Toronto has all of these, save for the traffic light behind the middle-of-street stop. There, all traffic must stop 2 metres short of the rearmost door of the tram, but often they don't, especially visitors. There is never a traffic light. Installing traffic lights, such as the one shown here, at these stops would help a lot, with minimal cost.
I looked through all my videos which were taken in Toronto in the hope that I might have some footage of a Toronto streetcar stop where people must walk out in to the road.
I only found one view, but it was from a distance and did not look good. Its a shame, but I could not fly to TO just for 30 seconds of video.
Likewise I could not travel to Melbourne, Australia where they face a similar issue and at some of them have changed the road layouts to improve safety.
@citytransportinfo I would think the majority of stops in Toronto are in the middle of the street. Only in larger streets or where there is enough space are there centre-island boarding areas. One mostly has to walk out to the car (or alight from it) hoping motorists approaching from behind come to a stop where they should. One often sees people standing right in the road waiting for a streetcar they see coming.
In Portland Oregon and Seattle the streetcar stops feature footpath protusions to create platforms alongside the tracks - typically this means that there are a few less parking spaces, and does not involve other moving traffic.
Sorry, I've not yet finished the film information... the first views come from Essen in Germany, the traffic signal and raised kerb views come from Basle in Switzerland.
same as ever - but they often also mount the footpath - so that pedestrians are still in danger.
I remember some years ago seeing in Fleetwood, Lancashire, where the traffic would pass the trams on the otherside. Of course this is what people do with buses too.
Toronto has all of these, save for the traffic light behind the middle-of-street stop. There, all traffic must stop 2 metres short of the rearmost door of the tram, but often they don't, especially visitors. There is never a traffic light. Installing traffic lights, such as the one shown here, at these stops would help a lot, with minimal cost.
kaizerzydeco 1 year ago
I looked through all my videos which were taken in Toronto in the hope that I might have some footage of a Toronto streetcar stop where people must walk out in to the road.
I only found one view, but it was from a distance and did not look good. Its a shame, but I could not fly to TO just for 30 seconds of video.
Likewise I could not travel to Melbourne, Australia where they face a similar issue and at some of them have changed the road layouts to improve safety.
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
@citytransportinfo I would think the majority of stops in Toronto are in the middle of the street. Only in larger streets or where there is enough space are there centre-island boarding areas. One mostly has to walk out to the car (or alight from it) hoping motorists approaching from behind come to a stop where they should. One often sees people standing right in the road waiting for a streetcar they see coming.
kaizerzydeco 1 year ago
@kaizerzydeco
In Portland Oregon and Seattle the streetcar stops feature footpath protusions to create platforms alongside the tracks - typically this means that there are a few less parking spaces, and does not involve other moving traffic.
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
@kaizerzydeco
This explains why I wanted to include a little of Toronto...
Simon
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
where is this?
bronzeonion 1 year ago
@bronzeonion
Sorry, I've not yet finished the film information... the first views come from Essen in Germany, the traffic signal and raised kerb views come from Basle in Switzerland.
Simon
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
wow...that is quite clever!
but what about drunk drivers?
CoachAlex1996 1 year ago
@CoachAlex1996
same as ever - but they often also mount the footpath - so that pedestrians are still in danger.
I remember some years ago seeing in Fleetwood, Lancashire, where the traffic would pass the trams on the otherside. Of course this is what people do with buses too.
Simon
citytransportinfo 1 year ago