I'll rephrase, I agree with Macvarish that they were prbably from the Armenian/Azerbaijan area and so likely to be a highland people and more than likely to have been a black haired race. The area was part of a crossroads that was dominated by a darker indo-european species. Place names and the names of descendent rulers of ancient kingdoms in the area do suggest an eastern origin.
I don't mean to be rude but I get annoyed with the egotistical assumptions on the part of the blue eyed and fair haired that sometimes borders on megalomania.
I would surmise that they were a semitic highland people from the east. There are clues to that fact They were not blue eyed blondes from Germany Mr Schimdt. Get off the site.
Kurdistans population is 46million. 46million Kurds without a country! Kurds have the oldest history on earth. They came before Turkey or any other country in this planet. Don't you think they deserve to get back what was stolen from them?
Project Bluebeam. Research it. It is designed to 'show' that the Bible is wrong. I am an archaeologist and something about this site smells really bad.
Listen up people we we only know what we are alllowed to know,lets face it man will never dicover the moment of creation. We have a planet thats being stripped of its natural resources. We are dooming ourselves and if dont learn to live in Harmony with nature we will destroy ourselves. We need to learn to take care of this planet and to follow the old ways of the wise ones.Humans as I see it need to ban together and create a better world .
@nuneh : as far as anyone can say this predates Armenian occupation of this area and I am no biblical scolar but I am pretty sure Palestine, technically, was the "first christian nation". Mesopotamia's oldest recorded residents were 'Sumerian', a white non-semetic race, unrelated to Assyrians or Babylonians; currently believed to have come into the region from the east.
Armenia require to be recognised as a nation but distorting history does not improve that cause.
@theMacvarish "Armenia require to be recognised as a nation..."???
friend, i was going to give u a legit comment response, but it seems like ur in need of some basic, basic knowledge before we can start talking about ancient history
there is not a single scholar that argues that the first christian was any nation but ARMENIA.armenia doesn't need newly found recognition as a nation. Armenias one of the 5 oldest nations in the world&the 1st christian nation.
@nuneh ; thankyou for lowering yourself to my level. I asked around and it seems that Christianity started in Palestine, as was, apparently the man whom invented it all, was born there. And you, nuneh, obviously, are one of the worlds leading experts, on ancient "nations", so would be rude to point out that there were many tribal states in existance long before "Armenia". You want old, google A-b-o-r-i-g-i-n-a-l, 100,000 years and counting. The rest of us are as children, to them.
@theMacvarish you asked around? i'd surround myself with more intelligent people, in that case as you seem to think Armenia is in need of recognition to become a state, while it is one of the five oldest countries in all of history.
@nuneh : thankyou for the pdf. It states that the oldest recorded people in this area were the Hayasa-Azzi,(3,500BC), and that the Armen arrived,( "from the Balkans" ), in 1300BC app. So how can this civilisation be " Armenian" if it predates your ancestors by more than 6,500 years ?
@nuneh :I have. I am comfused, Armenia is what then ?
" there was a Bronze Age tribe of the Armens, either identical or, or forming a subset of the Hayasa-Azzi. In this case 'Armenia' would be an ethnonym rather than a toponym".
from a history of your country recommended by Yerevan SU.
@nuneh : naming tribes before the written periods is almost impossible. I have found records of an eastern migration into this area but these tribal groups, like those from the south west are defined by the tools or artefacts. There is a site not so far from this one with datings of 23,000 years.
@theMacvarish human existence has persisted for thousands of years... thats a fact.
but the center of civilization was in fact in this area and it is another FACT that the Armenians were the first civilization (not just another nomadic group) to live in this area.
nomadic people would not invest in building something this sophisticated if they are only going to reside there for a week or so.
Armenians were the first sedentary civilization in this area according to all historical writings.
@nuneh : As you wish nuneh. Although there is nothing to identify whom ever built this as belonging to any, particular, group; it is Armenian. And we will ignore all other predating evidence of civilisation and credit all to Armenia. Fire, stone, bronze and iron all Armenian. Might as well add pyramids, henges, cave painting, cuniform, shoes, maths, astronomy, the internal combustion engine and tv; all Armenian. Now can you, please, stop shouting at us ?
@theMacvarish you are being ridiculous... and no one every insisted that this is 100% Armenian built.
I said, and you can quote me... that this area's first sedentary civilization were the Armenians so it will likely be their ancestors that built this.
Many of the earliest civilizations (Assyrian, Babylonian, Hitites, Armenians, Egyptians, Chinese, Ethiopians...) have all made major contributions. We should be able to talk freely about each & give credit where its due.
@nuneh yo what the hell are u talking about that time where were no armenia and mangols man. they found this in southeastren not even in turkey in kurdstan blood and mesopotamya was kurdstan man what the hell are you talking about. that time there were no armenian. we had so many empires for example mades . babylonian. summorian. parthian. and our realigion was zartosht before man. and its not even in turkey a kurdish shepard found this man every one in the world stolen kurdish history blood.
@beki150 shut the fuck up moron, mede parthian babylonian and sumerian all came from IRAN, parthian are IRANIAN tribe, median are IRANIAN tribe, EVEN KURDISH IDIOTS LIKE YOU, are IRANIAN tribe.
@WinkyMaeve u shut the fuk up mate.they just say iranian to everything.but im afraid they weren.t iranian.they were kurds.nd the real iranian ppl are kurds not persian arab.which they called pars.so get lost u fucker.they all were kurds.down for iran,iraq nd turky.har bji kurdistan.zende bad kurdistan.
this site was found on land that turkey stole from Armenia.
the first nation to be called Armenia/Hayk/Hayastan was in 2492 BC.... even before that, Armenian tribes lived in the area. tribes include the Hayasa-Azzi....
like i asked.... DO YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO LIVED ON THIS LAND before THE ARMENIANS?????????
@nuneh hey blodd u listen up man.we have kurds in armania.so what r u talking about?nd also it might be armanian kurds.we dont no.but all i no lots of ppl chatting shit to be honest.like parsian nd arabs or turks.they dont even no where they come from.nd they just stealing kurdish history.nd this is says mesopotamia.nd they were kurds i no that for sure.in fucking arabic language they call it bainon nahrain.so yeh.wburself man?do u no any1 who lived there?if u say yes thats bullshit.
@beki150 cos this was about 12000 years ago.so no one knows.nd i dont believe english sciectist at all mate.like they say we came from black ppl.ppl just say shit.but kurdistan is so old even more than that.we have a city called rabat in west kurdistan.nd they found a big city under the ground which was from thousend years ago.the city name was called mossasir mate.is the land of zardasht ppl.but unfortunatly ppl just trying shit in this world.do u even no y there's no kurdistan?
@beki150 cos everything in these for countries u see now.were belongs to the kurds.trust me.fuck islam.cos they just shit nd stealer.nd they made haram and halal for stupid ppl nowwe have books we no everything.we'r just simple ppl.thats why we'r like that now.kurds r the strongest ppl ever.arabs mangols nd pars r fucking gay man.down for them.
I do hope they'll be making efforts to treat the stone to protect it from erosion, now that they've uncovered it. The only reason we have these artifacts, in such pristine shape, is because they were buried for so long.
@malvinaps1 If i was to change from a nomadic life to a settled one the first thing I would see to would be protection. I agree it seems strange that everything has to be religous, that would be a secondary thing for me.
I doubt very much this site was constructed by hunter/gatherers. It does not resemble a temple or religious site, either. The mounds of garbage found indicate that people lived in this place. Civilisations never exist in a vacuum. Obviously there are others waiting to be found. Examples like this are ALWAYS the result of the sharing of cultural ideas. Anyone who knows taxonomy knows that things don't just pop into existence.
@gsmonks Yes, it seems hard to believe. However, after more than a decade of excavation, no evidence of occupation has been found, e.g. tools, hearths, utensils, homes, graves... etc. More than 100,000 fragments of animal & bird bones have been recovered from the site. Many show signs of butchering and cooking (cut marks etc.). To date, none have come from a domesticated animal. All are from wild animals. Associated cereal remains are also of wild varieties(emmer & einkorn), not domestic.
wow ,most advanced,oldest,pre dates mesopotamia by 7000 years!!! doubled human history,19 foot pillars.Did I mention most Advanced! Not a single shred of evidence to prove any of that just a bunch of 19 foot pillars with animal carvings.Wheres the writing,or proof of anything other than speculation if it was that (ADVANCED). We uncovered an ancient zoo folks probably from the mesopotamian period.
Thanks for the info, I watched this find for years, expecting it was a hoax or the C14 was thrown off by something. The thing that stuck out as strange to me was the uncommon look of the animals. Glad to now think it's legit. Seems like more answers lead to bigger questions. Such is the nature of discovery! : )
I find it very hard to believe that this site was built by hunter/gatherers. I think we are trying our predetermined rational that humans at the time were hunter/gatherers therefore they had to be the ones that built this place. I totally disagree. I believe it was constructed by a yet unknown race of beings.
@Jones60100 It wasn't buried all in one go. The site was in use for about 2500 years but at any one given time it was quite small. As time progressed and new structures were built the old ones were buried. This culture often did the same thing with their houses. The curious thing is that the quality of the build declined with time- this is odd but it may have something to do with the change from nomadic to settled life and fewer nomadic people following tradition hunter lives- culture changes
"hunters". Afro Semitic occult nonsense. The territory was ancient Calendar built on the soil. Every "stone" pillar represented its name of the constellation
all world know turk kom from mongolia and southern turkey are kurdistan sanliurfa is land of kurds kurd are oldest land in mesopotamia plz dont stol history from kurds.
They aren't twice as old as the Pyramids though are they because noone accepts the horse ship the Egyptologists let spew out of the hole on their faces. It was at least 10,000 BC unless the Sphinx takes hidden showers we don't know about. The fact is, what we get told is horseshit, what we are educated or think we know is lies. Our whole Chronology needs RE-WRITTEN. Our Ancients lived through an astronomical 'Golden Age' going back to possibly 33,000-40,000 BC. Were so fickle its disgusting.
bull shit bbc crap never giving the truth in full, look up Gobekli Tepep for urselfs the site is estimated to be at least 12000 yrs old if not older long b4 we where even capable of building or writing, erm so we are told, there has never been so much as a tool even found at the site or anything about the people who constructed it. Its about time we were given our world history in truth, if only stone could talk lol
No body knows the real name of this civilazation and they called gobekli tepe name of this town ,is not it incredible ? it is still mystery and there is no record from this civilization anywhere wowwww!
@yozgatlicaner oh but there is..the Bible gives detail of the Garden os Eden..it fits perfect to the Bible and all the animals carved into the rock is like a library of Gods own..you people who doubt and moch your creator..he promised to unveil all that has been hidden..we know where Noahs Ark is at,The Ark of the Covenant,The exact parting of the Red sea etc..the City of Sodom & Gamora ...everything is being unveiled just as the Bible told us..
@79dtutt "bullshit". I'm sorry but the Bible was incorrect about the age of human civilizations, the Earth, and our history. I know it's hard for you to take but hey, it's just an ancient book of allegory. It's either that or you treat the outdated historic world view that is subject to change based on our newest discoveries as some sort of religious dogma. In that case you won't be able to accept the carbon dating data on this ancient site. That would be kind of tragic for you don't you think?
@fywacia I don't give a shit about the bible,or any religious dogma for that matter. carbon dating is a guess not fact. When you attack someones opinion it's best to know who the hell the you are attacking in the first place. Just because something old is discovered doesn't make it the oldest just because you or someone else wants it to be. It's bullshit as I said before. Thanks
@79dtutt Theology before science, I see. "Just because something old is discovered doesn't make it the oldest just because you or someone else wants it to be". You're right, that's why I go by carbon dating. The oldest discoveries that you have accepted as fact have now been replaced with even older ones. And they aren't getting any younger because you can't accept the science that backs up the dating of the dig site. It looks like you contradicted yourself and created your own dogma.
@fywacia No it doesn't. I do know that you sound like a complete idiot for for putting faith in something that isn't even 50% accurate. I could pick up a rock outside and come back with 5 or 10 different dates of origin. Why is it that you keep trying to assign me to some religious based way of thinking? It's you that holds firm to the idea that this vid proves something that you hold in high esteem. When it does nothing more than add to the confusion. Personal agenda?
@79dtutt It's because the only reason that you are debating me over carbon dating is because this recent find contracts your previous world view and you can't accept it. You have immediately assumed without any training or factual data that this dig site has been incorrectly dated. It makes no sense, why aren't you out there poking your stick at other sites that have been carbon dated? You seem to accept everything else but then when something new comes along you accuse those....
@fywacia LOL are you serious. You responded to my comment but I'm debating you. How in the hell do you know what I think is fact ,just because you snooped around my page lol. You have no idea what type of training I do or don't have. Point is this find is bogus just like the majority. truth is you were hurt because someone called it and you firmly believe in an inexact science. , so really you seem to be someone whose feelings are hurt easily when someone doesn't agree with your pov
@79dtutt I left one comment under this video months ago and since then I've been sucked back into the discussion over and over again. I think I made the first comment to you but it was only because someone else had pulled me back in. I even hate the intro music on the video, that's how tired I am of this thread. Now you know why I'm getting a chip on my shoulder. Believe what you want, it you think we only had 6,000 years of society than have at it. I'm going to go and bug some racists.
@79dtutt who are involved in the dig site of practicing gutter science. Have you been to the site? Are you trained to excavate ancient sites? It makes no sense that average person would suddenly abandon what the rest of us have accepted as relatively accurate. Who ever introduced you to the 6,000 year historical world view never intended for you to later ignore new discoveries. You treat this whole thing like a religion which is in itself very unscientific.
@fywacia Once again you bring up religion. lol You should know how idiotic you sound since trolled my page. And academia continues to be wrong, you're one of those fools that believe everything another tells them based off your comments. Which makes me the fool for engaging. We'll see how well that works out for you. Thanks again for taking interest in my page. Stick around and you might learn something.
@79dtutt First of all, you can't carbon date rocks. Carbon dating is for organic compounds containing carbon 14 that decays over time. This site was buried which is the sole reason it can be carbon dated without contamination. I'm confident that the experts can handle the science and I'm willing to accept their findings because I have only one agenda and that's to find out what the truth is. You obviously don't want to accept that academia came to a premature conclusion in the past.
After looking at the dating of the sight I am quite skeptical of the dating of the sight. There using lack of evidence (farming tools..etc) as proof that the site is old, along with the fact the site was buried the material used for carbon dating could come from any time in history.
Absolutely rediculous assumptions throughout the documentary. It is necessary to speculate about the origins, meaning, etc of a discovery such as this. But to present the information as fact by the wording you choose is foolish and reckless, or purposeful to push a particular world view/agenda (in which case it is something far worse). Present the find, offer your thoughts as your thoughts, and let the evidence speak for itself.
Incredible and fool-hardy claims for a more recent discovery. This is one of the problems with modern science and discovery. Stop projecting your desires/wishes of what you believe onto what you have found. Broaden your thinking and let the evidence speak for itself. To say who built this structure is complete foolishness and then to link that to a complete revision of culture understanding for a particular period is the worst sort of fiction.
Unquestionably the builders were advanced but hoping to find ipods or cell phones as proof of it is idiotic. Modern man still drags his knuckles around by comparison .Arranging finely sculpted multi ton monoliths in position takes the combined knowledge of many disciplines . Modern man could try moving one trilithon 1200 ton stone at Baalbeck but he cannot. Being advanced does not equal flat screen tvs or ipods mathematics and other sciences do , not tools that last just a working brain
Whatever... human advanced faster than we had previously thought, back then. No super advanced culture. Were is the evidence for that. Building tech back then? Where are all the metal products, paint colors, infastructure?
THE TRUTH. ARMENIA:THE CRADLE OF CIVILIZATION. GOBEKLI TEPE located in historicARMENIA(ARMENIAN PLATEAU,ARMENIAN HIGHLAND)HOLY ARARAT"WHAT IS TO DAY turkey"THAT IS THE FACT.
IT S THE SAME STORY TOLD IN GOEBEKLI TEPE AS IN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN ABOUT OUR GODS ! there is only 1 true origin of all & that is atlantis (other dimension from where lucifer=serpent ) comes from
Looks like where Noah and his family built a memorial to their god and it depicts all many of the animals (most not of that area in Turkey) that were saved on the Ark.
The crap music ruins this vid. I'm outta here. Where is you sense of taste? Beyond that: typical Discovery Channel dreck: move the camera fast, jump from frame to frame, don't let your eyes rest for too long to take in the significance of what you're seeing. The sad thing is that, most people are okay with this schlock approach. They think it's "history" or "science."
they're watching a video about a 12 thousand year old find and arguing about whose land it was... come on people! kurdish or turkish does not matter a tiny bit here. kurds and turks too will vanish and be forgotten like these people are. Think a little before you write, looks like it belonged to some other people before you even had your languages, and it will belong to some others when your languages will turn to hieroglyphs.
@Green84Lantern urfa is more of an arabic land than a kurdish land, dear Green84Lantern. And kurdish people were sharing the land with other people, it was always as armenian as it was kurdish, as persian as it was turkish, as arab as it was greek.
The music is terrible. All those who think aliens' coming suffer inferiority complex due to the stupid teaching of religion: God. Humans have been living, building, dying, becoming extinct & resurging. This is not the last. There will be others yet to be discovered. Superior Technology than today is hogwash. Ingenuity of humans: yes. I am the outcome with responsibility: leave this place in a better shape for our future generations.NO ALIENS only HUMANS.
the sad part about discoveries like this, which are, by all means extraordinary everybody i try and tell doesn't even seem to care. How could you not care about something like this? because it has nothing to do with the bible? it's confusing lol.
If only you knew. This is not the BEGINNING of a culture. THIS IS THE END! these are the remnants of Atlantis. they fled their civilization as it was being destroyed. we are their ancestors.
This was not built by hunters or gatherers, or any combination of the two concepts. Those who claim such should try being one or both for a year and the obvious will dawn on them quickly. The linear progressive theory must needs be quietly set aside and not used again also, it is utterly bogus. What is so difficult about saying " We were wrong."? Must be an ego thing.
bah! jesus just went back in time to before the world was created and built that so that when his dad (himself) decided to create the world and then make man from dirt his creation would doubt him so the devil (that he created aswell i guess) could influence them witch would give him a reason to destroy mankind for the lulz!
To say that this "was a beginning of a totally new way of living," shows that archeologists may not have learned much from these digs. This shows that sophisticated civilizations are far older than previously thought. The sites that we thought were the earliest evidence of civilization now are not. What makes us think this is the earliest? This just pushes back the clock; but we don't know when it began.
@manumoka hey, come on now, you don't wanna shatter their obsolete, dogmatic paradigm they're desperately clinging to. archeologists like things the way they are, they don't want to rewrite the history books, they've gotten used to the idea of linear history, they don't want to accept that human civilization rises and falls, like everything in our universe. it's a faith they cling to.
There were high civilizations long before ours... there were not stone men, it was a fall from Atlantis's higher levels of consciousness, all part of the plan. Course correction for humanity's developing consciousness.
also absurd is to think they built it without a GOD; humans don't build structures without a HIGHER BELIEF; kind makes you wonder what made humans have great advances, huh? with those bosnian pyramids and more to come out of china; you will have to question all previous beliefs and current explanations by so called "science" which have been lying to us since the creation of "science"; new discoveries will expose PEOPLE'S lies in the name of "science"
The most mysterious aspects of Gobekli Tepe--like why the stones get bigger and better as they get older--were explained in The Urantia Book in 1955, about 40 years before they even discovered this incredibly amazing archaeological site. At UBtheNEWS (.) com there is a report that correlates this discovery with what The Urantia Book says about this period in human history.
You see boys all you need as an archeologist is a shovel and a back ho and when questioned about anything just say maybe this or that and say what a mystery...
and for the right price tell them what they want to hear haha...
Keep in mind that the pyramids in Bosnia are also being dated back to the time when Gobekli Tepe was built. To suggest that hunter gatherers built any of these stone monuments is absurd. These structures were built by advanced cultures that had building technology beyond what we have today. A natural disaster killed them off which is why we have no history of ourselves prior to Sumeria. The world needs to wake up.
@fywacia "These structures were built by advanced cultures that had building technology beyond what we have today." You got that out of this video? Putting two stones on top of each other is beyond the technology of a skyscraper? What am I missing here?
@iamfrankleonard You're missing quite a bit. We currently don't have the logistics nor the technology to replicate the pyramids, Puma Punku, and many other ancient monuments. The largest cut stone ever recorded was 1200 tons, we don't have cranes that can pick that up, let alone quarry it, cut it, and transport it over extreme terrain for long distances. On the other hand we can replicate these monuments only in miniature using diamond tipped bits and CNC milling machines.
@fywacia So who built them? Wouldn't these "advanced cultures" be more improbable explanation? "The world needs to wake up." comment seems to often accompany silly conspiracy theories.
@iamfrankleonard Our ancestors built them prior to the last ice age. Climate change and the Younger Dryas Event are what we currently understand to have been the cause that wiped out civilization. It's taken us nearly 7,000 years to recover from the last ice age and we've made the biggest strides in technology in only the last 200. These people had far longer than that to build a global society with the ability to build these massive monuments.
@iamfrankleonard The problem that we have right now is that we have just started to figure these mysteries out about ourselves. We are also waking up from an age that had us locked into a 6,000 year false view of history based on the Bible, Koran, and the Tora. At one point you could be killed or imprisoned if you stepped out publicly an challenged this way of thinking. So it's natural to be skeptical as we slowly unlock the riddle of our past which we have no written history of.
@iamfrankleonard You also have to understand that once we write our own past history based on what we think we know, there's a resistance to change it as new discoveries emerge. We already have to rewrite our history books to incorporate Gobekli Tepe and the Bosnian pyramids, it's just an ongoing process. What I meant was that people need to wake up from the Biblical time table and realize that our society is very fragile.
@iamfrankleonard it would not take very much to destroy everything that we have built, yet most of us walk around as if everything is permanent and safe from disruption. All we need is one big solar maximum like we had in the 1800's to wipe out our electrical and communication grid worldwide to send us into total chaos, starvation, and death on a mass scale. We have no real preparation for such a calamity, yet we have endless money for war.
@iamfrankleonard That's pretty much what I meant when I said that people need to wake up and accept that such a thing could happen at anytime. There have been at least two genetic bottle necks according to what we know about our DNA that suggests that some event took place in our past to decrease the world's population down to about 3,000. Our history and our race could restart tomorrow just like it has in the past and most of us would die and we've done little to prevent it.
@iamfrankleonard If you really want to discuss this further just pm me. It's difficult to answer questions here with the complexity that we are dealing with. I've been studying this stuff for years and so far we keep finding new ruins that force us to change our understanding of our history every couple of years. Currently there are over 200 underwater cities around the world and many have pyramids and other huge monuments. We are just scratching the surface of the truth.
@iamfrankleonard I just wanted to mention that it would be improbable to say that bronze age masons some how built these huge monuments in stone. If we can go from horse and wagons to the Apollo moon missions in less than 100 years, what do you think we can over tens of thousands of years? Our ancestors had that kind of time on their hands and that to me clearly seems to be the most probable explanation for these ruins. Thank you for the enjoyable discussion.
@iamfrankleonard And regarding these under water cities, most appear to the ancient sea ports built out of huge stones that would be so difficult today to reproduce that it would make little sense for us to attempt even today. Which tells me that they had a way to do it easily and that it was a global phenomena. These ancient ports sank when the seas rose 400 feet from the melting ice of the last ice age. Climate change clearly shapes our history and it shouldn't be taken lightly.
@iamfrankleonard Skeptics can and will claim just about anything because they don't need to, nor are they ever asked to prove their point. But when the real experts such as construction engineers and stone masons where brought in to examine these sites the unified response was that it could no be done with the technology that we currently possess. The majority of these monuments are so precise that they could not be constructed without the use of giant CNC milling machines with diamond bits.
@fywacia Wake up for what??? Come on why cant people just realize that these hunter gathers just use normal man power to erect these absurds tall stones for bullshitness!! We have Jets, airplanes, and lazer technology but will never question how the fuck did we thought up these things up in the last 50 years!! In last 50 years we created so much technology that is almost like godlike... I bet these hunters took 500- 1000 years to built these dumbass things!! And for what ? wheres the relics?
@fywacia maybe more advanced than what your cpable of, but not the majority of todays human population. However plz dont let my comment take away from this amazing discovery... i just had my idiot detector switched on when i read your comment and could'nt resist
@LucVal1 When was the last time you looked it up? So far they have found all sorts of stone work. An underground tunnel system where they found what will soon be considered as the oldest form of ancient writing yet discovered which dates back to the time just before the ice age came to an abrupt end because the tunnels are filled glacier sediment. I hope that you are just behind on the latest developments of that dig site, if not I'm not interested in hearing from sceptics who ignore evidence.
A few weeks ago actually, looked at the videos on youtube, i can't see any evidence of a pyramid except the overall shape of the area. The stonework is not proof of a pyramid, I'm sure there has been people living there once - stonework. These tunnels don't have any structure to them at all, it's just holes in the ground. I Believe in evidence when i see it. You cannot deny that they haven't found anything new since 2007 and that the videos show the same things over and over.
@JuggernautJeep The Younger Dryas Event happened after Gobekli Tepe was burried. The Clovis comet exploded over the North Eastern part of North America causing a breach in a large ice damn that was holding a large inland sea of fresh water which spilled into the North Atlantic. This and other disasters which accompanied it brought an abrupt end to the ice age and the extinction of many species including the mammoth. I recommend researching everything I just mentioned.
@fywacia Your actually trying to tell me a natural disaster , one which had terrific force and power, enough to wipe out entire civilizations, sent a gigantic temple complex underground without a single stone misplaced? lol, well I suppose it's possible, even so, I'll stick with my conclusion for now.
@JuggernautJeep No, I said it was burried before the Younger Dryas Event, meaning what ever culture built it decided to burry it. The cause of the Younger Dryas Event is hypothesised as being caused by a super nova of a distant star which sent cometary debris towards the earth. Perhaps they knew it was coming? If they built these huge monuments in stone with CNC precision, they could certainly look out into space and see that doomsday was coming.
@fywacia the main excavator (Klaus Schmidt) has his own, rather surprising yet convinving ideas about that. It is quite clear that the sanctuary has been built over several hundreds of years, with dozens of rings of figures erected over time. This was probably the spiritual center, the gathering point of the hunting tribes in the Euphrates region. While doing this continous religious service, they actually started civilising, settling, growing crops on site, for the purpose of building it.
I'll rephrase, I agree with Macvarish that they were prbably from the Armenian/Azerbaijan area and so likely to be a highland people and more than likely to have been a black haired race. The area was part of a crossroads that was dominated by a darker indo-european species. Place names and the names of descendent rulers of ancient kingdoms in the area do suggest an eastern origin.
someshinyday 1 day ago
I don't mean to be rude but I get annoyed with the egotistical assumptions on the part of the blue eyed and fair haired that sometimes borders on megalomania.
someshinyday 2 days ago
I would surmise that they were a semitic highland people from the east. There are clues to that fact They were not blue eyed blondes from Germany Mr Schimdt. Get off the site.
someshinyday 2 days ago
It seems obvious to me, that these stone structured had to have been built by earthbenders!!! LOL
cyrax037 2 weeks ago
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baseballbro1000 3 weeks ago
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MrKangaruu 3 weeks ago
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Kurdistans population is 46million. 46million Kurds without a country! Kurds have the oldest history on earth. They came before Turkey or any other country in this planet. Don't you think they deserve to get back what was stolen from them?
xnxxvideo 4 weeks ago 3
The only culture in the world now that practices sky burial are the tibetans
AznWorldMusicLegend 1 month ago
We keep finding evidence that the hunting and gathering "caveman" is a myth. When will actually believe it?
bryonlape 1 month ago
Turkey.. center of civilizations
muratner 1 month ago
@muratner turkey = center of stolen civilizations (from the armenians & greeks)
nuneh 1 month ago
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@nuneh
what you say is true 1199–1375 armenian kingdom was located there..
BUT....
oh wait !! the same area was in Hitits Empire 1180 BC
Lydian Kingdom c. 685 BC – 547 BC
Akkadian Empire c. 2400 BC – c. 2150 BC
Assyrian trading colonies c. 1950 BC – 1750 BC
dude there was 15 empires rule this land before armenian empire ever existed.. I said Turkey because this land is now TURKEY ..! (1221-2012)
your armenian ancient empire is not significant and means nothing ..
just to let you know
muratner 1 month ago
A Kurdish Shepperd found this Place
22bersi 1 month ago
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Project Bluebeam. Research it. It is designed to 'show' that the Bible is wrong. I am an archaeologist and something about this site smells really bad.
ruthamyallan1 1 month ago
Listen up people we we only know what we are alllowed to know,lets face it man will never dicover the moment of creation. We have a planet thats being stripped of its natural resources. We are dooming ourselves and if dont learn to live in Harmony with nature we will destroy ourselves. We need to learn to take care of this planet and to follow the old ways of the wise ones.Humans as I see it need to ban together and create a better world .
SanAntonioTxRepair 1 month ago
the turks weren't even in the caucuses at this time. they were still in asia
this was most likely built by the ancestors of Armenians
armenians are known to be the earliest civilization living in this area (including Ararat)
just think about this,
+ARMENIA was the first christian nation (obviously, religions big with armenians)
+ARMENIANS, assyrians, greeks are known to be the starters of civilization in mesopotamia
+the oldest leather shoe- found in ARMENIA
+this area was stolen from ARMENIA
nuneh 2 months ago 2
@nuneh : as far as anyone can say this predates Armenian occupation of this area and I am no biblical scolar but I am pretty sure Palestine, technically, was the "first christian nation". Mesopotamia's oldest recorded residents were 'Sumerian', a white non-semetic race, unrelated to Assyrians or Babylonians; currently believed to have come into the region from the east.
Armenia require to be recognised as a nation but distorting history does not improve that cause.
theMacvarish 1 month ago
@theMacvarish "Armenia require to be recognised as a nation..."???
friend, i was going to give u a legit comment response, but it seems like ur in need of some basic, basic knowledge before we can start talking about ancient history
there is not a single scholar that argues that the first christian was any nation but ARMENIA.armenia doesn't need newly found recognition as a nation. Armenias one of the 5 oldest nations in the world&the 1st christian nation.
are u purposely sounding ridiculous?
nuneh 1 month ago
@nuneh ; thankyou for lowering yourself to my level. I asked around and it seems that Christianity started in Palestine, as was, apparently the man whom invented it all, was born there. And you, nuneh, obviously, are one of the worlds leading experts, on ancient "nations", so would be rude to point out that there were many tribal states in existance long before "Armenia". You want old, google A-b-o-r-i-g-i-n-a-l, 100,000 years and counting. The rest of us are as children, to them.
theMacvarish 1 month ago
@theMacvarish you asked around? i'd surround myself with more intelligent people, in that case as you seem to think Armenia is in need of recognition to become a state, while it is one of the five oldest countries in all of history.
nuneh 1 month ago
@nuneh : where can I see this list of the " 5 oldest nations in the world" ?
theMacvarish 1 month ago
@theMacvarish
un*int/wcm/webdav/site/armenia/shared/documents/historyofarmenia*pdf
nuneh 1 month ago
@nuneh : thankyou for the pdf. It states that the oldest recorded people in this area were the Hayasa-Azzi,(3,500BC), and that the Armen arrived,( "from the Balkans" ), in 1300BC app. So how can this civilisation be " Armenian" if it predates your ancestors by more than 6,500 years ?
theMacvarish 1 month ago
@theMacvarish look further into it---
who were the Hayasa-Azzi?
Armenians.
We Armenians still call our nation "Hayastan" and we call ourselves "Hayastanci"
nuneh 1 month ago
@nuneh : So tribes who lived here before the arrival of Armenians, were also Armenians ?
theMacvarish 1 month ago
@theMacvarish "It states that the oldest recorded people in this area were the Hayasa-Azzi"
Armenians are a combination of ancient tribes---- Hayasa-Azzi, Urartu... etc.
here, read this:
en*wikipedia*org/wiki/History_of_Armenia
nuneh 1 month ago
@nuneh :I have. I am comfused, Armenia is what then ?
" there was a Bronze Age tribe of the Armens, either identical or, or forming a subset of the Hayasa-Azzi. In this case 'Armenia' would be an ethnonym rather than a toponym".
from a history of your country recommended by Yerevan SU.
theMacvarish 1 month ago
@theMacvarish the modern day Armenians are of the ancient tribes that lived in this area.
the Hayasa-Azzi is just one of those tribes.
do you know of any other group that lived in this area before the Armenians?
nuneh 1 month ago
@nuneh : naming tribes before the written periods is almost impossible. I have found records of an eastern migration into this area but these tribal groups, like those from the south west are defined by the tools or artefacts. There is a site not so far from this one with datings of 23,000 years.
theMacvarish 1 week ago
@theMacvarish human existence has persisted for thousands of years... thats a fact.
but the center of civilization was in fact in this area and it is another FACT that the Armenians were the first civilization (not just another nomadic group) to live in this area.
nomadic people would not invest in building something this sophisticated if they are only going to reside there for a week or so.
Armenians were the first sedentary civilization in this area according to all historical writings.
nuneh 1 week ago
@nuneh : As you wish nuneh. Although there is nothing to identify whom ever built this as belonging to any, particular, group; it is Armenian. And we will ignore all other predating evidence of civilisation and credit all to Armenia. Fire, stone, bronze and iron all Armenian. Might as well add pyramids, henges, cave painting, cuniform, shoes, maths, astronomy, the internal combustion engine and tv; all Armenian. Now can you, please, stop shouting at us ?
theMacvarish 1 week ago
@theMacvarish you are being ridiculous... and no one every insisted that this is 100% Armenian built.
I said, and you can quote me... that this area's first sedentary civilization were the Armenians so it will likely be their ancestors that built this.
Many of the earliest civilizations (Assyrian, Babylonian, Hitites, Armenians, Egyptians, Chinese, Ethiopians...) have all made major contributions. We should be able to talk freely about each & give credit where its due.
Peace.
nuneh 1 week ago
@theMacvarish
no they were not armenian ofcourse
they were assyrian.. lydian. akkadian people
muratner 1 month ago
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theMacvarish 1 month ago
@nuneh ARE YOU STUPID !!! THE KURDS ARE THE OLDEST FOLK OF THE WORLD NOT THE ARMENIA !!!
22bersi 1 month ago
@22bersi thank you for showing how civilized modern kurds are--- i can only imagine how civilized kurds were thousands of years ago.
tell me, insulting proud kurd, where have the kurds historically been settled and when was their first mention in literature?
nuneh 1 month ago
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@nuneh
what you say is true 1199–1375 armenian kingdom was located there..
BUT....
oh wait !! the same area was in Hitits Empire 1180 BC
Lydian Kingdom c. 685 BC – 547 BC
Akkadian Empire c. 2400 BC – c. 2150 BC
Assyrian trading colonies c. 1950 BC – 1750 BC
dude there was 15 empires rules this land before armenian empire.. I said Turkey because this land is now TURKEY ..! (1221-2012)
your armenian ancient empire is not significant and means nothing .. just to let you know
muratner 1 month ago
@nuneh yo what the hell are u talking about that time where were no armenia and mangols man. they found this in southeastren not even in turkey in kurdstan blood and mesopotamya was kurdstan man what the hell are you talking about. that time there were no armenian. we had so many empires for example mades . babylonian. summorian. parthian. and our realigion was zartosht before man. and its not even in turkey a kurdish shepard found this man every one in the world stolen kurdish history blood.
beki150 1 month ago
@beki150 shut the fuck up moron, mede parthian babylonian and sumerian all came from IRAN, parthian are IRANIAN tribe, median are IRANIAN tribe, EVEN KURDISH IDIOTS LIKE YOU, are IRANIAN tribe.
we are the original people in that land
WinkyMaeve 4 weeks ago
@WinkyMaeve u shut the fuk up mate.they just say iranian to everything.but im afraid they weren.t iranian.they were kurds.nd the real iranian ppl are kurds not persian arab.which they called pars.so get lost u fucker.they all were kurds.down for iran,iraq nd turky.har bji kurdistan.zende bad kurdistan.
beki150 3 weeks ago
@beki150 "YO" you sound a bit foolish.
this site was found on land that turkey stole from Armenia.
the first nation to be called Armenia/Hayk/Hayastan was in 2492 BC.... even before that, Armenian tribes lived in the area. tribes include the Hayasa-Azzi....
like i asked.... DO YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO LIVED ON THIS LAND before THE ARMENIANS?????????
no.
nuneh 3 weeks ago
@nuneh hey blodd u listen up man.we have kurds in armania.so what r u talking about?nd also it might be armanian kurds.we dont no.but all i no lots of ppl chatting shit to be honest.like parsian nd arabs or turks.they dont even no where they come from.nd they just stealing kurdish history.nd this is says mesopotamia.nd they were kurds i no that for sure.in fucking arabic language they call it bainon nahrain.so yeh.wburself man?do u no any1 who lived there?if u say yes thats bullshit.
beki150 3 weeks ago
@beki150 cos this was about 12000 years ago.so no one knows.nd i dont believe english sciectist at all mate.like they say we came from black ppl.ppl just say shit.but kurdistan is so old even more than that.we have a city called rabat in west kurdistan.nd they found a big city under the ground which was from thousend years ago.the city name was called mossasir mate.is the land of zardasht ppl.but unfortunatly ppl just trying shit in this world.do u even no y there's no kurdistan?
beki150 3 weeks ago
@beki150 cos everything in these for countries u see now.were belongs to the kurds.trust me.fuck islam.cos they just shit nd stealer.nd they made haram and halal for stupid ppl nowwe have books we no everything.we'r just simple ppl.thats why we'r like that now.kurds r the strongest ppl ever.arabs mangols nd pars r fucking gay man.down for them.
beki150 3 weeks ago
@nuneh land was stolen from Armenia, but at that time there was many iranian tribes in that area as well
WinkyMaeve 4 weeks ago
@WinkyMaeve iranians have always been neighbors of Armenians... no one's denying that, nor would i ever even attempt to do such a thing.
just saying that the earliest known inhabitants of this land were Armenians.
nuneh 3 weeks ago
I do hope they'll be making efforts to treat the stone to protect it from erosion, now that they've uncovered it. The only reason we have these artifacts, in such pristine shape, is because they were buried for so long.
gsmonks 2 months ago
Why do these so called historians etc always say that anything found must be a frigging temple or religeous artifact
malvinaps1 2 months ago
@malvinaps1 If i was to change from a nomadic life to a settled one the first thing I would see to would be protection. I agree it seems strange that everything has to be religous, that would be a secondary thing for me.
TheJimmax 2 months ago
I doubt very much this site was constructed by hunter/gatherers. It does not resemble a temple or religious site, either. The mounds of garbage found indicate that people lived in this place. Civilisations never exist in a vacuum. Obviously there are others waiting to be found. Examples like this are ALWAYS the result of the sharing of cultural ideas. Anyone who knows taxonomy knows that things don't just pop into existence.
gsmonks 2 months ago
@gsmonks Yes, it seems hard to believe. However, after more than a decade of excavation, no evidence of occupation has been found, e.g. tools, hearths, utensils, homes, graves... etc. More than 100,000 fragments of animal & bird bones have been recovered from the site. Many show signs of butchering and cooking (cut marks etc.). To date, none have come from a domesticated animal. All are from wild animals. Associated cereal remains are also of wild varieties(emmer & einkorn), not domestic.
mombaassa 2 months ago
@mombaassa Amazing! One can only wonder if other similar sites will yet be found.
gsmonks 2 months ago
I'd check bible talk at the door if I was you. This predates the bible. Judaism and Christianity hadn't been invented when this structure was built.
gsmonks 2 months ago
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wow ,most advanced,oldest,pre dates mesopotamia by 7000 years!!! doubled human history,19 foot pillars.Did I mention most Advanced! Not a single shred of evidence to prove any of that just a bunch of 19 foot pillars with animal carvings.Wheres the writing,or proof of anything other than speculation if it was that (ADVANCED). We uncovered an ancient zoo folks probably from the mesopotamian period.
Mesopotamian100 2 months ago
Amazing!
zadeh79 2 months ago
Thanks for the info, I watched this find for years, expecting it was a hoax or the C14 was thrown off by something. The thing that stuck out as strange to me was the uncommon look of the animals. Glad to now think it's legit. Seems like more answers lead to bigger questions. Such is the nature of discovery! : )
Jones60100 3 months ago
I find it very hard to believe that this site was built by hunter/gatherers. I think we are trying our predetermined rational that humans at the time were hunter/gatherers therefore they had to be the ones that built this place. I totally disagree. I believe it was constructed by a yet unknown race of beings.
CTHOM12 3 months ago
@CTHOM12 Cthulhu !!
WaterPocket 3 months ago
@CTHOM12 it was built by villagers..........
millerpeade 2 months ago
I've read that these sights were buried on purpose. Wonder why?
Jones60100 3 months ago
@Jones60100 It wasn't buried all in one go. The site was in use for about 2500 years but at any one given time it was quite small. As time progressed and new structures were built the old ones were buried. This culture often did the same thing with their houses. The curious thing is that the quality of the build declined with time- this is odd but it may have something to do with the change from nomadic to settled life and fewer nomadic people following tradition hunter lives- culture changes
outsidelight1 3 months ago
"hunters". Afro Semitic occult nonsense. The territory was ancient Calendar built on the soil. Every "stone" pillar represented its name of the constellation
VendPrekmurec 3 months ago
all world know turk kom from mongolia and southern turkey are kurdistan sanliurfa is land of kurds kurd are oldest land in mesopotamia plz dont stol history from kurds.
PersianKingKurd 4 months ago
@NassCassidy I do think they said the estimated date was around 10-12k yrs ago...
xxdjsethxx 5 months ago
They aren't twice as old as the Pyramids though are they because noone accepts the horse ship the Egyptologists let spew out of the hole on their faces. It was at least 10,000 BC unless the Sphinx takes hidden showers we don't know about. The fact is, what we get told is horseshit, what we are educated or think we know is lies. Our whole Chronology needs RE-WRITTEN. Our Ancients lived through an astronomical 'Golden Age' going back to possibly 33,000-40,000 BC. Were so fickle its disgusting.
Kingwillis10 1 month ago
bull shit bbc crap never giving the truth in full, look up Gobekli Tepep for urselfs the site is estimated to be at least 12000 yrs old if not older long b4 we where even capable of building or writing, erm so we are told, there has never been so much as a tool even found at the site or anything about the people who constructed it. Its about time we were given our world history in truth, if only stone could talk lol
NassCassidy 5 months ago
@NassCassidy This was an excellent BBC film. This section of the film was superb. You can visit if you want.
outsidelight1 4 months ago
@outsidelight1 thanx for that I will look that up, happy hunting to us both lol :)
NassCassidy 4 months ago
kurdish land
kurd12341 5 months ago
hunter gatherers did this hahahaha only a complete buffoon would believe that !!
914light 5 months ago
who put this knot head in charge of this project ??? this video suckssssssssssssssss
914light 5 months ago
No body knows the real name of this civilazation and they called gobekli tepe name of this town ,is not it incredible ? it is still mystery and there is no record from this civilization anywhere wowwww!
yozgatlicaner 5 months ago 4
@yozgatlicaner oh but there is..the Bible gives detail of the Garden os Eden..it fits perfect to the Bible and all the animals carved into the rock is like a library of Gods own..you people who doubt and moch your creator..he promised to unveil all that has been hidden..we know where Noahs Ark is at,The Ark of the Covenant,The exact parting of the Red sea etc..the City of Sodom & Gamora ...everything is being unveiled just as the Bible told us..
Projectinsighter 3 months ago
bullshit
79dtutt 5 months ago
@79dtutt "bullshit". I'm sorry but the Bible was incorrect about the age of human civilizations, the Earth, and our history. I know it's hard for you to take but hey, it's just an ancient book of allegory. It's either that or you treat the outdated historic world view that is subject to change based on our newest discoveries as some sort of religious dogma. In that case you won't be able to accept the carbon dating data on this ancient site. That would be kind of tragic for you don't you think?
fywacia 5 months ago
@fywacia I don't give a shit about the bible,or any religious dogma for that matter. carbon dating is a guess not fact. When you attack someones opinion it's best to know who the hell the you are attacking in the first place. Just because something old is discovered doesn't make it the oldest just because you or someone else wants it to be. It's bullshit as I said before. Thanks
79dtutt 5 months ago
@79dtutt Theology before science, I see. "Just because something old is discovered doesn't make it the oldest just because you or someone else wants it to be". You're right, that's why I go by carbon dating. The oldest discoveries that you have accepted as fact have now been replaced with even older ones. And they aren't getting any younger because you can't accept the science that backs up the dating of the dig site. It looks like you contradicted yourself and created your own dogma.
fywacia 5 months ago
@fywacia No it doesn't. I do know that you sound like a complete idiot for for putting faith in something that isn't even 50% accurate. I could pick up a rock outside and come back with 5 or 10 different dates of origin. Why is it that you keep trying to assign me to some religious based way of thinking? It's you that holds firm to the idea that this vid proves something that you hold in high esteem. When it does nothing more than add to the confusion. Personal agenda?
79dtutt 5 months ago
@79dtutt It's because the only reason that you are debating me over carbon dating is because this recent find contracts your previous world view and you can't accept it. You have immediately assumed without any training or factual data that this dig site has been incorrectly dated. It makes no sense, why aren't you out there poking your stick at other sites that have been carbon dated? You seem to accept everything else but then when something new comes along you accuse those....
fywacia 5 months ago
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79dtutt 5 months ago
@fywacia LOL are you serious. You responded to my comment but I'm debating you. How in the hell do you know what I think is fact ,just because you snooped around my page lol. You have no idea what type of training I do or don't have. Point is this find is bogus just like the majority. truth is you were hurt because someone called it and you firmly believe in an inexact science. , so really you seem to be someone whose feelings are hurt easily when someone doesn't agree with your pov
79dtutt 5 months ago
@79dtutt I left one comment under this video months ago and since then I've been sucked back into the discussion over and over again. I think I made the first comment to you but it was only because someone else had pulled me back in. I even hate the intro music on the video, that's how tired I am of this thread. Now you know why I'm getting a chip on my shoulder. Believe what you want, it you think we only had 6,000 years of society than have at it. I'm going to go and bug some racists.
fywacia 5 months ago
@79dtutt who are involved in the dig site of practicing gutter science. Have you been to the site? Are you trained to excavate ancient sites? It makes no sense that average person would suddenly abandon what the rest of us have accepted as relatively accurate. Who ever introduced you to the 6,000 year historical world view never intended for you to later ignore new discoveries. You treat this whole thing like a religion which is in itself very unscientific.
fywacia 5 months ago
@fywacia Once again you bring up religion. lol You should know how idiotic you sound since trolled my page. And academia continues to be wrong, you're one of those fools that believe everything another tells them based off your comments. Which makes me the fool for engaging. We'll see how well that works out for you. Thanks again for taking interest in my page. Stick around and you might learn something.
79dtutt 5 months ago
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79dtutt 5 months ago
@79dtutt First of all, you can't carbon date rocks. Carbon dating is for organic compounds containing carbon 14 that decays over time. This site was buried which is the sole reason it can be carbon dated without contamination. I'm confident that the experts can handle the science and I'm willing to accept their findings because I have only one agenda and that's to find out what the truth is. You obviously don't want to accept that academia came to a premature conclusion in the past.
fywacia 5 months ago
@fywacia of course not , sarcasm. Ever heard of it.
79dtutt 5 months ago
can anyone find me the pics of the flint spears excavated from the site ?
jthowery 5 months ago
After looking at the dating of the sight I am quite skeptical of the dating of the sight. There using lack of evidence (farming tools..etc) as proof that the site is old, along with the fact the site was buried the material used for carbon dating could come from any time in history.
smoothpeople33 5 months ago
Nice butt!!!
cdubsell 5 months ago
Someone stepped on some Indian lady's foot at 4:00
Titantron9000 6 months ago
Absolutely rediculous assumptions throughout the documentary. It is necessary to speculate about the origins, meaning, etc of a discovery such as this. But to present the information as fact by the wording you choose is foolish and reckless, or purposeful to push a particular world view/agenda (in which case it is something far worse). Present the find, offer your thoughts as your thoughts, and let the evidence speak for itself.
MrLeftfoot7 6 months ago
Incredible and fool-hardy claims for a more recent discovery. This is one of the problems with modern science and discovery. Stop projecting your desires/wishes of what you believe onto what you have found. Broaden your thinking and let the evidence speak for itself. To say who built this structure is complete foolishness and then to link that to a complete revision of culture understanding for a particular period is the worst sort of fiction.
MrLeftfoot7 6 months ago
Unquestionably the builders were advanced but hoping to find ipods or cell phones as proof of it is idiotic. Modern man still drags his knuckles around by comparison .Arranging finely sculpted multi ton monoliths in position takes the combined knowledge of many disciplines . Modern man could try moving one trilithon 1200 ton stone at Baalbeck but he cannot. Being advanced does not equal flat screen tvs or ipods mathematics and other sciences do , not tools that last just a working brain
sannite16 6 months ago
Whatever... human advanced faster than we had previously thought, back then. No super advanced culture. Were is the evidence for that. Building tech back then? Where are all the metal products, paint colors, infastructure?
nashkita77 6 months ago
THE TRUTH. ARMENIA:THE CRADLE OF CIVILIZATION. GOBEKLI TEPE located in historicARMENIA(ARMENIAN PLATEAU,ARMENIAN HIGHLAND)HOLY ARARAT"WHAT IS TO DAY turkey"THAT IS THE FACT.
budamage 6 months ago
IT S THE SAME STORY TOLD IN GOEBEKLI TEPE AS IN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN ABOUT OUR GODS ! there is only 1 true origin of all & that is atlantis (other dimension from where lucifer=serpent ) comes from
Burkard 6 months ago
Looks like where Noah and his family built a memorial to their god and it depicts all many of the animals (most not of that area in Turkey) that were saved on the Ark.
shanegibby 7 months ago
Its Kurd land ...
HawreKoyi1 7 months ago
@HawreKoyi1 u wish, kurds came form india, they flocked into southern Turkey form IRAQ LATER, IN The LAST 80 YEARS.
AntiKyrgyz 6 months ago
Holy crap, that music! It almost made my eyeballs explode. That is the worst music to use for what could have been an interesting video.
I have to go wash myself off now. That music made me feel dirty.
tinjarir 7 months ago
The crap music ruins this vid. I'm outta here. Where is you sense of taste? Beyond that: typical Discovery Channel dreck: move the camera fast, jump from frame to frame, don't let your eyes rest for too long to take in the significance of what you're seeing. The sad thing is that, most people are okay with this schlock approach. They think it's "history" or "science."
bixntram 7 months ago
Girê Navokê
aram34 7 months ago
Thank you |
misterbrancis 7 months ago
amazing, thanks for posting
gr8light 7 months ago
they're watching a video about a 12 thousand year old find and arguing about whose land it was... come on people! kurdish or turkish does not matter a tiny bit here. kurds and turks too will vanish and be forgotten like these people are. Think a little before you write, looks like it belonged to some other people before you even had your languages, and it will belong to some others when your languages will turn to hieroglyphs.
itubeyoutubewetube 7 months ago
Southeast Turkey is Kurdish land
Green84Lantern 8 months ago
@Green84Lantern urfa is more of an arabic land than a kurdish land, dear Green84Lantern. And kurdish people were sharing the land with other people, it was always as armenian as it was kurdish, as persian as it was turkish, as arab as it was greek.
itubeyoutubewetube 7 months ago
THIS MUSIC IS LAME.
louiebohan 8 months ago
THIS MUSIC IS LAME.
louiebohan 8 months ago
not türke kurdland
nesenstaub5 8 months ago
The music is terrible. All those who think aliens' coming suffer inferiority complex due to the stupid teaching of religion: God. Humans have been living, building, dying, becoming extinct & resurging. This is not the last. There will be others yet to be discovered. Superior Technology than today is hogwash. Ingenuity of humans: yes. I am the outcome with responsibility: leave this place in a better shape for our future generations.NO ALIENS only HUMANS.
amoralis123 8 months ago
Great video, well put together and informative. Thanks dude!
albo181 9 months ago
My point that archeology, as any official science, is Imperios
Oriented, making idiots out of humans and their ansestors.
The most ancient geneticly people have about 20,000,000
Years of evolution, not Neanderthal "gumus". Who knows
How many times cataclizms of nature, or evil of imperios,
Primitive minds, destroyed and let us re-made the World.
Also look: WorldFreedomAndTruth.info - for reference.
Crossbearershvili 9 months ago
Obviously our ancestors were not as dumb as we assumed them to be.
kapplejacks22 9 months ago
Glad there is volume control :)
theman2720 9 months ago
the sad part about discoveries like this, which are, by all means extraordinary everybody i try and tell doesn't even seem to care. How could you not care about something like this? because it has nothing to do with the bible? it's confusing lol.
Ssddftw 9 months ago
@Ssddftw
Humans simplify it to hypocricy. They get themselves a place in society,
Prize their superiors in ranks, with an emperor at the top of the food chain
And than limmit his ansestry to a simple imperial line - the Quin, the Holly
German Roman Empire, the Roman emperors, The Greek Emperors,
The Old Egypt Kings - to go further back is dangerous - 12,000,000
Ago pre-Georgians going through Anatolia? No way, they'll rather
Ask Russian liers to forge fable about Hachik-Adyga-Emperor.
Crossbearershvili 9 months ago
atheist this is definitely not a worshipping temple to many detail said other wise !
MrFlyea 10 months ago
many trolls about.........
xxdjsethxx 10 months ago 2
at 7:12 they got some nice drilled. Idk what kind of rock they used but they would certainly need some hard stone, and even harder to shape it.
ZJLange12 10 months ago
Fast forward to 1:50 the intro is gay and unnecessary
Tackdriver4000 10 months ago 37
@Tackdriver4000 shut yer hole phaggot
thoostorm4 6 months ago
If only you knew. This is not the BEGINNING of a culture. THIS IS THE END! these are the remnants of Atlantis. they fled their civilization as it was being destroyed. we are their ancestors.
Enlightenwithlove 10 months ago
This was not built by hunters or gatherers, or any combination of the two concepts. Those who claim such should try being one or both for a year and the obvious will dawn on them quickly. The linear progressive theory must needs be quietly set aside and not used again also, it is utterly bogus. What is so difficult about saying " We were wrong."? Must be an ego thing.
barto11000 10 months ago
I love it! Outstanding!
jaimesald 10 months ago
What makes this a temple? Proof? Maybe it was just a fancy house. Maybe it was a community center, or a ancient night club.
If there is an abundance of food, then people have a lot of time to create art, for no other reason than they have nothing better to do.
emilnomel2009 11 months ago
In what way does the information support an atheist paradigm?
mulg1 11 months ago
Faced with the abilities of humanity, we are also besieged with the litany of
superstitious clap trap about temples, priests, and medieval nonsense that
have made sure humans can't achieve their real potential.
The best way to view this is as something you know nothing about which is a
marvel. Trying to fit it into a narrower viewpoint just makes you less in comparison
to these builders.
tyrbolo 11 months ago
WHY DO YOU HATE YOURSELF?. LOL
EminemDirtyDozen 11 months ago
bah! jesus just went back in time to before the world was created and built that so that when his dad (himself) decided to create the world and then make man from dirt his creation would doubt him so the devil (that he created aswell i guess) could influence them witch would give him a reason to destroy mankind for the lulz!
xkingcutx 11 months ago
To say that this "was a beginning of a totally new way of living," shows that archeologists may not have learned much from these digs. This shows that sophisticated civilizations are far older than previously thought. The sites that we thought were the earliest evidence of civilization now are not. What makes us think this is the earliest? This just pushes back the clock; but we don't know when it began.
manumoka 11 months ago
@manumoka hey, come on now, you don't wanna shatter their obsolete, dogmatic paradigm they're desperately clinging to. archeologists like things the way they are, they don't want to rewrite the history books, they've gotten used to the idea of linear history, they don't want to accept that human civilization rises and falls, like everything in our universe. it's a faith they cling to.
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chopin999 1 year ago
How it it just an old building in Turkey.
jeditight 1 year ago
There were high civilizations long before ours... there were not stone men, it was a fall from Atlantis's higher levels of consciousness, all part of the plan. Course correction for humanity's developing consciousness.
frantastic2012 1 year ago
Gobekli Tepe is the world’s first temple. “First came the temple, then the city,” spoke Dr. Schmit about the origins of human civilization.
tumordick 1 year ago
also absurd is to think they built it without a GOD; humans don't build structures without a HIGHER BELIEF; kind makes you wonder what made humans have great advances, huh? with those bosnian pyramids and more to come out of china; you will have to question all previous beliefs and current explanations by so called "science" which have been lying to us since the creation of "science"; new discoveries will expose PEOPLE'S lies in the name of "science"
tumordick 1 year ago
its very cool , but kinda of freaky that it was filled in on purpose...just saying....
bcb72276 1 year ago
The most mysterious aspects of Gobekli Tepe--like why the stones get bigger and better as they get older--were explained in The Urantia Book in 1955, about 40 years before they even discovered this incredibly amazing archaeological site. At UBtheNEWS (.) com there is a report that correlates this discovery with what The Urantia Book says about this period in human history.
UBtheNEWS 1 year ago
You see boys all you need as an archeologist is a shovel and a back ho and when questioned about anything just say maybe this or that and say what a mystery...
and for the right price tell them what they want to hear haha...
AkaylaXX 1 year ago
Keep in mind that the pyramids in Bosnia are also being dated back to the time when Gobekli Tepe was built. To suggest that hunter gatherers built any of these stone monuments is absurd. These structures were built by advanced cultures that had building technology beyond what we have today. A natural disaster killed them off which is why we have no history of ourselves prior to Sumeria. The world needs to wake up.
fywacia 1 year ago 20
@fywacia "These structures were built by advanced cultures that had building technology beyond what we have today." You got that out of this video? Putting two stones on top of each other is beyond the technology of a skyscraper? What am I missing here?
iamfrankleonard 1 year ago
@iamfrankleonard You're missing quite a bit. We currently don't have the logistics nor the technology to replicate the pyramids, Puma Punku, and many other ancient monuments. The largest cut stone ever recorded was 1200 tons, we don't have cranes that can pick that up, let alone quarry it, cut it, and transport it over extreme terrain for long distances. On the other hand we can replicate these monuments only in miniature using diamond tipped bits and CNC milling machines.
fywacia 1 year ago
@fywacia So who built them? Wouldn't these "advanced cultures" be more improbable explanation? "The world needs to wake up." comment seems to often accompany silly conspiracy theories.
iamfrankleonard 1 year ago
@iamfrankleonard Our ancestors built them prior to the last ice age. Climate change and the Younger Dryas Event are what we currently understand to have been the cause that wiped out civilization. It's taken us nearly 7,000 years to recover from the last ice age and we've made the biggest strides in technology in only the last 200. These people had far longer than that to build a global society with the ability to build these massive monuments.
fywacia 1 year ago
@iamfrankleonard The problem that we have right now is that we have just started to figure these mysteries out about ourselves. We are also waking up from an age that had us locked into a 6,000 year false view of history based on the Bible, Koran, and the Tora. At one point you could be killed or imprisoned if you stepped out publicly an challenged this way of thinking. So it's natural to be skeptical as we slowly unlock the riddle of our past which we have no written history of.
fywacia 1 year ago
@iamfrankleonard You also have to understand that once we write our own past history based on what we think we know, there's a resistance to change it as new discoveries emerge. We already have to rewrite our history books to incorporate Gobekli Tepe and the Bosnian pyramids, it's just an ongoing process. What I meant was that people need to wake up from the Biblical time table and realize that our society is very fragile.
fywacia 1 year ago
@iamfrankleonard it would not take very much to destroy everything that we have built, yet most of us walk around as if everything is permanent and safe from disruption. All we need is one big solar maximum like we had in the 1800's to wipe out our electrical and communication grid worldwide to send us into total chaos, starvation, and death on a mass scale. We have no real preparation for such a calamity, yet we have endless money for war.
fywacia 1 year ago
@iamfrankleonard That's pretty much what I meant when I said that people need to wake up and accept that such a thing could happen at anytime. There have been at least two genetic bottle necks according to what we know about our DNA that suggests that some event took place in our past to decrease the world's population down to about 3,000. Our history and our race could restart tomorrow just like it has in the past and most of us would die and we've done little to prevent it.
fywacia 1 year ago
@iamfrankleonard If you really want to discuss this further just pm me. It's difficult to answer questions here with the complexity that we are dealing with. I've been studying this stuff for years and so far we keep finding new ruins that force us to change our understanding of our history every couple of years. Currently there are over 200 underwater cities around the world and many have pyramids and other huge monuments. We are just scratching the surface of the truth.
fywacia 1 year ago
@iamfrankleonard I just wanted to mention that it would be improbable to say that bronze age masons some how built these huge monuments in stone. If we can go from horse and wagons to the Apollo moon missions in less than 100 years, what do you think we can over tens of thousands of years? Our ancestors had that kind of time on their hands and that to me clearly seems to be the most probable explanation for these ruins. Thank you for the enjoyable discussion.
fywacia 1 year ago
@iamfrankleonard And regarding these under water cities, most appear to the ancient sea ports built out of huge stones that would be so difficult today to reproduce that it would make little sense for us to attempt even today. Which tells me that they had a way to do it easily and that it was a global phenomena. These ancient ports sank when the seas rose 400 feet from the melting ice of the last ice age. Climate change clearly shapes our history and it shouldn't be taken lightly.
fywacia 1 year ago
@iamfrankleonard Skeptics can and will claim just about anything because they don't need to, nor are they ever asked to prove their point. But when the real experts such as construction engineers and stone masons where brought in to examine these sites the unified response was that it could no be done with the technology that we currently possess. The majority of these monuments are so precise that they could not be constructed without the use of giant CNC milling machines with diamond bits.
fywacia 1 year ago
@fywacia what you said
bcb72276 1 year ago
@fywacia Wake up for what??? Come on why cant people just realize that these hunter gathers just use normal man power to erect these absurds tall stones for bullshitness!! We have Jets, airplanes, and lazer technology but will never question how the fuck did we thought up these things up in the last 50 years!! In last 50 years we created so much technology that is almost like godlike... I bet these hunters took 500- 1000 years to built these dumbass things!! And for what ? wheres the relics?
XXXXNanoXXXxxx 1 year ago
@fywacia maybe more advanced than what your cpable of, but not the majority of todays human population. However plz dont let my comment take away from this amazing discovery... i just had my idiot detector switched on when i read your comment and could'nt resist
Headoffury 1 year ago
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freshprince9690 1 year ago
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@fywacia technology way past ours... those stones are pretty shiney
freshprince9690 1 year ago
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@fywacia technology way past ours... those stones are pretty shinny
freshprince9690 1 year ago
@fywacia I like your theory that to me sound more realistic .
Soooooooooo True
EminemDirtyDozen 11 months ago
@fywacia
There is no proof of the pyramids in Bosnia, years of digging and still nothing.
LucVal1 10 months ago
@LucVal1 When was the last time you looked it up? So far they have found all sorts of stone work. An underground tunnel system where they found what will soon be considered as the oldest form of ancient writing yet discovered which dates back to the time just before the ice age came to an abrupt end because the tunnels are filled glacier sediment. I hope that you are just behind on the latest developments of that dig site, if not I'm not interested in hearing from sceptics who ignore evidence.
fywacia 10 months ago
@fywacia
A few weeks ago actually, looked at the videos on youtube, i can't see any evidence of a pyramid except the overall shape of the area. The stonework is not proof of a pyramid, I'm sure there has been people living there once - stonework. These tunnels don't have any structure to them at all, it's just holes in the ground. I Believe in evidence when i see it. You cannot deny that they haven't found anything new since 2007 and that the videos show the same things over and over.
LucVal1 10 months ago
@fywacia I totally agree!
Knosticdamus 9 months ago
@fywacia If a natural disaster had killed them who was left to bury the entire complex underground?
JuggernautJeep 9 months ago
@JuggernautJeep The Younger Dryas Event happened after Gobekli Tepe was burried. The Clovis comet exploded over the North Eastern part of North America causing a breach in a large ice damn that was holding a large inland sea of fresh water which spilled into the North Atlantic. This and other disasters which accompanied it brought an abrupt end to the ice age and the extinction of many species including the mammoth. I recommend researching everything I just mentioned.
fywacia 9 months ago
@fywacia Your actually trying to tell me a natural disaster , one which had terrific force and power, enough to wipe out entire civilizations, sent a gigantic temple complex underground without a single stone misplaced? lol, well I suppose it's possible, even so, I'll stick with my conclusion for now.
JuggernautJeep 9 months ago
@JuggernautJeep No, I said it was burried before the Younger Dryas Event, meaning what ever culture built it decided to burry it. The cause of the Younger Dryas Event is hypothesised as being caused by a super nova of a distant star which sent cometary debris towards the earth. Perhaps they knew it was coming? If they built these huge monuments in stone with CNC precision, they could certainly look out into space and see that doomsday was coming.
fywacia 9 months ago
@fywacia Ahh, gotchya.
JuggernautJeep 9 months ago
@fywacia the main excavator (Klaus Schmidt) has his own, rather surprising yet convinving ideas about that. It is quite clear that the sanctuary has been built over several hundreds of years, with dozens of rings of figures erected over time. This was probably the spiritual center, the gathering point of the hunting tribes in the Euphrates region. While doing this continous religious service, they actually started civilising, settling, growing crops on site, for the purpose of building it.
decnet100 9 months ago