Mr. President, I want only what you have, your medical plan, your full retirement after 4 years and you weekly salary for fucking the american people.
Republicans (00-08): YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT AND EVERYTHING HE DOES. IF YOU CALL HIM ON HIS LIES YOU HATE AMERICA! HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANT AND SPEND HOW HE WANTS! WHO CARES ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION!
Republicans: What!? A Democrat won? ...oh, well. FOUNDINGFATHERSCONSTITUTIONSOLICIASTMARXISTDEFICITHITLERCOMMUNISTDICTATOROBAMAMOSTLOSE
F*cking Republicans/Sudden (when a Democrat is in) "Constitutionalists". Just when you think they can't be anymore hypocritical...
@Marofifi Reagan didn't limit Government. He increased the size of it, doubled the deficit, and tripled the national debt. He was a puppet for big business. Nothing he did matched his rhetoric...
... and his damn health care bill won't be doing a thing to help the economy. There are so many damn holes in his plan that most will get poorer care over present policies and that excludes the rationing, the death squads, the long waits and folks in health care who wouldn't be there except for the fact that these are the only jobs available (& I won't credit idiot BHO for creating them either-- just the result of demographics. BHO = one big liar! (add as many other expletives as suits you)
AT&T Announces 1 Billion Dollar Loss from Obamacare in 1Q 2010 AT&T announced that it would take a 1,000,000,000 loss in 1Q 2010 because of Obamacare while also indicating it will substantially alter its employee benefit plans Gigantic telecommunications company AT&T announced just now that it will take a $1,000,000,000 loss in the first quarter of 2010 because of changes made to the health care laws by Obamacare. Additionally
@jacksonwaspedo Additionally, AT&T noted that the benefits packages are subject to substantial alternation in the next few weeks. AT&Ts announcement, on the heels of similar announcements by Caterpillar, John Deere, AK Steel and other large American companies, is more evidence of the negative economic effects from Obamacare. Reuters broke the story a half hour ago
I wounder how many American citizens were aware of the evil and deceit behind the new healthcare bill. This new bill made RFID microchip implantation law through the healthcare system. In 6 months time, All/any American citizens will be required to have an RFID microchip surgically implanted within thier bodies in order to use the healthcare system. Amazing!! I beleive we all need to come close to Jesus Christ and build a relationship with him, our saviour, and look to him for redemption.
My dog sleeps about 20 hours a day. He can eat whenever he wants, 24/7/365. His meals are provided at no cost to him. For this he pays nothing, and nothing is required of him. He lives in a nice neighborhood in a house he didn't have to pay for He goes to the doctor for free Someone else cleans up his mess. He receives these accommodations absolutely free. He has no expenses whatsoever. His costs are paid for by others who earn a living every day. Holy crap, my dog is a democrat!
Ize neebs YOU be PAY fo MY HELF CAYA NOW....jus start gibben up da money and paychecks to da man fo da HELF CAYA NOW....Ize neebs you to pay fo da helf caya man soze ize can git me som good doc wid da trippin scrips to hep git me off da cough syrup man you know what i mean...i know this dude that picks yo pocket an makes you think you like it man...now smile when i tole you dat man,.,.,it all be worf it man,,,all be worf it...
Forget it people. The bill is basically dead and anything anyone can get out of it will be peanuts. So much for sweeping health care. Nobody really cares, by example the way Mass voted which is a shocker. But I guess we shouldn't really be shocked. I mean it is the American way, right? Screw each other, to get ahead. That's the message I'm getting and the one's suffering the most are the one's without healthcare. Funny how people come to Haiti's rescue, but not their own.
Ha ha, all you naive idealistic young people who voted for Nobama will have to buy health care Ins or pay an annual 750.00 fine, there goes a good chunk of your disposable income to buy your xbox games, party money on the weekends, a better car, better Nikes, downloading lady gaga songs, extras for you ride, and money for your honey, hahaha
That is just false my friend. There are very heated arguments and opinions in what is happening politically in America, especially at the result of this election.
What entrenched culture you talking about? American Indian culture, which has been here for thousands of years? Or the one that was created with American Indian blood on it's hands? That culture? If you are white, then you are a descendant of Europe moron and your European culture is much, much older than your American culture. Get the facts straight asshole.
The health care reform bill, the way it is now will not work..it will bankrupt this country. Myself, I fall under the "pre-existing condition" claus, my son..is autistic...this is the part of health care that needs reformed. My vocal cord paralysis and reconstructed legs keep me from being eligible for insurance..and my son's autism keeps him from being able to benefit from "any" therapies or medicines that his autism might require. Fix health care..don't ruin it..it works..just needs reform.
The "death panels" and euthanasia claims about the health care bill have been widely debunked. This is a place for a factual discussion. Please provide credible evidence for your claim.
They aren't going to come out and say they are going to push it thru for Euthanasia and Abortion. Do you know what incrementalism is? As for credible evidence, what about the charge that doctors may get a stipend(a Government payment) from the Government for counseling on 'End-of-Life' care for the terminally ill? I.E., counseling to give you options on how you may wish to die(suicide counseling) so you do not become a burden to the State. Does that sound like Incremental Euthanasia to you?
No, it is NOT humane. It is EVIL. Murder in any form, i.e., Abortion, Euthanasia, "Mercy Killing", for the sake of someones' convenience is morally corrupt and wrong. If this was legitimate, then there wouldn't be such an outcry AGAINST it throughout the whole country. If we continue to embrace this culture of death in America, then how can we expect God to bless us??
Take a deep breath. Calm down. Nobody is proposing killing anyone. Truth is, at some point we're all going to die. Visiting a lawyer to make a will is end of life counseling. Visiting a priest when you have a terminal illness is end of life counseling. Pay attention to the facts instead of the fact-free rants that you hear on talk radio/TV. I'm sure you're smarter than that.
I didn't get this from the media. I figured it out on my own. End of life counseling for my legal things for property left behind, sure. End of life counseling for my Eternal Salvation in discussion with a priest, fine. But discussion about plans for the possible disposition of my life or others with the government using taxpayer money is akin to putting blood on my hands. Should the State in the future decides who lives and who dies? That's what we are deciding here. It is UNHOLY...
Then please share the source of your information because there are no death panels in the bill. There is no "mercy killing" in the bill. Without facts "I figured it out on my own" is the same as saying "That's the way I think it is, so it must be true." Again, we know you (and everyone else who reads this) is smarter than that.
You are not deciding this , don't be so paranoid, you pay taxes because thats what the state requires you to do, your not accountable for everything they do with your dollars, you know in your heart that this is wrong, there is no blood on your hands, the people who choose to die make that choice without you in the room, it's not your call, your not accountable for it, if you were we would no where all our tax dollars go, and how many of us know that in detail, nobody, you must be catholic!
Catholic and proud of it. And there are ALWAYS choices we make in life that affect others, for good or evil. Some people do not pause to think or hastily make a choice before mulling it over. That's how we can be decieved. God will judge us ALL as a nation on the choices we have made and will make now...
@Coullion43I admire your faith. However it's amazing to me that people such as yourself are still using the god card to solve or look down on issues. Although religion is not at all bad, people all too often use religion to discriminate against people who are different or believe and act differently. Ultimately it generates hate. No one can argue that. What our world needs is tolerance. With tolerance there can be peace.
Hey it's airhole again I agree with you on this topic about the euthanasia, but you know what man, we can't make laws that don't let people to make their own choices, that's communist, I know I lived in Romania for my first 15 years of my life, if sally wants to get rid of the baby inside of her it's her choice she will be accountable to god for her choices not to you or I, we can't make those laws, gay marriage, abortion,are all choices free people have, not up to us to decide through mans law.
" We can't make laws that don't let people to make their own choices, that's communist. If sally wants to get rid of the baby inside of her it's her choice. " It's too bad that unborn baby won't ever get the chance to make a choice...
Hey coullion43, hitler and stalin would have loved you!, you know it's funny how you right wing assholes compare obama to hitler, when really bush/cheney were the spitting image of hitler/stalin, attacking helpless country's for oil, scaring the public with their bullshit propaganda, putting you guys on High alert, just to keep your vote, so you feel safe under their wings of terror, then Obama comes along and tries to get the country some kind of health care , and he's hitler ?funny!
political videos should have comments disabled, i can't believe people actually spend the effort to write about a death panel - and it makes me wonder if they believe it truly. God help them if they do.
Until he starts speaking to the people, instead of performing in front of a teleprompter, I can't believe a word he says.
Along those lines, the Pelosi/Reid/Obama healthcare reform has too many problems. Instead of an overhaul, let's hire EXPERTS to fix key problems and issues a step at a time....
We all want reform. Just some of us would like reform that doesn't destroy the economy, eliminate freedoms and make citizen dependent on the government.
Interesting how If you disagree with Obama in policy, you are considered a racist . It is called the Politics of Personal Destruction, a tactic used by liberals and those on the left to demonize their opponents. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Mc Carthy would have loved it.
We should have a goal for providing some form of coverage for all individuals and Obama's new health care plan is a plan for the people. If his intentions were to be a communist than every private insurance agency would be wiped out as well as all of our rights.
what are they really doing to get health costs down in general and I'm not talking about insurance either. this is really not about insuring all individuals, it is really about the high cost of healthcare be they hospitals, treatments, or doctors offices. It also goes a lot further than that and somehow I don't think it is all getting addressed. They (govt) need to start getting immediate results now or face being voted out. Enough of the wtng game & it doesn't take years to implement policy.
cdia0812, providing coverage does not bring MEDICAL costs down. When govt. starts making it a mandatory requirement for citizens to maintain healthcare or be fined, then it is nothing but scam politics. Govt. has overstepped its bounds with any legislation that passes with that mandate language in it.
Here's one. Less Government, less spending. Less Taxes, more promotion of Capitalism. Banks and Car manufacturers back to their shareholders, instead of by the Government. The Federal Government has absolutely NO business in Health Care.
Obama is great a telling people what they want to hear.
Unfortunately it is a lie. His policies of stealing money from one group of people and giving it to another is criminal. He's using the environment, stimulus packages and healthcare as fronts to his Marxist policies.
i heard on npr that the liberals want to make pet expenses a tax deduction. it is so absurd to be a liberal anymore. they are actually proud of their thinking. well..what's next??? how many more entitlements can they burden the tax payer with?? the TRUTH is that America is broke and team obama can't print the money fast enough to pay for all the stuff people don't earn in the entitlements. news flash..there is no free lunch. of course the state run media will never say that. obamaflation
Obama is a great talker but it seems to me that the economic crisis is providing a diversion for these radical heatlh care changes to be passed. In normal times there would be more rebellion With the bail outs,the overseas wars and the soon to come healthcare costs the US tax bill is going to be horrendous.
thanks to the GOP wasting away, more like pissing away the prosperity of America, most young people have no choice but to go into the military. WAR is the most wasteful endeavor and war eats money more quickly than any other endeavor without a guarantee of pay back. All the younger minds that could go on to be scientists, engineers, perhaps something of value to society are now becoming soldiers to potentially have their prime years locked in a military service contract...a waste of intellect
Yes, but what is a country without a military? Also, with the idea of ethics, wouldn't a powerful nation like us want to help a smaller country in dismay. I mean, do we really want a repeat of WWII, where we waited out a horrible dictator until he attacked us instead? Anyway, that's my opinion. You're entitled to yours, but that's just my two cents.
liberal thinking is the standard of "no guarantee of payback." just a reminder...it is the blood of brave
Americans that gives you the right to say such sick and negative things about the military. the exploits of the great majority of our servicemen is an amazing testimony of loyalty, comitment, ethics, honor and bravery. sadly, you see our mlitary as weak, stupid and a waste of talent. i see them as people that have and will go on to become great in their goals and dreams
dalecampbl5 the military teaches you survival skills as well as other beneficial skills for life. Those that come out of the military do go on with their college already paid for and those that successfully stay in retire in 20 years and start their second jobs. It is not a waste of intellect like you are claiming.
obama got a nobel...this must have been the first time in nobel history the award was given to someone just for being different than the biggest embarassment in American political history (GWBUSH and his whole army of right wing nut heads)
But, golley don't the nominations have to be submitted by the 1 of Feb???? Wow the bamster was in office a whole 12 days before he was nominated for the award. What a joke. and furthermore it cheapens the award by such short-sightedness. I mean really, what had obama done in 12 days??? Doesn't Jay Rochefeller sit on the Nobel board????? hummmm.....i bet J. Wright was second in the voting......
you know, i agree obama didn't "do" much to deserve it...this award represents the world's disdain for the GOP and esp. G. W. Bush. I agree...that's about it. Cheapen the award? Perhaps. Turn Obama into a joke? Well, he didn't really ask for it or nominate himself or encourage someone to nominate him..so he's innocent...you can't stick it on him. So, bascially what's left is that it's a slap in the face of the GOP from the world.
FYI... I live in an evil socialist country where the rich pay 68 % tax and the poor 38%. We currently have 3.5 % unemployment..No homeless and free education, hospital and pension.
You have to learn that you have to pay taxes for a better society. The whole low taxes mantra is nothing but greed
BUT does that mean the rich pay 68% of their income taxes? i don' think so...our tax brackets aren't that high. even if the RICH pays 90% (which I don't believe) that would mean the swiss rich probably pays like 99%. But anyways, the middle class has shrunk so much now that they can't afford to pay taxes...NOT A GOOD SIGN for a DEMOCRACY. we are turning into an oligarchy with powerful rich corrupt overlords and you willingly want to be their slave...or perhaps you are the overlord.
Here we take great pride in paying our taxes, we understand the importance of a functioning society. I have lived also in America (LA) and there is no comparison. Here our children do not gun each other down at school, pedophiles do not kidnap and hide children as sex slaves. We look at social issues always trying to help people, not thinking about how much money we can make. Not many people here have mansions ala CRIBS but everyone has a roof over there heads and food in there stomach
4567894321 The medication you obviously can´t afford will soon be cheaper for you so these outbreaks will be greatly reduced. ( Do you ever have moments of clarity, when you realise how fucking crazy you really are! )
What you Americans need to do is pull your head out of your ass. You are looked down upon as lazy , fat , greedy and ignorant. You could not see that your President took what little respect the world had for you and flushed it down the toilet along with your economy.
Obama is spending alot of money only because every country in the world must now pay for American greed because of your failed banks. And all you talk about is tax cuts.
True, the democrats controlled Congress the last two years of the Bush Presidency. They easily could have voted to cut off funding for the Iraq war but instead chose not too. Obama has decided to follow the Bush plan and gradually decrease troop levels in Iraq, while ratcheting up the Afghanistan war.
Same plan but different President. Except Obama is viewed around the world as weak and indecisive. A push-over whose only solution to all problems is more govt spending and more govt involvement.
proportionally many more DEM senators voted NO on iraq than GOP senators vote Yes...in fact it was the GOP's war. and yes some DEM did vote for it. And I don't like'em for it. But one thing is clear, OBAMA didn't vote for it. DEMs aren't perfect...but they have right ideology...they reason...and by reasoning you identify the strength and the weakness of every position you take and its repercussions.
let's take the iraq war into perspective, it's cost over $1 trillion / 6-7 years...it yielded NOTHING. NADA. When Bush's was wasting our money in IRaq he got the cheers of his GOP croonies, and the cheers of all those middle class who voted for him...and now some of you (perhaps alot of you are unemployed). You guys couldn't see it coming could you? You couldn't see that there was no exit strategy? We allowed Bush's war becuz we lost our heads in our emotions. Gotta learn to not do that.
badger and twosculcata you both are either on drugs or you just trying to play the devils advocate or you really bought into this GOP crap. Where is Bush right now? If this isn't his fault why don't he his ugly monkey face and say "calm down everyone, mission accomplished!!!!" LOL ... he's in hiding after ruining this country he has no FACE to show up. NO ONE LIKES HIM...but it's not just him, it's all GOP because they don't do what they preach, because what they preach is impossible to do
you are right badger...delecamp is delusional. on this present course, the middle class will be destroyed by obama taxes and policies. libs make sound like the only people that got rich were repubs. the facts say 3-1 wall street gave to obama. libs will not be happpy until America is fully socialist and then fascist. it is not evil to make a product and then reap great rewards for it. libs just punish people for being successful and tax them to death so lazy folks can take whats not theirs
We progressives and we value a liberal education...you say "libs just want to punish people for being successful"...what you obviously have not mentioned is that successful can be ill-begotten...we don't want mortgagors having huge success loaning out money to those who can't afford to pay it back and then sell those mortgages backed securities back into the stock market for others to buy...do you know understand that successful begotten in that manner is not good for society in general??
what about when success is not ill-gotten as you have suggested? or is that possible to you? can a company have profits that are ok? who makes the lines in the sand? i say the public does. and let us not forget that it was clinton who gave us the "community redevelopment act in 1994" that made it possible and some would say a right to own a house that they could not afford. and how many dems voted for war in the iraq based on the intel that the world had???????
an educated public does...but once public universities go bankrupt, we're all f-ked.
sure there can be honest profit...but it's not honest profit that got us into this mess. honest profits don't get us into these kinds of hard to fix messes...wouldn't you agree? someone somewhere had to profit illicitly and now we are all paying for it.
mortgage backed securities was a fraud, and so are most insurance companies (not doctors, not physicians, not nurses) obama is a step in the right direction.
the GOP has really 2 policies...destroy the middle class wealth and destroy the middle class opportunities for education. without money or ideas the middle class becomes a poor slave class...easier to control...easier to manipulate...easier to not want democracy...when Bush wasted money he wasted tax payer...it wasn't an investment, it was a waste...and GOP was fine with it...but you tax insurance company..OH MY GOD, that's SOCIALISM, THAT'S NAZISM!! they scream...we cant' afford this party
Ignorance is bliss. You say the GOP is trying to destroy the middle class. Last I checked, both houses of congress as well as the oval office are housed by a large majority of democrats. They are for higher taxes, greater regulations. What do businesses do with their "evil profits?" They use it to expand the company and CREATE more jobs and maybe bonuses for MORE EMPLOYEES (yeah, that includes middle class).
Obama, on the other hand, wants to raise taxes to a crippling level. This will destroy busniess and enslave employees. What is a tax? If the government seizes 50% of your labor. That amount of work you use to produce for your family is seized only to be pissed away by government beurocrats- To Pelosi so she can fly her jet cross-country every week while the unemployment rises.
At least 7.1 millino people are out of work...you know what is keeping them from turning to crime? from perhaps rioting and causing real problems?!? that 475 dollars/week in gov't checks...the gov't never works when GOP is in control...they just let the private wealthy corporation do whatever the fuck they want...when DEM in control, they make the wealthy corporations behave. It's not like America hasn't had higher taxes before...in fact our taxes were higher in the 50-70s and USA was fine.
Taxes ARE slavery. Who are you kidding. But I suppose you wouldnt know that because you've never held a real job before. I guess it would be easier to be a greedy lazy lib like you to steal from someone else. See, we conservatives beleive in self reliance, liberty, and the pursuit of hapiness. What do you beleive in?
i've went to a top public school for engineering and i went to a top elite law school. and i'm employed...but w/this economy who the fuck knows. Everyone wants to be self-reliant but when you vote in politicians make sure they don't waste wealth...because when you waste wealth you'll place 17 million people out of work within 1 year (what you think they all of a sudden got fired for being lazy???)
you champion a party that has two main planks of abortion and homosexuality and you call republicans who are pro-life and pro- God's family from satan??? if bush is a financial criminal then obama is the king pin mobster. just look at the stimulus bill,,,with no debate...almost a trilion.....i look at pelosi, frank, reid and boxer to name a few and you call the rebpublican party is mentally retarded???? sir, you have no plumb line.
You know, Where were you Cricus freaks when bush spent all your money like some crazy teenage girl at shopping mall? huh? also Japan has a better system than you clowns will ever have.
how can you claim that bush was the big spender when obama has spent massive amounts more in the first six months? i completely agree that bush spent waaaay to much, especially as a republican. i mean really, it's obama that spends like no tomorrow. he can't print it fast enough. and soon enough there will be MASSIVE inflation.
Republicans are responsible for 9.3 trillion out of our 11 trillion dollar long term debt. You guys are a joke. You're only around because your criminal friends in the media help you stay afloat. That and you sell your souls to big business.
well stanz..that isa very interesting spin. you need to realize tht the media is bought and paid for by the left. it is really state run. talk about criminal...
because Bush's spending was a complete waste...Obama's spending was forced by the situation but at least it's an investment back into US economy....do we have trouble thinking two steps ahead, here??!?!
I'm an american and I'm not happy with the GOP...but don't bash us all the way, we are already humbled by our stupidity by voting in large numbers of Democrats...but it's not enough...we need to vote in even more progressives and liberals. I HATE THE GOP...they arent American...they are anti-democracy, anti-middle class, but a lot of us love them, and it shocks me as much as it does you.
Ahhh but then the question is, what's more important? Is it to make sure that the rich aren't getting there Band-Aids handed to them on silver platters, or that the poor are getting their lives saved?
i have a news flash for you... I guess you missed the complete economic collaps last year.. free market ideas are a dream in a corrupt business world. Free market economy is nothing but a disguise for the rich to steal a nations wealth. Wake up America, you are the only western world with a hopeless overprised healthcare. Obama is one of the first Presidents to understand you must take care of the people. The rich sure dont.
Has everyone seen what California's up to now? The state is in such economic dire straits (I wonder why....allowing millions of illegals to run wild and taxing companies to death until they leave, etc), that they're now considering lowering the tax rates on corporations and other business-luring incentives.......
No way! New idea?! Who would have ever though low taxes might actually attract more businesses and jobs to the state..... Even lib Cali must now understand low taxes have economic benefit. When will the oval office get the memo?
are fucken kiddoing, CA is fucked because we made it nearly impossible for the state legislature to raise taxes...and who implemented this scheme back in the 70s? a GOP.
lol, CA has overspent. dalecampbl5 you can't keep raising taxes and expect things to be alright and give govts. a blank check from the public. Govt. needs to be trimmed down and more efficient and stop wasting money on useless programs. Govt. seems to cause more dependency and the bigger problem with govt. at any level is that they tend not to allow people that have served their time behind bars a chance to enter society w/o restriction. Govt. hasn't got a clue anymore and that is just sad.
obama is spending in areas that will have huge payoffs in the very near future...bush spent in areas with no pay off and he didn't tax in areas that would have paid off...go figure!!!...obama's not an idiot, he's a very well respect person around the globe and he's incredibly analytical and rational...people like you are nothing but red hot dishonest vitriol spewing distractionists whose voice crowds out the voice of reason...but you shalln't succeed this time.
dalecampbl5: Obama is not that rational and not that smart.....he's employing old-school socialism, that has failed around the globe EVERY time....all those nations who supposedly "respect him" are nations in decline thanks to their wonderful economic ideas.... LOL
And yet the Scandanavian countries with there social welfare models offer a quality of life far superior to anything that America can offer. The people are also richer per capita, (and half as fat) The American government cant even balance their own budget. Not to mention that China owns you because of your huge debt. America can only offer the world war, the only business you have left. Obama will hopefully change that.. Otherwise the poor will rise up and
we gave the dems both houses of congress & the whitehouse to implement reform- there is no reform without the public option, costs will continue to rise, tens of millions uncovered or undercovered, healthcare will still be the leading cause of bankruptcies- over 70% of dems support the public option, even higher with the young voter, we need baucus & the rest of the 'blue dogs' to know we will make sure they are not in congress in 2011 if they continue to sell out & oppose the public option
your socialist attempts are failing....the dummies in the middle, who pulled the lever for "change," that great mystical and undefined change, are seeing the error of their ways.....
dem piss me off...ram it through, try for the 60, if not vote again...keep doing it...GOP will never allow public option...not a single one of them...screw...DEM piss me off becuz they are wussies, i swear!!!
The Dems are not being wussies. Hell, they have the audacity to call their own constituents racicists and undermine the fact the majority of americans reject this bill. If the House had the votes to pass it, they would do it today. Fact of the matter is, they DO NOT. So they will continue to lie and hide their plans from the public (yeah, real transparent), 2010 can't come soon enough. Dems know that. That is why they have been TRYING to "ram it through"
We have no more money for any type of universal health care, period. Thank you to the last twenty presidents, who spent a lot more than we took in....especially Bush and Obama.....disgraces!
don't you dare lump obama in with Bush...first obama has had 8 month of presidency, Bush had 8 and 6 of those years he had the goddamn congress...don't be trying ot mix red with blue to get green...don't work that way...universal health care money will come from taxes...who do we tax? rich individuals and rich corporations...i don't want this country to end up like plutonomy...people are entitlted to their wealth, but reality is the TOO wealthy can use their wealth to destroy my livelihood
The majority of Americans reject this far-left health bill being pushed by the Progressive democrats. It's even too radical for most democrats.
Raiding Medicare, threatening people with jail time if they don't purchase health insurance and taxing everything is not going to fly with the American public.
SocialistDemokrat, you are right. Most Americans are speaking up and opposing this terrible health care idea...Obama is a sneak...he won't cover illegals in the bill, cuz he knows he'll move to make them legals soon....sneak!
dalecampbl5....wishful thinking....more Americans than ever oppose Obama's health care plan...Rasmussen poll....we can't afford any more socialism....Bush and now this idiot, Obama, have spent us dry
it's not socialism...it's rationalism...we need more rationalism...invest in areas that pay off and use taxes to shift that money...it's not socialism, it's optimism. just because you slap a label on it, doesn't mean it's true.
IF an area is profitable, taxes are not needed for it because it would be self-sustainable. Isnt there a word for it? Free market maybe? Dare I say it.... Capitalism?
LOL: Socialism rationalism? Yeah, East Germany and the Soviet Union had real rational economies. I wonder why people risked being shot to jump the Berlin wall into "Evil Capitalist West Germany"
badger5566: you're making too much sense in here today....these liberals won't know what to do with themselves....lol....all they've known is that big tit in the sky that takes care of everything from cradle to grave....LOLOL
how in the world did a health care reform speech turn into a debate about homosexuality and God?
but anyways Obama seems really legit in terms of laying down an actual plan to help cut back on deficts and bring about real changes to the Health care Issue. In addition, I believe that the idea of changing insurance companies to a free market will really help increase competition n is the correct path to cut back on costs. lets just hope this plan gets implemented asap =)
Except he has no intention of "changing insurance companies to a free market." As a matter of fact, it is the opposite. The ultimate goal is a single payer system.
Obama to me, represents not only hope, but he's just the beginning. we must move away from conservatism, any "faith" based lack of factual analysis advocating party must be thrown out. we need rationalism. we need analysis of everything, of course for good purposes, for purposes beneficial to all humanity. religion and monarchies and oligarchies have set societies back enough, ruined them; but scientists like einstein, darwin, newton, maxwell, watson and crick are the true messiahs 4 us.
obama to me represents despair. mark my words...America will fall under his ideas. recently my 8th grade daughter had to watch a movie called "sizzle" in her SCIENCE class. a homosexual couple presents GLOBAL WARMING along with cursing, God's name in vain, many sexual comments, many more sexual comments to what end???? just another state run agenda to make being gay ok. fyi...it backfired. all it takes is for one to inform others about the truth.
Well let me ask you this. What "factual analysis" do you have to support socialism and successful economies under bloated centralized governments. Was it Soviet Russia? Did East Germany fare better than West Germany? You decide. On the other hand, there is a direct coorelation between free market, low taxes, and economic prosperity (these are conservative principles). Our country is a perfect example of that. Compare Michigan (unions, taxes) to Texas (few unions, low taxes)- compare employment.
where have you been the last year?our 'free market' system, aka big biz race to the bottom, had to be bailed out by our government, how many times does our gov have to bail out 'free market' industries, remember the airlines? deregulation gave the fat cats a green light to rape our financial system, those billions upon billions didnt all just disappear-& as for your socialism doesnt work argument, who are we borrowing the money from? china,a socialist country thats buying up the worlds resources
aztecdogface: first of all, in most of the instances, it was government interference in the first place that caused the problems (such as big brother pressuring banks to make loans to unqualified minorities)...and i'm against any government bailouts....they should stand or fall on their own....so go smoke that, commie
government intervention is mostly responsible for the collapse in the first place. Legislation to force banks to give out bad loans via sub-prime morgages was a huge mistake. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (also gov entities) prolonged the problem and made things worse. Second, I opposed both Bushes TARP and Obama's phoney stimulus right from the beginning. See, that is not free market. That is croney capitalism. There is a difference.
evictor, i think you missed the point. my point is simply God created all and is the author of diversity and creation. man has taken what God has created and made it into peversity. ie...God's plan for relationship is a man and a woman. man's perversity is man and a man etc.. God's plan is sex only in the marriage relationship. man's perversity is sex before marriage and outside of marriage. aids will never be a problem for me. only for those who engage in acts outside of God's will.
he's just not getting too many claps here is he? And he's really not liking the lack of support as opposed to when he was a public activist. Ooooh the majority of America just doesn't like him, Acorn, and his wife's statements....
What's all of this talk Obama does about single cases he's chosen to pick out for his continuous speeches? This is as bad as when Pelosi tried to explain how y 500 million Americans will lose their jobs when there's only 305 million folks IN the USA. THESE are the lying people we have to deal with. Hey Bam Bam, try governing instead of making ridiculous speeches and being a TV star! Even your complicit l wing networks look at their watches wondering whem you'll finally
with selective faith, we ignore the hard part of being christian, the selfless part...why is it hard? because genetically we're selfish...we cannot afford to just help someone else without payback...at least not to the level christ wishes us to do...the bible is anti-human nature, no doubt, but depending on how you
view it, its truth or lies. I think it's lies because of its anti-human nature teachings...if anything the Bible teaches communism...everyone is the same, rich gives to poor. etc.
i help people all the time without any payback. why is tht so hard to understand. sadly, you don't know what the Bible teaches. it is not selective be against homosexuality and abortion..because God is. love what God loves and hate what God hates. mercy triumphs over judgement.
you don't know what homosexuality really is...a male gets two doses of testosterone when he is conceived...once in the uterus of his mother, the second time during puberty as his testes grow. Males who don't get the right amount of testosterone in the mother's uterus have a high chance of becoming homosexual. studies and studies and studies have been done to affirm this ... religious people can deny this...you can say being gay is choice or a sin or both. whatever....(to be continued)
when we don't know the real reason for things we can make up stories...and we've been making stories up for the majority of our 'history'. but the time for that is over due to insane and vast scientific advancements. there's no difference between islam, christianity, judaism, or even greek mythology...don't ever contriubute your human nature to some sort of religious indoctrination.
i will guarantee you that there is a world of difference between the god of islam and the God of christianity. you suffer from terminal liberalism and the anything goes and all truth is relative world view. God is God and will always be God no matter what you think or say. it's your choice to align with the world's perverted way of thinking. choose this day whom you will serve....
the problem for you is that i know exactly what homosexuality is. God made it very clear who we are and why we were created. all you are really saying is that God made a mistake when he created us. it is no problem to find the next author to say what you want with all the psycho-babble that the world has to dish out. nevertheless God will not be mocked. God created diversity...man created perversity.
look my friend, all I'm trying to point out is men have done a lot of wrong, harmful and "bad" choices in the name of religion. is science everything? science is what we live in...i dunno if there is a "god" or not, but i know science is there..so why not trust what is in front of you instead of putting beliefs in faith...faith is what gets people in trouble more often not...it's better to understand the laws behind things man...I'm trying to sound pretentious at all here either.
religion makes people do crazy things...it's not the only thing that makes people go crazy..people can become devout in just about any type of funky religion...it's good to have hope and faith too...that's why religion won't go away....but if we were all hard core scientists (and I'm not) we all recognize that there is SO much we don't know and should not jump to conclusions or at least try to find out about things. We should be seekers of truth and hopefully contribute to the human welfare.
i do appreciate the kindness in which you replied after all these times. thank you. sadly there are only a handful of churches that really re-pre-sent God in a real and powerful way. this why the term hypocrite is so generally used and rightly so for the western church. but know this...God is real;. Jesus is real. and from my view it is not funky or crazy. i have tasted and will never go back.
I am an Atheist and I am not gay. I do not discriminate between gays, straights or any other kind of person. Imagine that, a world where we can all be equal for a change. What I've noticed, is many religious people discriminate against gay people, have you forgotten that they are humans too? Your religious beliefs have taught you to hate, and think bad of people who do not share your beliefs, at this point you are no longer a person, you are a monster. It's a shame you're so blinded.
it's pointless to hate gays because anyone giving the right dosage of hormonal treat in the uterus can increase the likelihood of them being gay...it's just inane to fight over these things...for the most part, nature will create mostly heterosexual men to propagate the species. Let's not waste time and energy fighting over those who won't procreate anyways and pass on their gay genes..what the fucken point right? waste of time and money. we got more important social issues to deal with TODAY
i don't hate the homosexual i hate homosexuality. note, there is a huge difference. i hate the sin, not the person. AND SO DOES GOD... really not blind at all. and may i say for anyone who knows me they would say not a mean bone in my body. i have hugged and prayed for the gay and said to them just as i have said to you. and guess what they don't think i hate them as a person either. maybe it's your heart that needs attention????
i want you to prove that God hates homosexuality? do you have any proof besides biblical text that god hates homosexuality and it can't be some skin heads beating up gays, thats one man's hatred towards another...but what about god hating gays? hm?
the only proof that i need and there is is God's Word. i completely agree, skinheads are not christian and not of God and the same for the kkk. God hates sin. homosexuality is a sin. God loves the person. the homosexual is a person. i find no difference between the person that slanders and gossips etc...as to the homosexual...it is all against God's will.
so you've read God's word...but you have never actually heard it from God have you?
one other thing, God allowed the kings of Israel to have 100s if not 1000s of wives/concubines..you cool w/that too? do you despise the fact that Bill Clinton got a blow job from Monica Lewinski? It's all selective faith, my friend.
again you have no clue about God and His Word. please note there is a great difference between God's perfect will and His permissive will. there is a difference between the old testament and the new. between the law and grace. all you want to do is mock God..or so it seems. your god seems to be the world, science and the like...good luck...........
science has saved ur ass...if you were born in the European dark ages, first you'd probably be lucky if you even had a wife, since monarchies had all the fertile women as servants...second you'd be a poor peasant, third u'd be lucky to live til 30, if disease or wars didn't get to you first...science gave us protection, cures, and finally freed us from faith based thinking, it gave you extended life, a family, and the leisure time to think about things .. like God...u need to pray to science
What an ass.
bocanutz 2 days ago
Mr. President, I want only what you have, your medical plan, your full retirement after 4 years and you weekly salary for fucking the american people.
pieword 8 months ago
Republicans (00-08): YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT AND EVERYTHING HE DOES. IF YOU CALL HIM ON HIS LIES YOU HATE AMERICA! HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANT AND SPEND HOW HE WANTS! WHO CARES ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION!
Republicans: What!? A Democrat won? ...oh, well. FOUNDINGFATHERSCONSTITUTIONSOLICIASTMARXISTDEFICITHITLERCOMMUNISTDICTATOROBAMAMOSTLOSE
F*cking Republicans/Sudden (when a Democrat is in) "Constitutionalists". Just when you think they can't be anymore hypocritical...
RavenMichaels 1 year ago
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OBAMA SHOULD BE REMOVED NOWWWWWWWWWWW he is destroying america
dreamermex1 1 year ago
“Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” - George Washington
“I own that I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.” – Thomas Jefferson
“Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves.” – Abraham Lincoln
“Man is not free unless government is limited.” – Ronald Reagan
“You know, I actually believe my own bull____.” – Clueless Comrade Barry
Marofifi 1 year ago
@Marofifi Reagan didn't limit Government. He increased the size of it, doubled the deficit, and tripled the national debt. He was a puppet for big business. Nothing he did matched his rhetoric...
RavenMichaels 1 year ago
“Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” - George Washington
“I own that I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.” – Thomas Jefferson
“Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves.” – Abraham Lincoln
“Man is not free unless government is limited.” – Ronald Reagan
“You know, I actually believe my own bull____.” – Clueless Comrade Barry
Marofifi 1 year ago
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willhas1 1 year ago
... and his damn health care bill won't be doing a thing to help the economy. There are so many damn holes in his plan that most will get poorer care over present policies and that excludes the rationing, the death squads, the long waits and folks in health care who wouldn't be there except for the fact that these are the only jobs available (& I won't credit idiot BHO for creating them either-- just the result of demographics. BHO = one big liar! (add as many other expletives as suits you)
jethess 1 year ago
fuck you all bunch of fucks
yourallstoopid 1 year ago
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jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
@jacksonwaspedo Additionally, AT&T noted that the benefits packages are subject to substantial alternation in the next few weeks. AT&Ts announcement, on the heels of similar announcements by Caterpillar, John Deere, AK Steel and other large American companies, is more evidence of the negative economic effects from Obamacare. Reuters broke the story a half hour ago
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
0bama's Health Care Attempt.... Will it help America's residents? US opinions must be spoken! Goto my channel page and learn how!
Wilone328 1 year ago
Bend over and I don't mean for an exam
circusmaximus10 1 year ago
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I wounder how many American citizens were aware of the evil and deceit behind the new healthcare bill. This new bill made RFID microchip implantation law through the healthcare system. In 6 months time, All/any American citizens will be required to have an RFID microchip surgically implanted within thier bodies in order to use the healthcare system. Amazing!! I beleive we all need to come close to Jesus Christ and build a relationship with him, our saviour, and look to him for redemption.
BabylonFading2012 1 year ago
Time to consider impeachment.
AtlasObjectivist 1 year ago
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trishgrv 1 year ago
Ize neebs YOU be PAY fo MY HELF CAYA NOW....jus start gibben up da money and paychecks to da man fo da HELF CAYA NOW....Ize neebs you to pay fo da helf caya man soze ize can git me som good doc wid da trippin scrips to hep git me off da cough syrup man you know what i mean...i know this dude that picks yo pocket an makes you think you like it man...now smile when i tole you dat man,.,.,it all be worf it man,,,all be worf it...
hadenufnow 2 years ago
You're sort of an idiot, aren't you?
Youngmantime 1 year ago
The man has only been in office for a year give him a break.
brittanygg21 2 years ago
Forget it people. The bill is basically dead and anything anyone can get out of it will be peanuts. So much for sweeping health care. Nobody really cares, by example the way Mass voted which is a shocker. But I guess we shouldn't really be shocked. I mean it is the American way, right? Screw each other, to get ahead. That's the message I'm getting and the one's suffering the most are the one's without healthcare. Funny how people come to Haiti's rescue, but not their own.
ImOfNope 2 years ago
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Ha ha, all you naive idealistic young people who voted for Nobama will have to buy health care Ins or pay an annual 750.00 fine, there goes a good chunk of your disposable income to buy your xbox games, party money on the weekends, a better car, better Nikes, downloading lady gaga songs, extras for you ride, and money for your honey, hahaha
dn14789 2 years ago
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ERROLCUSTERFLYNN4EVR 2 years ago
@ERROLCUSTERFLYNN4EVR .....OBAMA IS CONFERRING WITH EUGENICS MEDICS THAT HAVE SINISTER PLANS RIGHT OUT OF THE HITLER PURIFICIATION EMMANUAL.
ERROLCUSTERFLYNN4EVR 3 months ago
why does this have so few views? as an american, i believe that it is shameful how quickly americans lose interest in politics after an election.
laura02556 2 years ago 2
That is just false my friend. There are very heated arguments and opinions in what is happening politically in America, especially at the result of this election.
Goodatconnect4 1 year ago
Yeah, why would a foreigner waste time on a USA site touting reform to us when we are the ones in the US..?
Our history is rich.....Our Constitutional Principles are Entrenched in our culture..
We'll take care of our misguided folks here thank you..
Fix your own country...
I wouldn't trade for anything...
See ya wouldn't wanna be ya..
hadenufnow 2 years ago
What entrenched culture you talking about? American Indian culture, which has been here for thousands of years? Or the one that was created with American Indian blood on it's hands? That culture? If you are white, then you are a descendant of Europe moron and your European culture is much, much older than your American culture. Get the facts straight asshole.
ImOfNope 2 years ago
If it wouldn't be for Free America , none of you liberal foreigners would be able to post your venomous rants against the USA on YouTube.
Coullion43 2 years ago
Oh well, it's time to just kill capitalism anyways. It just doesn't work.
DrDaveHardy 2 years ago
The health care reform bill, the way it is now will not work..it will bankrupt this country. Myself, I fall under the "pre-existing condition" claus, my son..is autistic...this is the part of health care that needs reformed. My vocal cord paralysis and reconstructed legs keep me from being eligible for insurance..and my son's autism keeps him from being able to benefit from "any" therapies or medicines that his autism might require. Fix health care..don't ruin it..it works..just needs reform.
Unclereeky 2 years ago
Contact your Senators and tell them to KILL THE BILL. Abortion and Euthanasia should not be funded more by our tax dollars...
Coullion43 2 years ago
The "death panels" and euthanasia claims about the health care bill have been widely debunked. This is a place for a factual discussion. Please provide credible evidence for your claim.
UpTakeVideo 2 years ago
They aren't going to come out and say they are going to push it thru for Euthanasia and Abortion. Do you know what incrementalism is? As for credible evidence, what about the charge that doctors may get a stipend(a Government payment) from the Government for counseling on 'End-of-Life' care for the terminally ill? I.E., counseling to give you options on how you may wish to die(suicide counseling) so you do not become a burden to the State. Does that sound like Incremental Euthanasia to you?
Coullion43 2 years ago
Many insurance companies already pay for end of life counseling. Is that corporate euthanasia? No. It's humane. Please get over it.
UpTakeVideo 2 years ago
No, it is NOT humane. It is EVIL. Murder in any form, i.e., Abortion, Euthanasia, "Mercy Killing", for the sake of someones' convenience is morally corrupt and wrong. If this was legitimate, then there wouldn't be such an outcry AGAINST it throughout the whole country. If we continue to embrace this culture of death in America, then how can we expect God to bless us??
Coullion43 2 years ago
Take a deep breath. Calm down. Nobody is proposing killing anyone. Truth is, at some point we're all going to die. Visiting a lawyer to make a will is end of life counseling. Visiting a priest when you have a terminal illness is end of life counseling. Pay attention to the facts instead of the fact-free rants that you hear on talk radio/TV. I'm sure you're smarter than that.
UpTakeVideo 2 years ago
I didn't get this from the media. I figured it out on my own. End of life counseling for my legal things for property left behind, sure. End of life counseling for my Eternal Salvation in discussion with a priest, fine. But discussion about plans for the possible disposition of my life or others with the government using taxpayer money is akin to putting blood on my hands. Should the State in the future decides who lives and who dies? That's what we are deciding here. It is UNHOLY...
Coullion43 2 years ago
Then please share the source of your information because there are no death panels in the bill. There is no "mercy killing" in the bill. Without facts "I figured it out on my own" is the same as saying "That's the way I think it is, so it must be true." Again, we know you (and everyone else who reads this) is smarter than that.
UpTakeVideo 2 years ago
You are not deciding this , don't be so paranoid, you pay taxes because thats what the state requires you to do, your not accountable for everything they do with your dollars, you know in your heart that this is wrong, there is no blood on your hands, the people who choose to die make that choice without you in the room, it's not your call, your not accountable for it, if you were we would no where all our tax dollars go, and how many of us know that in detail, nobody, you must be catholic!
airholeahole1 2 years ago
Catholic and proud of it. And there are ALWAYS choices we make in life that affect others, for good or evil. Some people do not pause to think or hastily make a choice before mulling it over. That's how we can be decieved. God will judge us ALL as a nation on the choices we have made and will make now...
Coullion43 2 years ago
@Coullion43I admire your faith. However it's amazing to me that people such as yourself are still using the god card to solve or look down on issues. Although religion is not at all bad, people all too often use religion to discriminate against people who are different or believe and act differently. Ultimately it generates hate. No one can argue that. What our world needs is tolerance. With tolerance there can be peace.
willhas1 1 year ago
Hey it's airhole again I agree with you on this topic about the euthanasia, but you know what man, we can't make laws that don't let people to make their own choices, that's communist, I know I lived in Romania for my first 15 years of my life, if sally wants to get rid of the baby inside of her it's her choice she will be accountable to god for her choices not to you or I, we can't make those laws, gay marriage, abortion,are all choices free people have, not up to us to decide through mans law.
airholeahole1 2 years ago
" We can't make laws that don't let people to make their own choices, that's communist. If sally wants to get rid of the baby inside of her it's her choice. " It's too bad that unborn baby won't ever get the chance to make a choice...
Coullion43 2 years ago
Hey coullion43, hitler and stalin would have loved you!, you know it's funny how you right wing assholes compare obama to hitler, when really bush/cheney were the spitting image of hitler/stalin, attacking helpless country's for oil, scaring the public with their bullshit propaganda, putting you guys on High alert, just to keep your vote, so you feel safe under their wings of terror, then Obama comes along and tries to get the country some kind of health care , and he's hitler ?funny!
airholeahole1 2 years ago
political videos should have comments disabled, i can't believe people actually spend the effort to write about a death panel - and it makes me wonder if they believe it truly. God help them if they do.
skazdd 2 years ago
what are you talking about thats called freedom of speech duh
pezro123 2 years ago
Until he starts speaking to the people, instead of performing in front of a teleprompter, I can't believe a word he says.
Along those lines, the Pelosi/Reid/Obama healthcare reform has too many problems. Instead of an overhaul, let's hire EXPERTS to fix key problems and issues a step at a time....
We all want reform. Just some of us would like reform that doesn't destroy the economy, eliminate freedoms and make citizen dependent on the government.
designtoad 2 years ago
you'll never believe him, because your a fuckin racist!
airholeahole1 2 years ago
Interesting how If you disagree with Obama in policy, you are considered a racist . It is called the Politics of Personal Destruction, a tactic used by liberals and those on the left to demonize their opponents. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Mc Carthy would have loved it.
Coullion43 2 years ago
racist? That weak liberal lie is getting old.
designtoad 2 years ago
We should have a goal for providing some form of coverage for all individuals and Obama's new health care plan is a plan for the people. If his intentions were to be a communist than every private insurance agency would be wiped out as well as all of our rights.
cdia0812 2 years ago
what are they really doing to get health costs down in general and I'm not talking about insurance either. this is really not about insuring all individuals, it is really about the high cost of healthcare be they hospitals, treatments, or doctors offices. It also goes a lot further than that and somehow I don't think it is all getting addressed. They (govt) need to start getting immediate results now or face being voted out. Enough of the wtng game & it doesn't take years to implement policy.
shaithis45 2 years ago
cdia0812, providing coverage does not bring MEDICAL costs down. When govt. starts making it a mandatory requirement for citizens to maintain healthcare or be fined, then it is nothing but scam politics. Govt. has overstepped its bounds with any legislation that passes with that mandate language in it.
shaithis45 2 years ago
Here's one. Less Government, less spending. Less Taxes, more promotion of Capitalism. Banks and Car manufacturers back to their shareholders, instead of by the Government. The Federal Government has absolutely NO business in Health Care.
Coullion43 2 years ago 2
i believe obama is trying to make our country a socialist and maybe even comunist
terroristpie 2 years ago
i believe your a dumb brainwashed fuckin idiot, learn to spell dumbass!
airholeahole1 2 years ago
Obama is great a telling people what they want to hear.
Unfortunately it is a lie. His policies of stealing money from one group of people and giving it to another is criminal. He's using the environment, stimulus packages and healthcare as fronts to his Marxist policies.
designtoad 2 years ago
i heard on npr that the liberals want to make pet expenses a tax deduction. it is so absurd to be a liberal anymore. they are actually proud of their thinking. well..what's next??? how many more entitlements can they burden the tax payer with?? the TRUTH is that America is broke and team obama can't print the money fast enough to pay for all the stuff people don't earn in the entitlements. news flash..there is no free lunch. of course the state run media will never say that. obamaflation
twosulcata 2 years ago
Obama is a great talker but it seems to me that the economic crisis is providing a diversion for these radical heatlh care changes to be passed. In normal times there would be more rebellion With the bail outs,the overseas wars and the soon to come healthcare costs the US tax bill is going to be horrendous.
idatomhue 2 years ago
thanks to the GOP wasting away, more like pissing away the prosperity of America, most young people have no choice but to go into the military. WAR is the most wasteful endeavor and war eats money more quickly than any other endeavor without a guarantee of pay back. All the younger minds that could go on to be scientists, engineers, perhaps something of value to society are now becoming soldiers to potentially have their prime years locked in a military service contract...a waste of intellect
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
Yes, but what is a country without a military? Also, with the idea of ethics, wouldn't a powerful nation like us want to help a smaller country in dismay. I mean, do we really want a repeat of WWII, where we waited out a horrible dictator until he attacked us instead? Anyway, that's my opinion. You're entitled to yours, but that's just my two cents.
RexImpetus15 2 years ago
liberal thinking is the standard of "no guarantee of payback." just a reminder...it is the blood of brave
Americans that gives you the right to say such sick and negative things about the military. the exploits of the great majority of our servicemen is an amazing testimony of loyalty, comitment, ethics, honor and bravery. sadly, you see our mlitary as weak, stupid and a waste of talent. i see them as people that have and will go on to become great in their goals and dreams
twosulcata 2 years ago
dalecampbl5 the military teaches you survival skills as well as other beneficial skills for life. Those that come out of the military do go on with their college already paid for and those that successfully stay in retire in 20 years and start their second jobs. It is not a waste of intellect like you are claiming.
shaithis45 2 years ago
u talking to me?
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
obama got a nobel...this must have been the first time in nobel history the award was given to someone just for being different than the biggest embarassment in American political history (GWBUSH and his whole army of right wing nut heads)
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
But, golley don't the nominations have to be submitted by the 1 of Feb???? Wow the bamster was in office a whole 12 days before he was nominated for the award. What a joke. and furthermore it cheapens the award by such short-sightedness. I mean really, what had obama done in 12 days??? Doesn't Jay Rochefeller sit on the Nobel board????? hummmm.....i bet J. Wright was second in the voting......
twosulcata 2 years ago
you know, i agree obama didn't "do" much to deserve it...this award represents the world's disdain for the GOP and esp. G. W. Bush. I agree...that's about it. Cheapen the award? Perhaps. Turn Obama into a joke? Well, he didn't really ask for it or nominate himself or encourage someone to nominate him..so he's innocent...you can't stick it on him. So, bascially what's left is that it's a slap in the face of the GOP from the world.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
The USA has been taken over by a group of corrupt Socialist thugs that are trying to destroy all Individual freedoms.
kvjhedfbv 2 years ago
FYI... I live in an evil socialist country where the rich pay 68 % tax and the poor 38%. We currently have 3.5 % unemployment..No homeless and free education, hospital and pension.
You have to learn that you have to pay taxes for a better society. The whole low taxes mantra is nothing but greed
crlhow 2 years ago
In the USA, the rich pay 90% of income taxes and half of Americans do not pay income taxes.
kvjhedfbv 2 years ago
BUT does that mean the rich pay 68% of their income taxes? i don' think so...our tax brackets aren't that high. even if the RICH pays 90% (which I don't believe) that would mean the swiss rich probably pays like 99%. But anyways, the middle class has shrunk so much now that they can't afford to pay taxes...NOT A GOOD SIGN for a DEMOCRACY. we are turning into an oligarchy with powerful rich corrupt overlords and you willingly want to be their slave...or perhaps you are the overlord.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
Democracy is NOT an economic system. lol
Obama is the most corrupt person in the world.
kvjhedfbv 2 years ago
kvjhedfbv. you are truly clueless..... This whole economic talk is way beyond you... The truth is you are just a racist...
Why has your country failed to move pass this point???
crlhow 2 years ago
Here we take great pride in paying our taxes, we understand the importance of a functioning society. I have lived also in America (LA) and there is no comparison. Here our children do not gun each other down at school, pedophiles do not kidnap and hide children as sex slaves. We look at social issues always trying to help people, not thinking about how much money we can make. Not many people here have mansions ala CRIBS but everyone has a roof over there heads and food in there stomach
crlhow 2 years ago
CRLHOW OBAMAS THREE POINT SYSTEM ON HEALTHCARE
l MILLIONS LINE UP FOR THE HINI FLU SHOT IN THE ASS
2 PREGNANT WOMEN GIVING BIRTH TO DISGRUNTLED PIGS...OINK OINK 3 HUMAN POPULATION METOMORPHING INTO MOTHS ,WITH TWO OR THREE ARMS, LIMBS, HEADS
YES, OBAMA ASKED FOR CHANGE AND HE
ALWAYS KEEPS HIS WORD HAPPY HALLOWEEN
4567894321 2 years ago
4567894321 The medication you obviously can´t afford will soon be cheaper for you so these outbreaks will be greatly reduced. ( Do you ever have moments of clarity, when you realise how fucking crazy you really are! )
crlhow 2 years ago
What you Americans need to do is pull your head out of your ass. You are looked down upon as lazy , fat , greedy and ignorant. You could not see that your President took what little respect the world had for you and flushed it down the toilet along with your economy.
Obama is spending alot of money only because every country in the world must now pay for American greed because of your failed banks. And all you talk about is tax cuts.
crlhow 2 years ago
1. Obama is hated in the US and around the world because the educated know he can not tell the truth!
2. Obama is spending money to crush Capitalism in America. We all know it and he is hated!
kvjhedfbv 2 years ago
my head is already out of my ass =)
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
True, the democrats controlled Congress the last two years of the Bush Presidency. They easily could have voted to cut off funding for the Iraq war but instead chose not too. Obama has decided to follow the Bush plan and gradually decrease troop levels in Iraq, while ratcheting up the Afghanistan war.
Same plan but different President. Except Obama is viewed around the world as weak and indecisive. A push-over whose only solution to all problems is more govt spending and more govt involvement.
SocialistDemokrat 2 years ago
proportionally many more DEM senators voted NO on iraq than GOP senators vote Yes...in fact it was the GOP's war. and yes some DEM did vote for it. And I don't like'em for it. But one thing is clear, OBAMA didn't vote for it. DEMs aren't perfect...but they have right ideology...they reason...and by reasoning you identify the strength and the weakness of every position you take and its repercussions.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
Democrats controlled Congress for two years and could have cut off funding at any moment...end of war!
Harry Reid and Pelosi refused to end the war.
Now, Obama refuses to end the war and Democrats still blame Bush? Hahahahaha
kvjhedfbv 2 years ago
But Bush and the GOP could've ended the war too...infact wasn't Mission Accomplished like 6 month into the war? Where did they all go?
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
Bush ended UN genocide in Iraq, Obama, Pelosi and Reid are getting rich from the Blackwater and Halliburton contracts.
kvjhedfbv 2 years ago
i don't think so. good luck trying to re-write history buddy.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
Obama is trying to re write history by destroying quality healthcare in the USA.
Obama is going down as the worst President in history.
kvjhedfbv 2 years ago
ur a comedian, bud
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
let's take the iraq war into perspective, it's cost over $1 trillion / 6-7 years...it yielded NOTHING. NADA. When Bush's was wasting our money in IRaq he got the cheers of his GOP croonies, and the cheers of all those middle class who voted for him...and now some of you (perhaps alot of you are unemployed). You guys couldn't see it coming could you? You couldn't see that there was no exit strategy? We allowed Bush's war becuz we lost our heads in our emotions. Gotta learn to not do that.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
badger and twosculcata you both are either on drugs or you just trying to play the devils advocate or you really bought into this GOP crap. Where is Bush right now? If this isn't his fault why don't he his ugly monkey face and say "calm down everyone, mission accomplished!!!!" LOL ... he's in hiding after ruining this country he has no FACE to show up. NO ONE LIKES HIM...but it's not just him, it's all GOP because they don't do what they preach, because what they preach is impossible to do
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
you are right badger...delecamp is delusional. on this present course, the middle class will be destroyed by obama taxes and policies. libs make sound like the only people that got rich were repubs. the facts say 3-1 wall street gave to obama. libs will not be happpy until America is fully socialist and then fascist. it is not evil to make a product and then reap great rewards for it. libs just punish people for being successful and tax them to death so lazy folks can take whats not theirs
twosulcata 2 years ago
We progressives and we value a liberal education...you say "libs just want to punish people for being successful"...what you obviously have not mentioned is that successful can be ill-begotten...we don't want mortgagors having huge success loaning out money to those who can't afford to pay it back and then sell those mortgages backed securities back into the stock market for others to buy...do you know understand that successful begotten in that manner is not good for society in general??
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
what about when success is not ill-gotten as you have suggested? or is that possible to you? can a company have profits that are ok? who makes the lines in the sand? i say the public does. and let us not forget that it was clinton who gave us the "community redevelopment act in 1994" that made it possible and some would say a right to own a house that they could not afford. and how many dems voted for war in the iraq based on the intel that the world had???????
twosulcata 2 years ago
an educated public does...but once public universities go bankrupt, we're all f-ked.
sure there can be honest profit...but it's not honest profit that got us into this mess. honest profits don't get us into these kinds of hard to fix messes...wouldn't you agree? someone somewhere had to profit illicitly and now we are all paying for it.
mortgage backed securities was a fraud, and so are most insurance companies (not doctors, not physicians, not nurses) obama is a step in the right direction.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
the GOP has really 2 policies...destroy the middle class wealth and destroy the middle class opportunities for education. without money or ideas the middle class becomes a poor slave class...easier to control...easier to manipulate...easier to not want democracy...when Bush wasted money he wasted tax payer...it wasn't an investment, it was a waste...and GOP was fine with it...but you tax insurance company..OH MY GOD, that's SOCIALISM, THAT'S NAZISM!! they scream...we cant' afford this party
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
Ignorance is bliss. You say the GOP is trying to destroy the middle class. Last I checked, both houses of congress as well as the oval office are housed by a large majority of democrats. They are for higher taxes, greater regulations. What do businesses do with their "evil profits?" They use it to expand the company and CREATE more jobs and maybe bonuses for MORE EMPLOYEES (yeah, that includes middle class).
badger5566 2 years ago
Obama, on the other hand, wants to raise taxes to a crippling level. This will destroy busniess and enslave employees. What is a tax? If the government seizes 50% of your labor. That amount of work you use to produce for your family is seized only to be pissed away by government beurocrats- To Pelosi so she can fly her jet cross-country every week while the unemployment rises.
badger5566 2 years ago
At least 7.1 millino people are out of work...you know what is keeping them from turning to crime? from perhaps rioting and causing real problems?!? that 475 dollars/week in gov't checks...the gov't never works when GOP is in control...they just let the private wealthy corporation do whatever the fuck they want...when DEM in control, they make the wealthy corporations behave. It's not like America hasn't had higher taxes before...in fact our taxes were higher in the 50-70s and USA was fine.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
Taxes ARE slavery. Who are you kidding. But I suppose you wouldnt know that because you've never held a real job before. I guess it would be easier to be a greedy lazy lib like you to steal from someone else. See, we conservatives beleive in self reliance, liberty, and the pursuit of hapiness. What do you beleive in?
badger5566 2 years ago
i've went to a top public school for engineering and i went to a top elite law school. and i'm employed...but w/this economy who the fuck knows. Everyone wants to be self-reliant but when you vote in politicians make sure they don't waste wealth...because when you waste wealth you'll place 17 million people out of work within 1 year (what you think they all of a sudden got fired for being lazy???)
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
you champion a party that has two main planks of abortion and homosexuality and you call republicans who are pro-life and pro- God's family from satan??? if bush is a financial criminal then obama is the king pin mobster. just look at the stimulus bill,,,with no debate...almost a trilion.....i look at pelosi, frank, reid and boxer to name a few and you call the rebpublican party is mentally retarded???? sir, you have no plumb line.
twosulcata 2 years ago
You know, Where were you Cricus freaks when bush spent all your money like some crazy teenage girl at shopping mall? huh? also Japan has a better system than you clowns will ever have.
chrisfo19 2 years ago
how can you claim that bush was the big spender when obama has spent massive amounts more in the first six months? i completely agree that bush spent waaaay to much, especially as a republican. i mean really, it's obama that spends like no tomorrow. he can't print it fast enough. and soon enough there will be MASSIVE inflation.
twosulcata 2 years ago
Republicans are responsible for 9.3 trillion out of our 11 trillion dollar long term debt. You guys are a joke. You're only around because your criminal friends in the media help you stay afloat. That and you sell your souls to big business.
stanjz 2 years ago
well stanz..that isa very interesting spin. you need to realize tht the media is bought and paid for by the left. it is really state run. talk about criminal...
twosulcata 2 years ago
because Bush's spending was a complete waste...Obama's spending was forced by the situation but at least it's an investment back into US economy....do we have trouble thinking two steps ahead, here??!?!
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
I'm an american and I'm not happy with the GOP...but don't bash us all the way, we are already humbled by our stupidity by voting in large numbers of Democrats...but it's not enough...we need to vote in even more progressives and liberals. I HATE THE GOP...they arent American...they are anti-democracy, anti-middle class, but a lot of us love them, and it shocks me as much as it does you.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
ahhh yess.....communism...so even the man with an X box, hummer, and cell phone can still have free healthcare!!
kowtpr187 2 years ago
Ahhh but then the question is, what's more important? Is it to make sure that the rich aren't getting there Band-Aids handed to them on silver platters, or that the poor are getting their lives saved?
kimciotola 2 years ago
i have a news flash for you... I guess you missed the complete economic collaps last year.. free market ideas are a dream in a corrupt business world. Free market economy is nothing but a disguise for the rich to steal a nations wealth. Wake up America, you are the only western world with a hopeless overprised healthcare. Obama is one of the first Presidents to understand you must take care of the people. The rich sure dont.
crlhow 2 years ago
LOL
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
Has everyone seen what California's up to now? The state is in such economic dire straits (I wonder why....allowing millions of illegals to run wild and taxing companies to death until they leave, etc), that they're now considering lowering the tax rates on corporations and other business-luring incentives.......
JimmyPopcornDontCare 2 years ago
No way! New idea?! Who would have ever though low taxes might actually attract more businesses and jobs to the state..... Even lib Cali must now understand low taxes have economic benefit. When will the oval office get the memo?
badger5566 2 years ago
are fucken kiddoing, CA is fucked because we made it nearly impossible for the state legislature to raise taxes...and who implemented this scheme back in the 70s? a GOP.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
lol, CA has overspent. dalecampbl5 you can't keep raising taxes and expect things to be alright and give govts. a blank check from the public. Govt. needs to be trimmed down and more efficient and stop wasting money on useless programs. Govt. seems to cause more dependency and the bigger problem with govt. at any level is that they tend not to allow people that have served their time behind bars a chance to enter society w/o restriction. Govt. hasn't got a clue anymore and that is just sad.
shaithis45 2 years ago
obama is spending in areas that will have huge payoffs in the very near future...bush spent in areas with no pay off and he didn't tax in areas that would have paid off...go figure!!!...obama's not an idiot, he's a very well respect person around the globe and he's incredibly analytical and rational...people like you are nothing but red hot dishonest vitriol spewing distractionists whose voice crowds out the voice of reason...but you shalln't succeed this time.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
dalecampbl5: Obama is not that rational and not that smart.....he's employing old-school socialism, that has failed around the globe EVERY time....all those nations who supposedly "respect him" are nations in decline thanks to their wonderful economic ideas.... LOL
JimmyPopcornDontCare 2 years ago
And yet the Scandanavian countries with there social welfare models offer a quality of life far superior to anything that America can offer. The people are also richer per capita, (and half as fat) The American government cant even balance their own budget. Not to mention that China owns you because of your huge debt. America can only offer the world war, the only business you have left. Obama will hopefully change that.. Otherwise the poor will rise up and
crlhow 2 years ago
we gave the dems both houses of congress & the whitehouse to implement reform- there is no reform without the public option, costs will continue to rise, tens of millions uncovered or undercovered, healthcare will still be the leading cause of bankruptcies- over 70% of dems support the public option, even higher with the young voter, we need baucus & the rest of the 'blue dogs' to know we will make sure they are not in congress in 2011 if they continue to sell out & oppose the public option
aztecadog 2 years ago
aztecdogface:
your socialist attempts are failing....the dummies in the middle, who pulled the lever for "change," that great mystical and undefined change, are seeing the error of their ways.....
JimmyPopcornDontCare 2 years ago
dem piss me off...ram it through, try for the 60, if not vote again...keep doing it...GOP will never allow public option...not a single one of them...screw...DEM piss me off becuz they are wussies, i swear!!!
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
The Dems are not being wussies. Hell, they have the audacity to call their own constituents racicists and undermine the fact the majority of americans reject this bill. If the House had the votes to pass it, they would do it today. Fact of the matter is, they DO NOT. So they will continue to lie and hide their plans from the public (yeah, real transparent), 2010 can't come soon enough. Dems know that. That is why they have been TRYING to "ram it through"
badger5566 2 years ago
We have no more money for any type of universal health care, period. Thank you to the last twenty presidents, who spent a lot more than we took in....especially Bush and Obama.....disgraces!
JimmyPopcornDontCare 2 years ago
don't you dare lump obama in with Bush...first obama has had 8 month of presidency, Bush had 8 and 6 of those years he had the goddamn congress...don't be trying ot mix red with blue to get green...don't work that way...universal health care money will come from taxes...who do we tax? rich individuals and rich corporations...i don't want this country to end up like plutonomy...people are entitlted to their wealth, but reality is the TOO wealthy can use their wealth to destroy my livelihood
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
The majority of Americans reject this far-left health bill being pushed by the Progressive democrats. It's even too radical for most democrats.
Raiding Medicare, threatening people with jail time if they don't purchase health insurance and taxing everything is not going to fly with the American public.
SocialistDemokrat 2 years ago 2
SocialistDemokrat, you are right. Most Americans are speaking up and opposing this terrible health care idea...Obama is a sneak...he won't cover illegals in the bill, cuz he knows he'll move to make them legals soon....sneak!
JimmyPopcornDontCare 2 years ago
actually new polls show majority of American have shifted and now support...while still fairly close to 50/50
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
dalecampbl5....wishful thinking....more Americans than ever oppose Obama's health care plan...Rasmussen poll....we can't afford any more socialism....Bush and now this idiot, Obama, have spent us dry
JimmyPopcornDontCare 2 years ago
it's not socialism...it's rationalism...we need more rationalism...invest in areas that pay off and use taxes to shift that money...it's not socialism, it's optimism. just because you slap a label on it, doesn't mean it's true.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
IF an area is profitable, taxes are not needed for it because it would be self-sustainable. Isnt there a word for it? Free market maybe? Dare I say it.... Capitalism?
LOL: Socialism rationalism? Yeah, East Germany and the Soviet Union had real rational economies. I wonder why people risked being shot to jump the Berlin wall into "Evil Capitalist West Germany"
badger5566 2 years ago
badger5566: you're making too much sense in here today....these liberals won't know what to do with themselves....lol....all they've known is that big tit in the sky that takes care of everything from cradle to grave....LOLOL
JimmyPopcornDontCare 2 years ago
Oh I get it! So if we change the name from Socialism to something else, that changes everything! Oh good, yay!
badger5566 2 years ago
how in the world did a health care reform speech turn into a debate about homosexuality and God?
but anyways Obama seems really legit in terms of laying down an actual plan to help cut back on deficts and bring about real changes to the Health care Issue. In addition, I believe that the idea of changing insurance companies to a free market will really help increase competition n is the correct path to cut back on costs. lets just hope this plan gets implemented asap =)
xxzunitxx 2 years ago
Except he has no intention of "changing insurance companies to a free market." As a matter of fact, it is the opposite. The ultimate goal is a single payer system.
badger5566 2 years ago
i got tired of debating obama's health care plan...=)
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
The health care plan has no plan it will sink our country as we know it.!!!!
heidi71007 2 years ago 2
Obama to me, represents not only hope, but he's just the beginning. we must move away from conservatism, any "faith" based lack of factual analysis advocating party must be thrown out. we need rationalism. we need analysis of everything, of course for good purposes, for purposes beneficial to all humanity. religion and monarchies and oligarchies have set societies back enough, ruined them; but scientists like einstein, darwin, newton, maxwell, watson and crick are the true messiahs 4 us.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
obama to me represents despair. mark my words...America will fall under his ideas. recently my 8th grade daughter had to watch a movie called "sizzle" in her SCIENCE class. a homosexual couple presents GLOBAL WARMING along with cursing, God's name in vain, many sexual comments, many more sexual comments to what end???? just another state run agenda to make being gay ok. fyi...it backfired. all it takes is for one to inform others about the truth.
twosulcata 2 years ago
Well let me ask you this. What "factual analysis" do you have to support socialism and successful economies under bloated centralized governments. Was it Soviet Russia? Did East Germany fare better than West Germany? You decide. On the other hand, there is a direct coorelation between free market, low taxes, and economic prosperity (these are conservative principles). Our country is a perfect example of that. Compare Michigan (unions, taxes) to Texas (few unions, low taxes)- compare employment.
badger5566 2 years ago 2
where have you been the last year?our 'free market' system, aka big biz race to the bottom, had to be bailed out by our government, how many times does our gov have to bail out 'free market' industries, remember the airlines? deregulation gave the fat cats a green light to rape our financial system, those billions upon billions didnt all just disappear-& as for your socialism doesnt work argument, who are we borrowing the money from? china,a socialist country thats buying up the worlds resources
aztecadog 2 years ago
aztecdogface: first of all, in most of the instances, it was government interference in the first place that caused the problems (such as big brother pressuring banks to make loans to unqualified minorities)...and i'm against any government bailouts....they should stand or fall on their own....so go smoke that, commie
JimmyPopcornDontCare 2 years ago
government intervention is mostly responsible for the collapse in the first place. Legislation to force banks to give out bad loans via sub-prime morgages was a huge mistake. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (also gov entities) prolonged the problem and made things worse. Second, I opposed both Bushes TARP and Obama's phoney stimulus right from the beginning. See, that is not free market. That is croney capitalism. There is a difference.
badger5566 2 years ago
evictor, i think you missed the point. my point is simply God created all and is the author of diversity and creation. man has taken what God has created and made it into peversity. ie...God's plan for relationship is a man and a woman. man's perversity is man and a man etc.. God's plan is sex only in the marriage relationship. man's perversity is sex before marriage and outside of marriage. aids will never be a problem for me. only for those who engage in acts outside of God's will.
twosulcata 2 years ago
Doesn't it feel like Obama's been in office for a very long time?
America's ready for change.
SocialistDemokrat 2 years ago
How come people dont understand this
Kmchaco 2 years ago
he's just not getting too many claps here is he? And he's really not liking the lack of support as opposed to when he was a public activist. Ooooh the majority of America just doesn't like him, Acorn, and his wife's statements....
mvbeckril 2 years ago
What's all of this talk Obama does about single cases he's chosen to pick out for his continuous speeches? This is as bad as when Pelosi tried to explain how y 500 million Americans will lose their jobs when there's only 305 million folks IN the USA. THESE are the lying people we have to deal with. Hey Bam Bam, try governing instead of making ridiculous speeches and being a TV star! Even your complicit l wing networks look at their watches wondering whem you'll finally
mvbeckril 2 years ago
be done! When will you finally stop hating America? Do we have to put up with 3 plus more years of your bullshit?
mvbeckril 2 years ago
yeah...and GOP senator believes the earth is 6000 years
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
Obama---you lie
harveyforte 2 years ago
with selective faith, we ignore the hard part of being christian, the selfless part...why is it hard? because genetically we're selfish...we cannot afford to just help someone else without payback...at least not to the level christ wishes us to do...the bible is anti-human nature, no doubt, but depending on how you
view it, its truth or lies. I think it's lies because of its anti-human nature teachings...if anything the Bible teaches communism...everyone is the same, rich gives to poor. etc.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
i help people all the time without any payback. why is tht so hard to understand. sadly, you don't know what the Bible teaches. it is not selective be against homosexuality and abortion..because God is. love what God loves and hate what God hates. mercy triumphs over judgement.
twosulcata 2 years ago
you don't know what homosexuality really is...a male gets two doses of testosterone when he is conceived...once in the uterus of his mother, the second time during puberty as his testes grow. Males who don't get the right amount of testosterone in the mother's uterus have a high chance of becoming homosexual. studies and studies and studies have been done to affirm this ... religious people can deny this...you can say being gay is choice or a sin or both. whatever....(to be continued)
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
when we don't know the real reason for things we can make up stories...and we've been making stories up for the majority of our 'history'. but the time for that is over due to insane and vast scientific advancements. there's no difference between islam, christianity, judaism, or even greek mythology...don't ever contriubute your human nature to some sort of religious indoctrination.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
i will guarantee you that there is a world of difference between the god of islam and the God of christianity. you suffer from terminal liberalism and the anything goes and all truth is relative world view. God is God and will always be God no matter what you think or say. it's your choice to align with the world's perverted way of thinking. choose this day whom you will serve....
twosulcata 2 years ago
the problem for you is that i know exactly what homosexuality is. God made it very clear who we are and why we were created. all you are really saying is that God made a mistake when he created us. it is no problem to find the next author to say what you want with all the psycho-babble that the world has to dish out. nevertheless God will not be mocked. God created diversity...man created perversity.
twosulcata 2 years ago
look my friend, all I'm trying to point out is men have done a lot of wrong, harmful and "bad" choices in the name of religion. is science everything? science is what we live in...i dunno if there is a "god" or not, but i know science is there..so why not trust what is in front of you instead of putting beliefs in faith...faith is what gets people in trouble more often not...it's better to understand the laws behind things man...I'm trying to sound pretentious at all here either.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
faith in God is the only real thing there is to trust that is right in front of us.
twosulcata 2 years ago
religion makes people do crazy things...it's not the only thing that makes people go crazy..people can become devout in just about any type of funky religion...it's good to have hope and faith too...that's why religion won't go away....but if we were all hard core scientists (and I'm not) we all recognize that there is SO much we don't know and should not jump to conclusions or at least try to find out about things. We should be seekers of truth and hopefully contribute to the human welfare.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
i do appreciate the kindness in which you replied after all these times. thank you. sadly there are only a handful of churches that really re-pre-sent God in a real and powerful way. this why the term hypocrite is so generally used and rightly so for the western church. but know this...God is real;. Jesus is real. and from my view it is not funky or crazy. i have tasted and will never go back.
twosulcata 2 years ago
I am an Atheist and I am not gay. I do not discriminate between gays, straights or any other kind of person. Imagine that, a world where we can all be equal for a change. What I've noticed, is many religious people discriminate against gay people, have you forgotten that they are humans too? Your religious beliefs have taught you to hate, and think bad of people who do not share your beliefs, at this point you are no longer a person, you are a monster. It's a shame you're so blinded.
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Wheatthin31 2 years ago
it's pointless to hate gays because anyone giving the right dosage of hormonal treat in the uterus can increase the likelihood of them being gay...it's just inane to fight over these things...for the most part, nature will create mostly heterosexual men to propagate the species. Let's not waste time and energy fighting over those who won't procreate anyways and pass on their gay genes..what the fucken point right? waste of time and money. we got more important social issues to deal with TODAY
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
i don't hate the homosexual i hate homosexuality. note, there is a huge difference. i hate the sin, not the person. AND SO DOES GOD... really not blind at all. and may i say for anyone who knows me they would say not a mean bone in my body. i have hugged and prayed for the gay and said to them just as i have said to you. and guess what they don't think i hate them as a person either. maybe it's your heart that needs attention????
twosulcata 2 years ago
i want you to prove that God hates homosexuality? do you have any proof besides biblical text that god hates homosexuality and it can't be some skin heads beating up gays, thats one man's hatred towards another...but what about god hating gays? hm?
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
the only proof that i need and there is is God's Word. i completely agree, skinheads are not christian and not of God and the same for the kkk. God hates sin. homosexuality is a sin. God loves the person. the homosexual is a person. i find no difference between the person that slanders and gossips etc...as to the homosexual...it is all against God's will.
twosulcata 2 years ago
so you've read God's word...but you have never actually heard it from God have you?
one other thing, God allowed the kings of Israel to have 100s if not 1000s of wives/concubines..you cool w/that too? do you despise the fact that Bill Clinton got a blow job from Monica Lewinski? It's all selective faith, my friend.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
again you have no clue about God and His Word. please note there is a great difference between God's perfect will and His permissive will. there is a difference between the old testament and the new. between the law and grace. all you want to do is mock God..or so it seems. your god seems to be the world, science and the like...good luck...........
twosulcata 2 years ago
science has saved ur ass...if you were born in the European dark ages, first you'd probably be lucky if you even had a wife, since monarchies had all the fertile women as servants...second you'd be a poor peasant, third u'd be lucky to live til 30, if disease or wars didn't get to you first...science gave us protection, cures, and finally freed us from faith based thinking, it gave you extended life, a family, and the leisure time to think about things .. like God...u need to pray to science
dalecampbl5 2 years ago