humanity will create a game which is better than reality and when that happens- no-one will want to live outside of the game, it is a VERY serious problem- which is why for the V.R game i want to make there will be a limited usage per day ;)
@neonblast A much more interesting question is, would what you propose actually be a problem? We all strive for a happy existence, but if that was provided to us for free, would that be a good or bad thing? Is being a stressed, resource consuming, and frustrated being better then being a happy, relaxed and minimally resource consuming one, just because one is "real" and one is not? Just because our genes made us effective carriers of themselves doesn't mean that an existence as such is "better".
@Trubadidudei Why would VR players be less resource consuming than people living their real lives? The computing power required to keep one "fooled" would be enormous and require a lot of resources in itself, plus we would still need the same food, water and shelter that we need now.
The VAST majority of human consumption is not on food, water and basic shelter.
The vast majority of consumption revolves around comfort. Cars, big houses, more then needed food (that you can excercise off, consuming extra energy). Much of this come from completely non renewable sources.
Now, living in a VR would reduce the amount of needed food and water (less moving), and reduce the amount of needed comfort to almost 0. All of this is replaced by electricity, which is renewable.
@Trubadidudei I disagree. Not moving much leads to atrophy in the muscles, which is a downward spiral of less and less activity leading to even weaker muscles. You see this in elderly patients who finally end up bed ridden. For this to happen in younger people would be tragic. We can't just replace a million years of being built for hunting and foraging with a VR world.
That's a problem, and problems can be solved. Not moving is related to a whole range of problems, amongst that malformed bone tissue as well as muscle atrophy are some. My question is not really rooted in the practical issues though, and more with the philosophical ones
Besides, in the scenario which i was imagining, there would be no moving at all. The young people would newer experience being feeble even if their bodies would be.
@Trubadidudei but if everything would just fall into our hands for nothing why would we even bother doing anything anymore, ambition would be lost and fantasy and dreams meaningsless; sure we get frustrated a lot in life but if that would never happen would we still feel joy and gratitude for good things happening to us or would we simply start seeing it as a normality? and if that happens where would we end up getting happiness from once we reached that point?
@mapledelux yeah but a pretty high four, i mean, the possibilities behind it are endlessly flawed, which is why i would make a similar game, but in my game you can only play for 20 mins each day.
in these 20 mins, it will seem like hours becasue of the dreamstate.
But the great thing is we are going this way.... or are we there already?
I HIGHLY recommend everyone who looked this movie also look the documentary "what we still dont know - are we real" ..starts slow but you will see soon where it go.. google video id: 7044753105944203252 end of this..
no REALLY.. look this and tell if you have now more peace of mind,,, ;)
If you like small interesting reading to expand ur mind more google: "I met god the other day" .. but this is just small start ;)
This was GREAT - intelligent movie with a lot of things you haven't seen before in movies before :)
Then again.. i was not over exited with the twists and not SO surprised by the end but i still really liked it.
What troubled me is the thought that is people lives really so..simple that this movie will make them have these reactions?
Not sore if its LSD use or a lot of traveling over the world or wisting different reality's but... this this is just a movie, "real" life can be & IS more...
That was FANTASTIC movie. Thanks for posting it! The plot was really simple. Allegra and Ted were realists in real life, and they killed the designer in the end. They had come to test the game and get close to the designer. It was all the (blue handheld) game from the very beginning.
lol im sitting here eating dinner watching this on laptop and just had the craziest expression on my face everyone stared at me... i just got mind fucked lol.
We've all asked ourselves what life truly is. The answer is so simple. If you don't get it after watching this movie I've lost all hope. Thanks for the upload :)
@AlchemicGnosis To regard Nietzsche as Fascist is to expose... oh come on , your not gona write a book man , talk simple- now replay: if you learn any scians then you need to know that almost every smart person in history is an inside man that made you believ something that will make you one sick mother fucking pisimist who will live like a slave in sociaty, you know wha'm talking about , nietz , facism , comunism ,catholics 's all the same,should not protect any side
yeah its like M. Knight Shyamalan trying to be all obscure to the point where its totally self defeating in its sheer predictability. like in comedy, half of movie magic is in the delivery. fuckers like Chronenberg and Terry Gilliam time and time again fail to recognize that. When that element is preserved, you get flicks like Total Recall and the Shining. This was like a bad HBO original movie or worse, a USA network feature film.
not realy dificult , just an open ending , if wanna get wizer then go watch experimental lain or texhnolize , beh just the matrix and you'll get a close ending , or just read nitzshe or what ever his name is , fuck him by the way , he was fashist and had some good old pisimistic fantasys :p that is not good
Grade A Bullshit
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I've watced this movie like 6 times and I am saying the same the same thing I say everytime after I've watched it...``FUCKTHISMOVIE!!! I am never watching this shit again!``
lol...Total MINDFUCK DX
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I've watced this movie like 6 times and I am saying the same the same thing I say everytime after I've watched it...``FUCKTHISMOVIE!!! I am never watching this shit again!``
lol...Total MINDFUCK DX
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I don't know. I watched this as i was 15 and really liked it . This time i must say this isn't really that good .Maybe it has a message - but really a simple one and its not really something new . Most of the time the movie is boring as hell and Jennifer Jason Leigh is horrible in this role . I am disappointed .
DranzieBooy 3 months ago
The last scene might be a total cheese-ball, but nonetheless effective as fuck. This movie HAD to end with this last line.
Porly62 4 months ago 6
That movie mindfucked me and I loved it! That is so much better than inception. So much more shocking and gives you much more to think about.
1melisanda 4 months ago 3
what the fuck did i just watch
yugoterror 4 months ago
MINDFUCK, literally
pinguitar 4 months ago
Great! You keep wondering.......
zangeresIngrid200 4 months ago
I love how everyone has what look like iPads. That's very...true to reality...
Wait a second...
Oh...shit.
hotelmario510 4 months ago
Wait. What?
jendole 4 months ago
Are they still in the game?
I couldn't tell
57ump 5 months ago
brilliant.
PardonMyFrenchMadame 6 months ago
thanks for uploading!
TheCarmacon 6 months ago
A MASTERPIECE IF THERE EVER WAS ONE
otisberlin 6 months ago
That said, DAMN every time i watch this. TOTAL MIND FUCK. A bit disturbing. But, some say that you MUST allow some disturbance and indeed even force some upon yourself to truly see yourself. The trouble is picking the one that won;'t drive you irrevocably insane. Then again, like the man said, INSANITY is a SANE RESPONSE to an INSANE world... makes you think, regardless.
AuglereDeRosenkinde 7 months ago
@AuglereDeRosenkinde hahaha you literally think in clichés
BlunderCats 1 month ago
looking at bacteria and other tiny forms of life, one could argue that stimulation is life's (and indeed, non-life's) great motivator. At the most basic (thus far) of levels, we react and act based on the presence or lack of stimulation, and subsequently our systems automatically act based on the need for whichever stimulation that part of us which is reacting or will react or act does respond to. Even a rock can move eventually if washed by the waters of a stream fora long enough time.
AuglereDeRosenkinde 7 months ago
@AuglereDeRosenkinde but response, regardless of presence or absence of any stimulation, is not always what occurs... this i find interesting, and we can apply all sorts of ideas if we take this in context and apply it according to any sort of object or organism. Or idea, even. Apply Jung's principal of the subtle body, but, add in Ayn Rand's Objectivism. What do you get? I am not very able to verbalize any such result, being perhaps an undiagnosed Aspie, but, perhaps someone elseITS interesting
AuglereDeRosenkinde 7 months ago
@AuglereDeRosenkinde take a pinch of liberal arts degree, stir in a mediocre intelligence, top off with a ton of self-importance = the shit you love to talk
BlunderCats 1 month ago
freakin awesomely intense!!! and i love how the name of the movie plays on sex and in the game the ppl basically "jack in" LOL was hilarious lol
ericwiesel89 7 months ago
My personal theory is that they are all playing a game where the objective is to kill a specific individual (The "game maker/artist/designer").
The structure of the game reminds me of Epic Mafia fused with a fucked up Role Playing structrure;
AKImeru 7 months ago
Wow, How did Christopher Nolan NOT see this movie before making Inception.
Jammed9000 8 months ago
One of the best. Dream, Game, Life. Trinity of our souls'expression.
hardoise667 8 months ago
ive seen to much mindfuck movies i got the plot right away.
if our great grandkids play a game like this they will be like cancer...
Trinitysx 8 months ago
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"aww fuck! this shit is just straight up crazy! Death to 'this,' death to that..y'all just straight up killin' shit now, it's just awful."
..."are you recording me?"
-My Girlfriend
hadeysCT 8 months ago
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hadeysCT 8 months ago
Thanks for posting this wonderful movie!!!
(((o(*ﾟ▽ﾟ*)o)))
Giraux 8 months ago
Still doesn't beat Primer.
sovaLbeats 8 months ago
@sovaLbeats
I didn't like Primer. Everyone seems to love it. It felt too student-film cheap to me.
Jammed9000 8 months ago
@Jammed9000 and this hocum didnt?
BlunderCats 1 month ago
i saw this when it first came out. and i still love it.
SouliaBoy 8 months ago
lol when games get this realistic is the day, people will start slowly to become insane and confuse the game world with reality and start shooting people in the real world cuz they'll basicly wanna spend their lifes there cuz it's so funny :P eh fuck that ^^
TheEXpothead 8 months ago in playlist Geeks! - TV and Movies
@TheEXpothead it already happened man...we are in a game...
caseyface3 8 months ago
That was an awesome movie......... If only games were that real. Can you imagine what training our solders would get if they could get the feel of killing someone in a game without the actual killing of someone gives new meaning to the word desensitization.
zombiegirl123 8 months ago
Perhaps the games are that realistic muajajajajajajajajjajajaja
BelleReviews 8 months ago
I LOVE EVEN MORE EVERY TIME! DEATH TO THE DEMON CRONENBERG!
heyapathy 8 months ago
WOO HOO! I LOVE IT! great flick Cronenberg rulez
heyapathy 9 months ago
What is reality?! Yeah, same question asked by Inception, albeit less aggressively.
Apparently Inception was pitched to warner bros in 2001, just a couple of years after this. Matrix came out the same year and also explores simulated reality. Very postmodern subject matter...
wunglow 9 months ago
great movie, asian guy was awesome, I would like to try the special
whoppervirgin8 9 months ago
....Really? This was too much.
TkMis 9 months ago
I had never heard of this film, just found it today, bit mental, probably would have loved this when it came out and I was younger.
MonSwon 10 months ago
Loved it!
Biomechanical2319 10 months ago
Exactly, which one of us is rambling, your trying to say that things that occur in nature are not natural, which doesn't make any sense.
TheBlitz1 11 months ago
Man this was wayyyy more trippy than Inception. Inception sucks balls now.
spaz9i2 11 months ago
Well, that was a dissapointment. Anyways, people commenting here about how real life might be unreal, should go to a psichiatrist, you know - the tech support guy;)
Ugabuga9 11 months ago
HOLY FUCK
UnitedTen 1 year ago
No. Not the waiter again?! ^_^
schildno5 1 year ago
Reality ... What we can already do. Atoms - in short just pockets of energy. How can anything be really solid. They are finding out that all our cells, also from animals, plants are all digitally organized :), then its BrainGate - interesting they can connect brain to a computer - only works with compatible software:) makes me wonder what is real? Few movies on the topic: Matrix, Inception,my favorite at the moment is THIRTEENTH FLOOR (1999) ... what do you mean i am not real :D
behumble4God 1 year ago
HolY ShIt! MinDfUcK....tvtropes was right...
aquaphoenixx14 1 year ago
eXistenZ and Inception.....FUCKING AWSOME!!!
pvtjoker777 1 year ago
Death to the deamon David Cronenberg!!! ;)
krokeman 1 year ago
I get the goal now. It's really just a game of survival. Whoever's character is left alive last is the one who wins.
906087 1 year ago
the movie started in the game trippy stuff i liked the movie a lot
Blueblaha2010 1 year ago
Yo dawg...
leebass7 1 year ago
The Matrix, eat your heart out!
906087 1 year ago
The Matrix, Johnny Mnemonic, and eXistenZ are all based on the novel "Neuromancer" by William Gibson and "Simulacres et Simulation" by Jean Baudrillard; all attempt to interrogate technology's incorporation with existentialism (among other contrived philosophical dillemmas), and the importance of human individuality and freedom. But its all nonesense, this anti-technophilosophy only exists because technological evolution is a part of nature and people like to think they are not a part of nature.
TheBlitz1 1 year ago
@TheBlitz1 An easy argument against your weighted statement is that technological evolution is allowing for a single species to become so great in number and threat that the entire rest of the planet could potentially be wiped out by its existence. In nature, when this happens with any other species, it is considered unnatural or an anomaly.
Daveyohwhat 11 months ago
@Daveyohwhat No dude, if it's happening its happening in nature, and therefore its supposed to happen.
TheBlitz1 11 months ago
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Daveyohwhat 11 months ago
@Daveyohwhat lol how could something that is happening in nature, not be natural. That doesn't make any sense. Thats like saying cancer isn't natural.
TheBlitz1 11 months ago
@TheBlitz1 Some hypothesize cancer & other diseases to be nature's way of culling the anomalous overgrowth of our species. Texts on ecology would tend to disagree with what you're saying. Are you speaking from your own personal opinion or have you received an education on the subject? Our leap forward in evolution (human intelligence) is argued to have been a genetic anomaly, a mistake. Your argument seems to be that anything that does happen happens because it's supposed to. That's not science.
Daveyohwhat 11 months ago
@Daveyohwhat My argument doesn't have anything to do with things happening, it has to do with things existing. Something cannot exist outside of nature. Humans like to think they, society, and technology are not a part of natural evolution but they are.
TheBlitz1 11 months ago
@TheBlitz1 You're lumping conscious human thought and choice together with inorganic (radioactive), inanimate (rocks), and otherwise incidentally existing objects. Human intelligence may be incidental, but the imaginative choices which have us reaching beyond our grasp could easily be described as a genetic defect which has caused mental disfunction (or hyperfunction) and run rampant throughout the majority of our lineage. Why are you speaking in absolutes? Are you omniscient?
Daveyohwhat 11 months ago
@Daveyohwhat It doesn't matter what your talking about, everything that exists - exists in nature, nothing is not natural, maybe a meteor, comet or asteroid could be classified as extra-natural, but since it exists inside of space its natural. The only way something could not be natural is if it entered this dimension from another dimension; even that being paranormal I would still classify as being a part of nature.
TheBlitz1 11 months ago
@TheBlitz1 You're still talking in absolutes... It's not much of a conversation if one of us is communicating from behind a wall. Take care.
Daveyohwhat 11 months ago
@Daveyohwhat You dont even know what your talking about, your just rambling.
TheBlitz1 11 months ago
@TheBlitz1 Firstly: you're clearly baiting for an argument; that says a lot about your character. Secondly: logically, which one of us is more likely to be rambling... the one who has made dispassionate theoretical suggestions, or the one who continues to make grammatical & spelling mistakes and is now resorting to a personal attack? Comment back, if you'd like, but I feel like I'm wasting my time. In my opinion, you've made yourself out to be a rigid cynic.
Daveyohwhat 11 months ago
@Daveyohwhat Also you can't explain yourself, because you don't know what your talking about, so you automatically start talking about the person you talking to.
TheBlitz1 11 months ago
@Daveyohwhat hahah think youre misusing colons (was tempted to say youre talking through them but that would be too cheesey) and you just mean punctuation and who gives a fuck?
BlunderCats 1 month ago
@Daveyohwhat hahaha you been watching star wars?
BlunderCats 1 month ago
@Daveyohwhat I personally don't agree with either you or TheBlitz1 but he does there is more species that are starting to use tools as part of their natural evolution. There has even been records of an octopus using coconut shells as sheilds. It doesn't seem that the use of tools is outside of natual evolution at all.
cjcrashoveride 9 months ago
@TheBlitz1 maybe you should check the dictionary. natural just means existing or present by nature; inherent in the very constitution of a person or thing; innate; not acquired or assumed. you confusing natural with fatalism?
BlunderCats 1 month ago
@Daveyohwhat is this a clumsy paraphrasing of malthus?
BlunderCats 1 month ago
@TheBlitz1 What you've written does not make sense.
Daveyohwhat 11 months ago
@Daveyohwhat Yes it does. Your saying that something on earth can't be natural, that doesn't make any sense, how can something which occurs in nature not be natural.
TheBlitz1 11 months ago
agree with karkelkhan watch the whole film complete mindfuck now I want that game system
juggenaut420 1 year ago
I like it!! Interresting story and complexity!
missgirl007 1 year ago
I liked this a lot but I can't say I was ever unclear what level of game we were at, until right at the end of course. :)
LegionAvalon 1 year ago
they've got iPads!!
Local89 1 year ago
it's like a good version of inception.
Peaceandlove787 1 year ago
fucked movie
John7Shepard 1 year ago
its a game within a game while they were playing the game
tryingdieing 1 year ago
This is like Inception b4 Inception
After seeing Inception, I had an urge to give eXistenZ another go since I wasn't into it when I first saw it
I enjoyed eXistenZ more after I saw Inception ...and also after the 11 yrs of maturing I had since I first saw eXistenZ in the theater_1999
By the way, 11 yrs is also about the same amount of time it took Nolan 2 fine tune his Inception
I love Inception.
eXistenZ is awesome 2
Same suspenseful endings _Was it still a dream? _Was it still a game?
mr69bones 1 year ago 3
@mr69bones Kind of makes one ask whether one has been inspired by another, right? This concept is even older than eXistenZ, it has been used in the TV series named Gliders. And I think it might be even older.
What I like most about these movies is the fact that I can rely to them. When I write tales or novels, I use a technique similar to what the architect does in the movie Inception - I create world in my mind,create characters, then I let the story flow.The results sometimes surprise me.
DevelX666 1 year ago
I used to get my game pods from the Trout Farm until this exact same thing happened to me.
FluffyFeralMarmot 1 year ago
Sometimes gaming attitude can happen in real life. So we sould be more careful.
richman201 1 year ago
BWAAAAAARRRRMM BWAAAARRRMM!
Marsion444 1 year ago 2
crazzzzy, every part was another mystery, keeps ya guessing right up till the end.
i still dont know if they are in the game still or not. heh.
mrmaxell222 1 year ago
I can't wait until games are this realistic.
InvertedKira 1 year ago 13
@InvertedKira they already are.we are part of a game.
robertlagogi 10 months ago
@InvertedKira They are. You're in it now.
newguy33X 9 months ago
@InvertedKira haven't u learned anything? fucking imbecile
GuildyDawg 8 months ago
@GuildyDawg What exactly was I supposed to learn? That Philistines such as yourself despise the thought that one day humanity will rely escapism in the form of alternate realities to avoid the day to day doldrums of a reality that may have no higher meaning? Or that technology is rapidly advancing and the resulting entertainment will be rather awesome regardless of the sentiments of great directors or YouTube users alike? I'm guessing to you I was supposed to learn the first. I'll stick with #2.
InvertedKira 8 months ago
Far better than the Matrix which I feel was ALMOST a good film but marred by unnecessary comic book action. In this film you never know what is going to happen next. One of Cronenburgs best.
sitemountain 1 year ago
@sitemountain yeah certainly wouldnt want any action or interesting dialogue to ruin a perfectly good snore fest
BlunderCats 1 month ago
What a great last line.
ThisGuysRetarded 1 year ago 3
dude.. whatever
/confused
mishielai 1 year ago
Also, I think the game is still going on at the end. The Ted and Allegra characters exhibit the same robot-ish movement and abrupt, stilted speech patterns in the final scene that they did during the game-within-a-game. But maybe they are just that way in real life (it's believable that poorly-adjusted ideologues willing to kill for their beliefs would act that way). Of course, it is a fictional story so anyone's guess of what was "really" happening is just as valid as anyone else's.
chromethink 1 year ago
@chromethink also a great excuse for bad acting and generally cheesey film
BlunderCats 1 month ago
Comparing this film to the Matrix is silly. The Matrix was an extremely well-choreographed action flick with beautiful visuals but cheesy philosophical underpinnings (as we saw in the sequels). eXistenZ was a well-done exploration of serious, interesting philosophical issues with ugly visuals and cheesy action...but the ugliness and cheesiness are appropriate given that the game is supposed to be a primitive VR game, with some of the plot/dialogue drawbacks that 1980s text adventure games had.
chromethink 1 year ago
@chromethink but whats great about it? bloody fan boys will just lap it up and call other people stupid if they contradict them
BlunderCats 1 month ago
@chromethink Sequels? I'm sure they only made one movie.
durilup 4 weeks ago
@durilup they should make it into a game XD
kikikyami 1 week ago
This totally paved the way for "Inception"
LameScreename 1 year ago 32
@LameScreename Damn Straight
nokensmok 1 year ago
@LameScreename Exactly.
TkMis 9 months ago
@LameScreename 3:53 sounds like the inception horn but higher pitch
spammerdude1 5 months ago
@LameScreename yeah people were now ready for an interesting film about virtual reality
BlunderCats 1 month ago
My Head Hurts :'(
Nodonnell11 1 year ago
my question is; are WE in a game? are we playing a game? are we actors or just characters? who are we to the outer reality? is this just a game? what happens when we die? how long have we been playing?
what if the answer to all this is:
there is no game. this is a dream, so what happens when we sleep? do we "wake up"? or do we go into a deeper dream? i rekon that the dream in this "reality" is us waking up and that sense of unreality ted felt earlier is what we feel in a dream
neonblast 1 year ago
@neonblast yeah descartes pretty much asked and answered all of this
BlunderCats 1 month ago
this movie seriously points out the ineffectuality of the progress of V.R gaming- one day humanity will create a game which is better than reality and when that happens- no-one will want to live outside of the game, it is a VERY serious problem- which is why for the V.R game i want to make there will be a limited usage per day ;)
neonblast 1 year ago
@neonblast A much more interesting question is, would what you propose actually be a problem? We all strive for a happy existence, but if that was provided to us for free, would that be a good or bad thing? Is being a stressed, resource consuming, and frustrated being better then being a happy, relaxed and minimally resource consuming one, just because one is "real" and one is not? Just because our genes made us effective carriers of themselves doesn't mean that an existence as such is "better".
Trubadidudei 1 year ago
@Trubadidudei Why would VR players be less resource consuming than people living their real lives? The computing power required to keep one "fooled" would be enormous and require a lot of resources in itself, plus we would still need the same food, water and shelter that we need now.
chromethink 1 year ago
@chromethink
The VAST majority of human consumption is not on food, water and basic shelter.
The vast majority of consumption revolves around comfort. Cars, big houses, more then needed food (that you can excercise off, consuming extra energy). Much of this come from completely non renewable sources.
Now, living in a VR would reduce the amount of needed food and water (less moving), and reduce the amount of needed comfort to almost 0. All of this is replaced by electricity, which is renewable.
Trubadidudei 1 year ago
@Trubadidudei I disagree. Not moving much leads to atrophy in the muscles, which is a downward spiral of less and less activity leading to even weaker muscles. You see this in elderly patients who finally end up bed ridden. For this to happen in younger people would be tragic. We can't just replace a million years of being built for hunting and foraging with a VR world.
MrStillmans 1 year ago
@MrStillmans
That's a problem, and problems can be solved. Not moving is related to a whole range of problems, amongst that malformed bone tissue as well as muscle atrophy are some. My question is not really rooted in the practical issues though, and more with the philosophical ones
Besides, in the scenario which i was imagining, there would be no moving at all. The young people would newer experience being feeble even if their bodies would be.
Trubadidudei 1 year ago
@Trubadidudei no its not you silly goose, you use up energy. its the sources of electricity that were worried about
BlunderCats 1 month ago
@Trubadidudei but if everything would just fall into our hands for nothing why would we even bother doing anything anymore, ambition would be lost and fantasy and dreams meaningsless; sure we get frustrated a lot in life but if that would never happen would we still feel joy and gratitude for good things happening to us or would we simply start seeing it as a normality? and if that happens where would we end up getting happiness from once we reached that point?
Sarkral 1 year ago
This movie is about tetris.
hhhhhhyy 1 year ago
idk how this could be compared to the matrix. this movie is like a 4 out of 10 matrix is 10 out of 10
mapledelux 1 year ago
@mapledelux yeah but a pretty high four, i mean, the possibilities behind it are endlessly flawed, which is why i would make a similar game, but in my game you can only play for 20 mins each day.
in these 20 mins, it will seem like hours becasue of the dreamstate.
neonblast 1 year ago
Created by the Government of Canada?
WTF???
guidomith 1 year ago
@guidomith I think that meant that the Canadian Television Fund was created by the Government of Canada.
SkunkyBeaumont 1 year ago
it was alot better in the theratre trippin then on u-tube sober
TheRalphus666 1 year ago
if you got mindfuck by this then you need to get an imagination, it was pure cheese and lameness.
Valentin0o 1 year ago
@Valentin0o agreed
mapledelux 1 year ago
@Valentin0o The acting was supposed to be weird and cheesy because it was supposed to be like a video game.
SkunkyBeaumont 1 year ago
@SkunkyBeaumont how convenient
BlunderCats 1 month ago
@Valentin0o
still better then Inception
Eckendenker 1 year ago 4
Mindfuck???? no it was just a stupit fantasy...i did watch it allone and i was high...my mind is still clear
Steffelicious85 1 year ago
i really liked it. it's easy to follow and enjoyable enough
rcmontecalvo 1 year ago
thanks for uploading- definately one of Cronenbergs great movies
234suckit 1 year ago
Hey, thanks for the upload.
saqib09 1 year ago
jennifer jason leigh looked hot in this movie, I would like to probe her "bioport"
djg3996 1 year ago
But the great thing is we are going this way.... or are we there already?
I HIGHLY recommend everyone who looked this movie also look the documentary "what we still dont know - are we real" ..starts slow but you will see soon where it go.. google video id: 7044753105944203252 end of this..
no REALLY.. look this and tell if you have now more peace of mind,,, ;)
If you like small interesting reading to expand ur mind more google: "I met god the other day" .. but this is just small start ;)
WaffaMargus 1 year ago
This was GREAT - intelligent movie with a lot of things you haven't seen before in movies before :)
Then again.. i was not over exited with the twists and not SO surprised by the end but i still really liked it.
What troubled me is the thought that is people lives really so..simple that this movie will make them have these reactions?
Not sore if its LSD use or a lot of traveling over the world or wisting different reality's but... this this is just a movie, "real" life can be & IS more...
WaffaMargus 1 year ago
I still want to know are they in a game at the end or not.
1gemini 1 year ago
mindfucked me
DeathHugZ 1 year ago
That was fucking awesome!
matthewhauber 1 year ago
Man when this ended i screamed
WHAT THE FUCK?!
gaaraporra 1 year ago
That was FANTASTIC movie. Thanks for posting it! The plot was really simple. Allegra and Ted were realists in real life, and they killed the designer in the end. They had come to test the game and get close to the designer. It was all the (blue handheld) game from the very beginning.
paracyntrix 1 year ago 3
lol im sitting here eating dinner watching this on laptop and just had the craziest expression on my face everyone stared at me... i just got mind fucked lol.
th3cyb3rt3am 1 year ago
just as good as videodrome.. great film
CultureCunt 1 year ago
omg, now I'm confused as hell....
jennyloves13 1 year ago
horrible acting!! Im sorry but THE MATRIX is way better!!
Zooter123 1 year ago
We've all asked ourselves what life truly is. The answer is so simple. If you don't get it after watching this movie I've lost all hope. Thanks for the upload :)
Dreamer617 1 year ago
@Dreamer617
Cronenberg- always a heavy trip, man. Ten times more interesting than The Matrix.
thormn8 1 year ago
this is a most fuckin awesome mindfuckin film ty checkThrice for uploading it =]
72307230 1 year ago
all of the gameplayers must be pretty fucking confused
metal4massacre 1 year ago 3
"I was very disturbed by the game we just played"
no shit
hazardous1990 1 year ago
Shroomy... great movie, thanks.
GuillermoTemblalanza 1 year ago
@GuillermoTemblalanza
Cronenberg on shrooms? Bad Idea :)
thormn8 1 year ago
@AlchemicGnosis To regard Nietzsche as Fascist is to expose... oh come on , your not gona write a book man , talk simple- now replay: if you learn any scians then you need to know that almost every smart person in history is an inside man that made you believ something that will make you one sick mother fucking pisimist who will live like a slave in sociaty, you know wha'm talking about , nietz , facism , comunism ,catholics 's all the same,should not protect any side
xMADvDOGx 1 year ago
MINDFUCK
BeastlyRange 1 year ago 3
just finished watching this on film 4 and i am so fucking confused! lol great film! and did i see the haslehoff :P
sirwinsalot 1 year ago
thanks so much for posting...
alsitr 1 year ago
"Tell me the truth... Are we still in the game?" Simple, but geniuous. Thats my opinion. Such a perfect line to put right at the end.
olpeso 1 year ago 17
@olpeso
Cronenberg has a knack for perfect endings that cut straight to the theme and leave you with a tingling spine.
thormn8 1 year ago
Reminds me of philip k. dick's maze of death...same theme except it's weirder....0o
ramik81 1 year ago
that was a lame ending, so expected.
EvilLeparacaun 1 year ago
@EvilLeparacaun
@EvilLeparacaun
yeah its like M. Knight Shyamalan trying to be all obscure to the point where its totally self defeating in its sheer predictability. like in comedy, half of movie magic is in the delivery. fuckers like Chronenberg and Terry Gilliam time and time again fail to recognize that. When that element is preserved, you get flicks like Total Recall and the Shining. This was like a bad HBO original movie or worse, a USA network feature film.
nuggbubbler 1 year ago
@EvilLeparacaun
It's like somebody fucking up a campfire ghost story. Worse story telling than Stephen King. Epic fail. 100% rotten.
nuggbubbler 1 year ago
um well i didnt hate it i just thought the ending was crap.
EvilLeparacaun 1 year ago
cheers for that
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giNgkoC 1 year ago
not realy dificult , just an open ending , if wanna get wizer then go watch experimental lain or texhnolize , beh just the matrix and you'll get a close ending , or just read nitzshe or what ever his name is , fuck him by the way , he was fashist and had some good old pisimistic fantasys :p that is not good
xMADvDOGx 1 year ago
thanks for the warning in the beginning
it's pretty fucked up watching it sober
RayneMarina 1 year ago
Seen this film years ago. Seen it again now. And yes, it is absolutely brilliant!!! So let's play on! :-)
yoyojon999 1 year ago
great movie , kronenborg is incredible,paranoia 2.0 is also good (similar theme)
tell me the truth .are we still in the game?
kenfusionkenfusion 1 year ago
awesome and mind bending..oneof the most fun and inventive story lines I have seen in a while!!
THANX FOR HOSTING IT!! I have wanted to see it for a long time...worth the wait!!
deams66 1 year ago
i WAS SO cONFUSED THROUGH THIS MOVIE........ SO MANY TWISTS AND TURNS........
ajaykeer23939 1 year ago
indeed a mindfuck, but exellent:D
Crestnutt 1 year ago
so creepy it makes my skin crawl.
unique and brilliant movie.
b0lly 1 year ago
i,m really confused !!!!!!!! i think now my life is just a game !!
boodhari2000 1 year ago
This movie was one hell of a mindfuck, it was awesome. I can see how being stoned or shit and watching this will make you completely crazy.
karkelkhan 1 year ago 21
they made it too realistic tbh, lol >.>
bananasquads 1 year ago
@karkelkhan
I saw Dead Ringers on very strong pot when it came it out and I was really fucked up for days afterward. A serious case of the whillies.
thormn8 1 year ago