first off thats not a srt4 which is a 2.4l btw if that was a srt4 with a 35r that talon in its setup would get worked 35 r srt4s are just as fast as any 35r evo or stis out there if not faster aftre all the fastest srt4 runs 7.9s and is one of the fastets 4 cycl in the world FACT. btw srt4 holds land speed record for four cyc
@Anonymous4chanuser the real pieces of shits are you and the other 21 of you brady bunch dick sucking faggots who dont know shit about cars hahah the funny thing about loosing to a neon is that you have to lie to your friends about what car just handed you your fuckin ass!. your a hater and so are the rest of you fuckin clowns, racedeck.com/blog/?p=57 read em and wheep bitch fastest 4 cycl in the world land speed record
@The1Artistry1 no1 races a 5 mile course tho he wouldnt be able to do 200+ in the 1/4 o well drag racing is gay to me anyways all these clowns that race in a straight line thinking they are good driver can meet me on the dirt rally racing and autocross is where its at. fuck how fast you can go in a straight line...
la wastegate etais pas debrancher jetais supposer rouler 30psi mais les bolts de wastegates etais lousse alors pertes de vaccum je boostais surement juste 15-20psi a cause de sa.
@CoChicken1337 lol you just proved my point by saying that nice lol period joke i remember when those where funny in 6th grade i bet next you will say "your momma" cool story man well i have a gsx to work on my supra gets lonely with her gf gsx not running so ill leave you with this ................................. that should be enough periods to tide you over for now. ps go get some pussy its amazing then you wont look like a total fag spell correcting everyone i swear it will change ur life
"... that should be enough periods to tide you over for now. ps go get some pussy its amazing then you wont look like a total fag spell correcting everyone i swear it will change ur life"
@mohsniperelite There is so much wasted space with all the mess in vacuum lines and cables/hoses etc.. if you were to remove abs, a/c, wire tuck ,and relocate your battery, the bay really opens up.
@4g63jojo Of course it is capt. Obvious...what gave you the impression I thought otherwise of this fact? And my argument is if Mitsu can barely fit all the vacuum lines, cables/hoses, etc. in the eclipse engine bay with only a 4 cylinder motor, what makes you think they can do it with a V6 in there? I know there are shops that have done motor swaps on the eclipse, but they have things down to a bare minimum like removing abs, A/C, wire tuck, etc.. just as tylerh200 said earlier.
Watch this guys other video. In one it shows from inside the Talon. He let off because of a car that he came up on. Thats a sick neon. I dont care what anyone says.
@sohckiller easy its a neon there's your answer and don't cry this shit happens everyday srt-4 are not the great face the facts and in this video you watched this guy was having a problem with the external waste gate and still smoked his ass believe me if he was running 30 psi full strength it would not even have been funny, OK ill would have been laughing my ass off but the srt-4 would have been creamed and that's cause the dsm can run half that psi and still whoop his ass its the truth
@CoChicken1337 and who gives a fuck u still understood what i typed right o.k. then shut the fuck up and get get life asshole instead of searching around you tube looking for peoples typing mistake.
@CoChicken1337 jesus classic case of some retard that spent most of his life being pushed into lockers and picked on so you read all of the harry potter books and use your grammar skills as a weapon once again your type goes on the internet mainly world of warcraft and becomes an E bully dood im a computer nerd i have horrible spelling and make 60k a year now that im out of college so really what are you trying to prove
@geezy21unc and one more thing when i was talking about 2 different technology's on these cars i was talking about srt-4 neon not that shitty ass mid 90's P.O.S. and yes there boost stock is different in these yrs and the 4g63t doesn't need a whole lot of boost to make huge h.p. thats why we r famous for our evo3 16g turbo might look small but it packs one hell of a fucking punch just at around 16-18psi were over 300h.p. and believe me its enough to whoop on an srt-4 any day
@geezy21unc O and thats why our motor's r a 2.0 and not a 2.4 and crank a shit load more h.p. even on our small 16g turbos we can run 400+h.p. and 10's all day when the weak ass srt-4 having to run much bigger turbo's just to be able to keep up, especially with all that stage 1 stage 2 bullshit O and i forgot stage 3 that shit is fucking retarded and with my GST i destroy srt-4 down here all day 4G63T FTW BITCH u my good friend most definitely fail DSM ROCKS THE WORLD BITCH! (KINGS OF TURBO)
@geezy21unc your trying compare two totally different yrs of technology of turbocharged cars all of todays modern turbo cars run 15psi or higher 90-99 dsm ran roughly around 8-10 psi your an idiot to try and compare these two cars stock to stock and by the way i dont see the srt-4 pulling 7's on the track and its because of mitsubishi is why the srt-4 even made but u know it still is a piece of shit always will be its still a neon
@efp1103 your more than welcome to try that Slap! break your fucken arm off and slap You with it! Its a mitsubushi engine! Sorry i was thinking about the Acura Vigor Gs i had. And thats my name! Eagle Talon I was born in 1970! Sorry to upset the DSM community & Fuck Efp1103! Officially shut the fuck up & thanks for correcting me Dumbass!
''dodge neon'' Fuck you,dodge doesent have a fucken prayer against a talon.Chrysler was just a name to put on the talon for sale to the American people,it has nothing to do with chrysler,its a honda engine Dumbass!
@EagleTalon1970 u officially need to be slapped and change ur display name after saying talons had honda motors...Ur a shame to the entire dsm community...FAIL!
"All Neons used American-designed engines. According to Dan Minick, who wrote for Engine Rebuilder magazine, the cylinder head of the DOHC version is an outright copy of that of Mitsubishi 2.0 L 4G63 engine, while the SOHC version borrows heavily from Mitsubishi's early 90s 4G15 enigne from Colt.[2] Mitsubishi also used the Chrysler-designed DOHC ECC engines with a reversed cylinder head. The Mitsubishi engine code is 420A."
go to chrysler neon on wikipedia. This is what it says
@BrendelxD your a fool for listening to dumbasses on wiki . the 420a , ecc , a588 , etc , were chrysler engines . i know this because i have rebuilt them plenty times . and if you have actually ever seen one of these engines you would have seen the chrsyler stamp on the block . the 420a has .5 mm larger intake valves and 1.0 mm larger exhaust valves than the 4g63 . also the ports through the head are different and have a different manifold flange .
@notapplicable332 thats alright. everyone makes mistakes. But, that doesn't mean he does not have the 2.4L engine in there. I know a few folks that have done the swap from 2.0 to 2.4.
@FriendlyFire360 Why would you swap a 2.0 4g63 for a 2.4 4g64? The 2.0 is far more superior. Now if they made the 4g63 a 2.4 stroker, I can see the reasoning behind that.
@FriendlyFire360 My bad I thought you were talking about the Talon. I was saying I dont see the reason for swapping anything for the 2.0. That's the best engine they got.
Another thing I noticed, the Neon let off early. I have to call Pussy on him.... Even if the Talon was pulling away, there is no reason he should have let off.
Talon with a damaged wastegate. They are claiming 30psi because it might be creeping or spiking to 30. Which isn't consistent. SRT4 still hasn't beaten the world record for fastest 4cylinder car. DSM Owns that title still.
@94351 Actually your wrong. Evo isn't. However neither is DSM. The Record holder is a 4sGTE Toyota Paseo, Then Brent Rau's Eclipse. Evo's aren't a much quicker 4cylinder.... yet.
@anerloks are you retarded? people call dsm dsm's because that was the period when chrystler owned a part of mitsubishi, which ended in 2000. The lancer evo has never been referred to as a dsm, because that would not make any sense at all you incompetent noob
@94351 Make it simple and tell them DSM means Diamond Star Motors. Diamond being Mitsubishi Star being Chrysler they were made in Detroit or Illinois almost completely american parts hardly a import. Really its funny how morons dont really understand the meaning of import considering more american cars have parts coming from Germany and France while Eclipse is almost 100% if not 100% american made but im getting off topic there. 4g63 was used in the EVO before DSM ever came to be end of story.
@ECLPST Thank you. Im glad someone understands. Stupid flamers on here act like they know everything just because they can read the stats from a magazine. As for me though, Im looking into a 3000gt vr4. :)
@ECLPST There were actually 8 vehicles to have the 4g63 before the DSMs. I was just specifying that DSMs were around before the EVO because you said the EVO came first which was wrong.
The R/T neons had 420a's....they did share motors, its a chrysler motor..if you take the heat sheild of the exhaust manifold you will see a chrysler emblem on the eclipse's avengers and theres a few more.. The SRT-4 motor is highly identical to the 420a both blocks are almost the complete same and tranny..The 4g63 version was totally different...And to all, the 420a is a LOTUS motor, they scratched it and chrysler picked it up...end of story
@geezy21unc when i was workin on my talon at the shop there was a neon next 2 my talon that needed a ecu and i popped the hood and was a dohc 420 and it was a neon rt
@IIKlaplonGII really ricers? cuz thoes cars had body kits on them and talons WERNT made by christler in the 90's so good job knowing what your talking about
You are mistaken. I owned a 98 dodge neon EX that came with the 150 hp DOHC 420A Mitsubishi engine. I did lots of work on it, and even saw the diamond star logo stamped into the block. the head is different, but yet the same, it's just flipped around so the exhaust is towards the cabin, and intake plenum is in the front. The valve covers were compatible between mitsu's and neons.
geezy21unc is certainly right, you can even find the mitsubishi tag/badge on those engines in the cars he mentioned that are not mitsubishi cars themselves.
Negative the 420a is a chrysler motor. The only motor ever to not be made by mitsu. Srt4 FTL all day long. Theres a reason why they discontinued that terd. Hey ill race but only from a roll. Fags.
That is a nice Talon. I used to have a similar looking 93 black Talon AWD w/o power windows/doorlocks and a/c. Mine came with slightly grey rims. The car feels strong everytime I start it in the morning, especially, in cold condition. I miss that car.
both cars didnt even get on it wtf? ride her ass to the end. dont stop when one is pulling on the other, pussies. p.s. the neon motor is not a 420a you guys, they have alot of similarities, the chrysler version is based off a mitisubishi. one example i can think of (im high) is the heads are different, and some bolt patterns like oilpan,gaskets,sensors,and the bore is different etc. for those of u who dont believe me, swap a 420a and see if its a direct bolt up.
yeah, the only difference IS the bolt patterns and sensors, other than that it is the same garbage engine that was in the GS and RS DSM, just flippsed around in the engine bay. 4G63 hands down owns, not neccessarily in this video, but everywhere else.
i dunno man. these lil motors are pretty cable with a little bit of patience, time, money and dedication. my neon flys with the 2.0. i just have a built head with a nice cam. the neon doesnt weigh much, so i dont need alot of power to move. with some bolt-ons, maybe a turbo or spray, they are fun i dont care what other people think. i wouldnt mind havin a awd eclipse or talon to mess with. (i like the body style in the video.) but dont diss the 420a or chysler version. they just as capable.
@phuckmerunnin06 No, a stock 420 is POO POO stock. If you build it sure, its capable. But guess what, if you build my daily driver d15, thats capable too. so whats the point, everything is capable if you build it with enough time and enough money. So no, the 420a is not as capable as a 4g63.
Search the "Chrysler Neon engine" in wiki. Its a 420a. The srt-4 is the only neon to use a dif motor. The neon has the same 420a engine as the non turbo 2g eclipse...
Yeah, idk where everyone is getting that Mits motors are in the Neon, they rarely ever are. They come standard with the Dodge built ones. The Talon (Eagle) on the other hand, is more closely affiliated with Mitsi, bc of the fact Eagle was Mopar's "answer to imports" branch in the 90's. So the Talon always had the MITS motor in it, not the Neon. But they're all still affiliated though. (Mits, Dodge, and Eagle)
Wrong. The 420a (neon engine) was designed by Chrysler Corporation..The srt4 has a turbo 2.4L inline 4 designed by Dodge..Mitsubishi used the engine in a few cars, but they didnt design it..
@MuhammadDerkaDerka You shut the fuck up dumbass, if you knew anything about the engine you would know that it was DESIGNED by Mitsubishi and BUILT in a Chrystler factory to Mitsubishi's spefications, Its a DSM engine if you want to get technical, all the ones built before 95 are anyway, thats why they are slightly different than 95-99 420a's
@kingofforza 4g63 and 420a arent even similar your fuckin noob. ive owned 3 dsms asshole . 2 with a 4g63 and one with a 420a . so blow me. you dont know SHIT ... if it was a dsm engine it would say DSM on it NOT CHRYSLER . there isnt even any mitsubishi stampings on it ... oh thats right the 420a says made in mexico ... kinda at the CHRYSLER fascility... oh wait mitsubishi had a fascility in Mischigan ... hmmmm STFU MORON
@MuhammadDerkaDerka Fuck you you fucking know-it-all prick, Ive owned 2 dsm's and i know they are built in fucking mexico, the DESIGN!!!!! is Mitsubishi SPECIFICATION!!!!! YOU FUCKING R>E>T>A>R>D!!!!! You arent even worth the 35 seconds i wasted typing this, go jump off a bridge
@maggot133515 Hahahahaha shut the fuck up you know-it-all assholes, I know for a fact i am right, ive owned and worked on both and the fucking valve covers are even interchangable so what the fuck ever, you are right, i wouldnt know anything about them having owned both and worked on both and even SWAPPED PARTS on them but im wrong right? right, ok, fuck you, have a nice day :D
@icantellfakefromreal Well im quite sick and tired of all these know-it-all pricks telling me im wrong when I OWN THE FUCKING THING!!!! The 420 a was also used in Avengers, stratuses, seabrings and fucking dodge/chrystler mini vans. but yet, i know nothing about the engine and how it is the EXACT same block as a NEON engine with a different head that is reversed, a.k.a the intake manifold is in the front and the exahust in the back. Yet again, here we are though ive said it three times now
@kingofforza fuck you goof you can suck a fat one all i said was a chill comment and you come fuckin freaking out so fuck yourself i don't wanna see another dumb fuckin shitass comment comin from your keyboard you internet thug lol. peace
@icantellfakefromreal Im just sick of everyone being an expert on the situation without reading the comments beforehand and I admit, i did flip out a little about yours but its not like I dont know that the engine is in eclipses talons and lasers when i have owned a talon, a neon, my mom had a van with the engine and i currently own an eclipse with it too
@TalonTSISHP You do know that mopar sold an upgrade kit that will increase power (boost) to achieve a 100whp gain and still maintain the the daily driveability and reliability. If i had the extra time and money i'd put a 50 trim on mine and still drive it daily. Nothing will break. now dsms on the other hand....
diamond star motors means mitsubishi and chrysler . diamond is mitsubishi logo , star is the chrysler logo . plymouth eagle and mitsubishi had dsm cars . some dodge cars were built at the dsm plant also . including sebrings and avengers
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first off thats not a srt4 which is a 2.4l btw if that was a srt4 with a 35r that talon in its setup would get worked 35 r srt4s are just as fast as any 35r evo or stis out there if not faster aftre all the fastest srt4 runs 7.9s and is one of the fastets 4 cycl in the world FACT. btw srt4 holds land speed record for four cyc
The1Artistry1 1 month ago
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The1Artistry1 1 month ago
Fuck mine is not even set past 10psi, and it's faster than that shit.. So yeah, no way that's 30psi.
KingFrankie777 1 month ago
dodge neons are trash lololololol talon would smoke it lololololol fail
XxsprintxX 4 months ago
That is a sloooow talon for 30 psi on a 60 trim...... I highly doubt it is what you say!
Padi12345 5 months ago 8
@Padi12345 you can tell it doesn't push 30 psi just by how it sounds when it spools..
if it were hitting 30 psi it would be whistling like a mother fucker
owenpls 3 months ago
That was a NT talon to... LOL jk.
4g63guyGT 6 months ago
like is it a srt4 or a actual neon
soxonmyfeet 6 months ago
Swirly's FTW!
3geclipse86 7 months ago
hey Neon..
Eat my shorts...
--Bart simpson.
Jaxon0098 7 months ago
hahahah that was funny! clean 1g!
95300whptalon 7 months ago
I love my supra, I just need to boost it up past 30PSI :(
racerxj220 7 months ago
I love my Talon! I just need to boost it up past 12psi. :(
KingFrankie777 7 months ago
dsm baby! Fuck a neon
Ballsdeep061 7 months ago
GT35r at 10psi? dawm what a stupid jackass...
flamingaxe791 7 months ago 2
Both are badass cars man! How did your car respond to that giant snail? I'm a DSMer for life but respect a good SRT4
jkonn7 8 months ago
Haha fuck your neon piece of shit.
Anonymous4chanuser 8 months ago 20
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The1Artistry1 1 month ago
@Anonymous4chanuser the real pieces of shits are you and the other 21 of you brady bunch dick sucking faggots who dont know shit about cars hahah the funny thing about loosing to a neon is that you have to lie to your friends about what car just handed you your fuckin ass!. your a hater and so are the rest of you fuckin clowns, racedeck.com/blog/?p=57 read em and wheep bitch fastest 4 cycl in the world land speed record
The1Artistry1 1 month ago
@The1Artistry1 no1 races a 5 mile course tho he wouldnt be able to do 200+ in the 1/4 o well drag racing is gay to me anyways all these clowns that race in a straight line thinking they are good driver can meet me on the dirt rally racing and autocross is where its at. fuck how fast you can go in a straight line...
TheRallycrossKing 1 week ago
thumbs down for driving a neon. lol?
XDieHardGamerX 10 months ago
i absolutely love the way 1gs look.
roydied15 10 months ago
That talon is clean as shit. lol
tobythesandwich 10 months ago
la wastegate etais pas debrancher jetais supposer rouler 30psi mais les bolts de wastegates etais lousse alors pertes de vaccum je boostais surement juste 15-20psi a cause de sa.
overboostalon 11 months ago
DSM ftw.
pickmelter38 11 months ago
tsi all day
dag21090 11 months ago
neion suck
MyHappyshit 1 year ago
si ya un problem de wastegate i runnais surment pas a 30 psi?..
beluga420 1 year ago
@beluga420
oui , la wastegate etais débranché alors il poussais 30 psi
Neonmods1 1 year ago
GT3582R my ass
candle2k 1 year ago
decent run
3KVT 1 year ago
the 420a is a 4cyl, and the 4g63 is now around 550
Neonmods1 1 year ago
@CoChicken1337 lol you just proved my point by saying that nice lol period joke i remember when those where funny in 6th grade i bet next you will say "your momma" cool story man well i have a gsx to work on my supra gets lonely with her gf gsx not running so ill leave you with this ................................. that should be enough periods to tide you over for now. ps go get some pussy its amazing then you wont look like a total fag spell correcting everyone i swear it will change ur life
al2646 1 year ago
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@al2646 (aka retard)
"... that should be enough periods to tide you over for now. ps go get some pussy its amazing then you wont look like a total fag spell correcting everyone i swear it will change ur life"
learn how to spell your dip shit.
ThePinkPantha 1 year ago
the orange neon was mine..it was a 420a with a gt35r turbo setup.runing with a sds standalone
dynoed at 330 whp 15 psi..
the dsm is my brother.
was running a 60-1 in that day at 28 psi around 420 hp
now he is running a sc62 to push 600hp
as for the neon it was sold 2 years ago . now i am running a
srt caliber.
Neonmods1 1 year ago
@Neonmods1 330? thats alittle low isnt it my 4g63 hit 344 with 15psi on a 16g turbo isnt the 420a a v6?
al2646 1 year ago
@al2646 isnt the 420a a v6?
hahaha a v6 stock in a dsm engine bay? I think not, they barely fit everything into the bay with the turbo'd 4g63 let alone tossing a v6 in there.
mohsniperelite 1 year ago
@mohsniperelite actually ive seen a 3000gt vr-4 motor in a talon tsi
XanderReySoteras 1 year ago
@mohsniperelite There's a vid of a 6G72 DSM on youtube.
FeelTehBa55 1 year ago
@mohsniperelite There is so much wasted space with all the mess in vacuum lines and cables/hoses etc.. if you were to remove abs, a/c, wire tuck ,and relocate your battery, the bay really opens up.
tylerh200 1 year ago
@mohsniperelite 420a is a 2.0L 4cylinder not a v6
4g63jojo 1 year ago
@4g63jojo Of course it is capt. Obvious...what gave you the impression I thought otherwise of this fact? And my argument is if Mitsu can barely fit all the vacuum lines, cables/hoses, etc. in the eclipse engine bay with only a 4 cylinder motor, what makes you think they can do it with a V6 in there? I know there are shops that have done motor swaps on the eclipse, but they have things down to a bare minimum like removing abs, A/C, wire tuck, etc.. just as tylerh200 said earlier.
mohsniperelite 1 year ago
That's a clean DSM.
base3100 1 year ago
Watch this guys other video. In one it shows from inside the Talon. He let off because of a car that he came up on. Thats a sick neon. I dont care what anyone says.
JakeyReptar 1 year ago
freakin love that turbo sound, getting my 92 tsi awd next week.
reaperpaintball08 1 year ago
clean dsm
tbomb1492 1 year ago
Hahaha everyone is an expert
RHDS2K 1 year ago 11
@geezy21unc but neons are gay
impleasen 1 year ago
how in the Fuck did that neon loose ive beaten a Talon Turbo Charged with a stock neon wtf
sohckiller 1 year ago
@sohckiller easy its a neon there's your answer and don't cry this shit happens everyday srt-4 are not the great face the facts and in this video you watched this guy was having a problem with the external waste gate and still smoked his ass believe me if he was running 30 psi full strength it would not even have been funny, OK ill would have been laughing my ass off but the srt-4 would have been creamed and that's cause the dsm can run half that psi and still whoop his ass its the truth
eclipse93gst 1 year ago
@eclipse93gst thats not a srt4 though its a 95 neon turbo
assholo44544 1 year ago
@eclipse93gst
LEARN TO TYPE. MY FUCKING GOD THAT'S PAINFUL TO TRY AND READ.
CoChicken1337 1 year ago
@CoChicken1337 u can still read it can u, o.k. then quit crying
eclipse93gst 1 year ago
@eclipse93gst
I'm not crying. Not even close. I'm calling you a dumb ass because you type like a 3rd grader.
CoChicken1337 1 year ago
@CoChicken1337 and who gives a fuck u still understood what i typed right o.k. then shut the fuck up and get get life asshole instead of searching around you tube looking for peoples typing mistake.
eclipse93gst 1 year ago
@eclipse93gst
Why you mad though? All that time raging could be used to learn how to type.
CoChicken1337 1 year ago
@CoChicken1337 whatever man get a life
eclipse93gst 1 year ago
@CoChicken1337 jesus classic case of some retard that spent most of his life being pushed into lockers and picked on so you read all of the harry potter books and use your grammar skills as a weapon once again your type goes on the internet mainly world of warcraft and becomes an E bully dood im a computer nerd i have horrible spelling and make 60k a year now that im out of college so really what are you trying to prove
al2646 1 year ago
@al2646
Periods: they end sentences. Also, it seems like you may be on yours.
CoChicken1337 1 year ago
@sohckiller dude... neons are slow
zach31992 1 year ago
@geezy21unc and one more thing when i was talking about 2 different technology's on these cars i was talking about srt-4 neon not that shitty ass mid 90's P.O.S. and yes there boost stock is different in these yrs and the 4g63t doesn't need a whole lot of boost to make huge h.p. thats why we r famous for our evo3 16g turbo might look small but it packs one hell of a fucking punch just at around 16-18psi were over 300h.p. and believe me its enough to whoop on an srt-4 any day
eclipse93gst 1 year ago
@eclipse93gst thats why i bought a big evo3 16g :D
blkesi97 1 year ago
@blkesi97 yah bro there the shit i miss mine but i really enjoy my T04E alot
eclipse93gst 1 year ago
@geezy21unc O and thats why our motor's r a 2.0 and not a 2.4 and crank a shit load more h.p. even on our small 16g turbos we can run 400+h.p. and 10's all day when the weak ass srt-4 having to run much bigger turbo's just to be able to keep up, especially with all that stage 1 stage 2 bullshit O and i forgot stage 3 that shit is fucking retarded and with my GST i destroy srt-4 down here all day 4G63T FTW BITCH u my good friend most definitely fail DSM ROCKS THE WORLD BITCH! (KINGS OF TURBO)
eclipse93gst 1 year ago
that is the best sonding car i have ever heard
eagletalon66 1 year ago
420a vs 4g63= see ya at any psi :)
falcon8r 1 year ago
@geezy21unc your trying compare two totally different yrs of technology of turbocharged cars all of todays modern turbo cars run 15psi or higher 90-99 dsm ran roughly around 8-10 psi your an idiot to try and compare these two cars stock to stock and by the way i dont see the srt-4 pulling 7's on the track and its because of mitsubishi is why the srt-4 even made but u know it still is a piece of shit always will be its still a neon
eclipse93gst 1 year ago
looks like his mom is video taping
jimcantplay 1 year ago
good race
deadtofall666 1 year ago
@efp1103 your more than welcome to try that Slap! break your fucken arm off and slap You with it! Its a mitsubushi engine! Sorry i was thinking about the Acura Vigor Gs i had. And thats my name! Eagle Talon I was born in 1970! Sorry to upset the DSM community & Fuck Efp1103! Officially shut the fuck up & thanks for correcting me Dumbass!
EagleTalon1970 1 year ago
same motor mitsucishi 4g63t the neon is a t model can be very easily
connerconn 1 year ago
''dodge neon'' Fuck you,dodge doesent have a fucken prayer against a talon.Chrysler was just a name to put on the talon for sale to the American people,it has nothing to do with chrysler,its a honda engine Dumbass!
EagleTalon1970 1 year ago
@EagleTalon1970 That's weird my talon had a Mitsubishi engine. My civic on the otherhand has a honduh engine though
2GGSX 1 year ago
@EagleTalon1970 u officially need to be slapped and change ur display name after saying talons had honda motors...Ur a shame to the entire dsm community...FAIL!
efp1103 1 year ago
Love those Talons!
smithraymond09029 1 year ago
"All Neons used American-designed engines. According to Dan Minick, who wrote for Engine Rebuilder magazine, the cylinder head of the DOHC version is an outright copy of that of Mitsubishi 2.0 L 4G63 engine, while the SOHC version borrows heavily from Mitsubishi's early 90s 4G15 enigne from Colt.[2] Mitsubishi also used the Chrysler-designed DOHC ECC engines with a reversed cylinder head. The Mitsubishi engine code is 420A."
go to chrysler neon on wikipedia. This is what it says
BrendelxD 1 year ago
@BrendelxD your a fool for listening to dumbasses on wiki . the 420a , ecc , a588 , etc , were chrysler engines . i know this because i have rebuilt them plenty times . and if you have actually ever seen one of these engines you would have seen the chrsyler stamp on the block . the 420a has .5 mm larger intake valves and 1.0 mm larger exhaust valves than the 4g63 . also the ports through the head are different and have a different manifold flange .
Red97Avenger 1 year ago
The talon's deff faster.
bnelly92 1 year ago
on stock internals the neon can not handle 30 PSI
FriendlyFire360 1 year ago
@FriendlyFire360 there's a guy on stock bottom end with 35 PSI, pushing 650 WHP I believe. check it on on SRTforums
notapplicable332 1 year ago
@notapplicable332 Not on the 2.0 engine 8 - 10 PSI safely you can run 13 PSI but the Pistons will not hold up. dodgeforum
FriendlyFire360 1 year ago
@FriendlyFire360 Yeah sorry your right, I didn't see that it was a first gen, I just assumed it was a SRT4
notapplicable332 1 year ago
@notapplicable332 thats alright. everyone makes mistakes. But, that doesn't mean he does not have the 2.4L engine in there. I know a few folks that have done the swap from 2.0 to 2.4.
FriendlyFire360 1 year ago
@FriendlyFire360 Why would you swap a 2.0 4g63 for a 2.4 4g64? The 2.0 is far more superior. Now if they made the 4g63 a 2.4 stroker, I can see the reasoning behind that.
2GGSX 1 year ago
@2GGSX most folks I know swap the 2.4 engine from the SRT4 into the 1st gen Neons. I guess it would be due to cost.
FriendlyFire360 1 year ago
@FriendlyFire360 My bad I thought you were talking about the Talon. I was saying I dont see the reason for swapping anything for the 2.0. That's the best engine they got.
2GGSX 1 year ago
Another thing I noticed, the Neon let off early. I have to call Pussy on him.... Even if the Talon was pulling away, there is no reason he should have let off.
jagray85 1 year ago
Talon with a damaged wastegate. They are claiming 30psi because it might be creeping or spiking to 30. Which isn't consistent. SRT4 still hasn't beaten the world record for fastest 4cylinder car. DSM Owns that title still.
jagray85 1 year ago 10
@jagray85 I don't think dsm owns that title anymore...if I'm not mistaken, evo's are a much quicker 4 cylinder
94351 9 months ago
@94351 Actually your wrong. Evo isn't. However neither is DSM. The Record holder is a 4sGTE Toyota Paseo, Then Brent Rau's Eclipse. Evo's aren't a much quicker 4cylinder.... yet.
jagray85 9 months ago
@jagray85 I meant stock, but yeah the possibilities are endless in the aftermarket scene
94351 9 months ago
@94351 that is a dsm dumb fuck it still uses the 4g63 motor
anerloks 9 months ago
@anerloks are you retarded? people call dsm dsm's because that was the period when chrystler owned a part of mitsubishi, which ended in 2000. The lancer evo has never been referred to as a dsm, because that would not make any sense at all you incompetent noob
94351 9 months ago
@94351 Make it simple and tell them DSM means Diamond Star Motors. Diamond being Mitsubishi Star being Chrysler they were made in Detroit or Illinois almost completely american parts hardly a import. Really its funny how morons dont really understand the meaning of import considering more american cars have parts coming from Germany and France while Eclipse is almost 100% if not 100% american made but im getting off topic there. 4g63 was used in the EVO before DSM ever came to be end of story.
ECLPST 8 months ago
@ECLPST Thank you. Im glad someone understands. Stupid flamers on here act like they know everything just because they can read the stats from a magazine. As for me though, Im looking into a 3000gt vr4. :)
94351 8 months ago
@94351 Im working on getting funds for a 2j FD Rx-7. Sexiest car ever and the sexiest engine ever.
ECLPST 8 months ago
@94351 all you have to do is just delete their post,
ademanster 7 months ago
@ECLPST Actually the EVO was first produced in 1992 so DSM's were around first.
usaidemon 7 months ago
@usaidemon 4G63 was first used in a Colt vista/Chariot in 1983 so either way it was before DSM
ECLPST 7 months ago
@ECLPST There were actually 8 vehicles to have the 4g63 before the DSMs. I was just specifying that DSMs were around before the EVO because you said the EVO came first which was wrong.
usaidemon 7 months ago
@geezy21unc
The R/T neons had 420a's....they did share motors, its a chrysler motor..if you take the heat sheild of the exhaust manifold you will see a chrysler emblem on the eclipse's avengers and theres a few more.. The SRT-4 motor is highly identical to the 420a both blocks are almost the complete same and tranny..The 4g63 version was totally different...And to all, the 420a is a LOTUS motor, they scratched it and chrysler picked it up...end of story
Kenuwine24 2 years ago
@geezy21unc when i was workin on my talon at the shop there was a neon next 2 my talon that needed a ecu and i popped the hood and was a dohc 420 and it was a neon rt
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IIKlaplonGII 2 years ago
@IIKlaplonGII really ricers? cuz thoes cars had body kits on them and talons WERNT made by christler in the 90's so good job knowing what your talking about
Trun195 2 years ago
@geezy
You are mistaken. I owned a 98 dodge neon EX that came with the 150 hp DOHC 420A Mitsubishi engine. I did lots of work on it, and even saw the diamond star logo stamped into the block. the head is different, but yet the same, it's just flipped around so the exhaust is towards the cabin, and intake plenum is in the front. The valve covers were compatible between mitsu's and neons.
kandem360 2 years ago
geezy21unc is certainly right, you can even find the mitsubishi tag/badge on those engines in the cars he mentioned that are not mitsubishi cars themselves.
SapoCururu 2 years ago
Negative the 420a is a chrysler motor. The only motor ever to not be made by mitsu. Srt4 FTL all day long. Theres a reason why they discontinued that terd. Hey ill race but only from a roll. Fags.
90gsxBIG 2 years ago
That is a nice Talon. I used to have a similar looking 93 black Talon AWD w/o power windows/doorlocks and a/c. Mine came with slightly grey rims. The car feels strong everytime I start it in the morning, especially, in cold condition. I miss that car.
Tinger1974 2 years ago
something tells me you cant tune shit
kottyking 2 years ago
bad ass talon... they make sick project cars... DSM is the shit
PABLORL1989 2 years ago
both cars didnt even get on it wtf? ride her ass to the end. dont stop when one is pulling on the other, pussies. p.s. the neon motor is not a 420a you guys, they have alot of similarities, the chrysler version is based off a mitisubishi. one example i can think of (im high) is the heads are different, and some bolt patterns like oilpan,gaskets,sensors,and the bore is different etc. for those of u who dont believe me, swap a 420a and see if its a direct bolt up.
phuckmerunnin06 2 years ago
yeah, the only difference IS the bolt patterns and sensors, other than that it is the same garbage engine that was in the GS and RS DSM, just flippsed around in the engine bay. 4G63 hands down owns, not neccessarily in this video, but everywhere else.
OneSickGST 2 years ago
And why would anybody waste the time and effort to swap in a 420a?
kottyking 2 years ago
i dunno man. these lil motors are pretty cable with a little bit of patience, time, money and dedication. my neon flys with the 2.0. i just have a built head with a nice cam. the neon doesnt weigh much, so i dont need alot of power to move. with some bolt-ons, maybe a turbo or spray, they are fun i dont care what other people think. i wouldnt mind havin a awd eclipse or talon to mess with. (i like the body style in the video.) but dont diss the 420a or chysler version. they just as capable.
phuckmerunnin06 2 years ago
@phuckmerunnin06 No, a stock 420 is POO POO stock. If you build it sure, its capable. But guess what, if you build my daily driver d15, thats capable too. so whats the point, everything is capable if you build it with enough time and enough money. So no, the 420a is not as capable as a 4g63.
kottyking 2 years ago
Tuner? Sport Compact? Same thing. Anything you can tune or has been tuned is a tuner. Hence the name "Tuner".
elliott12591 2 years ago
i didnt understand that sentence
SWATKIID 2 years ago
Search the "Chrysler Neon engine" in wiki. Its a 420a. The srt-4 is the only neon to use a dif motor. The neon has the same 420a engine as the non turbo 2g eclipse...
garrett6699 2 years ago
Yeah, idk where everyone is getting that Mits motors are in the Neon, they rarely ever are. They come standard with the Dodge built ones. The Talon (Eagle) on the other hand, is more closely affiliated with Mitsi, bc of the fact Eagle was Mopar's "answer to imports" branch in the 90's. So the Talon always had the MITS motor in it, not the Neon. But they're all still affiliated though. (Mits, Dodge, and Eagle)
TheMacMan35 2 years ago
sadly, on the inside, theyre both mitsubishi's...
STILL I'D TAKE THE EAGLE! :P cuz theyre just that sick.... when they dont break
skylinedestroyer305 2 years ago
Sadly, yourwrong..The 420ain the dodge neon is a DODGE motor.The 4g63 in that taslon is all Mitsubishi...
garrett6699 2 years ago 2
the motor in the srt and neon are both designed by mitsubishi, same with the dodge stealth and many other non-muscle dodges.
skylinedestroyer305 2 years ago
Wrong. The 420a (neon engine) was designed by Chrysler Corporation..The srt4 has a turbo 2.4L inline 4 designed by Dodge..Mitsubishi used the engine in a few cars, but they didnt design it..
garrett6699 2 years ago 8
@garrett6699 Daimler Chrysler=benz designed =)
tikitxiki 1 year ago
@garrett6699 how come there are mitsubishi stamps all over the srt4 motor
pOoPdIcK76 11 months ago
@pOoPdIcK76 because it is built to mitsubishi specification just like the 420a, the only difference is the head is reversed
kingofforza 11 months ago
@kingofforza stfu dumb ass . 420a isnt mitsubishi built , its made by chrysler
MuhammadDerkaDerka 10 months ago
@MuhammadDerkaDerka You shut the fuck up dumbass, if you knew anything about the engine you would know that it was DESIGNED by Mitsubishi and BUILT in a Chrystler factory to Mitsubishi's spefications, Its a DSM engine if you want to get technical, all the ones built before 95 are anyway, thats why they are slightly different than 95-99 420a's
kingofforza 10 months ago
@kingofforza 4g63 and 420a arent even similar your fuckin noob. ive owned 3 dsms asshole . 2 with a 4g63 and one with a 420a . so blow me. you dont know SHIT ... if it was a dsm engine it would say DSM on it NOT CHRYSLER . there isnt even any mitsubishi stampings on it ... oh thats right the 420a says made in mexico ... kinda at the CHRYSLER fascility... oh wait mitsubishi had a fascility in Mischigan ... hmmmm STFU MORON
MuhammadDerkaDerka 10 months ago
@MuhammadDerkaDerka Fuck you you fucking know-it-all prick, Ive owned 2 dsm's and i know they are built in fucking mexico, the DESIGN!!!!! is Mitsubishi SPECIFICATION!!!!! YOU FUCKING R>E>T>A>R>D!!!!! You arent even worth the 35 seconds i wasted typing this, go jump off a bridge
kingofforza 10 months ago
@kingofforza dsm werent built in mexico douchey dave... dsm were made in america . 420a and anything chrysler was made in mexico ...
MuhammadDerkaDerka 10 months ago
@MuhammadDerkaDerka FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING NO-LIFE TROLL!!!!! DO THE WORLD A FAVOR AND GO KILL YOURSELF!!!
kingofforza 10 months ago
@kingofforza aloit of talons came out of illinois. stop being a douche
maggot133515 9 months ago
@kingofforza and no they arent slightly different they are eway fucking different. piece or shit 420gays
maggot133515 9 months ago
@maggot133515 Hahahahaha shut the fuck up you know-it-all assholes, I know for a fact i am right, ive owned and worked on both and the fucking valve covers are even interchangable so what the fuck ever, you are right, i wouldnt know anything about them having owned both and worked on both and even SWAPPED PARTS on them but im wrong right? right, ok, fuck you, have a nice day :D
kingofforza 9 months ago
@kingofforza actually the 420a was designed and built by chrysler which was put into certain eclipse/eagle/laser models
icantellfakefromreal 9 months ago
@icantellfakefromreal BUILT TO "MITSUBISHI" "SPE C I F I C A TION" DO YOU KNOW HOW TO R E A D?????
kingofforza 9 months ago
@kingofforza chill the fuck out homie
icantellfakefromreal 9 months ago
@icantellfakefromreal Well im quite sick and tired of all these know-it-all pricks telling me im wrong when I OWN THE FUCKING THING!!!! The 420 a was also used in Avengers, stratuses, seabrings and fucking dodge/chrystler mini vans. but yet, i know nothing about the engine and how it is the EXACT same block as a NEON engine with a different head that is reversed, a.k.a the intake manifold is in the front and the exahust in the back. Yet again, here we are though ive said it three times now
kingofforza 9 months ago
@icantellfakefromreal see comment below @ maggot 133515
kingofforza 9 months ago
@kingofforza fuck you goof you can suck a fat one all i said was a chill comment and you come fuckin freaking out so fuck yourself i don't wanna see another dumb fuckin shitass comment comin from your keyboard you internet thug lol. peace
icantellfakefromreal 9 months ago
@icantellfakefromreal Then you shouldnt have replied dumbass
kingofforza 9 months ago
@icantellfakefromreal Im just sick of everyone being an expert on the situation without reading the comments beforehand and I admit, i did flip out a little about yours but its not like I dont know that the engine is in eclipses talons and lasers when i have owned a talon, a neon, my mom had a van with the engine and i currently own an eclipse with it too
kingofforza 9 months ago
@pOoPdIcK76 you are wrong also asshole.
MuhammadDerkaDerka 10 months ago
@MuhammadDerkaDerka and ur a bitch that tries to know shit but in reality ur just a shit talker with nothing better to do
pOoPdIcK76 10 months ago
DSM POWER even tho i love both cars :) i got a 1995 eagle talon esi :( gotta turbo it
GIDGrat 2 years ago
go dsm go!
bobdolesux321 2 years ago
30psi my ass
efp1103 2 years ago 27
Ya, on 30PSI the DSM would have pulled like crazy.
Londil 2 years ago
@efp1103 dosent look like it, but the engines will hold up to 30 PSI
hellzone100 1 year ago
@efp1103 LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BeastV6Stang 1 year ago
@efp1103 maybe 14-16, 30 psi is like SWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MegaCRuffy 1 year ago
Srt4s are not bad cars, its just if you turn the boost up something breaks
TalonTSISHP 2 years ago
@TalonTSISHP You do know that mopar sold an upgrade kit that will increase power (boost) to achieve a 100whp gain and still maintain the the daily driveability and reliability. If i had the extra time and money i'd put a 50 trim on mine and still drive it daily. Nothing will break. now dsms on the other hand....
hollow121314 1 year ago
both cars are 1G
calcatchem 2 years ago
the sad part is there was probably only a 14b in that talon
xEcStAcY 2 years ago
That's just ignorance. If you own or know anything about DSM's, you would instantly know that is not a 14b.
07tsala 2 years ago 3
I never see srt-4's win races, always makes me laugh
kaosracing386 2 years ago
they win sometimes...but in the end its still a neon lol
SWATKIID 2 years ago
yea me 2
teamlosiracer 2 years ago
Which is why the Talon was a great little sports coupe!
Blondets1 2 years ago 3
DSM really stands for Mitusbishi! Chrysler only used them.
Blondets1 2 years ago
diamond star motors means mitsubishi and chrysler . diamond is mitsubishi logo , star is the chrysler logo . plymouth eagle and mitsubishi had dsm cars . some dodge cars were built at the dsm plant also . including sebrings and avengers
Red97Avenger 2 years ago
I swear you watch every vid I watch. lol. You are always commenting on the same vids I watch.
07tsala 2 years ago
oh well lol
Red97Avenger 2 years ago
how can they make a tuner out of a american car? dodge srt-4 is a very bad car.
BloOdCraZy 2 years ago
Actually.. those cars have a lot of balls. I wouldn't mind owning one. But, until then. The talon tsi will work.
legendNdamaking 2 years ago
lol i know, its a ricer, its a domestic piece of shit tuner wannabe
italiandude91 2 years ago
this isn't and SRT-4..this is most likely a 2.0 dohc with a turbo, i doubt he'd be dumb enough to boost a SOHC..SRT-4 is a 2.4 turbo
greeleykid 2 years ago
wow dodge didnt make any tsi,lasers or anything remotely close to these awd cars you crack head. so youre saying dsm's are mopar then. lol dumb ass
silentsoul86 2 years ago