The West Wing - Charlie and Ambassador

[Animalfriend777]

Can some one tell me the background on this? Who was this guy and how did he know Charlie?

[ArmyAngelsMom]

@Animalfriend777 The Ambassador was sleeping with the daughter of the leader of the country where he was stationed, but knew Charlie from when he belong to an exclusive club. When President Bartlett mentioned his name to Charlie he noticed Charlie had a reaction and was trying to figure out what it was. Hope that clarifies it for you...lol. Google the episode guide, it may do a better job than I.

[Animalfriend777]

What episodes?

[Kasino80]

Remember the times when you went to YouTube to see a video and the comments actually were ABOUT the clip?

[devore504]

WTF DOES ANYTHING Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT HAS TO DO WITH THE CLIP SHUT THE F UP

[japorche]

Actually the US Army officer who wore a medal he didn't earn was a general (either 2 or 3 star).

[magreenz1]

To all "Tea Party" nut-jobs...Here I am any way...Brock

[jillhbaudhaan]

Gotta Go!  lmao

[deBebbler]

Good Lord! I'm glad television is there to show all of us rubes in Flyover Country that all Republicans like this ambassador are racist scum.

Wait a minute....he's a Democrat! How this ever got through the editing phase, we may never know. Maybe the fact that he didn't vote for Bartlett is evidence of being a "bad" liberal, or having "too much republican" in him, lol.

Great Charlie moment, but nothing beats Bartlett giving him the knife. Leftist tripe though it is, I love the West Wing.

[grumpytosnowwhite]

@deBebbler The West Wing actually wasn't a show where Democrats were the good guys and Republicans were bad. The Bartlet administration were the good guys -- and Democrats -- and they obviously had a liberal slant in political philosophy, but they treated unprincipled democratic congressmen and politicos with just as much distain as republican ones.

[deBebbler]

@grumpytosnowwhite

In this show:

Bob Russell, the first main political rival to Bartlett, had zero substantive political philosophy.

A room full of "conservative Chistians" didn't know the 1st commandment.

US Army Colonels wear medals they didn't earn.

And on and on and on.

Until Vinick, republicans were repeatedly characterized as unprincipled, racist, and/or stupid.

[grumpytosnowwhite]

@deBebbler Okay, so you've obviously decided to block out Ainsley Hayes, Matt Skinner, Cliff Calley, Mr. Willis, and others.

Also, Bob Russell was Bartlet's seond Vice President. i.e., a Democrat, and a moronic one at that.

A great many politicians, democrat and republican, were portrayed as unprincipled and/or hypocritical.

Only one US army colonel wore a medal he didn't earn. The other military officers were apolitical and principled.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

[deBebbler]

@grumpytosnowwhite

Your right about Russell. Wrong character. my bad. The fact remains his first Rep opponent was written without substance.

Mr Willis wasn't exactly written as "not stupid", either. I didn't "forget" Ainsley, in fact, I am all over comments on her bits here. I only have 500 characters. Sam Seaborn I am not.

My point of the colonel is that the argument was never resolved, due to the "unprincipled" soldier and CJ wins by default. It is cheap writing. AKA ex deus machina.

[grumpytosnowwhite]

@deBebbler Bartlet actually respected that man, and told CJ that he was brave enough to fight in multiple wars, so he should be able to say whatever he wanted on TV about Bartlet. I agree that Richie was too blatant a Bush parody, but he *was* the main bad guy of that arc. Having a democrat being the bad guy would make no sense in context. Even though Richie was rather rub-it-in-your-face, at least Sorkin didn't go out of his way to vilify a Republican for *no* reason.

[slc42477]

@deBebbler

Republicans are "unprincipled, racist, and...stupid."

[ImperatorDominus]

@slc42477 Not all of them...

[sunnchilde]

@slc42477 And evil. Republicans think nothing of giving multi-million tax breaks to oil companies, but those senior citizens living on $600 a month and eating cat food - THEY have to go.

[younghoss]

@sunnchilde

Social security was originally for widows and orphans of WW1, at a time when life span was about 65.

It expanded to become a supplement to retirement. A person that has had 40+ working years available should have made retirement plans during those years rather than counting on social sec for 100% of retirement income. Not to say I don't feel sorry for the "cat food" example- just saying I wish they had planned better so it wouldn't be everyone else's job to take care of them.

[sunnchilde]

@younghoss Yes it IS. It IS society's responsibility to take care of everyone. I don't want to live in a place where corporate fat cats raid people's retirement accounts and force them to choose between the medication they need and eating. It's the Rep. who feel like they don't want to pay for anything but for themselves. Or who want "limited Government" unless it's for an abortion in which case they want all the power in the world to force you not to have one.

[younghoss]

@sunnchilde

I don't know of gov't raiding retirement accounts. Did you mean social security, a SUPPLEMENT to individuals' retirement accts? Very different than raiding my retirement account. Both parties have raided soc sec.

We disagree, sunnchilde. I believe in personal responsibility first. If people that had opportunity to work 40 yrs had planned for their retirement most would not be counting on soc sec as their ONLY income. Spend like crazy now so society must support me later? No way.

[sunnchilde]

@younghoss I could argue this with you, but I don't have to. You're going to lose. You can say one thing about immigrants...they breed like rabbits. Eventually, they are going to over-run "Red" states like Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and Florida. and without Texas the Republicans will never win another national election. They may not even win local elections anymore...except in Mississippi. You're going to lose. Chew on that.

[younghoss]

@sunnchilde

Immigrants? This is discussion about each person's responsibility to plan to support themself or if society has the obligation to fully, richly, support all retired people.

Most all agree the current system cannot go on forever, as more retire, lifespans increase, and benefits increase. It must change or go bankrupt. Soc sec is a safety net - not the one and only retirement plan.

Y is it wrong for the first option to be for us to plan to take care of ourself?

[sunnchilde]

@younghoss Well they should if they can. But many people can't because they're too busy living hand to mouth, squeezed by grocery prices, gas prices & medical bills because they couldn't get proper insurance in the first place because of this condition or that. Taxes have to go up, especially for the rich & strict regulation has to be wrapped around the throats of corporations that are gaming the system. And we will win because Rep. have now alienated all minorities. Who breed like rabbits.

[hitch4645]

if i ever meet martin sheen i dont think i could call him anything but mr president

[WiZSOC]

Oh, wow! Now THAT'S an "Obama" moment.

[suryalinaten10]

Haha, go Charlie!

[zippidog]

gotta go..sorkin genious

[KartarNighthawk]

Nice work Charlie. Proof that not all Ambassadors are that bright.

[harlequin115]

From my experience, most aren't.....

[enm97]

In a series full of great scenes, this one was certainly one of them. Charlie had the Ace in his pocket and no one else knew what he knew, until it was too late!!

[grumpytosnowwhite]

Charlie pwns. That is all. He is just too epically perfect for words right here.

[xxNIKEDAN63bb]

"Well thanks for trying but here I am anyway, gotta go" great scene.

[WillBraden]

hahaha! that this moron thinks that's gonna somehow sting Bartlet at that moment is priceless and dumb...so great. and Charlie knows exactly how far HE can push it to let the guy know that he's in deep shit and he has zero respect for him. just a perfect scene.

[HotPiratesWench]

i fricken love charlie!

"...hes a little busy at the moment looking for a back door to throw you out of..."

[lifesaver72]

" Wait a second, you two have a past?" Great scene. :-)

[strasheep]

hahaha.. thanks for trying but here i am anyway.. gotta go!!

classic!!

[SantaCruzSoulSurfer]

That was such a great scene!

[supretaco]

Completley forget that I'm an idiot

[DarbiB]

So..i dont get what is his problem with charlie and the club?

[NoirMusic]

You get that how?

[altogirl02]

Charlie caddied for a golf/country club that didn't allow black members. Every once in a while, someone who belonged to that club recognizes Charlie.

[sc2156]

I Wonder why he would have caddied for such a club?

[step5732]

You've obviously never worked in the service industry (restaurants, hotels, private clubs). Big money. Remember, he's a smart, respectful, hard working guy with a little sister to support.

[sc2156]

Perhaps you missed my point. Charlie is cutting into this guy (and rightfully so) for being a member of a white's only club, and yet he worked for the very same club.

[caesergroovus]

@sc2156 My guess is if the guy had played at an EO course it would not have made for very compelling story telling

[larrymcg421]

It's not always easy to find a job. As said above, he had a sister to support. He probably took whatever he could get.

[gagothesith]

work, job, salary

[step5732]

"thank for trying, but here I am anyway, gotta go"

LOL!

[hollywoodwerewolf]

Dule Hill's Charlie grew up on that show. At first he was a young man who wanted a messenger's job. Next thing he knows he's Personal Aide to the President. He gained confidence and maturity. Great character

[NoirMusic]

Great point! By season seven he really just one wrung below where Sam was at the beginning.

[skorpyonayts1169]

asshole!

[theforeman118]

That line is a little tiresome, isn't it?

[sarnieken]

You fuckwit! Why don't you put your white sheet on and f*ck off back to 1960's America, or South Africa before the end of Apartheid. You'd fit right in there, you f*cking loser!

[Prod1Kh]

He's up to 010 now, is he? He was at 007 when I first came across him. How many accounts does he have? As someone else asked him: "how's that thousand-year reich coming along?"

[sarnieken]

I like that comment. Its a wander he can count up to 10 anyway without having to remove his shoes and socks. The guys probably inbred anyway so would be able to take it to 11! :-)

[vintagefish921]

Well, thanks for trying, but here I am anyway!

[xuscbausp]

i love this scene. please keep uploading any and all WW clips you can! Thanks

[MyOwnFan1993]

Holy crap, I'm laughing my ass off! This is funny sh!t. i don't know how the actors kept a straight face. And I agree pemb2681, jillhbaudhaan and themillionairess.

[themillionairess]

That "gotta go!" kills me every time. xD

[cat181818]

what episode is this from?

[Kelseyshuan]

from S01EP21-Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics

the same episode when Sam and Laurie's story break...

[timfox329]

Kill yourself

[timfox329]

Kill yourself

[jokr8790]

"Well I'm personal aide to the President, so my supervisors a little busy right now trying to find a back door to this place to shove you out of."

[pemb2681]

"Well, thanks for trying, but here I am anyway". Brilliant.

[jillhbaudhaan]

i wonder how many takes that took, i would have laughed straight through the next person's line . . . youre right, brilliant

[step5732]

Charlie is awesome!