Dabluedude- You are correct sir. You can put a copious amount of money into anything and make it fast. I've just always wanted a procharged mach, lol. You are correct, I would actually expect to be beaten by that mod list.... How far are you into that mod list bud?
Yes most mach1 owners are a little big headed, but let's be real. Honestly stock they are pretty good performers, and sound good too. Plenty of room for a lot of potential. So I get where they get it, but it is annoying. I have 3:73's in my 2valve. And what weight it doesnt have I make up for being 305lbs at 6'1. I ran a Mach 1 with exhaust, gears, and stickies and he lost. I have C&L mass air + throttle body, cold air, heads, cams, exhaust, no cats, 3:73's, built 4r70w, baer brakes, etc....
@smallfry0764 People dont realize that anyone can put enought money into anything to make it fast (work too im not dissing anyone here...) I would expect you to be faster than a mach... But i would say that a mach 1, with cai, TB, OR Midpipe, freer flowing mufflers, short throw, and a good tune, would give you a good run. (just for fun thats what my mod list looks like for this winter haha)
Lol, so much wrong in these comments. The Mach 1 is a 281 4v DOHC, the 2001 GT is a 281 2v SOHC. The mach's do NOT come with forged internals, that would be the 03-04 cobras, and I don't know what this "Cobra jet induction" is coming from, but it's wrong. It's a shaker on a throttle body. Let's not make this rocket science people. Also, lol at "if you bought the man version". My 2 valve has full bolt ons+ a fully built auto, stick mach's with bolt ons are a pretty even match.
@smallfry0764 Gotta love it, I love Mach 1's but the owners get a little fat headed, A bolt on GT can keep up pretty well, especially with 3.55's or steeper gears, I keep up just fine with the factory 3.27's. I had a Mach with full exhaust(headers, O/R H-pipe, catback exhaust) intake, and tuned pull me, but not as hard as he thought it would, a snails pace lol, he was surprised lol. And 2v's weigh less by 100-200lbs.(not much but it helps)
@braddfordy just to clear this up... its not the crank from the terminator cobras... those are forged. the mach 1 does get a stronger (manual) crank but its not as good as the terminator cranks.
@DaBluedude100 sorry guy you didn't clear up much the 5spd mach1 gets the 8 bolt forged crank from the 03/04 cobra and the auto mach gets the 6 bolt non forged crank!
@srt4slow one last thing. "I don't really understand the difference between the 2... aren't they both just glorified 4.6's??" is the end of that subject. beyond this point you opened it up to a genre. how do you not understand that?
@srt4slow dont know where you are living; i can tell its not from the greatest country in the world (that American, i know you need help on these things) but it is sunday. not only am i working and bashing on you simultaneously. i am reserving a table for two (my beautiful girl and i); anyway enjoy your sat in bumfuck no where.
@srt4slow you mean the answer that i left you before repeating myself? talking about pussy making another rant; maybe you should post up dumbshit that would cause rants. also you should learn some respect. if you would have stay civilized then we wouldn't be in this predicament. on one last final note, your mother should have swallowed instead of spitting you on her nasty vagina.
@srt4slow cont, now in that statement you never said "4.6 only" so you left it open (put insulting word like dipshit here). but before you try to insult someone else, why dont you use this thing in front of you called a computer and research about the two instead of asking dumb ass question you retarded orphan! good day to you sir.
@srt4slow that funny, im the dipshit? you comment reads as follow "I don't really understand the difference between the 2... aren't they both just glorified 4.6's??" first of all one is a single over head cam with 16 valves while the other is a dual over head cam 32 valve aluminum block. then you proceed in your comment stating"And anyone who thinks an exhaust is going to give you 30 hp to the wheels is a fucking tool box.""as shit won't happen on some cheap mustang."
@srt4slow your more then welcome to check out my video. i almost gain 100 hp simply off of full exaust, cold air intake and a badass tune. so what does that make me? a badass tool box?
@srt4slow no the cobra have an iron block 8.5.1 compression ration (due to its force induction). they both are dual over head cam motors with forged cranks.
@50RNDCLP depending if you purchased the man version of the Mach (standard, stick, manual only ); the Mach 1 does have an aluminum block, however the internals aren't weaker. they come with a forged crank for the 7000 rpm dual over head cam v-eight. has a 10.1 compression ratio. so we you add all this up, you get one mean beast tearing up the streets. the auto Mach 1 are a wast of money.
I don't think that's a Mach1. All Mach1's have a black striping on the side that fades as it gets to the rear that says, "Mach 1". He was lacking that stripe, though nice try with the spoiler and shaker hood. The 4v 4.6 is a completely different beast from the 2v. No way you're going to make up 60 horses with some pullies and an X pipe. (Mach1 was under-rated at 305hp, actual dyno proved it to be 320hp at the crank over the 260hp the GT had to offer).
@veritech102 you're retarded, a properly tuned Xpipe can give well over 30 horses to the wheels, and a good set of udp's will give over 10. Granted doing the same thing to a mach1 shows much greater results, but a GT with minor bolt ons can easily keep up with a stock mach 1, as shown in this video, throw in some 3.55 gears like the mach 1 has and it's game over.
@admiraljimmy again it depends on if your racing an auto Mach (waste of money) or a manual, stick, standard (going to mop up the floor on a gt unless serious work is done). have to keep that in mind when your talking about the Mach 1. huge differences between the two
@adams17561 Yeah there is a huge difference, honestly they shouldn't have even been offered in automatics, my opinion: if you want an automatic mustang get a v6... but yes the manuals are quick, the only thing a GT has goin on for it is because it's a 2v it weighs less and bolt ons and exhaust can close the gap on a stock mach 1. But i've seen mach's run mid 12's with exhaust, intake, and slicks. Great cars.
Your GT seems to take the Mach in every vid. Does the mach have stock gears and are your running 4:10's? I'm just tryin to figure this out lol. I want my stang to be stout, I'm starting with suspension to get that power to the ground.
@ChallengerGuy22 i dont like the chrome on the mach and would have gone with darker wheels, but there is a 2007 gt with these rims at my college and in my opinion, they are not gaudy at all! all the mustangs ive seen with em are pretty nice.
@iandude454 wouldn't be surprised that they look better on newer mustangs since they had stock rims that are very close to those like the cal special shelby gt i think others... but you wouldn't find them on my Mach just not my style although it is a 5 spoke style which is is pretty much required on a muscle car but they would be likely found on a hoopty as well just for the bling factor so i can't give them my vote they detract from his otherwise nice car
@ChallengerGuy22 i do think in this case the chrome is a little much and would have gone for some black gt4 or maybe fr500. i also like five spoke wheels, especially the terminator's
Either good driving or some nice mods (maybe both) to keep that 4v in the mirrors. His wheels might be adding a lot of weight though, and if you ask me, they look lame on the car.
@TheMrhoneycutt no they dont. 03/04 Machs have the same heads and cams as the 03/04 Cobra, 99/01 Cobras have "C" Heads and different cams. Mach's also have 10:1 compression, forged crank"5 speed only", powederd rods and hyper pistons.
@z06killer03mach1 reread my post "DILDO" it says 5 speeds only have a forged crank, nowhere does it say they dont come an auto. the "5 speed only" is refering to forged crank part.
@z06killer03mach1 reread my post "DILDO" it says 5 speeds only have a forged crank, nowhere does it say they dont come in auto. the "5 speed only" is refering to forged crank part.
Everytime i see a video of a Mach racing pussystang100 always talking shit about machs when he has no idea what he's even talking about. Saying GTs are faster than machs stock abs cobras are so much faster than everything else lol ur a fucking joke. Like I said before, don't worry bout getting a mustang. Just go get a civic instead!
snakestang is an idiot Mach vs a GT not even a race the gt redlines @5600 machs 6800 for 1. 2 its a 2-3v vs a 4v and its a whole differ monster.They were slightly under rated but not making 340 lol
ok then if the mach 1s are sooo much faster than gts, please explain to me how i have beat them before on several various occasions!!!!!!!! The gt and the mach 1s are so close in power, it is nothing more than a mere drivers race.
you have no idea what your talking about! not only has ford documented the fact that mach1s are at 330hp, but there are countless dyno charts proving stock mach1s spin 330 at the crank NOT 305hp FAG. on top of that paul svinicki a pro late model driver ran 12.97@105.1 on d/r with a fucking bone stock mach1. show me a stock gt that can run that, and maybe i will that $5 whore u call a mom stand on one of the good street corners for a change
im calling b.s. on that quarter time. And insulting my mom doesnt change the fact that mach 1s even if they did have 330 hp, is still less than 100 hp from the gt, not much of a difference. Whoever is the better driver will win. You probably dont even have a mach 1 do you?
Its not just the power difference.The GT power band peaks and then goes strategy down . the mach1s power is high and steady like a ls1. meaning yes the power difference is not omg insane . but the amount of time the mach 1 keeps peak power is leaps be on how long the gt does.you still got allot 2 learn
12.97 sounds about right for a faster mach 1.I have the weakest l1 fbody fully loaded to run a best of a 13.23 on factory rubber dead stock. and good machs run the same times a faster ls1 fbodys.
actually, for a stock mach 1 that is fast. all im saying is that a gt with exhaust and cai will be a drivers race against a mach 1, their not that fast dude. the mach 1 people think they have something special like a cobra just because it has a 4v motor.
You are such a dumbass. Do some research. The Mach engine is identical to the Cobra engines minus the Terms.Alum block, forged internals, Sold rear axle, 3.55 factory gears make Machs beasts. These guys can't drive.
@flashstang04 Actually maybe its you that need to do the research. Mach 1 and 03-04 Engines are different. The Mach has a forged crank only (manual only). The WAP block used on the Mach is slightly different (casting differenced) than the Cast Block in the Cobra. It seems that we all are Stang fans and or owners, we should show respect to each other instead of hate. This part is for everyone... Stop posting made up numbers you read from forums its B.S. Get your cars on a dyno, remember tissues.
@snakestang100 Exhaust and intake it'd be a drivers race? You really honestly TRULY believe that an intake, and exhaust, shit lets just say FULL exhaust (LTs, mid pipe, catback) that those mods will give you 40-50whp? They don't make any power off of bolt ons. A CAI on a 16v gt won't gain shit and a full exhaust won't even make enough to hang with a mach 1 hahahah. Plus it's a 32v motor, with 4vs per cylinder. You're such a dipshit kid. I'm embarrassed you own a ford making us look bad.
@iCaughtNessy First of all, 40 hp isnt much at all, secondly, the mach 1 weighs about 300 lbs more than a gt!! Im pretty sure that 300 lbs less can make up for 40 hp, especially with a few minor bolt ons. Like i said before, i have driven them both, and theres really not much of a difference.
Again its not about the 40 hp difference . a gt could 50 more hp and would loose to a stock mach 1 .
at this point your thinking buuuuwhhhaaa.
Ill explain for you .The big difference is that the Mach1 power band run near peak power all they way into the 6,000 rpm rage and comes in very early .
the Gt makes it power later and looses peak power at 4,600 making a very weak power band .
ya thats true. I guess your right. Macha are faster then. I thought they cut off at 5000 rpms. GTs might not be as fast, but they are still fast cars. Im getting a 03 cobra in a few months though. Im still trying to decide whether or not to get a mach 1 or a cobra. Like, what do you think i would have to do to make the mach faster than a terminator?
I would prefer a mach 1 myself. I enjoy its looks inside and out more then a cobra. but really it would come down to witch 1 i could get a better deal on.
@snakestang100 at least then you would have something worth owning, and you still wouldnt be able to touch a mach1 with mods like mine. its the same argument as before a light bolt on mach vs a stock corba is a drivers race. and there are plenty of dragstrip vids on here to prove it
@svbummin The difference is between a standard mach and automatic is but a dozen pounds. the difference between the 03-04 mach's and 03- 04 Termis is well here s the curb weights. 03 -04 Mach1 (3317) 03-04 Cobras ( 3665).
@2889joeracer It's the IRS. It make the cobras better for the twisties but it hurts them when it comes to the straights. Regardless their still quick.
it's not 40 hp. The mach 1s were underrated they really are at about 320-330 to the crank which is around 280rwhp while the gt is about 230rwhp. That's a 50 RWHP difference, and 60-70 hp difference at the crank. Will 300lbs help you keep up with a mach 1? hell no. Do you realize how many bolt ons it takes to make a gt have 280rwhp? You need heads and cams to make 300rwhp, while the mach1 only needs a couple bolt ons. Now you are educated, so quit being a dumbass.
actually you can see it in the background of one of my vids. got it in 2003 with 34 miles on it. now its full bolton, light port&polish, with some suspension upgrades. i have yet to find a N/A GT 2 or 3 valve that can keep up, but then again i know how to drive. a full bolton GT with a cam or heads would be a drivers race but stock 4 stock u would lose. there are GT owners on here with full boltons bragging about running 13.7. when that would be a really slow run in a mach1
@svbummin well its been proven that the ls1 trans ams and camaros have about 345 hp to the wheel so i believe that the mach 1 is underrated and also the mach 1 is a huge difference from the gt 1. 4v and two its got more power and torque idk why these people understand lol but thats not saying much for svt if there supercharger only added 60 hp to the crank in the 2003-04 cobras
Internals on a 5 speed mach are better but auto is the sam cast iron crank.. 5Speed machs have a forged crank like the cobra which makes modding worth it
the mach 1 and the gt arent that different at all. The mach 1 has 305 hp and the gt has 260. thats only 45 more, not much. and the mach 1 has a heavier motor. You could easily beat one with a few aftermarket peices like throttle bodu, cai, and a exhaust.
and the bullit had a 4v motor but it only had 265 hp. Thats the same thing as the gts 2v pretty much. So that proves that 4vs arent shit either unless you do stuff to them.
NO,no, no... The Mach 1 has huge potential and is a lot quicker than a standard Gt. Different interior, gear, block, internals, its a 4v. And it is less weight, suspension, brakes, etc... A lot
not much? have you ever rode in a mach 1? my buddy just traded his full bolt on 3.73's geared GT for a stock Mach 1. that Mach 1 will leave that GT in the dust, and we know too because we raced the GT.we put 4 cars on him to 100. have the GT been stock it would have been alot worse
your on crack! the mach1 has an all aluminum motor(heads&block)way lighter. not to mention better suspension and brakes, along with subframe connectors,thicker sway & banard bars and 10.1:1 compression. they are under rated and spin 325-330hp at the crank but ford had problems with timing right from the factory, which left some machs 20-30hp less
which still doesnt change the fact that they are barely faster than a gt. i have driven one before at a dealership because i was going to buy it, but i wasnt too impressed for the price they were asking, i could have got a terminator
Actually the mach 1s only have 305 hp, not 340 underrated hp -- dumbass. And last time i checked, 40 hp wasnt that much of a difference. I have driven cobras, mach 1s and gts, and between the mach 1 and the gt, their is no difference except a feeling of little boost when you punch it due to the functional hood scoop. The mach 1s are nice, but they are still shit compared to the cobras :b
@snakestang100 Your wrong about the motor there chief. The Mach motor is lighter as the block itself weighs 84lbs compared to 175lbs. Seriously guy where do you get your information from? BTW any mod motor owner knows this one thing that I have not seen mention here is gears. Ford Motorsports recommends for the new edge mustang 3:73's. Most guys I know run 3:73 and up. The Mach 3:55's stock GT 3:27's stock. Snake please bro... Get some books, real data.
maybe there are some mods we dont know about. different tires and or suspension seemed to be the case on the line along with the fact the mach wasnt ready. they kept a constant distance which makes me think hes got some quality bolt ons and a tune
yeah 2889joeracer is right. my 04 GT would be able to easily run down a stock mach 1. few simple mods and youre looking at more power than the mach 1 with less weight to haul around. but the potential of a mach 1 is fantastic. no one should under estimate the 4.6 DOHC motor
Your saying you can make 45 HP with a few "simple" mods? Doubtful. Ive yet to find a GT with the basic mods that can even touch me. Im not saying a GT can't, im just saying it can't with a few simple mods as you put it.
its not about horsepower. some 4.10s with a tune and some 275 40 17 drag radials on the rear and you can out 1/4 mile a stock mach 1. there are many more factors than horsepower and remember the standard GT weighs about 200 pounds less than the mach 1. and even if it was about horsepower a CAI catback exhaust and mid pype and you can make up the lost horsepower. now granted i would have to say the DOHC motor in the mach 1 has much more potential and would be a good swap for a GT
are they even flooring it. Iv raced both of those cars (not them but similar cars) and there should of been an overwelming sound coming from them both.
and 15 seconds in or so they should of been doing 100+ and it dosnt look like it
are you really that dumb? do you think a lenco is even CLOSE to the same as in any production car? autos are better for going down a drag strip hints the idea that 90% of all cars built to drag race are autos.
no autos are for guys that like to go fast and go the same EACH TIME. in 100 passes i would run within a tenth each time the BEST drives in the world cant come close to that in a stick. dont get me wrong sticks have a place, it just happens to be with 16 year olds that dont really know anything about drag racing. or people that need to go to a track that the start finish line are in the same place.
I'm within a tenth when I race with my manual trans. I to believe auto trans have their place...in the hands of an old man or women driving to the doctor.
they shift faster, hints the idea why the GTO is faster auto, and the C6 is faster auto, its not had for a company that KNOWS what they are doing to make the auto as fast or faster. the ONLY advantage is the launch and with stock tires the auto will win. TCI has the super street fighter with a 32-3500 rpm stall that GAURANTEES to drop 4-6 tenths off a stock LS1's 1/4 mile time. cant get that with a tranny upgade in a stick. all you can do is make it last longer
The auto is behind the stick in a race by at least 4-6 tenths compared to a stick!!! Depending on the trans model or make. I'm sorry man but ask any pro stock NHRA racer and see what they say about the manuals.
listen to what you saying , no car in production today has that big a diff between its autos and manuals not one, the auto c6 and gto are faster than the 6 speed.
or...........standards are for those that want to drive their drag car to and from work/school from time to time without the annoyance of a 4800 stall or higher lol
i never had a problem with a 3200 rpm conerter, never seen a 4800 on the street NEVER, if your going that high it would have a line lock or trans break
I'm no dumbass HKuspDADDY. Automatic transmissions are used in drag racing MOST of the time because they are consistant. That is MOST of the time. The Lenco isn't even close to a factory manual transmission. Auto trans are easier on the drivetrain too. Manual trans take more talent and or practice to drive. I'm no dumbass....
What do the mach 1s come with under the hood ?
xHaRdStYleKiDx 4 weeks ago
@xHaRdStYleKiDx a n/a 4.6L with 305 hp and 321 foot lbs.
XJ12lover 3 days ago
Dabluedude- You are correct sir. You can put a copious amount of money into anything and make it fast. I've just always wanted a procharged mach, lol. You are correct, I would actually expect to be beaten by that mod list.... How far are you into that mod list bud?
smallfry0764 3 months ago
Oh and not saying this one is mine, this is for admiraljimmy....
smallfry0764 3 months ago
Yes most mach1 owners are a little big headed, but let's be real. Honestly stock they are pretty good performers, and sound good too. Plenty of room for a lot of potential. So I get where they get it, but it is annoying. I have 3:73's in my 2valve. And what weight it doesnt have I make up for being 305lbs at 6'1. I ran a Mach 1 with exhaust, gears, and stickies and he lost. I have C&L mass air + throttle body, cold air, heads, cams, exhaust, no cats, 3:73's, built 4r70w, baer brakes, etc....
smallfry0764 3 months ago
@smallfry0764 People dont realize that anyone can put enought money into anything to make it fast (work too im not dissing anyone here...) I would expect you to be faster than a mach... But i would say that a mach 1, with cai, TB, OR Midpipe, freer flowing mufflers, short throw, and a good tune, would give you a good run. (just for fun thats what my mod list looks like for this winter haha)
DaBluedude100 3 months ago
i was going to say a ass load of bolt ons on that gt nice 2v man..gears?
1sik3297 4 months ago
Lol, so much wrong in these comments. The Mach 1 is a 281 4v DOHC, the 2001 GT is a 281 2v SOHC. The mach's do NOT come with forged internals, that would be the 03-04 cobras, and I don't know what this "Cobra jet induction" is coming from, but it's wrong. It's a shaker on a throttle body. Let's not make this rocket science people. Also, lol at "if you bought the man version". My 2 valve has full bolt ons+ a fully built auto, stick mach's with bolt ons are a pretty even match.
smallfry0764 4 months ago
@smallfry0764 Gotta love it, I love Mach 1's but the owners get a little fat headed, A bolt on GT can keep up pretty well, especially with 3.55's or steeper gears, I keep up just fine with the factory 3.27's. I had a Mach with full exhaust(headers, O/R H-pipe, catback exhaust) intake, and tuned pull me, but not as hard as he thought it would, a snails pace lol, he was surprised lol. And 2v's weigh less by 100-200lbs.(not much but it helps)
admiraljimmy 3 months ago
@smallfry0764 5spd machs get the forged cobra crank and the autos get reg. junk that comes with the 2v
braddfordy 3 months ago
@braddfordy just to clear this up... its not the crank from the terminator cobras... those are forged. the mach 1 does get a stronger (manual) crank but its not as good as the terminator cranks.
DaBluedude100 3 months ago
@DaBluedude100 sorry guy you didn't clear up much the 5spd mach1 gets the 8 bolt forged crank from the 03/04 cobra and the auto mach gets the 6 bolt non forged crank!
braddfordy 3 months ago
@srt4slow wish i could find you on the road and its SUNDAY!!!! get it right!
adams17561 4 months ago
@srt4slow one last thing. "I don't really understand the difference between the 2... aren't they both just glorified 4.6's??" is the end of that subject. beyond this point you opened it up to a genre. how do you not understand that?
adams17561 4 months ago
@srt4slow dont know where you are living; i can tell its not from the greatest country in the world (that American, i know you need help on these things) but it is sunday. not only am i working and bashing on you simultaneously. i am reserving a table for two (my beautiful girl and i); anyway enjoy your sat in bumfuck no where.
adams17561 4 months ago
@srt4slow you mean the answer that i left you before repeating myself? talking about pussy making another rant; maybe you should post up dumbshit that would cause rants. also you should learn some respect. if you would have stay civilized then we wouldn't be in this predicament. on one last final note, your mother should have swallowed instead of spitting you on her nasty vagina.
adams17561 4 months ago
@srt4slow cont, now in that statement you never said "4.6 only" so you left it open (put insulting word like dipshit here). but before you try to insult someone else, why dont you use this thing in front of you called a computer and research about the two instead of asking dumb ass question you retarded orphan! good day to you sir.
adams17561 4 months ago
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@srt4slow that funny, im the dipshit? you comment reads as follow "I don't really understand the difference between the 2... aren't they both just glorified 4.6's??" first of all one is a single over head cam with 16 valves while the other is a dual over head cam 32 valve aluminum block. then you proceed in your comment stating"And anyone who thinks an exhaust is going to give you 30 hp to the wheels is a fucking tool box.""as shit won't happen on some cheap mustang."
adams17561 4 months ago
@srt4slow your more then welcome to check out my video. i almost gain 100 hp simply off of full exaust, cold air intake and a badass tune. so what does that make me? a badass tool box?
adams17561 4 months ago
@srt4slow no the cobra have an iron block 8.5.1 compression ration (due to its force induction). they both are dual over head cam motors with forged cranks.
adams17561 4 months ago
@srt4slow .The '03-'04 is engineered / built for boost and has a iron block. The Mach 1 has a aluminum block and weaker internals etc.
50RNDCLP 5 months ago
@50RNDCLP depending if you purchased the man version of the Mach (standard, stick, manual only ); the Mach 1 does have an aluminum block, however the internals aren't weaker. they come with a forged crank for the 7000 rpm dual over head cam v-eight. has a 10.1 compression ratio. so we you add all this up, you get one mean beast tearing up the streets. the auto Mach 1 are a wast of money.
adams17561 4 months ago
@srt4slow the gt has a 16 valve v8 and the mach 1 has a 32 valve engine with the cobra jet induction.
Super03terminator 5 months ago
@Super03terminator stop with that cobra jet crap please
adams17561 4 months ago
machs r slow
branman50314 5 months ago
@branman50314 that gt was not stock
Super03terminator 5 months ago
I don't think that's a Mach1. All Mach1's have a black striping on the side that fades as it gets to the rear that says, "Mach 1". He was lacking that stripe, though nice try with the spoiler and shaker hood. The 4v 4.6 is a completely different beast from the 2v. No way you're going to make up 60 horses with some pullies and an X pipe. (Mach1 was under-rated at 305hp, actual dyno proved it to be 320hp at the crank over the 260hp the GT had to offer).
veritech102 6 months ago
@veritech102 only mach 1s were produced in azure blue. this is a mach 1. he was just like me and got rid of his decals.
MRwieduwilt 6 months ago
@veritech102 you're retarded, a properly tuned Xpipe can give well over 30 horses to the wheels, and a good set of udp's will give over 10. Granted doing the same thing to a mach1 shows much greater results, but a GT with minor bolt ons can easily keep up with a stock mach 1, as shown in this video, throw in some 3.55 gears like the mach 1 has and it's game over.
admiraljimmy 6 months ago
@admiraljimmy again it depends on if your racing an auto Mach (waste of money) or a manual, stick, standard (going to mop up the floor on a gt unless serious work is done). have to keep that in mind when your talking about the Mach 1. huge differences between the two
adams17561 4 months ago
@adams17561 Yeah there is a huge difference, honestly they shouldn't have even been offered in automatics, my opinion: if you want an automatic mustang get a v6... but yes the manuals are quick, the only thing a GT has goin on for it is because it's a 2v it weighs less and bolt ons and exhaust can close the gap on a stock mach 1. But i've seen mach's run mid 12's with exhaust, intake, and slicks. Great cars.
admiraljimmy 4 months ago
@veritech102 depending on which Mach 1 it was. again the auto doesn't have the sticker. but that car is a Mach 1 in the video
adams17561 4 months ago
whats the gt running? and the mach 1
thecalibear408 6 months ago
nevr mind,, just saw the list in the other videos!! lol
hemiowner105 7 months ago
nice video ,just wondering what is done to the gt?? mach1 shoulda been faster stock for stock.
hemiowner105 7 months ago
@hemiowner105 not at all
branman50314 5 months ago
Your GT seems to take the Mach in every vid. Does the mach have stock gears and are your running 4:10's? I'm just tryin to figure this out lol. I want my stang to be stout, I'm starting with suspension to get that power to the ground.
Casey2315 7 months ago
yea and its faster than the mach
02gtztang 8 months ago
luv the way the guy filming says "GO' after they take off ...... my bad the dude in the Mach was sleeping
tonyt1203 11 months ago
luv the way the guy filming says "GO' after they take off ......
tonyt1203 11 months ago
good kill Sikkstang. what are tha mods on ur car?
rahu8670 1 year ago
if your going to lose at least look good and remove the rims
ChallengerGuy22 1 year ago
@ChallengerGuy22 um im pretty sure those are shelby razors. look em up dude they are pretty expensive mustang wheels.
iandude454 9 months ago
@iandude454 expensive and gaudy that must make them good lol
ChallengerGuy22 9 months ago
@ChallengerGuy22 i dont like the chrome on the mach and would have gone with darker wheels, but there is a 2007 gt with these rims at my college and in my opinion, they are not gaudy at all! all the mustangs ive seen with em are pretty nice.
iandude454 9 months ago
@iandude454 wouldn't be surprised that they look better on newer mustangs since they had stock rims that are very close to those like the cal special shelby gt i think others... but you wouldn't find them on my Mach just not my style although it is a 5 spoke style which is is pretty much required on a muscle car but they would be likely found on a hoopty as well just for the bling factor so i can't give them my vote they detract from his otherwise nice car
ChallengerGuy22 9 months ago
@ChallengerGuy22 i do think in this case the chrome is a little much and would have gone for some black gt4 or maybe fr500. i also like five spoke wheels, especially the terminator's
iandude454 9 months ago
@iandude454 couldn't agree more i have to look up which the gt4s r but i like the others
ChallengerGuy22 9 months ago
If the guy in the Mach werent trying to act cool he may have won.
Mach1BluesMan 1 year ago
Either good driving or some nice mods (maybe both) to keep that 4v in the mirrors. His wheels might be adding a lot of weight though, and if you ask me, they look lame on the car.
Bungholio281 1 year ago
what mods you have? or is he just a bad driver hahaha
EEwhit3y 1 year ago
LMAO kid in the mach 1 cant drive at all!
frostedflake753 1 year ago
is the mach 1 faster by leaps and bounds ?? i dont know if i want a 99 cobra or an 03 mach 1 ? i just love the looks of the blue mach 1
mrplatinum919 1 year ago
@mrplatinum919 The Mach would be better..Its basically the same engine but the Mach has the Shaker..Plus its a little better looking IMO
TheMrhoneycutt 1 year ago
@TheMrhoneycutt not the same engine by far. DOHC> SOHC
Texarmageddon 1 year ago
@Texarmageddon Umm..The 99/01 Cobra's have the Same Engine as the 03/04 Machs..The only difference is the Mach has a higher CR and a Shaker.
TheMrhoneycutt 1 year ago
@TheMrhoneycutt Thought u were talking about the gt
Texarmageddon 1 year ago
@TheMrhoneycutt they have different heads as well.
the 99/01's have B heads and the 03/04 machs share 03/04 cobra heads.
uberowns 1 year ago
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Thank you, somebody finally knows what the hell there talking about.
sp1epiphany 1 year ago
@TheMrhoneycutt no they dont. 03/04 Machs have the same heads and cams as the 03/04 Cobra, 99/01 Cobras have "C" Heads and different cams. Mach's also have 10:1 compression, forged crank"5 speed only", powederd rods and hyper pistons.
Chances50 1 year ago
@Chances50 no they came auto also dildo my wife has an torch red auto and i have an oxford white five speed
z06killer03mach1 11 months ago
@z06killer03mach1 reread my post "DILDO" it says 5 speeds only have a forged crank, nowhere does it say they dont come an auto. the "5 speed only" is refering to forged crank part.
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@z06killer03mach1 reread my post "DILDO" it says 5 speeds only have a forged crank, nowhere does it say they dont come in auto. the "5 speed only" is refering to forged crank part.
Chances50 11 months ago
@z06killer03mach1 hey i miss read it and maybe u should word it differently and you wouldnt be called a dildo :)
z06killer03mach1 11 months ago
c'mon miss daisy(mach1) step on it...the gt must have some mods or the mach1 driver can't drive well enuff.
gtstriker19 1 year ago
the guy in the mach 1 doesn't really know how to drive his car.. haha whats done to the GT..?
Mach1girl6 1 year ago
These comments are hilarious. Everyone seems to be an expert and a tough guy at the same time. Keep the comedy coming. Thanks
SikkStang 1 year ago 11
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i feel ya man, sometimes i get on youtube just to see the dumbass comments people leave. lol
SVTCobraR315 9 months ago
I think this video is actually being filmed from inside a minivan
timorbit 1 year ago
the guy in the gt may have won....but the other guy still drives a mach 1
03svtcobra100 1 year ago 49
@03svtcobra100 the question issss......how the fuck did the gt win? think the mach 1 needs a driver mod
firechaisson 4 months ago
@firechaisson looks to me like a dead heat given the GT won the launch...
DaBluedude100 3 months ago
no way
hamoodo666 1 year ago
Everytime i see a video of a Mach racing pussystang100 always talking shit about machs when he has no idea what he's even talking about. Saying GTs are faster than machs stock abs cobras are so much faster than everything else lol ur a fucking joke. Like I said before, don't worry bout getting a mustang. Just go get a civic instead!
B52DIRK360 1 year ago
snakestang is an idiot Mach vs a GT not even a race the gt redlines @5600 machs 6800 for 1. 2 its a 2-3v vs a 4v and its a whole differ monster.They were slightly under rated but not making 340 lol
1badmach103 1 year ago
ok then if the mach 1s are sooo much faster than gts, please explain to me how i have beat them before on several various occasions!!!!!!!! The gt and the mach 1s are so close in power, it is nothing more than a mere drivers race.
snakestang100 1 year ago
you have no idea what your talking about! not only has ford documented the fact that mach1s are at 330hp, but there are countless dyno charts proving stock mach1s spin 330 at the crank NOT 305hp FAG. on top of that paul svinicki a pro late model driver ran 12.97@105.1 on d/r with a fucking bone stock mach1. show me a stock gt that can run that, and maybe i will that $5 whore u call a mom stand on one of the good street corners for a change
svbummin 1 year ago
im calling b.s. on that quarter time. And insulting my mom doesnt change the fact that mach 1s even if they did have 330 hp, is still less than 100 hp from the gt, not much of a difference. Whoever is the better driver will win. You probably dont even have a mach 1 do you?
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boondocksaint18 1 year ago
Its not just the power difference.The GT power band peaks and then goes strategy down . the mach1s power is high and steady like a ls1. meaning yes the power difference is not omg insane . but the amount of time the mach 1 keeps peak power is leaps be on how long the gt does.you still got allot 2 learn
12.97 sounds about right for a faster mach 1.I have the weakest l1 fbody fully loaded to run a best of a 13.23 on factory rubber dead stock. and good machs run the same times a faster ls1 fbodys.
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actually, for a stock mach 1 that is fast. all im saying is that a gt with exhaust and cai will be a drivers race against a mach 1, their not that fast dude. the mach 1 people think they have something special like a cobra just because it has a 4v motor.
snakestang100 1 year ago
Ok post a video of it . you got a GT get a camcorder and find a mach . What 1/4 mile times does your GT run any . Its youtube so tube it lol
boondocksaint18 1 year ago
the mach 1 is the cobra engine
rickg156 1 year ago 2
yes it's the same motor, but without the supercharger isn't it
SaleenSterlingS302 1 year ago
dumbest kid on youtube... 19 year old moron....
Mitroff85 1 year ago
You are such a dumbass. Do some research. The Mach engine is identical to the Cobra engines minus the Terms.Alum block, forged internals, Sold rear axle, 3.55 factory gears make Machs beasts. These guys can't drive.
flashstang04 1 year ago
@flashstang04 Actually maybe its you that need to do the research. Mach 1 and 03-04 Engines are different. The Mach has a forged crank only (manual only). The WAP block used on the Mach is slightly different (casting differenced) than the Cast Block in the Cobra. It seems that we all are Stang fans and or owners, we should show respect to each other instead of hate. This part is for everyone... Stop posting made up numbers you read from forums its B.S. Get your cars on a dyno, remember tissues.
NomadGT 1 year ago
@NomadGT ....... Noicely Said.
lllTechniqlll 1 year ago
@snakestang100 Exhaust and intake it'd be a drivers race? You really honestly TRULY believe that an intake, and exhaust, shit lets just say FULL exhaust (LTs, mid pipe, catback) that those mods will give you 40-50whp? They don't make any power off of bolt ons. A CAI on a 16v gt won't gain shit and a full exhaust won't even make enough to hang with a mach 1 hahahah. Plus it's a 32v motor, with 4vs per cylinder. You're such a dipshit kid. I'm embarrassed you own a ford making us look bad.
iCaughtNessy 1 year ago
@iCaughtNessy First of all, 40 hp isnt much at all, secondly, the mach 1 weighs about 300 lbs more than a gt!! Im pretty sure that 300 lbs less can make up for 40 hp, especially with a few minor bolt ons. Like i said before, i have driven them both, and theres really not much of a difference.
snakestang100 1 year ago
Again its not about the 40 hp difference . a gt could 50 more hp and would loose to a stock mach 1 .
at this point your thinking buuuuwhhhaaa.
Ill explain for you .The big difference is that the Mach1 power band run near peak power all they way into the 6,000 rpm rage and comes in very early .
the Gt makes it power later and looses peak power at 4,600 making a very weak power band .
boondocksaint18 1 year ago
ya thats true. I guess your right. Macha are faster then. I thought they cut off at 5000 rpms. GTs might not be as fast, but they are still fast cars. Im getting a 03 cobra in a few months though. Im still trying to decide whether or not to get a mach 1 or a cobra. Like, what do you think i would have to do to make the mach faster than a terminator?
snakestang100 1 year ago
I would prefer a mach 1 myself. I enjoy its looks inside and out more then a cobra. but really it would come down to witch 1 i could get a better deal on.
boondocksaint18 1 year ago
@snakestang100 you dont deserve to own a mach you stupid little fuck! and the manual is less than 200lbs heavier do your reaserch
svbummin 1 year ago
@svbummin well then maybe ill just buy a terminator and beat the shit out of a mach 1, since i dont "deserve" to own one.
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@snakestang100 at least then you would have something worth owning, and you still wouldnt be able to touch a mach1 with mods like mine. its the same argument as before a light bolt on mach vs a stock corba is a drivers race. and there are plenty of dragstrip vids on here to prove it
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@svbummin well then maybe ill just buy a terminator and beat the shit out of a mach 1, since i dont "deserve" to own one.
snakestang100 1 year ago
@svbummin The difference is between a standard mach and automatic is but a dozen pounds. the difference between the 03-04 mach's and 03- 04 Termis is well here s the curb weights. 03 -04 Mach1 (3317) 03-04 Cobras ( 3665).
lllTechniqlll 1 year ago
@lllTechniqlll Thank the the IRS and T-56 for that.
NomadGT 1 year ago
@NomadGT Im well aware of that.
lllTechniqlll 1 year ago
@lllTechniqlll the cobras are that much heavier?? why?
2889joeracer 1 year ago
@2889joeracer It's the IRS. It make the cobras better for the twisties but it hurts them when it comes to the straights. Regardless their still quick.
lllTechniqlll 1 year ago
@lllTechniqlll solid axle conversion anyone??
2889joeracer 1 year ago
it's not 40 hp. The mach 1s were underrated they really are at about 320-330 to the crank which is around 280rwhp while the gt is about 230rwhp. That's a 50 RWHP difference, and 60-70 hp difference at the crank. Will 300lbs help you keep up with a mach 1? hell no. Do you realize how many bolt ons it takes to make a gt have 280rwhp? You need heads and cams to make 300rwhp, while the mach1 only needs a couple bolt ons. Now you are educated, so quit being a dumbass.
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actually you can see it in the background of one of my vids. got it in 2003 with 34 miles on it. now its full bolton, light port&polish, with some suspension upgrades. i have yet to find a N/A GT 2 or 3 valve that can keep up, but then again i know how to drive. a full bolton GT with a cam or heads would be a drivers race but stock 4 stock u would lose. there are GT owners on here with full boltons bragging about running 13.7. when that would be a really slow run in a mach1
svbummin 1 year ago
@svbummin well its been proven that the ls1 trans ams and camaros have about 345 hp to the wheel so i believe that the mach 1 is underrated and also the mach 1 is a huge difference from the gt 1. 4v and two its got more power and torque idk why these people understand lol but thats not saying much for svt if there supercharger only added 60 hp to the crank in the 2003-04 cobras
americanman911 1 year ago
Internals on a 5 speed mach are better but auto is the sam cast iron crank.. 5Speed machs have a forged crank like the cobra which makes modding worth it
brett347nos 1 year ago
or do what i did.. put a 5.4 in my 04 gt mustang.
carmello0000 2 years ago
i drive a gt but ive heard the mach 1's were underated and actually have more like 330 @ thecrank
soulerflare7 2 years ago
Okay, so i'm having a hard time believing that a mach 1 lost to gt. that should be illegal.
777saleens 2 years ago
the mach 1 and the gt arent that different at all. The mach 1 has 305 hp and the gt has 260. thats only 45 more, not much. and the mach 1 has a heavier motor. You could easily beat one with a few aftermarket peices like throttle bodu, cai, and a exhaust.
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777saleens 2 years ago
mach 1s arent supercharged.
snakestang100 2 years ago
and the bullit had a 4v motor but it only had 265 hp. Thats the same thing as the gts 2v pretty much. So that proves that 4vs arent shit either unless you do stuff to them.
snakestang100 2 years ago
bullitt's never had the modular 4v. only sohc
svbummin 2 years ago
No, the Bullitt had a 2v. My buddy has one, same valve covers as a 2v GT. not the huge ones like on the cobra's/Mach 1
Treyb0220 1 year ago
@snakestang100 SERIOUSLY Bro. WOW!!!11
NomadGT 1 year ago
NO,no, no... The Mach 1 has huge potential and is a lot quicker than a standard Gt. Different interior, gear, block, internals, its a 4v. And it is less weight, suspension, brakes, etc... A lot
2007ShelbyCobra 2 years ago
not much? have you ever rode in a mach 1? my buddy just traded his full bolt on 3.73's geared GT for a stock Mach 1. that Mach 1 will leave that GT in the dust, and we know too because we raced the GT.we put 4 cars on him to 100. have the GT been stock it would have been alot worse
Treyb0220 1 year ago
your on crack! the mach1 has an all aluminum motor(heads&block)way lighter. not to mention better suspension and brakes, along with subframe connectors,thicker sway & banard bars and 10.1:1 compression. they are under rated and spin 325-330hp at the crank but ford had problems with timing right from the factory, which left some machs 20-30hp less
svbummin 1 year ago
which still doesnt change the fact that they are barely faster than a gt. i have driven one before at a dealership because i was going to buy it, but i wasnt too impressed for the price they were asking, i could have got a terminator
snakestang100 1 year ago
yeah this comming from a guy who thought a bullit had a 4v making 265hp. YOUR A MORON--330hp vs 265hp wow yeah thats just barley faster-dumbass
svbummin 1 year ago
Actually the mach 1s only have 305 hp, not 340 underrated hp -- dumbass. And last time i checked, 40 hp wasnt that much of a difference. I have driven cobras, mach 1s and gts, and between the mach 1 and the gt, their is no difference except a feeling of little boost when you punch it due to the functional hood scoop. The mach 1s are nice, but they are still shit compared to the cobras :b
snakestang100 1 year ago
oooo no buddy yea ok 305 watever dohc way to go stock on stock a whole second faster there guy..lol
mustangmafia1 1 year ago
@snakestang100 Your wrong about the motor there chief. The Mach motor is lighter as the block itself weighs 84lbs compared to 175lbs. Seriously guy where do you get your information from? BTW any mod motor owner knows this one thing that I have not seen mention here is gears. Ford Motorsports recommends for the new edge mustang 3:73's. Most guys I know run 3:73 and up. The Mach 3:55's stock GT 3:27's stock. Snake please bro... Get some books, real data.
NomadGT 1 year ago
@NomadGT What you state is common knowledge.
lllTechniqlll 1 year ago
@lllTechniqlll Agreed but unfortunately there are many on here that lack common knowledge.
NomadGT 1 year ago
@NomadGT ... True true.... Valid point made. Supported by yours truly.
lllTechniqlll 1 year ago
might be an auto mach 1
CmMustang03 2 years ago
are those boyd coddingtons on the blue mach
Cschoening091 2 years ago
No its not that... its cuz this mach 1 driver cant race for SHIT!! ive seen this fucker loose to a crx.. hes a discrase 2 mach 1 owners.
marquis781 2 years ago
obviously the Mach 1 wasn't trying. The Mach 1 can smoke any year GT.
mathwiz39 2 years ago 5
maybe there are some mods we dont know about. different tires and or suspension seemed to be the case on the line along with the fact the mach wasnt ready. they kept a constant distance which makes me think hes got some quality bolt ons and a tune
2889joeracer 2 years ago
yeah 2889joeracer is right. my 04 GT would be able to easily run down a stock mach 1. few simple mods and youre looking at more power than the mach 1 with less weight to haul around. but the potential of a mach 1 is fantastic. no one should under estimate the 4.6 DOHC motor
608gamer07 2 years ago
Your saying you can make 45 HP with a few "simple" mods? Doubtful. Ive yet to find a GT with the basic mods that can even touch me. Im not saying a GT can't, im just saying it can't with a few simple mods as you put it.
TheJester921 2 years ago
its not about horsepower. some 4.10s with a tune and some 275 40 17 drag radials on the rear and you can out 1/4 mile a stock mach 1. there are many more factors than horsepower and remember the standard GT weighs about 200 pounds less than the mach 1. and even if it was about horsepower a CAI catback exhaust and mid pype and you can make up the lost horsepower. now granted i would have to say the DOHC motor in the mach 1 has much more potential and would be a good swap for a GT
608gamer07 2 years ago
That was at 608gamer, and I have a stock 03 Mach 1 BTW
TheJester921 2 years ago
@mathwiz39 not a 2011.
dre5491 1 year ago
@mathwiz39 except the 2011s haha
skoobertdoo 1 year ago
nice blue looks good
MUSTANGMAN50LX 2 years ago
04 Mach's are 310 stock 03 were 305
03GTBAMF 2 years ago
I think the 2004 GT= 260hp Stock
and the 2004 Mach1=305hp Stock
is this correct or am I wrong???
alchype 2 years ago 9
@alchype correct
joshblacker1 1 year ago
GO!!! haha tools
franx10287 2 years ago
are they even flooring it. Iv raced both of those cars (not them but similar cars) and there should of been an overwelming sound coming from them both.
and 15 seconds in or so they should of been doing 100+ and it dosnt look like it
sharkbait11 2 years ago
y did he put those rims on the mach1!!
andyvp89 2 years ago 3
Then why are'nt 5 second top fuel funny cars automatics????????? they are still 2 speed manuals....MANUAL
OHFORSTANG 2 years ago
are you really that dumb? do you think a lenco is even CLOSE to the same as in any production car? autos are better for going down a drag strip hints the idea that 90% of all cars built to drag race are autos.
HKuspDADDY 2 years ago
Stick shifts are for drivers autos are the lazy way out.
bullittben50 2 years ago 3
no autos are for guys that like to go fast and go the same EACH TIME. in 100 passes i would run within a tenth each time the BEST drives in the world cant come close to that in a stick. dont get me wrong sticks have a place, it just happens to be with 16 year olds that dont really know anything about drag racing. or people that need to go to a track that the start finish line are in the same place.
HKuspDADDY 2 years ago
I'm within a tenth when I race with my manual trans. I to believe auto trans have their place...in the hands of an old man or women driving to the doctor.
bullittben50 2 years ago 4
they shift faster, hints the idea why the GTO is faster auto, and the C6 is faster auto, its not had for a company that KNOWS what they are doing to make the auto as fast or faster. the ONLY advantage is the launch and with stock tires the auto will win. TCI has the super street fighter with a 32-3500 rpm stall that GAURANTEES to drop 4-6 tenths off a stock LS1's 1/4 mile time. cant get that with a tranny upgade in a stick. all you can do is make it last longer
HKuspDADDY 2 years ago
The auto is behind the stick in a race by at least 4-6 tenths compared to a stick!!! Depending on the trans model or make. I'm sorry man but ask any pro stock NHRA racer and see what they say about the manuals.
bullittben50 2 years ago
listen to what you saying , no car in production today has that big a diff between its autos and manuals not one, the auto c6 and gto are faster than the 6 speed.
HKuspDADDY 2 years ago
The auto mach's redline at 5800 and the M5 machs redline at 6800. This is due to different cranks. The 1/4 mile difference is about .5.
grey03mach1 2 years ago
or...........standards are for those that want to drive their drag car to and from work/school from time to time without the annoyance of a 4800 stall or higher lol
DEMONSPEEDIN 2 years ago
i never had a problem with a 3200 rpm conerter, never seen a 4800 on the street NEVER, if your going that high it would have a line lock or trans break
HKuspDADDY 2 years ago
I'm no dumbass HKuspDADDY. Automatic transmissions are used in drag racing MOST of the time because they are consistant. That is MOST of the time. The Lenco isn't even close to a factory manual transmission. Auto trans are easier on the drivetrain too. Manual trans take more talent and or practice to drive. I'm no dumbass....
bullittben50 2 years ago
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ummmm? a built auto is by far faster than a stick shift car...manuals are for children
AmericanOrNothing 2 years ago