Dude once again: arvanites called themselves ARVANITE not greeks! Before the renaissance there were tribes greeks and albanians! I belong to the TOSK tribe which is next to the border with greece! There were aARVANITE CHAMS LABS AND TOSK TRIBES which all spoke albanian and their settlement was epirus! Do you agree w rhis!
Haha funny one" the south albanians are more greeks than north alb" lyou are funny! Let me tell you my last name which is also the name of the village i was born and then tell me how greek i am! VASJARI! Should remind you of smth if you know your history!
Even if we came to the balkans from caucas what does it mean? That does not make the suliotes greeks becouse if we moved along w turks thats well before the greek revolution in which arvanites fought and lead the greeks into victory!
Ardian vehbiu & kapllan resuli have hypothesis based on their opinions and not facts and follow th $ ! Even if they were right what does it mean? We are here NOW !
@albania1878 Vella,une 1here e ndieva detyrimin t'iu them timen,edhe ajo ndoshta e tepert,vidjoja flet mè shume se 1 000 000 fjale! Sa per K.Resulin, e kam njohur rastesisht, personalisht, eshte dikush qe shtiret shqipetare, por, nuk eshte, ka Pas.me emer rremè! Ky (eshte me shume mundesi malazez, jo serb)lavderon veç veten dhe flet keq per ne! Eshte seriozisht injorant, dhe i pavlere! Sdq, une desha te shtoj si shok,por s'po gjej mè opsionin,nuk egziston mè, nga ndryshimet? Pshn!
They called themselves arvanite not greek or albanians! They spoke a dialect of alb as their lang and greek as a second lang! They would never have joined the greek revlt if it wasnt for the barbaric treatment of ali pasha! suliotes were highland people that lived with livestock and robbing and very little trading with greeks becouse as we know from documents of ottomans greeks were merchants!
Listen no one is denying that Arvanites spoke a Medieval Albanian dialect??No one not Greeks and not anyone else..But the Arvanites themselves are insulted by someone calling them Albanians..The Soulites are the same people as Arvanites..We both speak English right now..My first language is English,,BUT i am Greek both mother and father and i was born in Greece.Aravnites are Greeks who lived with Albanian speakers.If they werent Greek they wouldnt call themselves as Greeks.
@cobone2 i honestly think you are not a bright ! When you say that they base their theory on language alone is not foundamental you dont know what u re talking! Where does a greek differs from an albanian???? The language only is the distinction
Depends on what Albanians you are talking about..Albanians in the south are more Greek then thier Kosovo brothers..You dont knoww what you are talking about
Do you even know what these TWO Greek historians are baseing THIER theories on???The teaching of a racist Anti-Hellenic pig name Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer ...
He further argued that the Great Powers who had supported the Greek War of Independence had been led by a "classical intoxication" to misjudge the character of the new Greek state. Fallmerayer's work was deeply ideological, driven by political motives and aspirations. By fear of a Russian expansion to the Mediterranean, he wanted a strong Ottoman Empire, and made an appeal to the European forces to abandon their philhellenism and suppress the Greek War of Independence against the Turks
--------> The true ache, but, be civil, accept it! - Beter a bad true than a beautiful lie -!
Dear greek people (that most of you are albanians...so; wake up!):
The video, is made by greeks, so nothing better proof for you. If you are here watching this video; I'm just happy you are on the good way to discover your story, the True Greek Story! bye!
Have you ever read what your Albanian historians say about Albanians??These TWO Greek historians are full of shit ..How do we know??Bceuase Arvanites hundredsa of years ago called themselves Greeks and not Alabnians,,They are baseing thier theorys on language alone..The names of the
My personal opinion is that the issue of Albanians descending or not from Illyrians doesn't deserve the interest it has traditionally aroused. There is absolutely NO Illyrian cultural legacy among Albanians today. In a certain sense, Illyrians (with their less fortunate fellows,? the Pelasgians) are a pure creation of Albanian romanticism
@cobone2 It's really hard to me, but, I try to low myself at your level for telling you just one thing; Man(greek); THE TRUE ACHE, BUT BE CIVIL TO ACCEPT IT. The video, is made by greeks, so nothing better proof for you. If you are here watching this video; I'm just happy you are on the good way to discover your story, the True Greek Story! bye! p.s Ah, pardon, the name of the historian writter who told that depressed your saiyng is????
Το γνωστό σκάι. Στην αρχή όλα καλά(αναβίωση του ΑρΕλ.πνεύματος, ανυπαρξία-κι εγώ έτσι πιστεύω-του κρυφού σχολειού). Κι αρχίζει: οι παράφρονες Έλληνες που σκότωναν αμάχους(να λυπηθώ τους Τούρκους δηλ.;), οι Αλβανοί μας δίδαξαν γενναιότητα κι ήταν υπερέλληνες, το οθωμανικό-άκου ιστορική νοσταλγία τώρα!-παρελθόν(μήπως εμείς τελικά κλέψαμε τη χώρα από τους Τούρκους ή να παραδεχτούμε ότι κάποτε ήμαστε Τούρκοι;), περί φυλετικής ασυνέχειας(οι έρευνες του Πουλιανού γιατί ποτέ δεν αναφέρονται;)...
To kompleks paei synefo... mia xara einai to dokimanter einai k apo ellines istorikous... dld eprepe na doume mono karatzferistika dokimanter. Konstantinos Paparigopoulos leei... pou egrapse tin istoria tou neou llenikou e8nous, aytin tin istoria pou ma8eneis esy apo tin kouniabre pi8ike... Ti perimenes esy dld... olos o kosmos na gyrizei gyro gyro apo sena... ?
Αυτός που το έφτιαξε όλο αυτό και το παρουσίασε είναι μάλλον και οπαδός των θεωριών του fallmerayer...Όταν θα γραφτεί η ιστορία του σήμερα (2011) θα πούνε ότι οι Αλβανοί ξεκίνησαν τους Αγανακτισμένους μόνο και μόνο γιατί ήταν εκεί για πλιάτσικο....Πραγματικά λυπάμαι.Δεν αξίζει ούτε το dislike μου εδώ και δεν θα το κάνω...
@S4Echannel You right man,there can do a little bit your dislike(also if you do it!),I too make you sure that it doesn't enough to change the True, to chanche the Stoy, so don't regret.. I understand you:
------> The true ache, but, be civil, accept it! - Beter a bad true than a beautiful lie -!
The video is made by greeks, so nothing better proof for you. If you are here watching it; I'm just happy you are on the good way to discover your story, the True Greek Story! bye
Άντε ρε χαμένε που θα μιλήσεις και για τον 'Υμνο της Ελευθερίας,τράβα κάνε κανά τσιμπούκι σε κανά οθωμανό και μετά έλα να μας πείς τον δικό σου εθνικό ύμνο!!!!!
Δείτε και την κριτική που άσκησαν στη σειρά δυο επιστήμονες σε δύο πολύ ενδιαφέροντα άρθρα τους στο antibaro.gr :
1) Οι ''μύθοι'' του '21 και οι ψευδο-επιστημονικες ''τεχνικές'' της αποδόμησης ,του Ν.Δαπέργολα Διδάκτωρα Ιστορίας του Α.Π.Θ
2)1821-Η ιστορία των ανιστόρητων ,του Βασίλη Φίλια πρών Πρύτανη του Παντείου Πανεπιστημίου ... Υ.Γ Το πρώτο άρθρο είναι στη δεύτερη σελίδα της ιστοσελίδας
Omiros miluse tin glosa,pou milane akoma qe simera ellines kai albani,jati stin usia ta simerina ellinika kai albanika ine dialekta tis mia arkeas glosas=enas ethnos=mia historia=to idio ema=aderfia........
@IllyriPower greket dhe shqiptaret nuk kane asgje te perbashket sepse greqia, qe ne fakt ka 2000 vjet qe nuk ekziston eshte krijuar nga shqiptaret dhe vete shqiptaret si arvanitasit vrane vellearit e tyre shqiptare ne atdhe per te krijuar ambiciet e tyre si megali idea
If 10 well known descendants of arvanites take the DNA test you will see how "greek" was bocari & co!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
After deceiving lying and tricking since the trojan horse to today we got a few honest greeks with healthy minds that tell the truth as it is!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
Dude once again: arvanites called themselves ARVANITE not greeks! Before the renaissance there were tribes greeks and albanians! I belong to the TOSK tribe which is next to the border with greece! There were aARVANITE CHAMS LABS AND TOSK TRIBES which all spoke albanian and their settlement was epirus! Do you agree w rhis!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
Haha funny one" the south albanians are more greeks than north alb" lyou are funny! Let me tell you my last name which is also the name of the village i was born and then tell me how greek i am! VASJARI! Should remind you of smth if you know your history!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
Even if we came to the balkans from caucas what does it mean? That does not make the suliotes greeks becouse if we moved along w turks thats well before the greek revolution in which arvanites fought and lead the greeks into victory!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
Ardian vehbiu & kapllan resuli have hypothesis based on their opinions and not facts and follow th $ ! Even if they were right what does it mean? We are here NOW !
albania1878 3 weeks ago
@albania1878 Vella,une 1here e ndieva detyrimin t'iu them timen,edhe ajo ndoshta e tepert,vidjoja flet mè shume se 1 000 000 fjale! Sa per K.Resulin, e kam njohur rastesisht, personalisht, eshte dikush qe shtiret shqipetare, por, nuk eshte, ka Pas.me emer rremè! Ky (eshte me shume mundesi malazez, jo serb)lavderon veç veten dhe flet keq per ne! Eshte seriozisht injorant, dhe i pavlere! Sdq, une desha te shtoj si shok,por s'po gjej mè opsionin,nuk egziston mè, nga ndryshimet? Pshn!
sweetharmony2008 3 weeks ago
They called themselves arvanite not greek or albanians! They spoke a dialect of alb as their lang and greek as a second lang! They would never have joined the greek revlt if it wasnt for the barbaric treatment of ali pasha! suliotes were highland people that lived with livestock and robbing and very little trading with greeks becouse as we know from documents of ottomans greeks were merchants!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
@albania1878
Listen no one is denying that Arvanites spoke a Medieval Albanian dialect??No one not Greeks and not anyone else..But the Arvanites themselves are insulted by someone calling them Albanians..The Soulites are the same people as Arvanites..We both speak English right now..My first language is English,,BUT i am Greek both mother and father and i was born in Greece.Aravnites are Greeks who lived with Albanian speakers.If they werent Greek they wouldnt call themselves as Greeks.
cobone2 3 weeks ago
@cobone2 i honestly think you are not a bright ! When you say that they base their theory on language alone is not foundamental you dont know what u re talking! Where does a greek differs from an albanian???? The language only is the distinction
albania1878 3 weeks ago
@albania1878
Depends on what Albanians you are talking about..Albanians in the south are more Greek then thier Kosovo brothers..You dont knoww what you are talking about
cobone2 3 weeks ago
@albania1878
Do you even know what these TWO Greek historians are baseing THIER theories on???The teaching of a racist Anti-Hellenic pig name Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer ...
cobone2 3 weeks ago
He further argued that the Great Powers who had supported the Greek War of Independence had been led by a "classical intoxication" to misjudge the character of the new Greek state. Fallmerayer's work was deeply ideological, driven by political motives and aspirations. By fear of a Russian expansion to the Mediterranean, he wanted a strong Ottoman Empire, and made an appeal to the European forces to abandon their philhellenism and suppress the Greek War of Independence against the Turks
cobone2 3 weeks ago
--------> The true ache, but, be civil, accept it! - Beter a bad true than a beautiful lie -!
Dear greek people (that most of you are albanians...so; wake up!):
The video, is made by greeks, so nothing better proof for you. If you are here watching this video; I'm just happy you are on the good way to discover your story, the True Greek Story! bye!
sweetharmony2008 3 weeks ago
@sweetharmony2008
Have you ever read what your Albanian historians say about Albanians??These TWO Greek historians are full of shit ..How do we know??Bceuase Arvanites hundredsa of years ago called themselves Greeks and not Alabnians,,They are baseing thier theorys on language alone..The names of the
cobone2 3 weeks ago
ΦΙΛΟΞΕΝΟΥΣΕ ΜΕΓΑΛΟ ΑΡΙΘΜΟ ΤΟΥΡΚΩΝ. ΧΑΧΑΧΑ ΕΙΜΑΣΤΕ ΠΟΛΥ ΦΙΛΟΞΕΝΟΙ ΤΕΛΙΚΑ
hawkearification 3 weeks ago
ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ ΝΟΜΑΡΧΙΑ. ΤΑ ΛΕΕΙ ΟΛΑ
hawkearification 3 weeks ago
According to KAPLAN RESULI ALBANOLOGIST
Albos r THE MOST RECENT HABITATS OF BALKAN PENINSULA
HAVING A MIXED LANGUAGE CONTAINING WORDS FROM THE LANGUAGES OF PPL THEY CONTACTED AS THEY MARCHED TO THE BALKANS
Albos come from Caucasus
When Albania of Caucasus was destroyed by Romans,? they seeked for new lands in the Balkans
Moving slowly, living in temporary camps, after some centuries they reached the Balkans
Thats why Albo language has close relations to the one spoke by Udis in Caucasus
cobone2 1 month ago
Ardian Vebiu
famous Albanian historian writes:
My personal opinion is that the issue of Albanians descending or not from Illyrians doesn't deserve the interest it has traditionally aroused. There is absolutely NO Illyrian cultural legacy among Albanians today. In a certain sense, Illyrians (with their less fortunate fellows,? the Pelasgians) are a pure creation of Albanian romanticism
cobone2 1 month ago
@cobone2 It's really hard to me, but, I try to low myself at your level for telling you just one thing; Man(greek); THE TRUE ACHE, BUT BE CIVIL TO ACCEPT IT. The video, is made by greeks, so nothing better proof for you. If you are here watching this video; I'm just happy you are on the good way to discover your story, the True Greek Story! bye! p.s Ah, pardon, the name of the historian writter who told that depressed your saiyng is????
sweetharmony2008 3 weeks ago
Don't worry greeks, is simply the truth !
MellonCollieful 1 month ago
@last a small part of the truth comes out of hellahole ! You can not live a lie for eternity!
albania1878 1 month ago
oloi h ellhniki istoria enas mythos, telika ti iste alvani oi turki malon kai ta dio
redikuqezi 1 month ago
Το γνωστό σκάι. Στην αρχή όλα καλά(αναβίωση του ΑρΕλ.πνεύματος, ανυπαρξία-κι εγώ έτσι πιστεύω-του κρυφού σχολειού). Κι αρχίζει: οι παράφρονες Έλληνες που σκότωναν αμάχους(να λυπηθώ τους Τούρκους δηλ.;), οι Αλβανοί μας δίδαξαν γενναιότητα κι ήταν υπερέλληνες, το οθωμανικό-άκου ιστορική νοσταλγία τώρα!-παρελθόν(μήπως εμείς τελικά κλέψαμε τη χώρα από τους Τούρκους ή να παραδεχτούμε ότι κάποτε ήμαστε Τούρκοι;), περί φυλετικής ασυνέχειας(οι έρευνες του Πουλιανού γιατί ποτέ δεν αναφέρονται;)...
egomono1 1 month ago
ti leei o an8ropos? oi romioi apofasisan na ginoun ellines? einai sovaros?
TheGleandros 1 month ago
Of course....
kuqezi1980 2 months ago
To kompleks paei synefo... mia xara einai to dokimanter einai k apo ellines istorikous... dld eprepe na doume mono karatzferistika dokimanter. Konstantinos Paparigopoulos leei... pou egrapse tin istoria tou neou llenikou e8nous, aytin tin istoria pou ma8eneis esy apo tin kouniabre pi8ike... Ti perimenes esy dld... olos o kosmos na gyrizei gyro gyro apo sena... ?
kuqezi1980 2 months ago
Αυτός που το έφτιαξε όλο αυτό και το παρουσίασε είναι μάλλον και οπαδός των θεωριών του fallmerayer...Όταν θα γραφτεί η ιστορία του σήμερα (2011) θα πούνε ότι οι Αλβανοί ξεκίνησαν τους Αγανακτισμένους μόνο και μόνο γιατί ήταν εκεί για πλιάτσικο....Πραγματικά λυπάμαι.Δεν αξίζει ούτε το dislike μου εδώ και δεν θα το κάνω...
S4Echannel 3 months ago 22
@S4Echannel You right man,there can do a little bit your dislike(also if you do it!),I too make you sure that it doesn't enough to change the True, to chanche the Stoy, so don't regret.. I understand you:
------> The true ache, but, be civil, accept it! - Beter a bad true than a beautiful lie -!
The video is made by greeks, so nothing better proof for you. If you are here watching it; I'm just happy you are on the good way to discover your story, the True Greek Story! bye
sweetharmony2008 3 weeks ago
Αρα, ο Ελύτης και ο Σεφέρης ήταν εθνικιστές!Κάποιος να ενημερώσει τους Σουηδούς!
tzoyia1 3 months ago 3
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tilemacro 3 months ago
Εντελώς αποτυχημένη σειρά...είχε την τύχη που της άξιζε...
dimiballas 3 months ago 4
i alithia ponaei
mgkolonjari 3 months ago
Άντε ρε χαμένε που θα μιλήσεις και για τον 'Υμνο της Ελευθερίας,τράβα κάνε κανά τσιμπούκι σε κανά οθωμανό και μετά έλα να μας πείς τον δικό σου εθνικό ύμνο!!!!!
apostolikas89 7 months ago
to krifo sxoleio den upirxe gt apla den xreiazotan na upar3ei... upirxan sxoles kanonika p ma8ainan ellinika... den xreiazotan na einai krufa
stefanos7leo 8 months ago
Δείτε και την κριτική που άσκησαν στη σειρά δυο επιστήμονες σε δύο πολύ ενδιαφέροντα άρθρα τους στο antibaro.gr :
1) Οι ''μύθοι'' του '21 και οι ψευδο-επιστημονικες ''τεχνικές'' της αποδόμησης ,του Ν.Δαπέργολα Διδάκτωρα Ιστορίας του Α.Π.Θ
2)1821-Η ιστορία των ανιστόρητων ,του Βασίλη Φίλια πρών Πρύτανη του Παντείου Πανεπιστημίου ... Υ.Γ Το πρώτο άρθρο είναι στη δεύτερη σελίδα της ιστοσελίδας
giorgosktl 9 months ago
Ειναι μυθος λοιπον το κρυφο σχολειο...? Τι λετε ρε παιδια...
TheDeLawZz 9 months ago
English subtitles? Anyone?
EBvulves 10 months ago
Omiros miluse tin glosa,pou milane akoma qe simera ellines kai albani,jati stin usia ta simerina ellinika kai albanika ine dialekta tis mia arkeas glosas=enas ethnos=mia historia=to idio ema=aderfia........
sulioti100 11 months ago
@sulioti100 Καθόλου δεν φαίνεται απ΄το κανάλι σου τι ρόλο βαράς...
giorgosktl 7 months ago
ante g@misou albane! thatheles na eise!
t\p
elpidaper 4 months ago
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fuck greec.,,..............................
rimias82 11 months ago
@rimias82 why?
Arkham456 10 months ago
Albanians and Greeks will be brothers as one time !
we gave our lives for you ! we have many things in common with you !
IllyriPower 11 months ago
@IllyriPower greket dhe shqiptaret nuk kane asgje te perbashket sepse greqia, qe ne fakt ka 2000 vjet qe nuk ekziston eshte krijuar nga shqiptaret dhe vete shqiptaret si arvanitasit vrane vellearit e tyre shqiptare ne atdhe per te krijuar ambiciet e tyre si megali idea
Kastrioti1443 1 month ago