Beautiful chat w Stephan Apoptygma Berzerk - part 2

[PRITTY66]

Stephan is Amasing and a Genious i found God because of he Much /respect and i agree with Stephan but allpeople i respect regardless

Religion is choice <3

[darkdiarya]

@PRITTY66 Yeah this is amazing. Wish more were brave enough to speak up.

[liesereisinger]

I like that Stephan is open to change his mind. I respect his willingness to seek the truth however science is not the enemy, the enemy are those who wish to control the information and manipulate reality. Just as there are those who twist the Bible into nonsense there are those who twist science into nonsense. I am great-grandaughter of Norwegian missionaries and have been on spiritual quest since I was 15. I have much respect for Stephan but maybe the Bible is not the end all be all? Shine on!

[Haunted300]

I agree with him 100% on what he's saying here, now I love him more than ever <3

[TheAnachrony]

I thought Stephan has a much wider mind... He is a great musician and fine guy anyway, but this is disappointing.

[APBGrrl]

Wish I could just sit down and have a chat with Stephan... he is very interesting

[blightshade86]

i think the bible brainwashing besides that i sorta agree with him

[hairyfrankfurt]

It actually really annoys me when people connect the word "science" with the word "fact". That really bugs me.

[TasteitTV]

I can understand completely how you feel...

[miyl444]

this explains most of rocket science...;)

[lithkid]

this explains the Apollo song

[Under80]

ICKE,ICKE,ICKE

[hairyfrankfurt]

the girl doing this is incredibly naive and kind of stupid. you said you'd talk to people who say shit about you, lets talk. you're naive and there is no denying it

[TasteitTV]

ok, let's talk. What's your point exactly?

And stupid, I guess it depends what your definition of stupid is. So if you would care to explain your definition of stupid and why you consider me to be naive... who knows, I might agree with you. Wouldn't that be something?

[hairyfrankfurt]

Calling me stupid just to sound big is not getting us anywhere. what im saying about you is that your naivety is clouding your vision from what could be true, now, i dont know about you, but i consider that to be stupid. you are so naive that you can't stop and listen to other people when they say "no, it's not all roses and puppies, doll face". yes, talking one on one to sick people is helpful, but how on earth would you do that? the boundaries of logic.

[TasteitTV]

I think you misunderstand me, I did not call you stupid, i honestly asked for your definition of stupid, because it is important to know to understand what you are saying.

And in this world, it seems to be easy to concentrate on the negativity. Of course I see people driven by greed who are willing to make certain sacrifices to satisfy their own selfish needs. Yes, that exists, yes, i see that. Does that mean I want to believe that everyone is like that? No. Is there proof for that assumption?

[TasteitTV]

What amazes me is that nowadays, positivity seems to be viewed as naive, negativity seems to be viewed as the intellectual approach. This is something I have perceived, not a generalisation. I think there real truth is in the middle, there are different aspects to everything and everyone and different balances between 'good' and 'evil' in every person.

I see that a lot of people are clouded by the fact that positivity == naive, apparently a lot of people fear to be called stupid. Why?

[TasteitTV]

Aren't we all stupid (or ignorant might be a better word to use) one way or another?

i don't know if you understand what I mean, I hope you do, I can't explain it like this in text. Point is, I am not naive and I don't just assume that the world is fluffy pink puppy dog stuff. I have had my fair share of aggression, deception and assult by society and individuals but I have also had my fair share of help, understanding, friendship and love in this world.

[hairyfrankfurt]

no no, i understand what you're trying to say. We are all incredibly stupid and ignorant. Thats why we've all fallen into this crap. And nobody thinks it's bad enough that it needs fixing, also ignorant, but also naive. i just think the best way to see things is to question, to wander, to weigh out the good and the bad, to compare by which is worse etc. i understand that having people show kind actions is incredibly good, seeing the situation we're in, but that does not mean it overcomes the bad

[hairyfrankfurt]

(continued from the one below) i know there are good things and bad things going on, but the bad is so bad, that the good isn't enough. it will take alot of good to out-do if you will, the bad. one of the problems we have now is a lack of trust, not only in other human beings but in human beings in general. we label and judge, and live by a system that says "its not ok to hurt people, unless they've already hurt people" which i reckon makes no sense. we don't trust what we're told.

[hairyfrankfurt]

(last post) we cannot be nice as a general. there is so much mistrust and fear of one another and it is getting us nowhere. because of us mistrusting others, they feel the need to do bad. then we have a reason to mistrust them. then people support them and do bad. i just dont think we can fix all this and i think it's stupid to believe we can when so much says we can't

[TasteitTV]

There was once a guy that I love and respect a lot who asked me: "who are these humans and should I trust them"

I think it is a question which you have to answer for yourself. But if he asks me, what I would do, I would say yes. Yes, you can be hurt, even killed maybe (literally or figuratively) but when you know you can really trust a person, there is nothing more beautiful.

[TasteitTV]

I think there are a lot of people who see the bad and negativity in this world and I think there are 2 main reactions to this: become a part of the negativity, agree and basically do nothing. Or live what you think the the world should be like. Is that the stupid approach? depends. will it 'solve' or change anything? maybe, maybe not, but one thing is for sure, staying in the negativity won't change anything.

[hairyfrankfurt]

i'm not staying in the negativity, i'm just acknowledging that there is negativity, and i'm doing what i can to help change that negativity. i live up to Stephan and think he is a spectacular person. i know that i cannot do anything by just being negative and talking about how bad the world, but there is nothing you can do about the bad in the world if you don't admit there is bad.

[GOYPRIDE]

Guys, I can't believe there's ppl listening to his BS... Matrix the Movie?! Oh that's real science!!! Aliens?! Evolution?! Who this guy thinks he is? Doctor Phil with make-up? The only thing big about him is his ego... Please somebody tell him that one Bono Vox per century is enough in human history....

Stop insulting your audience with obvious and banal stuff gathered across the internet when he's drunk

[TasteitTV]

You can listen to someone without sharing their opinions. I don't understand why people are so afraid to listen and question? And if this is the truth for Stephan, that's cool, I respect that and what I definitely respect, is the fact that he is still openminded and willing to question.

The comparisson with Dr.Phil is quite injust, cause I agree that dr.Phil seems to be a narrowminded idiot who imposes his belief on others. Stephan isn't, he doesn't impose, he just expresses his opinion/view.

[TasteitTV]

He's not an idiot, he does an immense amout of research and like he said himself, for him, it's his religion.

[TasteitTV]

You know what I dislike most about a lot of religions or groups of people for that matter... is the fact that they aren't prepared to listen and respect someone else their opinions. They use ridicule to prevent people from seeing other points of view. I am not attacking you personally, that is not my intention at all, but I wanted to share my point of view. In my opinion, imposing should never be tolerated, expressing should.

[GOYPRIDE]

For crying out loud! Just what we needed in these "dark times", a new Messiah...showing us the "Truth" Give me a break! This guy is so full of "Internet knowledge" that he's about to take off...

[lithkid]

dude ur just too narrowminded to understand the concepts of real reality and just like stephen said theres is millions like u who cant listen nor think..so congradulations

[bobbybrewster89]

Such a great interview. I hope I can sit down with him one day and talk. Thank you so much for uploading this! Don't lose sight of the Truth!!

[stolenbaby2008]

That's so interesting what he said about aliens! I've believed in them for quite some time, but the way he put it definitely makes me think differently. Now I just believe in them even more.

Although I couldn't agree what he said about the bible (I'm the least religious person you'll ever meet), he's very open-minded and I respect that very much in a person. :]

But I also don't really like The Matrix, though. xD Although that may be because I was 7 when I saw that movie....

[mugwump1971]

Massive HUG! to everyone. Especially Stephen Groth cos he's worth a hug.

[mugwump1971]

I wouldn't put a capital H on him though, he's canny but not godlike.

[luthorattack]

Excelent interview, I agree in everything with Him

[Coombsi]

oh yeah, I'm a Darwinist LOL but I think he's right! neither science nor any religion can prove anything and as I said before: there's not one greater truth! there are many truths. Wouldn't be that much of a problem if people just respected each other's opions :)

[monomachine]

hes not dark. hes just being realistic,and knows whats up

[MissMariJuanaa]

interesting,, but i kinda feel sorry for him..although im glad that he's still open minded. anyways i'd really like to see some proof.

[fragmisch]

that is the best interview i watched since i don't know!! thanks for this!

did you get some links, book titles or anything like that, because i'm intereseted in the whole thing as well. and i really would like to inform, too..

would be great if you can help me out with hints.

[LadyAstaroth]

@fragmisch: Please check the English APB board (media section). I've posted some links there which might help people new to these theories get into them. :o)

[TasteitTV]

And i'll add what STP sent me, but i wanted to ask him first if it is ok that I put it online :-)

[GothicFeli1985]

I agree with him 100 percent. Only the thing about the bible I disagree. I have an open mind for all things in the world. But till now there was nobody who can convince me and explain the things so that I understand it. I hope anytime I will meet somebody who can explain it to me that I understand it.

The rest he said I agree and I share his opinion. A very good interview. Thank you for it.

[TasteitTV]

You are welcome, thank you for watching it. :)

[BrigitteOwnsLOL]

about the brain, we do have a lot of connections in our brain, but most of them are disabled cause of hormones, when we're still in our mother's womb( Testosterone)

when there is brain damage, we can use some of those paths, but never all of them.People with autism do us more paths in their brain, and you cannot say they function properly in this society we live in at the moment

and if more and more people would use more paths and society would change, I don't think people who have to check

[BrigitteOwnsLOL]

the door 4 times before they leave, can actually "rule" the world

I think it's cool to have someone that believes in other stuff, but it doesn't seem realistic to me

it is a really interesting interview though, something different. But I don't know...

[TasteitTV]

By using more of our brian we didn't mean use more of the physical stuff, necessarily, but more of it's power to be able to know and think more.

I didn't know that about the testosterone, I wonder why that happens?

[TasteitTV]

I loved this interview, especially because he respected my opinion and let me ask questions so that I could get to know his opinions. :)

[BrigitteOwnsLOL]

yeah I know =)

it's cool though he talks about it that freely =) even though I think he knows people will think he's this weirdo cause of it

I just think it's cool =p

[BrigitteOwnsLOL]

yeah apparently my neorology classes do pay off =p

selection of human nature?

who will tell =p

[BrigitteOwnsLOL]

I don't get how he thinks the bible makes sense... God created men, but how was god created?out of thin air?

the big bang has been scientifically proven... and it seems more real than whatever the bible says to me

Like Christianity isn't/hasn't been brainwashing people...

nothing is real

nobody knows what happened in the past

but I don't think the bible is right really...

fallen angels?

[TasteitTV]

Actually the big bang hasn't been proven and as far as I know scientists also admit that.

And I think he is right that it should be more emphasized that it is a 'theory' and not a fact.

I am still studying more about the bible before I can voice an opinion, I really don't know enough about it yet

[TasteitTV]

I know what you mean about how it seems like Christianity has been used to brainwash people but is that Christianity itself or has it been misused as a tool?

[BrigitteOwnsLOL]

I rather think it has been misused by people craving for power?

we had this conversation before right =p