@G716M Halal food (and Kosher, too) are discriminatory to non-Muslims (and Jews, too).
Halal is the product of Muslim religious law called "Sharia" and the very act of consuming such products makes the non-Muslim an enabler of a belief system that they don't agree with.
@worldlifeable oh how boring, and typically islamic., ive been looking at yous for over ten years, ive met many islamics, some are friends but they know my thoughts on their religion and we dont discuss it because I, like many around the world and certainly a greater number than are muslims, all think it is a religion borne of a peadophiles words - get a life, we know more about you than you of us, and it stinks
Not taste the difference... What is she stoned, you gona tell me you cant taste the difference between bacon and turkey. Besides if you cant taste the difference dont tell them its bacon, honestly what can happen if they eat it anyway, are they gona explode (Oh yeah thats probably what happens...) belay that comment.
Don't you get it? You have eric cartman as a profile picture and what does eric cartman always say? ''suck my balls". You can fuck all the women in my country as long it's not my girlfriend. Bon jour, frenchy.
Hey France, where's all the tolerance your always moaning about? You have the right to choose? You can, you can go the McDonald's, Burger King or what ever other burger joints you have there. How about Chinese, Thai, Sushi? Maybe the Muslims you are so intent on messing with don't like snails. You banned certain articles of clothing, now your banging on about a burger? Pathetic. The Jews don't serve pork either, nor some Christian faiths, going to start boycotting them too?
@Nicodemus98 no its just that the french, like most in europe, find that muslims leave the worst taste in the mouth, dont talk about tolerance from an islamic viewpoint, islam doesnt even allow women to find love outwith their abusive arranged marriages or gays to live the way they want, or indeed other religions to flourish within islamic countries - fuck you islam the french are leading the way, europe is beginning to follow - vive la france & entente cordial
these are without doubt the slowest fking slow motion bunch of cokmunchers to ever serve plastic half cooked food. ive seen human statue street performers move quicker. bring a newspaper - seriously.
FRANCE & EUROPE WORLD IS MOST RACISM, MUSLIM WORLD NEVER RACISM NEVER DISRIMINATION ANY RELIGION, THAT WHY WORLD ALL RELIGION DONT HAVE KNOWLEDGE ISLAM, IT TRUE , IT REASON PORK IS EASY DANGEROUS BECUAESE MUCH SEX MUCH BEHAVE LIKE PORK PIG,
In don't see the problem. Do they have nothing better to bicker about? If halal is so offensive, go down the street to the next place. Fast-food places in the states do this all the time, certain ones have certain things depending on the state or area. How is this any different from chinese places, or fish joints? Don't tell me every restaurant in france sells the exact same foods? France is really showing their islamophobic colours. Worse than america even!
@SumireIsrafel dude it's their fucking country, why do muslims complain so fucking much?!?!? you go into everyone country and expect people to accomodate their lifestyles for you WHY????? i bet there are no hardees and ribs in saudi arabia lol....
No one is being FORCED. If you don't like to eat halal then go to McDonalds, Burger King or any of the other hamburger chains readily available in France. This is nothing but Islamophobia, why? Becaue private business is just that PRIVATE. A store dedicated to selling Men's clothing cannot be said to discriminate against women because any private enterprise has the freedom to choose what they want to sell. It is not for politicians to decide! This is nothing but RACISM!
@Pachiavelli cant be racism as islam isnt a race, if islamists dont like pork being served they can go and live in an islamic country, a french person who would rather support his own countries burger brand is being forced away becuase of islamophobia in the tru sense - that is bend to suit them for fear of their reprisal. fuck islam
Thats not even the point here. Quick is a shitty brand and aint worth your time. But the state which is a state as we call it laïc, which means a total separation from any kind of religious involvement of any kind, has shares in the company. Which means that it would make the state promote one religion over another one. As a man raised in a roman catholic setting and being an atheist I find that completely inacceptable.
@Churchx77 i think its exactly the point, start giving the inch and they will take the mile quick may be shit but its french, i cant recall the french objecting to pork
Yup. France is starting to wake up. The far right keeps growing in size because neither the left nor the right will adress the right issues. So ultimately they're gonna have to act.
@Churchx77 france has always been a bit switched on - i dont think the far right are growing so much as the right is growing, or right sided politics are growing - we are all coming to the very slow conclusion that although its a lovely thought for some, thte idea of a patchwork society made up of all sorts actually does more harm to that society than remaining by and large indigenous, its not racism - i couldnt care about the melanin count, its cultural and clearly cultures clash, islam often
People will wake up eventually. I mean we hear so much about Islam and muslims when we're a population of over 60 millions and muslims make roughly about 5 mil.
@Churchx77 i know and look what that 5 million are able to do - imagine what 30m would do with france? nip it in the bud NOW, deny islamic rights in the west the way thwey deny our rights in their countries and the way they deny human rights to all
@utrapzab We don't deny non Muslim rights in our countries, as the west runs our countries, are you not watching the revolutions in Muslim countries???
@ShadowSoundsUK you are from the UK - what are you talking about? are you british or other? and if you are british whats this 'we dont deny......' comment all about?
@utrapzab I am half British half Egyptian. I am a Muslim. My mother is a revert, my grandmother is a revert. However, we have learned the hard way that people who make statements such as yourself do not really like to consider us British, hence why I made the comment the way I did, forgetting that I had "UK" in my youtube name ;)
@ShadowSoundsUK so on this weekend of all weekends you forgot you were british - sounds to me you are only british when it suits you - when you want benefits or housing or medical attention for example. thank fuq the tories are begining to squeeze this attitude. your mother and grandmother are nnot reverts - no one is born religious, this is typical islamic propaganda - it deosnt work, no baby is born with religious knowledge. you are only british if you adhere to british ways, muslims dont
OKAY, MUSLIM NEED HALAL , VERY CAREFULLY , BECUASE MUSLIM WILL ILL DISEASE VIRUS CANCER SWINE FOR EAT PIG PORK, THAT WHT MUSLIM NOT ALLOWED EAT PORK, CHRISTIAN OR WORLD CAN EAT PORK IS NO PROBLEM, THAT WHY WORLD ALWAY JEALOUS OVER ISLAM ,
lol look how pale that mayor is.... seriously though a burger without bacon, national disgrace they should close down any stores that freely exercise control over their menus, I mean what next.... vegetarian restaurants? places that serve breakfast all day? it chaos people and it has to be stopped.
WHY ALL RELIGION ALWAY DISCRIMNATION ISLAM MUSLIM PEOPLE, U DONT SEE IT,
IF THERE NO HALAL INFRANCE THAT FRANCE MUSLIM WONT EAT PORK TRUST ME , BECUASE ALLAH LAW IN QURAN, CHRISTIAN JEW ALL RELIGION POLICITAL WORD IS REALLY STUPID NOT RESPECT ISLAM, I SEE IT EUROPE MUCH DISCRIMINATION MUSLIM WOMEN,
I'm Black and i've only found love in Islam, from all ethnicities. Anyways, on the subject of racism, history is history, but today Christians still continue there racism throughout many parts of the world, especially America.
First of all, most fast food restaurants no longer sell pork burgers; beef is the standard.
Second of all, Halal just means that it guarantees that the animal was slaughtered in the least violent way; also it's not more expensive and it doesn't taste any different.
On the other hand, almost every damn product you buy in any store is Kosher; meat or no meat, and you are paying extra for that. Who do you think makes the money there?
Islam means submission to Arabs, thats why Muslims bow down to Arabia five times a day because they believe (rich) Arabs are the master race - that is what racism means when people believe one 'race' is superior to another 'race'
Nobody in their right mind is going to eat Halal unless they are a Cannibal.
I feel bad for the ANIMALS in general, not anly it is discriminatoire but racist, and the way they kill the an animals are in violeati ith our VALUES ! BARBARRIC CULTURE beurk !
Halal requires the animal has to be slaughtered according to the Quran 6.121 in honour of Allah.
Praising Allah is inciting racial violence. Allah's Quran says (Surah 3.106 - 3.107) Only white people are allowed in Islamic paradise and blacks get Hellfire. (Surah 5.59 - 5.60) Jews and Christains are Apes and Pigs. (Surah 6.69) War is to be waged Non Believers and Peaceful Muslims.
Anybody caught selling any Halal should therefore be prosecuted for inciting violence and racial Hatred.
Your interpretation / translation of (3:106 - 3:107) is erroneous. It does not say white people would go to paradise and blacks to hell! Whats said is that peoples faces would turn bright or dark on the day of judgment based on their deeds and acceptance or rejection of faith. Some of the most prominent figures in Islamic history were black (as you would expect because its a middle-eastern religion). Islam does not discriminate based on skin colour.
Any superstitious book which rewards those who follow it's precipts by turning their faces white and punishing those who disobey by turning their faces black, not color racist?
The fact that some African Blacks (useful idiots) may have done well in Arab Supremacist (Islamic) societies does not make those societies any less color racist than pre-abolishionist US because it allowed free blacks to own black slaves themselves.
Well no it is racism based on skin tone! Light and Dark have always been used as motifs to represent good and evil. That is exactly what the Quran is referring to, those with belief would have bright faces (even if they are black) and those who dont would have dark faces (even if they are white)! It would be a physical representation of their deeds without any change in skin tone! I dont personally believe in all this but am compelled to be intellectually honest when discussing such matters!
Well my unstated premise is that at the time of the invention of Islam, since Arabs were involved in the slave trade of African Blacks, you expect to find put downs of African Blacks to occur in their holy book (As the Christians did with Jews in the New Testament)
Forinstance the default for the word Kaffir is African Black (as copied by Apartied South Africa), or else why would Zakir refer to the White Kuffar 13:30 watch?v=e0ElTxRbiDE
I dont agree with your premise in its entirety. Islam like most religions before it came about at a time when slavery was an acceptable practice in society but I dont believe the Quran anywhere differentiates its followers based on their skin tone. According to Islam Allah does not differentiate among people other than their belief or deeds. There is no concept of racism in Islam and this was an appealing factor for people who were discriminated against based on colour or cast to accept Islam.
I totally agree that all religions have problems and one would expect no less because all of them are man made. However, muslims discriminating against dark-skinned Africans does not mean Islam condones such behavior and to make that correlation would be erroneous.
Check out this Islamic artwork. Scroll down to the 3 depictions of Muhammad when he visits Hell.
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If the description in the Quran of people in Hell as being black was meant to be purely metaphorical then how come these Deamons have African features?
Attributing an artistic impression to what is being said in the Quran is no different to reading an erroneous translation and projecting it to Allah's word. The surah you mentioned as promoting racial violence said nothing of the sort! Racial discrimination is solely to do with skin tone and the Surah in question does not refer to skin tones at all! It refers to visible auras that people would have indicative of their belief or lack thereof! It has nothing to do with racism.
The literal translation of the verse 3.106 is 'A day (when) faces whiten and faces blacken' The 'Yusuf Ali' translation is ameliorated (as happens a lot) 'bright' has nothing to do with it.
Before Islam there was no association of dark with evil or light with good. 'Ethiopians' lived throughout Rome and Greece and regarded as complete equals. My people the Brits were white but preferred to darken themselves with wode - the term Brit comes from Greek for painted people.
The translation of 3:106 I have reads "On the Day when some faces brighten and others darken..."
Light and Dark to represent good and evil is a prominent theme both in literature and other religions much before Islam eg Hinduism. The egyptians too had a similar duality with Horus(Sun God) and Seth (His nemesis from the dark underworld) Once again it must be noted that light and dark is not a reference to skin colour. The angels according to Islam are bright too because they are made of light.
Congratulations you have been taqiyyad! Check out an earlier verse in the Sura 3.54, Bet your translation says something like 'Allah is the best planner/ schemer/ deviser' if it does I'll send you a (Islamic) source for a literal translation of the Quran.
The idea of dark equating to black is only very recent, remember the people who wrote the Quran didn't even realise that the Sun caused daylight. We only know white is caused by white light because we are post Newton.
Yeah, but Islam condoning such behavior does not mean it does not happen. The early Islamic Empire into Africa was very much racist against dark-skinned Africans and even the White Europeans it came across...
Your making a logical fallacy. There is no concept of discrimination based on race in Islam. Islam does not condone racism. If certain muslims have practiced it then its the individuals who should be held responsible and not the religion itself. Even if the answer to 'Have there been racist muslims' is a yes; the answer to 'Does Islam promote racism' is a definitive no. Hope you see the difference.
Just like every other culture, the Muslims had to find a reason that the black Africans were being enslaved. Bernard Lewis writes that the enslavement of blacks and their export to the Mediterranean lands and the Middle East continued and was defended by the increasingly flimsy argument that blacks were idolators and thereforethe captives were legally liable to enslavement." I never said Islam promoted racism, only that like Christianity, it was used to justify certain aspects of slavery.
If you did not imply that Islam promoted racism then we dont have any disagreement at all. That's the issue I was discussing with DontBendOverForAllah because he wrongly believes that the Quran condones racial discrimination. So when you replied I presumed you held a similar stance and were correlating the events of racism by muslims were motivated and endorsed by the religion itself.
erm excuse me? muslims discriminate agianst dark skinned africans? lol i am what you call a 'dark skinned african' and i im also a proud muslim. so before u make ridiculous accusations, please ask the people you are referring to.
I'm sure you are proud to be Muslim, but the Islamic Empire did discrimate against the black slaves in Africa. It's not a ridiculous accusation, it is fact. Just as the Christians used religion against the black slaves in the South, the Arab Muslims used Islam to justify the enslavement of black Africans...
If they don't like it, just don't buy stuff there. I thought that was how the market was supposed to work.
kagairu 2 weeks ago
I dont get how halal food is dscrimination to non-Mulsims, its not lilke they are forcing you to eat halal food people canbe such biggots. LOL
G716M 3 months ago
@G716M watch the video again, costumers don't have a choice, they MUST eat halal food. Everyone who disagree with Sharia Law is a biggot, right
trifulquita15 3 months ago
@G716M Halal food (and Kosher, too) are discriminatory to non-Muslims (and Jews, too).
Halal is the product of Muslim religious law called "Sharia" and the very act of consuming such products makes the non-Muslim an enabler of a belief system that they don't agree with.
To foist this upon people is what is bigoted.
SatchmoSings 1 month ago
0:28. there is a difference. hallal slaughtered animals are killed in a more painful way. some ppl rather not be a part of that.
lordrazi111693 5 months ago
it was discrimination without halal meet, now it is ok, nazi's go to sleep
bosnianmuslim92 5 months ago
Well if ths is the problem then each and every outlet should have both food i.e to cater muslims and non muslims. problem solved.
tamrlane420 6 months ago
HI SUP ALL ?!
213Algeria 8 months ago
@worldlifeable or mabye they just read the Qu'ran and saw how satanic it is.
kyle887923 8 months ago
@worldlifeable oh how boring, and typically islamic., ive been looking at yous for over ten years, ive met many islamics, some are friends but they know my thoughts on their religion and we dont discuss it because I, like many around the world and certainly a greater number than are muslims, all think it is a religion borne of a peadophiles words - get a life, we know more about you than you of us, and it stinks
utrapzab 9 months ago
@worldlifeable Yeah, shut the fuck up Abdul and call me when you can string a sentence together.
Churchx77 9 months ago
Wow this is actually quite funny, they aren't giving you a Quran with your burger, they just aren't putting pork in it either...
ShadowSoundsUK 9 months ago
i don't get it go to mcdonalds ass wipes
MrSuper2007 1 year ago
i don't get go to mcdonalds ass wipes
MrSuper2007 1 year ago
Not taste the difference... What is she stoned, you gona tell me you cant taste the difference between bacon and turkey. Besides if you cant taste the difference dont tell them its bacon, honestly what can happen if they eat it anyway, are they gona explode (Oh yeah thats probably what happens...) belay that comment.
GeneralG1810 1 year ago
Don't you get it? You have eric cartman as a profile picture and what does eric cartman always say? ''suck my balls". You can fuck all the women in my country as long it's not my girlfriend. Bon jour, frenchy.
kuttenkijker 1 year ago
Ha, french surrender monkey's
kuttenkijker 1 year ago
Faggot.
Churchx77 1 year ago
@Churchx77 Suck my balls, frenchy.
kuttenkijker 1 year ago
Why you trying to sound that bad guy, you're from the fucking netherland. I fucked a chick from there last summer man.
Churchx77 1 year ago
nyc has many halal places , there isn't any uproar
jupiterscastle 1 year ago
@jupiterscastle thats because yanks are to fucking thick to know the difference,any way they only eat shit
peppersdog1 1 year ago
Hey France, where's all the tolerance your always moaning about? You have the right to choose? You can, you can go the McDonald's, Burger King or what ever other burger joints you have there. How about Chinese, Thai, Sushi? Maybe the Muslims you are so intent on messing with don't like snails. You banned certain articles of clothing, now your banging on about a burger? Pathetic. The Jews don't serve pork either, nor some Christian faiths, going to start boycotting them too?
Nicodemus98 1 year ago 2
@Nicodemus98 no its just that the french, like most in europe, find that muslims leave the worst taste in the mouth, dont talk about tolerance from an islamic viewpoint, islam doesnt even allow women to find love outwith their abusive arranged marriages or gays to live the way they want, or indeed other religions to flourish within islamic countries - fuck you islam the french are leading the way, europe is beginning to follow - vive la france & entente cordial
utrapzab 1 year ago
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Nicodemus98 1 year ago
QUICK? ......fking QUICK?
these are without doubt the slowest fking slow motion bunch of cokmunchers to ever serve plastic half cooked food. ive seen human statue street performers move quicker. bring a newspaper - seriously.
HLecterPHD 1 year ago
Why is eating turkey morally better than eating beef?
doetim 1 year ago
FRANCE & EUROPE WORLD IS MOST RACISM, MUSLIM WORLD NEVER RACISM NEVER DISRIMINATION ANY RELIGION, THAT WHY WORLD ALL RELIGION DONT HAVE KNOWLEDGE ISLAM, IT TRUE , IT REASON PORK IS EASY DANGEROUS BECUAESE MUCH SEX MUCH BEHAVE LIKE PORK PIG,
lahij 1 year ago
In don't see the problem. Do they have nothing better to bicker about? If halal is so offensive, go down the street to the next place. Fast-food places in the states do this all the time, certain ones have certain things depending on the state or area. How is this any different from chinese places, or fish joints? Don't tell me every restaurant in france sells the exact same foods? France is really showing their islamophobic colours. Worse than america even!
SumireIsrafel 1 year ago
@SumireIsrafel dude it's their fucking country, why do muslims complain so fucking much?!?!? you go into everyone country and expect people to accomodate their lifestyles for you WHY????? i bet there are no hardees and ribs in saudi arabia lol....
travelingnomad1 1 year ago
Pretty silly if you ask me.
Why not give people the freedom to choose?
newfful 1 year ago
No one is being FORCED. If you don't like to eat halal then go to McDonalds, Burger King or any of the other hamburger chains readily available in France. This is nothing but Islamophobia, why? Becaue private business is just that PRIVATE. A store dedicated to selling Men's clothing cannot be said to discriminate against women because any private enterprise has the freedom to choose what they want to sell. It is not for politicians to decide! This is nothing but RACISM!
Pachiavelli 1 year ago
@Pachiavelli cant be racism as islam isnt a race, if islamists dont like pork being served they can go and live in an islamic country, a french person who would rather support his own countries burger brand is being forced away becuase of islamophobia in the tru sense - that is bend to suit them for fear of their reprisal. fuck islam
utrapzab 1 year ago
Thats not even the point here. Quick is a shitty brand and aint worth your time. But the state which is a state as we call it laïc, which means a total separation from any kind of religious involvement of any kind, has shares in the company. Which means that it would make the state promote one religion over another one. As a man raised in a roman catholic setting and being an atheist I find that completely inacceptable.
Churchx77 1 year ago
@Churchx77 i think its exactly the point, start giving the inch and they will take the mile quick may be shit but its french, i cant recall the french objecting to pork
utrapzab 1 year ago
Yup. France is starting to wake up. The far right keeps growing in size because neither the left nor the right will adress the right issues. So ultimately they're gonna have to act.
Churchx77 1 year ago 2
@Churchx77 france has always been a bit switched on - i dont think the far right are growing so much as the right is growing, or right sided politics are growing - we are all coming to the very slow conclusion that although its a lovely thought for some, thte idea of a patchwork society made up of all sorts actually does more harm to that society than remaining by and large indigenous, its not racism - i couldnt care about the melanin count, its cultural and clearly cultures clash, islam often
utrapzab 1 year ago
People will wake up eventually. I mean we hear so much about Islam and muslims when we're a population of over 60 millions and muslims make roughly about 5 mil.
Churchx77 1 year ago
@Churchx77 i know and look what that 5 million are able to do - imagine what 30m would do with france? nip it in the bud NOW, deny islamic rights in the west the way thwey deny our rights in their countries and the way they deny human rights to all
utrapzab 1 year ago
@utrapzab We don't deny non Muslim rights in our countries, as the west runs our countries, are you not watching the revolutions in Muslim countries???
ShadowSoundsUK 9 months ago
@ShadowSoundsUK you are from the UK - what are you talking about? are you british or other? and if you are british whats this 'we dont deny......' comment all about?
utrapzab 9 months ago
@utrapzab I am half British half Egyptian. I am a Muslim. My mother is a revert, my grandmother is a revert. However, we have learned the hard way that people who make statements such as yourself do not really like to consider us British, hence why I made the comment the way I did, forgetting that I had "UK" in my youtube name ;)
ShadowSoundsUK 9 months ago
@ShadowSoundsUK so on this weekend of all weekends you forgot you were british - sounds to me you are only british when it suits you - when you want benefits or housing or medical attention for example. thank fuq the tories are begining to squeeze this attitude. your mother and grandmother are nnot reverts - no one is born religious, this is typical islamic propaganda - it deosnt work, no baby is born with religious knowledge. you are only british if you adhere to british ways, muslims dont
utrapzab 9 months ago
Fuck France...
luxenzo 1 year ago
well done french not to halal
ellora5 1 year ago
OKAY, MUSLIM NEED HALAL , VERY CAREFULLY , BECUASE MUSLIM WILL ILL DISEASE VIRUS CANCER SWINE FOR EAT PIG PORK, THAT WHT MUSLIM NOT ALLOWED EAT PORK, CHRISTIAN OR WORLD CAN EAT PORK IS NO PROBLEM, THAT WHY WORLD ALWAY JEALOUS OVER ISLAM ,
lahij 1 year ago
lol look how pale that mayor is.... seriously though a burger without bacon, national disgrace they should close down any stores that freely exercise control over their menus, I mean what next.... vegetarian restaurants? places that serve breakfast all day? it chaos people and it has to be stopped.
BraniusBalki 2 years ago 2
THIS MEAN DISRIMINATION MUSIM ISLAM, IT TRUE,
MUSLIM ISLAM NEVER DISDRIMINATION ANY RELIGION,
WHY ALL RELIGION ALWAY DISCRIMNATION ISLAM MUSLIM PEOPLE, U DONT SEE IT,
IF THERE NO HALAL INFRANCE THAT FRANCE MUSLIM WONT EAT PORK TRUST ME , BECUASE ALLAH LAW IN QURAN, CHRISTIAN JEW ALL RELIGION POLICITAL WORD IS REALLY STUPID NOT RESPECT ISLAM, I SEE IT EUROPE MUCH DISCRIMINATION MUSLIM WOMEN,
lahij 1 year ago
fuck all you idiots
tommycookers 2 years ago
I'm Black and i've only found love in Islam, from all ethnicities. Anyways, on the subject of racism, history is history, but today Christians still continue there racism throughout many parts of the world, especially America.
Salaam to all my brothers and sisters.
ProudBlackMuslim22 2 years ago
@ProudBlackMuslim22
'Christians still continue there racism throughout many parts of the world'
I'm sure they do but only because they are allowing themselves to still be influenced by Islam.
Check out some real racism which is actually happening now, not just against Christians but also against Muslims and guess who is responsible?
watch?v=XngNpFQ71M0
DontBendOverForAllah 2 years ago
This has nothing to do with race...
Would you accept to be forced into something that isn't obligatory in your culture/religion?
fbi10 2 years ago
IF THERE IS NO ISLAM ON EARTH THAT MEAN WILL COME END OR EARTH WILL BEHAVE ANIMAL WITHOUT ISLAM RELIGION, GOD SAKE, EARTH NEED ISLAM
lahij 1 year ago
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hurma056 2 years ago
You're all stupid.
First of all, most fast food restaurants no longer sell pork burgers; beef is the standard.
Second of all, Halal just means that it guarantees that the animal was slaughtered in the least violent way; also it's not more expensive and it doesn't taste any different.
On the other hand, almost every damn product you buy in any store is Kosher; meat or no meat, and you are paying extra for that. Who do you think makes the money there?
How come nobody is complaining about that?
ieee786 2 years ago 2
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hurma056 2 years ago
Islam means submission to Arabs, thats why Muslims bow down to Arabia five times a day because they believe (rich) Arabs are the master race - that is what racism means when people believe one 'race' is superior to another 'race'
Nobody in their right mind is going to eat Halal unless they are a Cannibal.
GOOGLE Charlene Downes Kebab
DontBendOverForAllah 2 years ago
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hurma056 2 years ago
I feel bad for the ANIMALS in general, not anly it is discriminatoire but racist, and the way they kill the an animals are in violeati ith our VALUES ! BARBARRIC CULTURE beurk !
MsGLULU 2 years ago
Boycott Quick and hit them where it hurts
smskinner1001 2 years ago
it starts with 1 thing on the menu- eventually its all halal and theres no alternate non halal choice...
godlessmessiah 2 years ago
Halal requires the animal has to be slaughtered according to the Quran 6.121 in honour of Allah.
Praising Allah is inciting racial violence. Allah's Quran says (Surah 3.106 - 3.107) Only white people are allowed in Islamic paradise and blacks get Hellfire. (Surah 5.59 - 5.60) Jews and Christains are Apes and Pigs. (Surah 6.69) War is to be waged Non Believers and Peaceful Muslims.
Anybody caught selling any Halal should therefore be prosecuted for inciting violence and racial Hatred.
DontBendOverForAllah 2 years ago
Your interpretation / translation of (3:106 - 3:107) is erroneous. It does not say white people would go to paradise and blacks to hell! Whats said is that peoples faces would turn bright or dark on the day of judgment based on their deeds and acceptance or rejection of faith. Some of the most prominent figures in Islamic history were black (as you would expect because its a middle-eastern religion). Islam does not discriminate based on skin colour.
kakamana1000 2 years ago 2
@kakamana1000
Any superstitious book which rewards those who follow it's precipts by turning their faces white and punishing those who disobey by turning their faces black, not color racist?
The fact that some African Blacks (useful idiots) may have done well in Arab Supremacist (Islamic) societies does not make those societies any less color racist than pre-abolishionist US because it allowed free blacks to own black slaves themselves.
DontBendOverForAllah 2 years ago
Well no it is racism based on skin tone! Light and Dark have always been used as motifs to represent good and evil. That is exactly what the Quran is referring to, those with belief would have bright faces (even if they are black) and those who dont would have dark faces (even if they are white)! It would be a physical representation of their deeds without any change in skin tone! I dont personally believe in all this but am compelled to be intellectually honest when discussing such matters!
kakamana1000 2 years ago
@kakamana1000
Well my unstated premise is that at the time of the invention of Islam, since Arabs were involved in the slave trade of African Blacks, you expect to find put downs of African Blacks to occur in their holy book (As the Christians did with Jews in the New Testament)
Forinstance the default for the word Kaffir is African Black (as copied by Apartied South Africa), or else why would Zakir refer to the White Kuffar 13:30 watch?v=e0ElTxRbiDE
DontBendOverForAllah 2 years ago
I dont agree with your premise in its entirety. Islam like most religions before it came about at a time when slavery was an acceptable practice in society but I dont believe the Quran anywhere differentiates its followers based on their skin tone. According to Islam Allah does not differentiate among people other than their belief or deeds. There is no concept of racism in Islam and this was an appealing factor for people who were discriminated against based on colour or cast to accept Islam.
kakamana1000 2 years ago
Muslims did discriminate against dark-skinned Africans, and still do to this day. All religions have their problem...
mjconley12 2 years ago
I totally agree that all religions have problems and one would expect no less because all of them are man made. However, muslims discriminating against dark-skinned Africans does not mean Islam condones such behavior and to make that correlation would be erroneous.
kakamana1000 2 years ago
@kakamana1000
Check out this Islamic artwork. Scroll down to the 3 depictions of Muhammad when he visits Hell.
zombietime(.)com/mohammed_image_archive
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Islamic Depictions of Mohammed in Full
If the description in the Quran of people in Hell as being black was meant to be purely metaphorical then how come these Deamons have African features?
DontBendOverForAllah 2 years ago
@DontBend...
Attributing an artistic impression to what is being said in the Quran is no different to reading an erroneous translation and projecting it to Allah's word. The surah you mentioned as promoting racial violence said nothing of the sort! Racial discrimination is solely to do with skin tone and the Surah in question does not refer to skin tones at all! It refers to visible auras that people would have indicative of their belief or lack thereof! It has nothing to do with racism.
kakamana1000 2 years ago
@kakamana1000
The literal translation of the verse 3.106 is 'A day (when) faces whiten and faces blacken' The 'Yusuf Ali' translation is ameliorated (as happens a lot) 'bright' has nothing to do with it.
Before Islam there was no association of dark with evil or light with good. 'Ethiopians' lived throughout Rome and Greece and regarded as complete equals. My people the Brits were white but preferred to darken themselves with wode - the term Brit comes from Greek for painted people.
DontBendOverForAllah 2 years ago
The translation of 3:106 I have reads "On the Day when some faces brighten and others darken..."
Light and Dark to represent good and evil is a prominent theme both in literature and other religions much before Islam eg Hinduism. The egyptians too had a similar duality with Horus(Sun God) and Seth (His nemesis from the dark underworld) Once again it must be noted that light and dark is not a reference to skin colour. The angels according to Islam are bright too because they are made of light.
kakamana1000 2 years ago
@kakamana1000
Congratulations you have been taqiyyad! Check out an earlier verse in the Sura 3.54, Bet your translation says something like 'Allah is the best planner/ schemer/ deviser' if it does I'll send you a (Islamic) source for a literal translation of the Quran.
The idea of dark equating to black is only very recent, remember the people who wrote the Quran didn't even realise that the Sun caused daylight. We only know white is caused by white light because we are post Newton.
DontBendOverForAllah 2 years ago
@DontBend...
The translated version I have says (3:54) "The [disbelievers] schemed but God also schemed; God is the Best of Schemers"
Its an Oxford World's Classics book and translated by M. A. S. Abdel Haleem.
kakamana1000 2 years ago
Yeah, but Islam condoning such behavior does not mean it does not happen. The early Islamic Empire into Africa was very much racist against dark-skinned Africans and even the White Europeans it came across...
mjconley12 2 years ago
@mjconley12
Your making a logical fallacy. There is no concept of discrimination based on race in Islam. Islam does not condone racism. If certain muslims have practiced it then its the individuals who should be held responsible and not the religion itself. Even if the answer to 'Have there been racist muslims' is a yes; the answer to 'Does Islam promote racism' is a definitive no. Hope you see the difference.
kakamana1000 2 years ago
Just like every other culture, the Muslims had to find a reason that the black Africans were being enslaved. Bernard Lewis writes that the enslavement of blacks and their export to the Mediterranean lands and the Middle East continued and was defended by the increasingly flimsy argument that blacks were idolators and thereforethe captives were legally liable to enslavement." I never said Islam promoted racism, only that like Christianity, it was used to justify certain aspects of slavery.
mjconley12 2 years ago
@mjconley12
If you did not imply that Islam promoted racism then we dont have any disagreement at all. That's the issue I was discussing with DontBendOverForAllah because he wrongly believes that the Quran condones racial discrimination. So when you replied I presumed you held a similar stance and were correlating the events of racism by muslims were motivated and endorsed by the religion itself.
kakamana1000 2 years ago
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hurma056 2 years ago
erm excuse me? muslims discriminate agianst dark skinned africans? lol i am what you call a 'dark skinned african' and i im also a proud muslim. so before u make ridiculous accusations, please ask the people you are referring to.
TheIslamicWarrior 2 years ago
I'm sure you are proud to be Muslim, but the Islamic Empire did discrimate against the black slaves in Africa. It's not a ridiculous accusation, it is fact. Just as the Christians used religion against the black slaves in the South, the Arab Muslims used Islam to justify the enslavement of black Africans...
mjconley12 2 years ago
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hurma056 2 years ago
@mjconley12 america war in somalia, tell me why why fuck u
king4barcelona 10 months ago
I agree bro.
ProudBlackMuslim22 2 years ago
lol, like half of Saudi Arabia are dark skinned Africans
ieee786 2 years ago
So?
mjconley12 2 years ago