The high regards society holds for journalists HAHAHAHAHAHAHA are you kidding we hold no regard for them and NBC couldn't care less.Nice to see a progressive lib on the receiving end of the Bullshit media in this country.
Everyone has an opinion about Ralph Nader, and everyone will probably want to read his new book before New Years Day. In it, he imagines a world where the 6 super-rich come together with 6 organizers to solve major world problems.
We just bought Nader's book on Saturday. To the extent that Nader is proposing that this should be the job of the super-rich, we think that it will also take the super-
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By voting for Nader, we have a way to lend material air to the people of Afghanistan fighting against the US.
Defeat the US, as we did in Vietnam. Even if we accidently McCain in the process, we are better off voting for Nader.
By voting for Obama, we brainwash ourselves. By voting for BO we give US imperialism a 2 year honeymoon.
Most of the peace movement has gone asleep listening to BO. After BO is elected they will retire, like they did after Vietnam. Bring the kids home by xmas.
Well said. It will improve relations with civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran and Palestine, Israel, and NATO nations that are against all these wars they're either dragged into, fought on their soil, or are upcomming by having a representaive voice of the milions of Americans that stand for peace in the Presidential debates that have so far been excluded.
shame this didnt work , kucinich is amaizing , we must back him all the way , these are the days my friends , take this opurtunity of a window while it exists , we must act now , not tommorow , this window is open nw , and we must seize this moment , it is imperitive that we act now , peace
wow, how things change. i want to be a toaist wiseman, and not make decisions for years after contemplating. i'm not a religious man, but what does that historical text say? judge not, lest ye be judged. i think i'd have to classify you as a reactionary, davis. how do you marry this with zen?
How the heck is being against the criminal defense industrial complex/neocons/big oil mean you are anti-American??? I mean George W bush the neocons; General electic; big oil and the defense industrial complex have done more long term massive and comprehensive damage just the last few years to the usa than all the USA's enemies combined could possibly even dream of.
We will see what your saying when you being Mobbed down by the Chaos that is about to Set in inside this country... due to the economic collapse that is about to happen!
"BANGKOK, Thailand AP February 6, 2008- Asian markets plunged Wednesday after a steep drop on Wall Street overnight fanned investors' fears the U.S. economy was sliding into a recession that would sap demand for Asian exports....
'It's unbridled pessimism,' said Francis Lun...in Hong Kong. 'Everyone is concentrating on a U.S. recession, but Europe is also looking bad....We are in for a bear market now.'"
"NEW YORK -(AP February 5, 2008) Wall Street plunged Tuesday, driving the Dow Jones industrials down 370 points after investors saw an unexpected contraction in the service sector as evidence the economy is sinking into recession. It was the Dow's biggest percentage drop in almost a year."
"UBURN HILLS, Mich (AP Feb 2, 2008) - Chrysler LLC scrambled to maintain its inventory of plastic parts after a supplier filed for bankruptcy protection.
Plastech Engineered Products Inc. apparently failed to negotiate a bailout package with its customers, The Wall Street Journal reported Friday."
"Ich treffe einen Marsbewohner und er fragt mich, 'Wieviel Zehen haben die Menschen?'. Ich sage: 'Zehn. Ich will's dir zeigen' und ziehe meine Schuhe aus...."
"C'est donc ainsi que l'inquisition commença en Europe: elle ne méritait pas un autre berceau. Vous sentez assez que c'est le dernier degré d'une barbarie brutale et absurde de maintenir, par des délateurs et des bourreaux, la religion d'un Dieu que des bourreaux firent périr."
"Where is my faith? Even deep down there is nothing but emptiness and darkness."
[Mother Teresa]
"One thousand difficulties do not equal a single doubt."
A temporary moment of weakness does not discredit a lifetime of service. Your treatment of this issue is fairly typical of the behavior I have observed from you so far.
lol. I think I just responded to two and a half pages worth of venemous anti-catholicism and biased history in four posts. Well, you'd better make that four as of right now.
"Well, that establishes that you are no longer worth talking to, Knobbyboy88."
Yeah, ditto. Its more than obvious that your mind is already made up on the issue and blind hatred blinds your arguments. No words of mind are going to sway your reasoning.
"Have a nice day."
That has got to be the seventh time you've said that...
Virtue isn't it's own reward. Therein lies the problem. We are virtuous for God's sake. He created the universe and therefore morality. By being virtuous, he follow God's plan for the universe and are therefore rewarded in kind. It is a fairly complicated concept and I'm sure this isn't the textbook perfect way of explaing it, but there it is. I can't wait to see how you try and garble that statement and feed it back to me! lol
"So like the Abbey interviews him--asks him if he is Catholic.
Wittgenstein says something to the effect, no--he's a Jew but doesn't believe in 'God' either."
Is there any point to this story? It makes no more sense for an atheist Jew to be a Catholic Monk than for a rabidly revolutionary anti-government anarchist to be a United States Senator.
Pietro's Mommy: Pietro, if you make your bed, I'll give you a cookie.
Pietro: No, Mommy, I'll make my bed but I don't want the coolie.
Pietro's Mommy: Pietro, you'll make your fucking bed and take this fucking cookie, and not only that make the fucking bed because of the fucking cookie, got it?
Pietro: A man who is honest because he gets some other reward for being honest is not really being honest. He is seeking the reward.
Pope: Pietro, I told you to shut the fuck up. Can this bullshit. The only reward is in heaven! The punishment is in hell! You are fucking up a wet dream! Folks pay us good money to get to heaven. Especially the Germans.
Okay--so, one doctrine was, "Virtue is its own reward". Obviously if you are selling indulgences that might be a problem. But what's the political science significance, if any?
"At any rate, one is establishing either that your teachers are very poor, you are not a quick study, or both."
As I said before, maybe if they weren't so damn busy trying to indoctrinate us with the evils (little "r") of republicanism, they'd have more time to actually teach. I am actually a rather quick study.
All right, I'll do it for you--it is the implied or overt rejection of an aristocracy based only on birth or lineage and the tendency toward the idea of human beings as tabula rasa, "blank tablets" upon which the environment writes.
At one end it is rooted in the new virtus of the Italian Rennaissance, on the other evinced in Napoleonikc meritocracy.
"it is the implied or overt rejection of an aristocracy based only on birth or lineage"
Are you referring to Atheism, Pomponazzi, or the Enlightenment? In any case, Pomponazzi was considered a semi-heretic due to his opinions on the mortality of the soul, not because of his views on the Aristocracy. What you describe matches best with the generally accepted definition of Classical Liberalism. As I said before, many ideas came out of the Enlightenment. Some were better than others.
"Nope--an aspect of Pomponazzi's doctrines have central pertinence to political 'science'."
I did ask you what you were referring to. Besides, didn't you explicitly state that it was, "important that I understand why the Church considered him so close to being an outright heretic"? There was a reason. That isn't it.
You mentioned "Atheism" earlier, which I would phrase as "anti-Clericalism", or the refusal of ecclesiastical or institutional definitions of Divinity.
Another very important one I mentioned in a roundabout way below. Take a stab?
These ideas spawned (by and large) from the Reformation notion of refusal of central religious authority. They have now lead to the totally nihilistic atheism of the modern era. Protestantism has long since degraded into a complete and total mess of contradictory, illogical, and blatantly obtuse doctrines. Secular society, on the other hand, has fallen into the nonsensical, puerile, and completely self absorbed excesses of Post Modernism.
"On Monday, the market watchdog said in a routine disclosure that a member of Societe Generale's board, Robert A. Day, sold 85.75 million euros ($126.1 million) worth of shares in the bank on Jan. 9...Day is an investment manager with U.S.-based Trust Company of the West, or TCW.
Two foundations linked to Day...sold a total of 9.59 million euros ($14.1 million) worth of shares one day later, on Jan. 10. Regulators made no allegation of wrongdoing."
As I was saying earlier, the fundamental change of Western identity from the Christianity held in common (for the most part) in the Middle Ages gave way to the schism of the Reformation and finally the individual national identities of the Enlightenment and modern era. This ultimately paved the way for the self-interest driven politics of today and such later developments as Imperialism and Fascism.
"PARIS (AP January 29 2008) ― Societe Generale detailed Sunday how a young trader evaded all its controls to bet some $73 billion - more than the French bank's market worth - on European markets, saying he hacked computers and used other 'fraudulent methods' to cover his tracks, causing billions in losses..."
"Societe Generale said it discovered the fraud last weekend and unwound the trader's losing bets starting Monday, when world markets tumbled.
Some experts have suggested Societe Generale may have exacerbated the fall and indirectly led to the U.S. Federal Reserve's subsequent decision to cut rates...."
He wasn't a member of the SS. He was forced (along with all other young German males of the correct race at the time) to be a member of the Hitler Youth. So what?
Want some really funny stories about the Russian front?
They are not particularlyy anti-Russian at all.
A story about Dachau?
A story about an upper class German Jew whose whole fairly escaped, and who had it easy, but thinks she won the fucking war in New Jersey, and who is an uncompromising Zionist.
Personally I see no connection whatever between Hitler and WWII and having therefore to support Zionism or the state of Israel.
I am also really tired of people talking about their family and the Holocaust to call people who don't agree with what they say on Iran or Iraq or this or that Anti-Semites or Self-hating Jews.
"How about a man in one of the early waves at Normandt, later in Market Garden, and the Battle of the Bulge with Patton.
He is still alive.
A happpy fellow on the outside.
In his eighties before he told anyone his recurring nightmare, still dreamt."
Once again, so what? War is horrible. However, sometimes it is necessary. WW2 was a prime example of this. I swear to God!People now-a-days are the biggest wishy-washy wimps I've ever heard of.
One of the best ways to phrase that item I ever encountered was someone who substituted, "Away from God", as a mnemonic. Strongly anti-clerical as well.
You don't have to go out and read Pomponazzi--all you need to have is a rough idea of his doctrines and why the Roman Catholic Church considers him close to an outright heretic.
lol. What could I possibly say that you wouldn't throw a complete egotistical hissy fit over and bark some amusing little tid bit about how stupid I am?
FYI, the, "doggy one," is actually just common sense. i.e. Something you lack.
They were a genre of political writing meant to instruct in the proper behavior for kings or other rulers. Machiavelli's, "the Prince," was one of them.
Instead of spouting obscure factoids and little known philosophers, why don't you try saying something of relevance?
"It presumes that your sponsor would tll you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth--right?"
Why in the hell wouldn't he? He's no one in particular... just an attitude ridden 20 something enlisted soldier who I got dumped on by my unorganized reserve unit.
Well, he DID actually spend over 30 months in Iraq on combat duty. He was involved in the actual invasion. I might mention that you can claim neither of these experiences.
So your sponsor is, in your judgement, an open and honest human being, and tells the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and also tells it to you.
Military life sucks. That is the end all and be all of its implications. It just...well, sucks. You work 14 hour days on 3 hours of sleep. You take shit from assholes just because they've got an extra chevron on their sleeve. You have to live with crude, gruff, and nasty guys for months on end, and on top of all of that; there is the distinct possiblity that you might be KILLED.
If there's one thing Military people love doing (the actual ones, not the recruiters), its scaring the shit out of the new guy with horror stories and, "Why the Hell would you ever come here," stares, not sugar coating reality. Misery loves company.
The fact that its not based on reality? Marxism is nothing more than the unfortunate end product of a whole lot of Enlightenment secularism and humanist romanticism. Man is not noble, kind, or naturally compliant by any measure.
A lot of things came out of the Enlightenment. Some were good. Some were bad. Extreme ideologies such as Fascism (Nationalism taken to its logical conclusion) and Marxism definitely belong in the latter category
In a word, Atheism. Although the trend began with the Reformation and even before, the Enlightenment forever destroyed the notion of a united Christian Europe, or, "Christendom." Instead of one people, united against the outside world and morally governed by the Church, individual and fiercely independent Nation States became the order of the day.
"There was a movement away from a concept of 'Divinity' defined by various Christian ecclesiastical and institutional authorities, to be sure."
Its a slippery slope. What began as Deism is now the meaningless and drab post modernist atheism of today. To be perfectly frank, modern society has no soul. The europeans learning the consequences of this spiritual weakness as we speak. The Muslims emigrating to their shores carry no such dilema.
I particularly dislike buzzwords like "postmodern".
And I don't have the time right now for a brief summary from Aurelius Augustinus to Al Ghazali, with an approrpirate analogy in regard to their positions on pistis and logos.
"I particularly dislike buzzwords like "postmodern".
And I don't have the time right now for a brief summary from Aurelius Augustinus to Al Ghazali, with an approrpirate analogy in regard to their positions on pistis and logos."
The simple fact of the matter is that modern society is largely nihilistic, meaningless, and drab. No one gives a damn about much of anything any more. The europeans are quite literally being culturally subverted on their own continent.
" So of course by being Roman Catholic he can tell us all the political significance of Pietro Pomponazzi."
A semi-heretical medieval philospher? What of him?
"Yeah right. One bullshit artist being given a degree by other bullshit artists."
lol. You be surprized to hear it, but the only, "bullshit artists," down here sound and think a lot like you. Bashing American Universities is bashing your own beliefs.
These five, in spite of each being inherently wrong in both reasoning and philosophy, should be read if only to ensure the student's understanding of modern political systems.
"Stalin, Mao, Castro, Guevara--all these and more also required reading too."
However, I don't see where you get off claiming 3 mass murderers and a Red Terrorist as, "required reading."
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lol. Machiavelli? Of course I know about him. Maybe if my professors didn't have their heads so far up their own asses trying to indoctrinate us with quacks like Marx and Immanuel Wallerstein, they'd actually have time to teach us about the likes of Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates. Just a thou
The high regards society holds for journalists HAHAHAHAHAHAHA are you kidding we hold no regard for them and NBC couldn't care less.Nice to see a progressive lib on the receiving end of the Bullshit media in this country.
OMGpeopleplease 1 year ago
Ralph Naders only the Super-Rich can save us!
Everyone has an opinion about Ralph Nader, and everyone will probably want to read his new book before New Years Day. In it, he imagines a world where the 6 super-rich come together with 6 organizers to solve major world problems.
We just bought Nader's book on Saturday. To the extent that Nader is proposing that this should be the job of the super-rich, we think that it will also take the super-
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Charumatig 2 years ago
By voting for Nader, we have a way to lend material air to the people of Afghanistan fighting against the US.
Defeat the US, as we did in Vietnam. Even if we accidently McCain in the process, we are better off voting for Nader.
By voting for Obama, we brainwash ourselves. By voting for BO we give US imperialism a 2 year honeymoon.
Most of the peace movement has gone asleep listening to BO. After BO is elected they will retire, like they did after Vietnam. Bring the kids home by xmas.
paul8kangas 3 years ago
Well said. It will improve relations with civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran and Palestine, Israel, and NATO nations that are against all these wars they're either dragged into, fought on their soil, or are upcomming by having a representaive voice of the milions of Americans that stand for peace in the Presidential debates that have so far been excluded.
0613162k 3 years ago
a very prophetic statement
but they are not sleeping
sound the alarms!
this issue is not settled, YET!
eligarf 2 years ago
shame this didnt work , kucinich is amaizing , we must back him all the way , these are the days my friends , take this opurtunity of a window while it exists , we must act now , not tommorow , this window is open nw , and we must seize this moment , it is imperitive that we act now , peace
rainbowsurfer7 3 years ago
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p849 3 years ago
oh im sorry i thought you were someone else
p849 3 years ago
wow, how things change. i want to be a toaist wiseman, and not make decisions for years after contemplating. i'm not a religious man, but what does that historical text say? judge not, lest ye be judged. i think i'd have to classify you as a reactionary, davis. how do you marry this with zen?
bombednation 3 years ago
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todnyc 3 years ago
your addy is a bearded homo. I bet you are a little BITCH...............
havnfunhere 3 years ago
your addy is a bearded homo. I bet you are a little BITCH...............
havnfunhere 3 years ago
your addy is a bearded homo. I bet you are a little BITCH...............
havnfunhere 3 years ago
does his beard make your horny or something?
webovisionca 3 years ago
It comes as a surprise to no one that Kucinuch did not recieve the nomination.
Knobbyboy88 3 years ago
Thank you so much for all you have done, and all you are doing.
Thank you.
Wolfiemouse 3 years ago 2
How the heck is being against the criminal defense industrial complex/neocons/big oil mean you are anti-American??? I mean George W bush the neocons; General electic; big oil and the defense industrial complex have done more long term massive and comprehensive damage just the last few years to the usa than all the USA's enemies combined could possibly even dream of.
JamesStortfield 3 years ago 5
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Kucinuch SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!! total clown
todnyc 4 years ago
We will see what your saying when you being Mobbed down by the Chaos that is about to Set in inside this country... due to the economic collapse that is about to happen!
Budvb 3 years ago
Has nothing to do with the War in Iraq or the price of oil or the collapse of the dollar--just your little old usual market cycles.
Come on, everyone, take a deep breath (for ten or twenty years and count sheep....
mopsius 4 years ago
Dont worry, be happy.
mopsius 4 years ago
Another Installment Of Anti-American Propaganda:
"BANGKOK, Thailand AP February 6, 2008- Asian markets plunged Wednesday after a steep drop on Wall Street overnight fanned investors' fears the U.S. economy was sliding into a recession that would sap demand for Asian exports....
'It's unbridled pessimism,' said Francis Lun...in Hong Kong. 'Everyone is concentrating on a U.S. recession, but Europe is also looking bad....We are in for a bear market now.'"
mopsius 4 years ago
Latest installment of anti-American propaganda:
"NEW YORK -(AP February 5, 2008) Wall Street plunged Tuesday, driving the Dow Jones industrials down 370 points after investors saw an unexpected contraction in the service sector as evidence the economy is sinking into recession. It was the Dow's biggest percentage drop in almost a year."
Bon appetit, mes enfants.
mopsius 4 years ago
Anyone got any good predictions for the score of the Superbowl?
mopsius 4 years ago
"Virtue isn't its own reward."
[Knobbyboy88]
I corrected the extra apostrophe, which is a typo.
mopsius 4 years ago
"UBURN HILLS, Mich (AP Feb 2, 2008) - Chrysler LLC scrambled to maintain its inventory of plastic parts after a supplier filed for bankruptcy protection.
Plastech Engineered Products Inc. apparently failed to negotiate a bailout package with its customers, The Wall Street Journal reported Friday."
Gee, I wonder why?
mopsius 4 years ago
Incidentally auto finance is close to zero interest, and in some cases negative, and American auto makers still can't sell their new cars.
mopsius 4 years ago
"Ich treffe einen Marsbewohner und er fragt mich, 'Wieviel Zehen haben die Menschen?'. Ich sage: 'Zehn. Ich will's dir zeigen' und ziehe meine Schuhe aus...."
[W]
mopsius 4 years ago
"C'est donc ainsi que l'inquisition commença en Europe: elle ne méritait pas un autre berceau. Vous sentez assez que c'est le dernier degré d'une barbarie brutale et absurde de maintenir, par des délateurs et des bourreaux, la religion d'un Dieu que des bourreaux firent périr."
[V]
mopsius 4 years ago
"Where is my faith? Even deep down there is nothing but emptiness and darkness."
[Mother Teresa]
mopsius 4 years ago
"Where is my faith? Even deep down there is nothing but emptiness and darkness."
[Mother Teresa]
"One thousand difficulties do not equal a single doubt."
A temporary moment of weakness does not discredit a lifetime of service. Your treatment of this issue is fairly typical of the behavior I have observed from you so far.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
"Am Grunde des begruendeten Glaubens liegt der unbegruendete Glaube."
[W]
mopsius 4 years ago
lol. I think I just responded to two and a half pages worth of venemous anti-catholicism and biased history in four posts. Well, you'd better make that four as of right now.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Well, that establishes that you are no longer worth talking to, Knobbyboy88.
Have a nice day.
mopsius 4 years ago
"Well, that establishes that you are no longer worth talking to, Knobbyboy88."
Yeah, ditto. Its more than obvious that your mind is already made up on the issue and blind hatred blinds your arguments. No words of mind are going to sway your reasoning.
"Have a nice day."
That has got to be the seventh time you've said that...
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
"'Virtue is its own reward' as potential heresy."
Virtue isn't it's own reward. Therein lies the problem. We are virtuous for God's sake. He created the universe and therefore morality. By being virtuous, he follow God's plan for the universe and are therefore rewarded in kind. It is a fairly complicated concept and I'm sure this isn't the textbook perfect way of explaing it, but there it is. I can't wait to see how you try and garble that statement and feed it back to me! lol
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
"So like the Abbey interviews him--asks him if he is Catholic.
Wittgenstein says something to the effect, no--he's a Jew but doesn't believe in 'God' either."
Is there any point to this story? It makes no more sense for an atheist Jew to be a Catholic Monk than for a rabidly revolutionary anti-government anarchist to be a United States Senator.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
"Poor Pietro--according to the Roman Catholic Church, a very good little boy but for all the wrong reasons, hoho, haha, hehe."
Once again, because he was preaching very-nearly flawed canon, not because of any conspiracy concerning indulgences or the aristocracy.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Augustinian Canon, nice little library, a lot of land, beaucoup de gartens to kindergartenen und was fuer einer Weinkeller!
mopsius 4 years ago
The monsater was: Klosterneuburg.
I don't know what the head monkey's official title was.
mopsius 4 years ago
corr: monastery.
mopsius 4 years ago
Poor Pietro--according to the Roman Catholic Church, a very good little boy but for all the wrong reasons, hoho, haha, hehe.
mopsius 4 years ago
New British ORB study of Iraqis killed since the invasion--1,000,000:
wiredispatch(dot)com/news/?id=26001
mopsius 4 years ago
Actually, if he had not given up his personal fortune, he could have bought the fucking monastery.
mopsius 4 years ago
Hey, Knobbyboy88, did you know that at one time Ludwig Wittgenstein tried to join a Catholic monastery and become a monk?
mopsius 4 years ago
So like the Abbey interviews him--asks him if he is Catholic.
Wittgenstein says something to the effect, no--he's a Jew but doesn't believe in 'God' either.
mopsius 4 years ago
So the Abbey askes why he wants to become a monk.
Wittgenstein says--I like the looks of the regime.
Abbey tells him--well, I don't think you'd really be happy here.
At any rate Wittgenstein works as the monsatery's assistant gardener. Happy as a clam.
mopsius 4 years ago
corr: Abbot
mopsius 4 years ago
Pietro's Mommy: Pietro, if you make your bed, I'll give you a cookie.
Pietro: No, Mommy, I'll make my bed but I don't want the coolie.
Pietro's Mommy: Pietro, you'll make your fucking bed and take this fucking cookie, and not only that make the fucking bed because of the fucking cookie, got it?
Pietro: Did I say something wrong , Mommy?
mopsius 4 years ago
Okay, knobbyboy88--what's the political science angle?
mopsius 4 years ago
Pietro: A man who is honest because he gets some other reward for being honest is not really being honest. He is seeking the reward.
Pope: Pietro, I told you to shut the fuck up. Can this bullshit. The only reward is in heaven! The punishment is in hell! You are fucking up a wet dream! Folks pay us good money to get to heaven. Especially the Germans.
mopsius 4 years ago
Pietro: A good man does not do good because he motivated by some other reward. Doing good is its own reward.
Pope: Fucking heretic! I am half inclined to burn your fucking balls off for that! Can that Aristotelian shit! The reward is in Heaven!
mopsius 4 years ago
Roman Catholic laity are so fucking propagandized.
The organization has its own rules never let out to the peons.
"Virtue is its own reward" as potential heresy.
Most run of the mill Cahtolics can't even figure out why the Church thought that was dangerous.
mopsius 4 years ago
Knobbyboy88 actually thinks he is being educated at a major university, and in political science, hehe.
mopsius 4 years ago
Okay--so, one doctrine was, "Virtue is its own reward". Obviously if you are selling indulgences that might be a problem. But what's the political science significance, if any?
mopsius 4 years ago
we need to get debates OFF of for-profit tv. get it on c-span and sites like this. it should be law.
chronicremorse 4 years ago
I agree with you. Youtube is making money off this shit.
Too bad Knobbyboy88 is off to Iraq.
I might make some real money watching him learn something while we discuss political science on CNN.
Him too. (By the way that's not ungrammatical--it's an English survival of a French reflexive form).
mopsius 4 years ago
Praemium essentiale virtutis est ipsamet virtus quae hominem felicem facit (De Immortalite Animi)
What do you make of that, Knobbyboy88?
mopsius 4 years ago
Not much. I'm not a philosopher. Besides, what could I possibly decipher from a single phrase taken out of context?
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Well, it comes down to--"Virtue is its own reward."
The Roman Catholic Church was gearing up to burn him for saying that alone.
No Latin, eh?
Geez.
mopsius 4 years ago
Here's an opportunity to think for yourself rather than mouthing ideology, for or against.
mopsius 4 years ago
At any rate, one is establishing either that your teachers are very poor, you are not a quick study, or both.
Pomponazzi?
It is unlikely any of your teachers have seen the connection. That is because of the incomeptence of most political "scientists" nowadays.
mopsius 4 years ago
"At any rate, one is establishing either that your teachers are very poor, you are not a quick study, or both."
As I said before, maybe if they weren't so damn busy trying to indoctrinate us with the evils (little "r") of republicanism, they'd have more time to actually teach. I am actually a rather quick study.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Thus the idea that all men are created equal seen later in the Declaration of Independence and elsewhere.
Have you read much about the Italian Renaissance?
There is a signal example of one of the roots of this idea in the new view of art and artists.
This idea is expanded to politics in the Enlightenment.
Your turn--care to discuss this or note another characteristic?
mopsius 4 years ago
All right, I'll do it for you--it is the implied or overt rejection of an aristocracy based only on birth or lineage and the tendency toward the idea of human beings as tabula rasa, "blank tablets" upon which the environment writes.
At one end it is rooted in the new virtus of the Italian Rennaissance, on the other evinced in Napoleonikc meritocracy.
mopsius 4 years ago
"it is the implied or overt rejection of an aristocracy based only on birth or lineage"
Are you referring to Atheism, Pomponazzi, or the Enlightenment? In any case, Pomponazzi was considered a semi-heretic due to his opinions on the mortality of the soul, not because of his views on the Aristocracy. What you describe matches best with the generally accepted definition of Classical Liberalism. As I said before, many ideas came out of the Enlightenment. Some were better than others.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Nope--an aspect of Pomponazzi's doctrines have central pertinence to political "science".
mopsius 4 years ago
"Nope--an aspect of Pomponazzi's doctrines have central pertinence to political 'science'."
I did ask you what you were referring to. Besides, didn't you explicitly state that it was, "important that I understand why the Church considered him so close to being an outright heretic"? There was a reason. That isn't it.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
You mentioned "Atheism" earlier, which I would phrase as "anti-Clericalism", or the refusal of ecclesiastical or institutional definitions of Divinity.
Another very important one I mentioned in a roundabout way below. Take a stab?
mopsius 4 years ago
"You mentioned "Atheism" earlier."
These ideas spawned (by and large) from the Reformation notion of refusal of central religious authority. They have now lead to the totally nihilistic atheism of the modern era. Protestantism has long since degraded into a complete and total mess of contradictory, illogical, and blatantly obtuse doctrines. Secular society, on the other hand, has fallen into the nonsensical, puerile, and completely self absorbed excesses of Post Modernism.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
"On Monday, the market watchdog said in a routine disclosure that a member of Societe Generale's board, Robert A. Day, sold 85.75 million euros ($126.1 million) worth of shares in the bank on Jan. 9...Day is an investment manager with U.S.-based Trust Company of the West, or TCW.
Two foundations linked to Day...sold a total of 9.59 million euros ($14.1 million) worth of shares one day later, on Jan. 10. Regulators made no allegation of wrongdoing."
mopsius 4 years ago
Still bullshitting, Knobbyboy88?
Other characteristics of the Enlightnement, if you wish to continue.
Also the applicability of Pomponazzi to political science?
mopsius 4 years ago
As I was saying earlier, the fundamental change of Western identity from the Christianity held in common (for the most part) in the Middle Ages gave way to the schism of the Reformation and finally the individual national identities of the Enlightenment and modern era. This ultimately paved the way for the self-interest driven politics of today and such later developments as Imperialism and Fascism.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Correction: "As I was saying earlier, the fundamental Christian identity held in common in the West during the middle ages gave way to the..."
You can throw any obscure philosophers you want at me. It won't change the fact that this is basically what happened.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
"He was until the first Gulf War.
But Saddam Hussein was way ahead of the curve.
He rote a book early about oil and Gulf politics. He was right.
His miscalculation was thinking US foreign policy was being run in US interests and was rational"
Letting a rogue dictator conquer huge swaths of the oil rich middle east and then use his new found economic power against us is rational? Please.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
What are you going to do now, not vote Democratic?
Nominay 4 years ago
Quella langue!
mopsius 4 years ago
Okay, hey--back to serious business:
"PARIS (AP January 29 2008) ― Societe Generale detailed Sunday how a young trader evaded all its controls to bet some $73 billion - more than the French bank's market worth - on European markets, saying he hacked computers and used other 'fraudulent methods' to cover his tracks, causing billions in losses..."
mopsius 4 years ago
"Societe Generale said it discovered the fraud last weekend and unwound the trader's losing bets starting Monday, when world markets tumbled.
Some experts have suggested Societe Generale may have exacerbated the fall and indirectly led to the U.S. Federal Reserve's subsequent decision to cut rates...."
[ibid]
mopsius 4 years ago
Hehe.
mopsius 4 years ago
And an ex-SS man as fucking Bishop of Rome!
Who the fuck could have made all this up forty years ago?
Philip K. Dick?
mopsius 4 years ago
"And an ex-SS man as fucking Bishop of Rome!"
He wasn't a member of the SS. He was forced (along with all other young German males of the correct race at the time) to be a member of the Hitler Youth. So what?
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Hey, anyone got any good New Orleans jokes?
mopsius 4 years ago
Neo-cons are the scum of the earth. Born Again Zionists are even worse.
mopsius 4 years ago
Ain't war great? Come on, fuckheads, let's go out and start a few more of them purely gratuitously and for the pure fun and empire of it all, haha.
mopsius 4 years ago
Hey, Roman Catholic-don't miss Fellini's ecclesiastical fashion show in "Roma".
Gore Vidal is in it too.
Speaks pretty good dago. But with an identifiable American accent.
mopsius 4 years ago
Immaculate conception, hehe.
You know what strikes me as really funny about that?
Not the parthenogenetic aspect.
The fact that any dirty-minded post-Pauline fuckhead would call it "Immaculate."
mopsius 4 years ago
Funny stories.
Imagine the funny stories that the people of Gaza will be able to tell in fifty years?
mopsius 4 years ago
A million Iraqis dead at least directly as a consequence of the US invasion and Occupation and that's not a fucking "Holocaust"?
mopsius 4 years ago
Want some really funny stories about the Russian front?
They are not particularlyy anti-Russian at all.
A story about Dachau?
A story about an upper class German Jew whose whole fairly escaped, and who had it easy, but thinks she won the fucking war in New Jersey, and who is an uncompromising Zionist.
Nah.
Some other time.
mopsius 4 years ago
These are the relatively easy cases.
Personally I see no connection whatever between Hitler and WWII and having therefore to support Zionism or the state of Israel.
I am also really tired of people talking about their family and the Holocaust to call people who don't agree with what they say on Iran or Iraq or this or that Anti-Semites or Self-hating Jews.
mopsius 4 years ago
How about a man in one of the early waves at Normandt, later in Market Garden, and the Battle of the Bulge with Patton.
He is still alive.
A happpy fellow on the outside.
In his eighties before he told anyone his recurring nightmare, still dreamt.
On the beach at Normandy again and again and again.
He says the rest was easy.
mopsius 4 years ago
"How about a man in one of the early waves at Normandt, later in Market Garden, and the Battle of the Bulge with Patton.
He is still alive.
A happpy fellow on the outside.
In his eighties before he told anyone his recurring nightmare, still dreamt."
Once again, so what? War is horrible. However, sometimes it is necessary. WW2 was a prime example of this. I swear to God!People now-a-days are the biggest wishy-washy wimps I've ever heard of.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
With Hussein hanged, it is going to be difficult for the US to find anyone to surrender to.
mopsius 4 years ago
"A Taste of the Good Life — it's just a shopping trip away."
mopsius 4 years ago
"The camel crossed the dessert sands,
With all them mighty caravans.
His bed was full of sandy lumps—
'That's how the camel got those humps.
That's what Uncle Remus said.
That's what Uncle Remus said.
Bed was full of sandy lumps—
That's how the camel got those humps.
More, more, tell us more!'"
[Lange Heath Daniel]
mopsius 4 years ago
A bientot.
mopsius 4 years ago
Other characteristics of the French Enlightenment, so-called.
mopsius 4 years ago
One of the best ways to phrase that item I ever encountered was someone who substituted, "Away from God", as a mnemonic. Strongly anti-clerical as well.
Any other characteristics?
mopsius 4 years ago
You don't have to go out and read Pomponazzi--all you need to have is a rough idea of his doctrines and why the Roman Catholic Church considers him close to an outright heretic.
mopsius 4 years ago
Napalm was invented by a team of Harvard chemists lead by Louis Fieser, BTW.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Yep. And he wore a beret and drove a little red sports car.
Dapper little guy.
and the other Fieser or Fieser and Fieser?
mopsius 4 years ago
"Yep. And he wore a beret and drove a little red sports car."
I never denied that now did I?
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Didn't expect you to.
mopsius 4 years ago
"So tell me, Knobbyhole, what is the possible pertinence of Pietro Pomponazzi to 'political science'."
Well, he was something of a proto-humanist I suppose.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Finally, someone trying to think on his own.
Good start.
Did he espouse any doctrine that has significance in political science?
mopsius 4 years ago
Snot-nosed little fucking moron.
mopsius 4 years ago
"Snot-nosed little fucking moron."
Tsk, tsk...now that's real mature.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Say something intelligent, Knobbyboy88. Come on now.
Think hard.
Don't hurt yourself.
mopsius 4 years ago
"Say something intelligent, Knobbyboy88. Come on now."
"When you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you"- Friedrich Nietzche
"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy' until you can find a rock."
E= MC2
"God does not play dice with the Universe."- Albert Einstein
I can keep going with these...
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
That's nice.
Any of them yours?
Understand any of them beyond mere quotation?
The doggy one is stupid, by the way.
mopsius 4 years ago
That's nice.
"Any of them yours?
Understand any of them beyond mere quotation?
The doggy one is stupid, by the way."
lol. What could I possibly say that you wouldn't throw a complete egotistical hissy fit over and bark some amusing little tid bit about how stupid I am?
FYI, the, "doggy one," is actually just common sense. i.e. Something you lack.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Well, you finally said something intelligent, after how many hours on this thread?
So it is possible that your are merely stubbornly ignorant rather than inalterably stupid.
I picked Pomponazzi because nothing has been written on him in that context, so far as I know.
So you are on your own.
Continue.
mopsius 4 years ago
"I picked Pomponazzi because nothing has been written on him in that context, so far as I know."
Ooookkkaayyy...So...on whose academic authority am I supposed to assume that he had anything at all to do with political philosophy? Your's? Please.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
If you continue to be such a wiseass I won't bother.
I'll ask you another question that may lead you to the answer if you wish.
But not without thinking I warn you.
Don't want you to hurt yourself too much on one day.
mopsius 4 years ago
Hey, Knobbyboye88, what do you know about the Venetian Ricordi?
Or the Arabic "Mirrors for Princes".
In fact, Knobbyboy88, what do you know save your witless and reflexive ideology?
mopsius 4 years ago
"the Venetian Ricordi"
lol. I give up.
"Or the Arabic 'Mirrors for Princes'."
They were a genre of political writing meant to instruct in the proper behavior for kings or other rulers. Machiavelli's, "the Prince," was one of them.
Instead of spouting obscure factoids and little known philosophers, why don't you try saying something of relevance?
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Just looked that up, did you?
Remember your Kant now.
mopsius 4 years ago
What is your opinion is the best, or among the best, books on Macchiavelli's political writings?
If you mention a piece of crap like Ledeen or Strauss the conversation is over.
mopsius 4 years ago
"What is your opinion is the best, or among the best, books on Macchiavelli's political writings?"
lol. Once again, do you have a point or are you just stroking your own ego? I actually rather like The Prince.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
You are the one with the ego.
"Ego is always the enemy".
By the way, that one is mine.
mopsius 4 years ago
"You are the one with the ego.
'Ego is always the enemy'."
Ahahahaha.
Spoken like a true egotistical ass.
"By the way, that one is mine."
No, really! I couldn't tell!
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Don't understand it, eh?
mopsius 4 years ago
How about this, Knobbyhole, a great scholar who had two Ph.D's and also tattoos from Dachau on his wrist?
Have a nice time in the military.
Your sponsor would never lie to you, oh no.
mopsius 4 years ago
"Your sponsor would never lie to you, oh no."
ROFL! Yeah, that's right Mop, anyone who disagress with your delusions is lying. Have you ever been diagnosed with Schizophrenia?
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
I don't know your sponsor. Nor do I care to. That was a response to several things you said.
But you have trouble recalling what you have said even when it is recorded and easily excavated.
mopsius 4 years ago
"I don't know your sponsor. Nor do I care to."
Of course you don't! It'd make you question your oh so precious beliefs and preconceived notions about the war. Can't have that...
"But you have trouble recalling what you have said even when it is recorded and easily excavated."
lol. Name one (legitimate) instance.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
I don't need to look back. you do. when I look back in rare instances it is merely to confirm.
You said (fere): "If he had seen some superior get his head blown off I think he would have mentioned it".
"Fere" means roughty, or the gist, not exactly.
mopsius 4 years ago
"You said (fere): 'If he had seen some superior get his head blown off I think he would have mentioned it'."
Which proves what exactly? I haven't contradicted myself or my sponsor with that statement.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
It presumes that your sponsor would tll you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth--right?
mopsius 4 years ago
"It presumes that your sponsor would tll you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth--right?"
Why in the hell wouldn't he? He's no one in particular... just an attitude ridden 20 something enlisted soldier who I got dumped on by my unorganized reserve unit.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
And even if he weren't lying or covering up?
What "truth" is he capable of telling?
mopsius 4 years ago
"And even if he weren't lying or covering up?
What "truth" is he capable of telling?"
Well, he DID actually spend over 30 months in Iraq on combat duty. He was involved in the actual invasion. I might mention that you can claim neither of these experiences.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
So your sponsor is, in your judgement, an open and honest human being, and tells the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and also tells it to you.
Never lies--or never lies to you?
mopsius 4 years ago
Military life sucks. That is the end all and be all of its implications. It just...well, sucks. You work 14 hour days on 3 hours of sleep. You take shit from assholes just because they've got an extra chevron on their sleeve. You have to live with crude, gruff, and nasty guys for months on end, and on top of all of that; there is the distinct possiblity that you might be KILLED.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
If there's one thing Military people love doing (the actual ones, not the recruiters), its scaring the shit out of the new guy with horror stories and, "Why the Hell would you ever come here," stares, not sugar coating reality. Misery loves company.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Did you know Schopenhauer slept with a loaded pistol on his nighttable?
mopsius 4 years ago
Anyone can be killed or die at any moment.
mopsius 4 years ago
What is your objection to Marxism?
mopsius 4 years ago
"What is your objection to Marxism?"
The fact that its not based on reality? Marxism is nothing more than the unfortunate end product of a whole lot of Enlightenment secularism and humanist romanticism. Man is not noble, kind, or naturally compliant by any measure.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
So you reject the French Enlightenment?
And that's why you reject Marx?
Have you read Hegel?
mopsius 4 years ago
"So you reject the French Enlightenment?
And that's why you reject Marx?"
A lot of things came out of the Enlightenment. Some were good. Some were bad. Extreme ideologies such as Fascism (Nationalism taken to its logical conclusion) and Marxism definitely belong in the latter category
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Fascism derived from the Enlightenment?
mopsius 4 years ago
What was "Nationalist" about the Enlightenment?
By the way, Mussolini began as a socialist, so there may be elements that can be derived through him, from Socialism and the Englightenment.
mopsius 4 years ago
"What was "Nationalist" about the Enlightenment?"
In a word, Atheism. Although the trend began with the Reformation and even before, the Enlightenment forever destroyed the notion of a united Christian Europe, or, "Christendom." Instead of one people, united against the outside world and morally governed by the Church, individual and fiercely independent Nation States became the order of the day.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Voltaire was an atheist? Where did you get that idea?
mopsius 4 years ago
"Voltaire was an atheist? Where did you get that idea?"
Voltaire wasn't an atheist. He merely provided them with a lot of inspiration and political license.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
You know brb? BRB.
mopsius 4 years ago
Leibniz also an atheist?
Better to read them than read about them.
At any rate,to say the Enlightenment was characterized by "atheism" is as tendentious as it is conventional.
There was a movement away from a concept of "Divinity" defined by various Christian ecclesiastical and institutional authorities, to be sure.
In fact, it is the Christian and Church definition of "atheism" that is the charge.
mopsius 4 years ago
"There was a movement away from a concept of 'Divinity' defined by various Christian ecclesiastical and institutional authorities, to be sure."
Its a slippery slope. What began as Deism is now the meaningless and drab post modernist atheism of today. To be perfectly frank, modern society has no soul. The europeans learning the consequences of this spiritual weakness as we speak. The Muslims emigrating to their shores carry no such dilema.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
The europeans are*
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Gee, Knobbyboy88, spose this sponsor cahp was born tabula rasa?
mopsius 4 years ago
corr" "chap".
mopsius 4 years ago
Dispense with the rhetoric.
I particularly dislike buzzwords like "postmodern".
And I don't have the time right now for a brief summary from Aurelius Augustinus to Al Ghazali, with an approrpirate analogy in regard to their positions on pistis and logos.
Capiche?
Back to the Englightenment.
mopsius 4 years ago
"I particularly dislike buzzwords like "postmodern".
And I don't have the time right now for a brief summary from Aurelius Augustinus to Al Ghazali, with an approrpirate analogy in regard to their positions on pistis and logos."
The simple fact of the matter is that modern society is largely nihilistic, meaningless, and drab. No one gives a damn about much of anything any more. The europeans are quite literally being culturally subverted on their own continent.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
From this point, Fascism was but a minor development.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
"By the way, Mussolini began as a socialist, so there may be elements that can be derived through him, from Socialism and the Englightenment."
Fascism is an extremely militant and nationalistic form of Right Wing Socialism.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
If you had to summarize some of the ideas associated with the French Enlightenment, what would they be?
mopsius 4 years ago
So tell me, Knobbyhole, what is the possible pertinence of Pietro Pomponazzi to "political science".
mopsius 4 years ago
Great and pertinent scholar:Gustave E. Von Grunebaum.
A real one, Knobbyboy--not the shit you study under and what you promise to be.
mopsius 4 years ago
Watson was short and wiry.
He is still short.
Who invented napalm, Knobbyboy88?
Hint--he wore a beret and drove a red sports car.
mopsius 4 years ago
"Bashing American Universities is bashing your own beliefs".
Hehe.
Thorsten Veblen.
Conant is worth shit.
As is Pussey.
As is Bok, "the Astronaut".
Keep making a fool of yourself, Knobbyboy88--it's quite an entertainment.
mopsius 4 years ago
Oooo--Knobhole is Roman Catholic. So of course by being Roman Catholic he can tell us all the political significance of Pietro Pomponazzi.
Yeah right. One bullshit artist being given a degree by other bullshit artists.
mopsius 4 years ago
" So of course by being Roman Catholic he can tell us all the political significance of Pietro Pomponazzi."
A semi-heretical medieval philospher? What of him?
"Yeah right. One bullshit artist being given a degree by other bullshit artists."
lol. You be surprized to hear it, but the only, "bullshit artists," down here sound and think a lot like you. Bashing American Universities is bashing your own beliefs.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
A semi-heretical medieval philosopher? What of him?*
You may be surprized*
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Surprise me, Knobbyhole.
mopsius 4 years ago
"Surprise me, Knobbyhole."
Of the two Political Sciene Professors I've had so far (at this school), both have been professing Marxist quacks.
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
I am not interested in your Political Science oprofessors.
Contemporary political science, left or right, is mostly bullshit.
mopsius 4 years ago
Political Science*
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
Marx, Engels, Lenin, Kropotkin, Bakunin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Guevara--all these and more also required reading too.
mopsius 4 years ago
"Marx, Engels, Lenin, Kropotkin, Bakunin,"
These five, in spite of each being inherently wrong in both reasoning and philosophy, should be read if only to ensure the student's understanding of modern political systems.
"Stalin, Mao, Castro, Guevara--all these and more also required reading too."
However, I don't see where you get off claiming 3 mass murderers and a Red Terrorist as, "required reading."
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
I mean hell! Why not just have them read Hitler's "Mein Kampf," and Osama Bin Laudin's autobiography in that case?
Knobbyboy88 4 years ago
a decade worth of racist newsletters published with his name at the top?
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KamikazeKoscki 4 years ago
Hear hear!
Signed up rgiht at the beginning.
mopsius 4 years ago
No need to bother with Guicciardini nor Machiavelli in Political "Science", hehe.
Aquinas on usury--who cares? Ricardo on rent--nah?
What a bunch of fucking idiots being turned out by the schools.
mopsius 4 years ago
lol. Machiavelli? Of course I know about him. Maybe if my professors didn't have their heads so far up their own asses trying to indoctrinate us with quacks like Marx and Immanuel Wallerstein, they'd actually have time to teach us about the likes of Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates. Just a thou