You sir the Court is the main perp of this law. It comes from cases although outcome seems just the place for the decisions was not in Supreme Court. Moreover ground work for future cases is set that may not have the same nice outcome. Brown v. Board of Education may be nice it violates the rule of law, 'Constitution.'
The Court had not right 2 manufacture the law by usurpation. Those justices are more harmful to the United States than the so-called terrorists. They are the real terror now
Olbermann makes a good point, there have been many notorious violations of Constitutional rights in the past, but none where the Congress expressly voted against Constitutional rights AND Habeas Corpus, or expressly gave only the President this kind of power. At least I can't think of one.
As a conservative I think Olbermann is a loon. The libertarian in me, the libertarian in me that voted Ron Paul, agrees with every word he says though.
averagegal. Answer. Is torture of an Islamofascist bent on glory for death and suicide going to be pruductive? Is giving a future tyrant a 2nd court system American? What if a Lib got hold of those powers? Save the Levin, Limbaugh jumbalia. Wikipedia the document, and if you're more gifted than Aristotle, enlighten us. 2 weeks ago Congress & the SC granted these new rights. The rights are 2 weeks old. These rights were granted in consequence of MCA. MCA raped UN. Bush went nuts. Admit it.
An American citizen to be made subject to the MCA would have to actually appear on the battlefield to provide proof in order for the military to detain. The Bush admin. in 2004 made it clear that it would not oppose any habeas petition from an American citizen. Americans were not going to be detained at GITMO.
These 270 are aliens captured on foreign battlefields and adjudicated as POWs by 2004 at the latest.
They had 3 years to appeal through the DTA and sat on their rights.
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9/11 happened but Libs have decided instead to side with AlQaeda against the US as evidenced here.
Speaking of Lies: Libs claiming that they had a 9/11 mindset as in just before 9/11. It's just the cover story to attack Bush for 9/11.
They never had it before 9/11 (the Jamie Gorelick Wall to disrupt counterterrorism cooperation and the "Let's just arrest them after they kill Americans rather than confront them on the battlefield abroad" policy) and this enemy combatant hysteria propaganda.
how can our fucking president get away with this i'm getting tired of the congress not doing anything their not doing there jobs that was to take care of bush dam nwo
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You are so ignorant.
The Congress and the President did devise an effective detainee system in time of war that provided far more habeas rights than ever provided for lawful enemy combatants let alone unlawful combatants, terrorists.
Unlawful combatants, under the laws of war, can be shot on site when captured on the battlefield.
averageworkinggal, if you don't want your rights, I'll take 'em! I could use them, mine are getting taken away with every day that passes by our fascist government.
Oh, and averageworkinggal, please listen to Ben Franklin's quote on giving up essential liberties as many times as it takes to sink in that giving up our rights for ANY cause is NEVER "patriotic" or "American".
All your kook rhetoric does not give you standing until you loony lefties come up an objective factual example of a law abiding citizen that was abused. You loons have produced no such evidence.
These military courts are for Islamonazi enemy combatants taken from the battlefield.
Any American arrested for espionage or terrorist activities is tried under the civil criminal system.
Wrong. Any American deemed an "enemy combatant" is answerable to only the Secretary of Defense under this Act. No check, no balance, no SC. The same Intelligence agenices that were certain of WMD's in Iraq can, under the legal guidance of this Act, hold you to account indefinetely..Sorry, to break it to you, but it's not just loony lefties that are sick of this shit, but traditional conservatives that will not tolerate hypocrisy and the carving up of the Constitution from any side.
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Congress provided the greatest amount of due process and habeas rights that have ever been provided to alien enemy combatants that were never detained on US soil. The detainees could challenge a judgment of enemy combatant against them in the DC court of appeal and seek remand or release on appeal if the evidence against them is insufficient.
There are periodic reviews from the DoD where they can introduce new evidence and seek a subsequent CSRT review of their enemy combatant status.
Besides the point, not only has torture NEVER worked at any point in time, but the neo cons signed this to allow torture on people that place value on suicide? Does this sound "objective" and reasonable to you?
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My liberties were always well protected by President Bush and the Congress from 9/11 through 2006. And my security as well. No terrorist attacks since 9/11.
Since you are into creating fake hyseria, as Libs always do, I assume based on your crackpot argument that you are likely be an unlawful enemy combatant since you are waging political war against America in time of war.
So I'll turn you in so that you can learn how well the DTA and MCA protected your rights to challenge your detention.
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?
We didn't love freedom enough. And even more -- we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward."
S trained Al Qaeda via OJT in Afghanistan, then top leadership and some cadre received
additional training in Saudi Arabia, US, Philippines. The CIA, and Pakistani ISI built
the Taliban from the top down. The US
even helped the Pakis get Taliban training camps set up inside Pakistan's Waziristan, Baluchistan, and Tribal Zone districts. Iran is a strong US ally - the ultimate patsy for hire.
CIA renditioning Gulfstream II jet aircraft # N987SA crashed on Sept. 24, 2007 after it ran out of fuel over Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, with a cargo of 4 tons of Cocaine on board. Plane made many round-robin.Same operations using rendition planes prisoners / heroin to-from Afghanistan.
I live in Pittsburgh and I saw a local TV story on KDKA TV where a man shot a black lab because It intefered with the mans deer hunting! Excuse me you macho men who shoot dogs need to face me! Id shoot you square in your ass! You ever shoot my dog and I will hunt you down!
Guns in the right hands?????? Excuse me! Why are the wrong people murdering people with guns you big men? Why are innocent dogs getting killed by hunters who interfere with their big man hunt? You kill my dog I am hunting you down!
Now you know the reason why they aim at controlling your guns.crime is the excuse.but crime is diminishing with more guns in the right hands; yours. Guns and gold=Freedom. disarmament of citizen's= enslavement.
Those who uphold the constitution are Americans, those who don't are traitors. And now it seems the laws are written to throw those who uphold the constitution in jail, and those who violate it impunity from the law.
Goering said:"Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy... simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."
Ive been watching Lou Dobbs on CNN and he also speaks straight truth. Im surprised to see anything like that on CNN. Like 23-30 million illegal aliens didnt arrive overnight but its good for business because they can use them and keep wages down. "Dont like ur job? fuck you we'll hire some wetback and train him at $4 an hour. You're fired Mr/Ms American..."
You sir the Court is the main perp of this law. It comes from cases although outcome seems just the place for the decisions was not in Supreme Court. Moreover ground work for future cases is set that may not have the same nice outcome. Brown v. Board of Education may be nice it violates the rule of law, 'Constitution.'
The Court had not right 2 manufacture the law by usurpation. Those justices are more harmful to the United States than the so-called terrorists. They are the real terror now
usagill 4 months ago
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RON PAUL 2012!
Skabur123 7 months ago
olbermann is an assfuck
jtp0321 2 years ago
He is the voice of the New Obama America!
AmerSocialistParty 2 years ago
watch The Obama Deception Amer and wake up...
mrkilluminati7 1 year ago
fuck this guy
ravenxcult 2 years ago
wow i watch the american world wrestling federation of politics for a good year now and i never got into that guy
he actually makes sense
yesterday i saw george carlin on his show giving compliments thats why i looked in the first place
keeeeep it up keith i think this is great
2Drink 2 years ago
Obama has no intention of overturning this - if anything, Obama has strengthened they tyrany
Vorpalbite 2 years ago
Can Barack Obama overturn this shit?
gowiemeister 2 years ago
it has already been overturned by the supreme court. I fucking hate Oberman, but he has a point.
ravenxcult 2 years ago 2
Olbermann makes a good point, there have been many notorious violations of Constitutional rights in the past, but none where the Congress expressly voted against Constitutional rights AND Habeas Corpus, or expressly gave only the President this kind of power. At least I can't think of one.
boatbrain3 2 years ago 2
V for Vendetta, remember those people that were black bagged and never heard from again?
Same shit can happen to you now, and the Military Commissions act of 2006 permits it.
WAKE UP PEOPLE.
datalorez 3 years ago 8
As a conservative I think Olbermann is a loon. The libertarian in me, the libertarian in me that voted Ron Paul, agrees with every word he says though.
kailynleto 3 years ago 8
averagegal. Answer. Is torture of an Islamofascist bent on glory for death and suicide going to be pruductive? Is giving a future tyrant a 2nd court system American? What if a Lib got hold of those powers? Save the Levin, Limbaugh jumbalia. Wikipedia the document, and if you're more gifted than Aristotle, enlighten us. 2 weeks ago Congress & the SC granted these new rights. The rights are 2 weeks old. These rights were granted in consequence of MCA. MCA raped UN. Bush went nuts. Admit it.
7ick 3 years ago
An American citizen to be made subject to the MCA would have to actually appear on the battlefield to provide proof in order for the military to detain. The Bush admin. in 2004 made it clear that it would not oppose any habeas petition from an American citizen. Americans were not going to be detained at GITMO.
These 270 are aliens captured on foreign battlefields and adjudicated as POWs by 2004 at the latest.
They had 3 years to appeal through the DTA and sat on their rights.
averageworkinggal 3 years ago
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9/11 happened but Libs have decided instead to side with AlQaeda against the US as evidenced here.
Speaking of Lies: Libs claiming that they had a 9/11 mindset as in just before 9/11. It's just the cover story to attack Bush for 9/11.
They never had it before 9/11 (the Jamie Gorelick Wall to disrupt counterterrorism cooperation and the "Let's just arrest them after they kill Americans rather than confront them on the battlefield abroad" policy) and this enemy combatant hysteria propaganda.
averageworkinggal 3 years ago
God, if only someone would lock up up this crazy nutball.
TheVideoEagle 3 years ago
how can our fucking president get away with this i'm getting tired of the congress not doing anything their not doing there jobs that was to take care of bush dam nwo
coldfireshot 3 years ago
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You are so ignorant.
The Congress and the President did devise an effective detainee system in time of war that provided far more habeas rights than ever provided for lawful enemy combatants let alone unlawful combatants, terrorists.
Unlawful combatants, under the laws of war, can be shot on site when captured on the battlefield.
averageworkinggal 3 years ago
Oversmear wants OJ trials for Alqaida terrorists.
He wants terrorists coddled.
Foreign combatants in time of war have never been entitled to Habeas Corpus, but Oversmear wants freedom for terrorists.
His propaganda is all sophistry.
Limited Government Liberal is as oxymoronic as it gets.
More than 30 of the Gitmo detainees released have shown up as terrorist homicide bombers on the battlefield.
K.Oversmear wants Alqaida set free so they can kill innocent civilians and our troops again.
averageworkinggal 3 years ago
averageworkinggal, if you don't want your rights, I'll take 'em! I could use them, mine are getting taken away with every day that passes by our fascist government.
Oh, and averageworkinggal, please listen to Ben Franklin's quote on giving up essential liberties as many times as it takes to sink in that giving up our rights for ANY cause is NEVER "patriotic" or "American".
LBHarbour 3 years ago
All your kook rhetoric does not give you standing until you loony lefties come up an objective factual example of a law abiding citizen that was abused. You loons have produced no such evidence.
These military courts are for Islamonazi enemy combatants taken from the battlefield.
Any American arrested for espionage or terrorist activities is tried under the civil criminal system.
averageworkinggal 3 years ago
Wrong. Any American deemed an "enemy combatant" is answerable to only the Secretary of Defense under this Act. No check, no balance, no SC. The same Intelligence agenices that were certain of WMD's in Iraq can, under the legal guidance of this Act, hold you to account indefinetely..Sorry, to break it to you, but it's not just loony lefties that are sick of this shit, but traditional conservatives that will not tolerate hypocrisy and the carving up of the Constitution from any side.
7ick 3 years ago
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Congress provided the greatest amount of due process and habeas rights that have ever been provided to alien enemy combatants that were never detained on US soil. The detainees could challenge a judgment of enemy combatant against them in the DC court of appeal and seek remand or release on appeal if the evidence against them is insufficient.
There are periodic reviews from the DoD where they can introduce new evidence and seek a subsequent CSRT review of their enemy combatant status.
averageworkinggal 3 years ago
Besides the point, not only has torture NEVER worked at any point in time, but the neo cons signed this to allow torture on people that place value on suicide? Does this sound "objective" and reasonable to you?
7ick 3 years ago
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My liberties were always well protected by President Bush and the Congress from 9/11 through 2006. And my security as well. No terrorist attacks since 9/11.
Since you are into creating fake hyseria, as Libs always do, I assume based on your crackpot argument that you are likely be an unlawful enemy combatant since you are waging political war against America in time of war.
So I'll turn you in so that you can learn how well the DTA and MCA protected your rights to challenge your detention.
averageworkinggal 3 years ago
you are stupid... furthermore, "you speak more than you know"
drumbait 3 years ago
This isn't spam this is the fucking TRUTH.
legggomyego 3 years ago
I hope you all understand that you are listening to a REAL American. Thank god for Keith!
JoshW9420 3 years ago 3
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Kieth pfft whatever he wouldn't know the differnce between a Citizen an a Civilain. if it bit him in the ass.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?
We didn't love freedom enough. And even more -- we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward."
(Abridged)
A.S.
parisiantango 3 years ago
nice job Keith
atheistit 3 years ago 4
Impeace Cheney, Bush, Pilosi and Clinton and all the other AIPAC shills.
It's official - The US lost the War in Iraq, Iran won.
And it only cost you $1.2 TRILLION and a few thousand soldiers.
fourcell911 4 years ago 10
@fourcell911
Obama now embodies all of the evil Bush and his crew set in motion.
Bush never really used the military commissions act.
Obama has now announced his intention to start using it.
Txsray 9 months ago
S trained Al Qaeda via OJT in Afghanistan, then top leadership and some cadre received
additional training in Saudi Arabia, US, Philippines. The CIA, and Pakistani ISI built
the Taliban from the top down. The US
even helped the Pakis get Taliban training camps set up inside Pakistan's Waziristan, Baluchistan, and Tribal Zone districts. Iran is a strong US ally - the ultimate patsy for hire.
fourcell911 4 years ago
CIA renditioning Gulfstream II jet aircraft # N987SA crashed on Sept. 24, 2007 after it ran out of fuel over Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, with a cargo of 4 tons of Cocaine on board. Plane made many round-robin.Same operations using rendition planes prisoners / heroin to-from Afghanistan.
fourcell911 4 years ago
Mr.Olbermann you sir are a blast of fresh air.for democracy. keep up the good work.you are a real patriot.
caterpillerdude 4 years ago 16
I live in Pittsburgh and I saw a local TV story on KDKA TV where a man shot a black lab because It intefered with the mans deer hunting! Excuse me you macho men who shoot dogs need to face me! Id shoot you square in your ass! You ever shoot my dog and I will hunt you down!
padude64 4 years ago
Guns in the right hands?????? Excuse me! Why are the wrong people murdering people with guns you big men? Why are innocent dogs getting killed by hunters who interfere with their big man hunt? You kill my dog I am hunting you down!
padude64 4 years ago
Who voted for this Act? were they asleep when they signed?
hans154 4 years ago 3
No; they were cowards when they signed.
blinkandoverlook 4 years ago 3
Now you know the reason why they aim at controlling your guns.crime is the excuse.but crime is diminishing with more guns in the right hands; yours. Guns and gold=Freedom. disarmament of citizen's= enslavement.
hans154 4 years ago 5
disarmament of citizens = enslavement
Sweet Jesus, everyone in England, Wales and Scotland is a SLAVE.
Issuecannon 4 years ago
yeah, and even slaves have pulled off successful revolutions, so whats our excuse?
cheddar21 3 years ago
Those who uphold the constitution are Americans, those who don't are traitors. And now it seems the laws are written to throw those who uphold the constitution in jail, and those who violate it impunity from the law.
awakenedstate 4 years ago 5
I Pledge of Allegiance ...
"with liberty and justice"
(with freedom and fairness)
"for all."
(for each person in the country...you and me!)
snipboy 4 years ago
revolution must happen now if we want to stop this madness
Jioxer 4 years ago
So true. Keith Rocks. It's so sad our country and everything we've fought for is going down the drain.
je42147 4 years ago
Goering said:"Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy... simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."
religiousatheist 5 years ago 3
the truth speaketh of his mouth..great goin keith
mikesterling 5 years ago
yes well said and 100% true!
darkwhitedirewolf 5 years ago
why more commentators dont have the balls like this guy. our country is going down the drain and no one say anything.
canolorenzo 5 years ago
Ive been watching Lou Dobbs on CNN and he also speaks straight truth. Im surprised to see anything like that on CNN. Like 23-30 million illegal aliens didnt arrive overnight but its good for business because they can use them and keep wages down. "Dont like ur job? fuck you we'll hire some wetback and train him at $4 an hour. You're fired Mr/Ms American..."
wanshei 4 years ago 3
They've been inching towards fascism the whole time, so glad someone on TV is finally talking about it.
laikalynx 5 years ago