Hi Uriel. No offense taken. I've worked with the interpretation I think you're describing for years and found it lacking in a few ways. Can you point me to a good video of the method you're endorsing?
Not now, but I hope I'll upload some good videos. Then I'll send it to you. But you don't need a video to do it right. Just try to don't step to the left when doing duplieren. Move your left foot to the right and it will work. It'll be much safer and faster too. But mainly, you'll find out it works better.
I've recorded some techniques with longswords today. I hope they won't be useless, because of bad light. I'm not sure when I'll be able to post the video, but I'll post it as soon as possible. You'll see some differences. I just don't know how I can describe them. You just have to see. BTW for how long are you reconstructing fechtbuchs?
I started in 2001, although I had a few tours to Iraq thrown in there during which I didn't do much more than read and do dolchfechten. I've been focusing on Meyer and early Liechtenauer stuff since 2003 and 2005, respectively.
No offence, but you are moving into wrong direction. Try it in full speed and you'll see that your blade won't hit the enemy, because it's too slow. If you step to the right with your left leg, you'll hit him always if you're close enought. My first interpretation was very similar to yours, but when you practise it with full strenght and speed, you'll see that it's just not working that way.
I worked with stepping to the right with the left foot in practice earlier this week, but otherwise left the recorded (above) interpretation untouched. Worked great. The difference was pretty subtle, but mainly I found it improved my balance.
Yes that's true. It just works better. And "bis strecker wider" or in english "stay stronger against" is very similar. Also train duplieren on your left side. It's good against versetzens
I don't agree. Going to the right breaks one of the most holy rules of historical fensing: "fence in a whay that protects yourselt from your opponents blade. To be protected, in my oppinion, you have to go left. But not like these guys cause they don't protect themself either.
The way I've been told you keep the bind low and wander minimally along your opponents blade. While stepping to the left, your second cut is more like a whippin motion than a usual cut. It works and you're protected!
There are two images of it from the left-side in Goliath. Doesn't help as much as I'd like, unfortunately.
DerAltenFechter 2 years ago
Good text for left-side duplieren you can find in the Jud Lews fechtbuch. Here is the text:
Item oder hastu Im von deiner lincken
seitten mit der langen schneiden an sein
swert gepunden so far bald auf mit den
armen und pleibe also steen am swert und
slag In hintter seinß swertz klingen mit der
kurtzen schneiden auf den kopff
UrielSemptim 2 years ago
Is Kal the only image of Duplieren that we've got?
MattABryant 2 years ago
Hi Uriel. No offense taken. I've worked with the interpretation I think you're describing for years and found it lacking in a few ways. Can you point me to a good video of the method you're endorsing?
DerAltenFechter 2 years ago
Not now, but I hope I'll upload some good videos. Then I'll send it to you. But you don't need a video to do it right. Just try to don't step to the left when doing duplieren. Move your left foot to the right and it will work. It'll be much safer and faster too. But mainly, you'll find out it works better.
UrielSemptim 2 years ago
Alright, I'll give it a shot shortly and post my findings. Thanks for the input. Hopefully it turns out as well as you suggest.
Other than the step, what are your thoughts?
DerAltenFechter 2 years ago
I've recorded some techniques with longswords today. I hope they won't be useless, because of bad light. I'm not sure when I'll be able to post the video, but I'll post it as soon as possible. You'll see some differences. I just don't know how I can describe them. You just have to see. BTW for how long are you reconstructing fechtbuchs?
UrielSemptim 2 years ago
I started in 2001, although I had a few tours to Iraq thrown in there during which I didn't do much more than read and do dolchfechten. I've been focusing on Meyer and early Liechtenauer stuff since 2003 and 2005, respectively.
DerAltenFechter 2 years ago
No offence, but you are moving into wrong direction. Try it in full speed and you'll see that your blade won't hit the enemy, because it's too slow. If you step to the right with your left leg, you'll hit him always if you're close enought. My first interpretation was very similar to yours, but when you practise it with full strenght and speed, you'll see that it's just not working that way.
UrielSemptim 2 years ago
I worked with stepping to the right with the left foot in practice earlier this week, but otherwise left the recorded (above) interpretation untouched. Worked great. The difference was pretty subtle, but mainly I found it improved my balance.
DerAltenFechter 2 years ago
Yes that's true. It just works better. And "bis strecker wider" or in english "stay stronger against" is very similar. Also train duplieren on your left side. It's good against versetzens
UrielSemptim 2 years ago
I don't agree. Going to the right breaks one of the most holy rules of historical fensing: "fence in a whay that protects yourselt from your opponents blade. To be protected, in my oppinion, you have to go left. But not like these guys cause they don't protect themself either.
The way I've been told you keep the bind low and wander minimally along your opponents blade. While stepping to the left, your second cut is more like a whippin motion than a usual cut. It works and you're protected!
Qhorim 1 year ago