Lane Community College kicks off our Tobacco Free Campus on 9/27/10 with this rap.

[zakbroman]

wow

[PowerfrogsBeotch]

I just vomited all over my screen in pure rage.

[Klukie1994]

butt out!

[dyston1c]

what about weed, smoke weed errday

[Serrah0]

This video just gave me lung cancer.

[keckelma]

I'm an LCC student... I'm a smoker... and after watching this, I just decided I'm never going to quit.

[ThupinTheLird]

whole thing plays like a tim and eric sketch

[doodalseenpier]

iam going to start smoking now i dont want to be part of this in any way

[Bisected8]

2010? Are sure this wasn't made in the frakkin' 80's!?

[Icalasari]

Is this saying that by not smoking, I will be subjected to this? Fuck, they never mentioned this!

[dontfreakinimme]

Omfg, did Michael Scott write and direct this?

[medamorth]

I hope that no one goes to your college because of this.

[chromesthesia]

They didn't see that episode of south park.

[ecscottindiana]

GLITTER! YAYAYAYAY

[jyze]

IM GONNA GO THERE AND SMOKE A FAT JOINT AND HAVE A BONG HIT AFTER.

[mknlb50]

Why are they all fidgeting like crack fiends?

[Dylnuge]

I feel like I'm hearing "No Surprises," by Radiohead in the background very faintly--anyone else notice this?

[skateplayguitar]

@Dylnuge You just made me listen to that way closer than i wanted to. and no i didn't hear it

[thepsionicstorms]

This video just inspired me to start smoking.

[doeeyeddoll]

@thepsionicstorms I was thinking the same thing.

[Oroborus12]

If this is the best non-smoking advocacy has to offer... I'm gonna start advocating smoking right away so I am at the least risk of being anything like this. Seriously, this gives me the willies, I couldn't even finish it. Hold on, while I find some way to un-see this.

[ryanduchin]

this makes me want to smoke more cigarettes to kill myself faster

[zagnutmonster]

Clearly an ivy league college

[gmoney1337]

The 80's called, they want their grooves back.

[mazzterofdizzaster90]

GENIUS

[willydidwhat]

what a bunch of muppets

[INT3L818]

If we stop smoking we turn into idiots is the message of the video??

[sgm2005fu]

Sweet Jesus. Are these people special in the head?

[redoregon]

Lame.

[IHYDdimo]

jaw meet floor, floor, jaw

[GoldenUrethra]

This makes me want to start smoking. Good grief.

[johnharden00]

To all that people that are disliking this video - you gotta give them props for the funny way of telling them.

[MyNerb]

Oregon school nice. But Oregon will never stop Smoking ;-)

[iamisandisnt]

BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[2dreamy]

Even though this is is all kinds of awkward, (for matured, picture your mother trying to rock out to Jimmi Hendrix or something.)

You gotta hand it to em', they really do care about your health, kids ;)

[rapTram]

Flag this for infringement of copyright.

[shoegazer666]

i feel like smoking more after watching this trash.

[Matt97]

biggie's got nothing on these mc's

[ciaran036]

WHERE IS AUTOTUNE when we need it.

[PaulTurnerFest]

@ciaran036 Eighteen seconds in.

[rickshawb]

Tupac is Rolling over in his grave.

[digiMatter]

This is just as horrible as I thought it would be.

youtube: Bill Hicks smoking

[vespabones]

I am told all the time at LCC about budget cuts. Why are you wasting my money on this ignorant and out of date pathetic attempt to "relate to the kids" I want a refund from you wasting my money on this crap.

[mikecycle]

This makes my skin crawl. I am embarrassed to be affiliated with LCC. Who the hell thought this would be a good idea?

LCC doing it for the health?

US Death Stats (from CDC onlinie)

#1 Heart disease: 616,067

#2 Cancer: 562,875

#3 Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 135,952

Heart Disease, Stroke, Prostate/ Breast Cancer, Much Higher numbers in people who eat animal products.  Lets ban those too. Cars? Get them outta here. The smoking areas never interfered with my health as much as this video.

[S3NT13NTGL1TCH]

@mikecycle: THANK YOU! It's nice that somebody agrees with me.

[Dougstevensglory]

@mikecycle

alright, those are major health problems our country has! hurray! If you could help one person from dying and all it took was to inhibit their exposure to tobacco smoke would you say no?  or would you say screw that person because I can't help all the other people plagued by a plethora of completely unrelated health concerns, caused by the dozens of other factors. Lane can't solve all those problems and you know it. But they are making an effort.

[vondur6]

So they care about the environment and people's health? Why aren't they going car-free then? Cars produce way more toxic fumes than cigarettes.

[Dougstevensglory]

@vondur6 lets use analogy and say that everything that is bad for you is like getting punched in the face. So we have car fumes and cigarette smoke, that equates to getting punched in the face twice. Wouldn't you rather get punched in the face once rather then twice? Solve one problem at a time, the future will have electric cars, but Lane can't solve that problem. But Lane can take one of those punches to the face away.

[vondur6]

@Dougstevensglory I think tobacco smoke outside where it can easily dissipate is more like a very slight pinch and car exhaust, since obviously an exhaust pipe produces much more fumes than a cigarette, is like a punch in the face.

If you're only going to do away with one then why not the one which is the most harmful?

Why don't you, at the very least, allow all the students and faculty to vote on this before enacting it?

[Dougstevensglory]

@vondur6

how often do you hangout around the parking lot where you can get exposed to the car fumes? As well anybody on campus aside from going to or away from your car.

How is tobacco smoke dissipated and not car fumes? How many people leave their cars on during school hours?

I have rarely ever, if ever heard of anybody getting lung cancer from car fumes, have you? How many people die a year from care fumes? If anything the car fumes is like a pinch and the tobacco smoke is Mike Tyson punch

[Dougstevensglory]

@vondur6

lets say someone does leave their car on for a minute. How prolonged does a tobacco smoker smoke at an instance, 5 to 10 minutes? that's my guess.

it was voted for to ban tobacco smoke, and it was unanimous support for a tobacco free campus a year ago. Which is why it happened.

an estimated 400000 people die a year from tobacco smoke, does the death toll even compare with car fumes? Clearly one is worse the the other ;)

[waaatwat]

Oh god I marked this video as so fucking inappropriate. You're lame old farts. Die already.

[nunyabiznazz2004]

Old People + Rap = Epic fail.

[S3NT13NTGL1TCH]

[...continued from below...] The same could be said about the Eugene/Springfield area as a whole. Instead of looking at the bigger picture, we stick to easy knee-jerk policies that infringe upon basic rights. Examples include the " Downtown Public Safety Zone" and the Pacifica Forum fiasco. It seems that nobody around here actually has a sense of what "civil liberties" means and that scares me. In summary, I can't wait to leave this city and this college for Portland. Feel free to send hatemail.

[S3NT13NTGL1TCH]

I have never been a smoker but this is just stupid. This video exemplifies just one of the multitudes of reasons I hate attending this college. Lets leave the fact that this is embarrassing to watch and almost literally made me sick out of it and just focus on the fact that the students as well as the faculty here at Last Chance College, aka Lame Community College, aka HellCC couldn't really care less about IMPORTANT issues and therefore scapegoat the freedoms of others as an alternative.

[Itipcows]

Are you down with OPP?

[GoldenPigsy]

@Itipcows Yeah you know me.

[Dougstevensglory]

of course all things are thrown out in a year. when things are completely banned. but there is a very simple solution, smoke before you go to school, and when you are done. Anyone can go without cigarettes for a couple of hours, and in the end it would largely benefit a person on many different levels. After all it is a luxury, with nasty second hand ramifications.

[Dougstevensglory]

so in summary your main argument is that "a large portion of smokers are disabled and old" but your fundamental argument can be broken down very easily as you are making generalizations. In actuality the only people that could not make it to the new smoking areas are people that cannot walk. Those people are a very small portion in contrast of the "large portion" you claim. I see people all the time on wheelchairs on campus, but i do not see them on a daily basis. These people would have trouble

[Dougstevensglory]

I say

"....to make LCC a health facility in PART."

are you saying the health clinic and the new health and wellness building are not health facility, and to another extent the gym is a health facility? Overall LCC is clearly an educational institution but it also has health facilities in PART. LCC is way more of a health facility then it is not, but that is of course not what it is as a whole. But i never said that is what is as a whole, it is PART.

[MrTear3]

@Dougstevensglory I am sorry but you are all but completely wrong on that. Most of the building on LCC, as in the vast majority, are NOT health facilities in any way, you you saying "it is more of a health facility than it is not" is a bogus statement.

[Dougstevensglory]

but to say that the a "large" portion of people would have trouble getting to the new spots because they are old as well? give me a break, people that would have trouble getting there are going to be needing walkers and wheelchairs. people in the 40's that are completely capable of walking will not have trouble making the journey if the want to smoke badly enough.

[Dougstevensglory]

re: 5 continued

The fact that you dont NEED to smoke coupled with the fact that is is harmful to others gives great adherence for the near most ban to the future complete ban.

You are misusing the term discrimination, as if you are being largely persecuted against, when in fact you are being merely inconvenienced.

I noticed you didn't mention anything on the fact that you are not going to be on campus all day, and that not smoking for a couple of hours.....is it really that intolerable?

[MrTear3]

@Dougstevensglory I did not say it was intolerable for me, but as I mentioned that there are those that are disabled that smoke, and no I am not trying to twist this into discrimination towards the disabled, but many of them feel like that is one of the few things they can easily enjoy, as do many non-disabled smokers with anxiety disorders or depression.

[Dougstevensglory]

re: 5

the current places smoking places can be considered discriminatory towards people with asthma! But you say it is discriminatory as if smoking were a necessary action, as necessary as a person in a wheel chair needs a ramp for access. You are saying you, by the polices being discriminatory, that you NEED to smoke, but as I said before smoking is a luxury, you DONT need to do it.

[MrTear3]

@Dougstevensglory I did not say I needed to smoke. What is interesting here is that you are in fact being the rude one in this exchange and I have been at worst curt with my responses. Are you even aware that a large portion of smokers at LCC are older, or are disabled? Sometimes both? Sure I agree that some of the areas on campus for smoking were placed without thought, near heavily used thoroughfares, but there were a few out of the way that need not be moved. (cont)

[MrTear3]

@MrTear3 The first one to come to mind is the one behind the lunchroom under cover, it is only a parking area, and many of the individuals that I saw park there smoked themselves (obviously not all of them). For a non-smoker, that is pretty far out of the way, even if heading to class, as it is far more convenient and quicker to go through the cafeteria.

[Dougstevensglory]

@MrTear3

I maybe a little rude, but stems for my strong disdain for smoking, its one of the worst things invented and it amazes me that people still do it.

so you "large portion of smokers at LCC are older, or are disabled?" I have walked by the smoking spots to notice the contrary to this. I do on occasion see people in wheelchairs, but a large portion? Not even close. LCC student population is very diverse, ranging from lots of students fresh out of high school to people in their 60's.

[MrTear3]

@Dougstevensglory Worst things invented? What are you talking about? Cars kill more people around the world every year, as do guns, as to prescription medications (although I admit that the meds are because people are not following direction most of the time), cars also put out more carcinogens in a day than 10 smokers could bye far. You say the majority of the students don't smoke, I give you that s it's an obvious thing, but there are more vehicles on that campus every day than there are (con)

[MrTear3]

@MrTear3 (con) smokers every day. If LCC was really trying to lessen air pollution, they would enforce a maximum number of vehicles per day limit, and limit parking space. The buses would be needed more, increasing LTD's profit, allowing more buses to be sent to the school, and in the end DRASTICALLY lowering the amount of air pollution brought in EVERY DAY. Lets get back to your comment about how it is one of the worst (con)

[MrTear3]

@MrTear3 Let's make a list here: Atomic bomb Biological and Chemical warfare The gun Cars conventional bombs Agent Orange Methamphetamine Synthetic hallucinogens Napalm (that's a nasty one) Dynamite Cocaine (although it starts as a plant, refining it is nasty business) The list goes on, there are countless things out there a hell of a lot worse than cigarettes, why not be more aggro about those things? I don't mind you disliking the habit of smoking, that's your thing (con)

[MrTear3]

@MrTear3 (con) but how dare you act as if everyone who does smoke is some horrible uncaring person. Talk about a broad brush attitude. Why not treat governments that make A-bombs like they are horrible uncaring people, why not treat gun manufacturers like they are all horrible uncaring people? What about the makers of dynamite? And before you attempt to say they have uses, I must point out that the uses of those items, are simply to destroy, most in bigger ways than smoking. (con)

[MrTear3]

@MrTear3 (con) Wait, not most of them, all of them, in fact the sole purpose of those items in some fashion or another is to destroy another person's life, or many of them as the case may be (dynamite excluded in part from that as it has industrial uses, but still not completely), or to intimidate those that might be trouble or a nuisance (again, in part excluding dynamite). I want to see you argue that if you can, please explain to me how tobacco ranks ANYWHERE near the things on that list.

[Dougstevensglory]

re: 3 agreed!

re: 4 "Isn't saying it's convenient for smokers, then saying it's inconvenient for non smokers contradictory". not sure how this is contradictory. As smokers like smoking and non smokers do not, thus the smoking areas placed now are convenient placed so students can easily get to them to smoke. For people that do not like it, have to walk out of their way to avoid them, so the current places are inconvenient for non smokers.

[MrTear3]

@Dougstevensglory That barely made sense, but i will point this out:

According to merriam-webster online:

Convenient (when referring to locale): being near at hand : close "a location convenient to the train station"

And it's out of the way a decent distance for non smokers, ergo it is inconvenient for smokers as well, it can not be both. It may be conveniently placed for non smokers, but it is an inconvenient and out of the way place to go for smokers.

[Dougstevensglory]

@MrTear3

Every time I said inconvenient for non smokers I was referring to current places. the new locations do not take effect til the 9/27. It is one of the many reasons for the change, why on earth would I say the new locations would be inconvenient for non smokers?

[MrTear3]

@Dougstevensglory You said the new locations would be convenient for smokers, yet inconvenient for non smokers.

[MrTear3]

This new rule is discriminatory considering the campus is supposed to be publicly accessible. Also, many disabled students smoke, and you are saying "quit, or walk off campus." Which for most is not possible. Also not taken into consideration is the fact that this is going to put smokers on edge, at the least for a few weeks, which is going to cause problems as well. Congratulations on not looking at these other facts, and simply being aggressively against smoking.

[Dougstevensglory]

@MrTear3

are you that weak that you cannot go without smoking for a few hours? how about the majority of people that dislike smoking? Which far out ways that of the people that approve of smoking. It is the way of the future, if you don't like it, then go live in Mexico.

[Dougstevensglory]

@MrTear3

you smokers really don't give a crap about other people. you need to get your SH**ty fix. Which does what for you? you waste money, it makes you feel like crap, it puts junk into the air and you demand for other people to tolerate it. Then you throw your butts all over the place.

It's awesome that a public area like LCC is limiting the places that people can smoke in. The smoking areas are not being removed completely. They are being moved to less trafficked areas, the parking lots.

[Dougstevensglory]

@MrTear3

It's less of an issue of discrimination as it is more of an issue of health. People with health issues have a hard time tolerating tobacco smoke, that they have to endure to get to their next class. The current smoking areas are convenient for smokers, but are not convenient for non smokers.

I know speaking for myself that when I get a whiff of tobacco smoke it makes me feel nauseous.

[MrTear3]

@Dougstevensglory

1. I go out of my way to not make a mess and also to stay out of a non-smokers way.

2. You are telling me to freely give up a freedom that I have here in the US, or move to Mexico, that's rich, really savvy.

3. I agree that those smokers that can not be courteous should be punished in some way on the campus and elsewhere.

4.Isn't saying it's convenient for smokers, then saying it's inconvenient for non smokers contradictory, as they are all still human.

[MrTear3]

@MrTear3

And finally 5: Lane IS planning on completely removing the smoking areas next year, and that is discriminatory against those that smoke, as LCC is not a health facility.

[MrTear3]

@MrTear3 In addition to 5: Nor is it a place that caters specifically to minors.

[Dougstevensglory]

@MrTear3

actually it is. a brand new health and wellness building is under construction. There is a nursing program as well currently a health clinic. As well this tobacco free policy compliments these other venues to make LCC a health facility in part.

[MrTear3]

@Dougstevensglory No, it won't, it will make it a campus that has a large health facility on campus, not an actual medical facility.

[Dougstevensglory]

@MrTear3

re:1 you are one of the good ones then, way too many others have ruined it....

re:2 I am not saying anything of the sort. The bottom is that smoking is a luxury, but it is a luxury that is unpleasant, extremely so, to those that do no participate. As a luxury there is no upright need to do it. So smoke your cigs before you go to school and when you are done. Mexico....lol, my bad attempt and showing that places like Mexico are less desirable to live.....for many reasons! ;)