Convicted Child Rapist Warren Jeffs Groomed this grl from 2nd GRADE UP! raw footage

[sexykatie90]

thumbs up if you like Warren Jeffs Teen Flees FLDS raw footage

[Jubjub1878]

I thought it was ironic that Warren ended up in a jail called "Purgatory" after he went to jail. (Purgatory Correctional Facility). Ha ha... Hope you get gang raped in there Warren. You are a total piece of shit!!

[laydeeskie]

@LouisHeath5318 rofl. so wrong spammer s wrong.

[klassytome]

Middle Eastern little girls who marry under the age of 15 are called Death Brides or Brides of Death... Mainly because medical services are not as up to date as in the West. this is an example, Friday September 11, Fawziya Abdullah Youssef died in Yemen at the age of 12 her story is on YouTube.

The FLDS and the many other Mormon Polygyny offshoots are a closed and secretive society - (Many kids do not get birth or death certificates) - so there may be many poor little Fawziya's in the USA.

[klassytome]

To clarify 9-11-2009 Fawziya's death trying to give birth to a baby.

Little girls should not give birth to little girls and boys

"Pregnancy and childbirth are the leading cause of death for adolescent mothers in the world's poor countries" Save the Children

Read God's Brothel by Andrea Moore-Emmett, Church of Lies by Flora Jessop, Escape by Caroline Jessop, Stolen Innocence by Elissa Wall and Lost Boy by Brent Jeffs. These people were in the FLDS and have told what goes on in FLDS.

[evanmark]

She sounds completely sincere. I believe every word she is saying. Warren Jeffs is a convicted criminal and pedophile. People don't be fooled by brainwashed polygamist apologists in these comments... The FLDS community perpetrates horrific human rights abuses in their communities and on their own people and it's only a matter of time until the outside world breaks through.

[zrsgallygirl]

All I hear is a girl that has auditioned for the part, lead through the lines by an interviewer. Its a wonder you can't see the edge of cue-cards in the forground. She is giigleing through her lines! Traumatized my ass!

[jimmybryght]

Wow...you're as psychotic as Jeffs!

[fincenMIB]

@zrsgallygirl

Well she is grown up now and married, she can speak for herself and Warren is in Prison and will be tried in Texas for marrying 12 year olds. So at what age do you think children should be forced to marry???

[sticknNbookn]

Nobody gets to live their lives the way they want to. WTF is Texas going to do with all those kids??? It's going to be another Louisana deal? They flooded out and headed right to TX.

[zrsgallygirl]

Looking back: NO child was placed in a foster "home" all were in various DETENTION CENTERS! NO real evidence was ever produced that a call ever took place to CPS. NO charges were EVER filed. NO arrest for abuse took place. After months of interogation of the children in captivity, NO proof or even a HINT of a statement by a child was ever released by CPS.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT POLYGOMY, THIS IS NOT ABOUT SEX CRIMES, THIS ABOUT AN ATTACK ON A RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY BY AUTHORITIES ON U.S. SOIL!

[jimmybryght]

You're brainwashed.

[myrmecia1977]

The "attack" was too little too late, suck it up you pathetic perverted shit.

[llandod77]

its about stopping the evil of mind control, and about stopping pedophiles. they dont have the choice of who they marry, they dont get educated, you think that is religious freedom?

[dayvconsir]

@zrsgallygirl Interesting that women are the first to defend this way of life. So what elderly narcissist do you see yourself belonging to someday? I see independence of the mind and will as something sacred. There is a difference from a healthy concept of evil and it's consequences versus good and it's benifits but being forced into submission through fear and torment is a violation of the human spirit.

[Cissy2cute]

Face it-mostly a bunch of old men lusting after young girls. That's it. Period. And they found a way (religion) to justify it.

Absolutely disgusting.

[fincenMIB]

Well at 2 in the morning on the Tribune Blog in SLC Utah, the debate and arguing continued.

The FLDS faithful and Fundamentalist are trying to sway public opinion by dominating all conversations with a SHAME on TEXAS approach.

The Warren Jeffs confession they ignore stating its a fake. Warren Jeffs lip locked with a 12 year old bride, they say the picture is fake and or it was just a kiss!

In their society there is no touching before marriage!

These are a handful of apologist of FLDS

[Cissy2cute]

fincen-I by chance found their website that was put up shortly after their children had been removed from the compound.

"Outside" people-those who aren't chosen to be in the FLDS-are evil, damned etc. But they sure turn to these "evil" people when they are in trouble. They were soliciting for pro bono lawyers to help them get the children back. What hypocrits!

Maybe they would have their own lawyers if they didn't condemn education other then what they consider as acceptable.

[julrystube]

4.And would you really want to marry your cousin Larry?Im sure this will be critiqued and read incorrectly but I guess it is up for debate. Im not sure I will be the debater. Im just looking for answers. fincenmenMIB do you have any answers or ideas?

[julrystube]

1.They are taught from a very young age that we,the outsiders,are EVIL.If people from the outside world would forget about their anger or dislike for that particular religion,CPS and Government,God knows I dont need the government telling me when I can or cant pee,but put all of that aside and look at the little things getting covered by the anger and dislike. Its their true learning of hate for us even the lawyers working with them to get there children back right now.

[julrystube]

2.And doesnt it make anyone think what is going to happen in 10-12 years when Jeffs gets out?He is not going to be any nicer and yet he will still be there Prophet.Its just a proposed question. Why cant we think ahead and look at those details?And how can we just let them alone?

[julrystube]

3.We have heard boys,women and men who have either left because they have been kicked out,escaped or banished because of the Prophets own dislike and this banished man to leave after years of believing and asking for forgiveness from the Prophet but yet his wifes were still assigned to other husbands and daughters assigned to new families. Is that a family when one man known as the Prophet can play musical chairs with family members?

[NOSERPICOINUTAH]

@Cissy2cute ....WE HAVE ALL BEEN CALLED OUT OF BABYLON...FEW HAVE HEARD THE VOICE OF ALMIGHTY GOD....THE BRIDE OF GOD IS BEING PERSECUTED BY THE FOLLOWERS OF SATAN AS REVEALED IN THE HOLY BIBLE ....READ REVELATION....THE ANTICHRIST WILL SOON COME INTO HIS 3 AND A HALF YEAR LEADERSHIP OVER THE N.W.O.....BUT FIRST WAR PLAGUES, DROUGHT FAMINE ,EARTHQUAKES, DEATH BECAUSE OF SIN....DO YOU FOLLOW SATAN OR JESUS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD?....JESUS COMES SOON.....WAKE UP!

[banjotune22]

@NOSERPICOINUTAH Seriously?! Your stupid.

[Mwithoutpolygamy]

at least warren jeffs goes the way the actual mormons are suppose to live up as jack asses lol. joseph smith jack ass!

[cne08]

Warren Jeffs is a BASTARD!

[INDLIS]

He also an ASSHOLE!

He is also a sexual predator.

[tubeuser999]

Don't worry INDLIS, Jeffs is getting corn-holed every night by his 10 new husbands in prison.

[INDLIS]

I hope he does and I mean he spends the rest of his life in prison. The same thing should be said to Orson William Black if we catch him.

[obscureluzername]

Lol, I hope so.

[euromann12]

The real joke is on us.

You people that grew up in closed groups are very lucky. When life goes bad, you have something to get out of, there is always the second chance, the outside world.

But for us, it is hopeless. Life goes bad, game over. Where can a runaway kid run to?

Drugs?,suicide? Some of the more creative kids tried to escape a life gone bad, by becoming school shooters. It happens. Adults have tried the same way out, remember the killed Amish girls?

But you people, are lucky.

[Tishm3]

This is a very brave, intelligent and beatiful young lady. Her Courage is amazing.

[CRISTO359]

"She is a woman who is smart, intelligent, and knows right from wrong." also, she gave birth to...8!!! kids and she still looks as good as a teenager!!!!

In what kind of environment such a woman grow up? I want to know. What exactly they eat there?

She doesn't look fat at all!! I think that we have finally found the solution to overweight, cardiovascular deceases, Infertility, and the land were the women don't need face lifts!

WHERE DID SUCH A WOMAN CAME FROM AGAN?

[fincenMIB]

Different Caroline Cooke vs Carolyn Jessop, Sorry.

[euromann12]

Well ,(to let you into the joke) I follow the current legal definition that "these" people are all the same, all men are 50 years old, and all women are 15. That is the current verdict. Ids, make no difference.

Story: "FLDS man seeks wife's release from state custody"

[Rachaelj1975]

If she married at 12 and began producing at 13 she could concievably have had 8 children by 20-21. Since her body will have barley finished its own growth process it is far easier to bounce back. Having said that I really hope the comment was tounge in cheak otherwise it's just offensive.

[jjason55740]

if it's possible for a 12 year old to survive a child birth .

[demoncentral]

I read "Escape" By Carolyn Jessop.. I can't begin to express how brainwashed these people are and how difficult it is for them to leave behind the awful but only life they know..

[fincenMIB]

The Deseret News ran her story today in SLC and Pro FLDS tried to trash her! If you want to join in on the news blogs there we are out numbered. She had great courage to leave with 8 children. I really enjoyed her book also.

JB

[julrystube]

Im not surprised that they would trash her. She is a woman who is smart,intelligent, and knows right from wrong. Her story speaks for whats right and tells the horrid truths of what has happened with her life behind thoes FLDS gates. That makes them mad. Seeing what they write on youtube speaks volumes.Its mostly foul and unintelligent. Carolyns book is a wonderful book which took bravery to write. Im sure it was not a simple tasks!

[amyliz0688]

yeah i'm reading Escape too and it's very interesting and very sad but well written. she's an incredibly brave woman.

[barb554]

I wonder how many testimonies it will take to convince people that Jeffs charge on the 14 year old girl is tip of iceberg as to how he has manipulated and destroyed, literally hundreds of lives. Unfortunately this mad man has gotten away with basically murder of spirits and people as well as other issues of forcing marriages, sending wives from their known husbands and spreading hatred about black people. He is the epitome of evil. It is a huge story we only know the tip of iceberg of harms.

[fincenMIB]

There are about a dozen current or past FLDS members trolling the blogs trying to press the constitutional issues of the Texas raid and trying to dig up the arguements of the 1953 SHORT CREEK raid.

This is a much larger issue, it is about soul rape and murder, using damnation as a means to mind and body control. The rush to judge Texas before the DNA results! 31 of 53 girls underage were with child or Pregnant, the headlines today!

I was in Colorado City last week lobbying for a library

[fincenMIB]

There are many options for helping the the victims, but the constitutional rights apologist are not seeking ways to improve the lives of woman and children, but rather want unrestricted access to underage sex in the name of their religion!

If that is a protected action, its time to find these posters and determine the lifestyles they are desperately tring to protect. There may be little girls at risk, yet to be discovered!

Search the user names here and GOOGLE them, then cross search!

[Tishm3]

Wouldn't it be funny if individuals in law enforcement are reading and taking notes on the comments made by FLDS members.

[barb554]

I have not vested interest in this topic other than what I have read or seen in the media. It truly horrifies me now that more truths are coming in the open. These people have been hiding behind a "cloak of supposed decency" for far too long. Others knowingly turned a blind eye. I agree with your description of the atrocities that have resulted and will continue for long to come over this type of lifestyle. Jeffs may be more than an average dangerous zealot, but this is the tip of iceberg.

[Tishm3]

Have received comments from people I believe to be a part of the FLDS. Want to argue about any comment you make.

[barb554]

I have to rephrase that: "murder of the spirits of people".

[julrystube]

I have been debating with this idiot who claims many things untrue on the youtube video Carolyn Jessop - Escaping from the FLDS. I appreciate seeing people like finceMIN, Belle19700, eddskiver, and many more of you who are clerly on top of the issues. Thanks for that!

[fincenMIB]

Carolyn is dead on accurate! I was in Colorado city 2 days ago meeting with apostates and Associated Press. If these apologist want to be credible they need to use real names and come out in the open!

Any one can claim anything, but up against scutny that includes law enforcement those hiding behind an alias are cowards who allow this abuse to continue.

Jay

[barf62]

I want to commend the provider of these videos for helping me understand more about the situation. I hope the girl is able to do with her life what she indicated. I am interested to know if all who remain in the FLDS church in Colorado City are supporters of the control exercised over these women and girls, or is it just a smaller group who are mainly to blame?

[fincenMIB]

The priesthood leaders or men, blindly follow the leader with what is refered to and Perfect Obedience! This said their are many factions up in Hildale & Colorado City decent people who still believe in polygamy, but not in Warren Jeffs and others who live there still, but have long abandoned the faith.

I have dear friends up there, not to be confused with those who follow Warren.

We were working to get a Public Library in the last 3 days and we NEED BOOKS! Those with newer hardbacks?

[fincenMIB]

Please read Carolyn Jessops book ESCAPE, I am half way through in 3 days and it reflects what I learned as the FOR KIDS SAKE rep working this area. Its is accurate and for those of us who know the family and the names, it clears up those nagging questions about the Eldorado raid.

Her X Merrill Jessop is the loyal BIG FISH in Texas, along with Willie Jessop! Its a extremely interesting read on the child and womans perspective. Read then debate the issue here. Debate what you know!

[julrystube]

fincenMIB, I agree with you 110 percent!

[fincenMIB]

Thank you! The investigator for Mohave county is Gary E. he knows me and I him. These anonymous posters can meet me at the sheriff's trailer in CC any time they want to address issues and ID themselves. Chosing not to, tells you how credible they are.

[Belle19700]

2. Jeffs was accused of using his religious influence over his followers to coerce a 14-year-old girl into marriage to her 19-year-old cousin. The girl, Elissa Wall, testified that she repeatedly told Jeffs that she did not want to be married and was uncomfortable with sexual advances from her husband, Allen Steed. jeffs advised her to pray and to submit to her husband, learn to love him and bear his children -- or "RISK LOSING HER ETERNAL SALVATION."

[Belle19700]

1. The great prophet of the flds! What a resume! If this sick freak is their great leader, God only knows the extent of abuse in the flds. How many flds members have said there are no underage marriages? Good Christians don't LIE!

A Utah judge Tuesday sentenced polygamist sect leader Warren Jeffs to 2 consecutive prison terms of 5 years to life for his conviction on 3 counts of being an accomplice to "RAPE." Jeffs will serve at least 10 years.

[eddskiver]

The evidence is that sick men "spiritually marry girls who are at puberty. I stated mine when I was 10! SICK The bed in the Temple thousands of abuse testimonies, lots of kicked out boys(for the older men to have the young) The men know they cant marry moer than 1 wife legally and the young so they have these "spiritual" marriages and make these girls with their first period "fruit the earth"! The script is taken abusively. Anyone can translaet anything to their liking. Help these children

[shmoab]

Absolutely ridiculous! Even the police state of Texas is claiming FLDS children are more educated than the populous.

This is a poor, transparent attempt at discrediting the FLDS in any way you can. It's really pathetic.

[fincenMIB]

shmoab

I am in the FLDS community of Colorado City right now! What do you know of this community, if any thing? Today a "Friends of the Library" was started, because the prophet had banned books from the outside! KNOWLEDGE IS POWER and books are that path! Next a branch of the county library we hope!

Those who want to step into the 21st century need new hatdback books of every subject and bookshelves. If you want to have an impact, which one can you supply?

Actions speak louder than word

[winkwink04]

what do you mean by semi-successful runaway? did she go back?

[fincenMIB]

The washington county sheriff returned her to her father on the provision she could live with an uncle outside the FLDS. The father at the time was under investigation for Incest, because he took his 2nd wives daughter as his 3rd wife. It was West Valley Utah PD case #00-87790 under detective Rackley.

It forced activist Les Zitting to contact the uncle to get Power of Attorney for the juvenile, so as to prevent the father from picking her up again after the news coverage blew over.

[fincenMIB]

It was successful in the end, but by no help from the sheriff, the same in office today, who was told of the incest investigation prior to him returning the female minor to the dad. The father married the one step daughter and tried to marry 3 more in Samantha, Roberta jr. & Anita, all daughters of Roberta Mackert his second wife.

[carneyobama100]

What a fraud.

Don't you know that adding interference to your video makes it look MORE fake.

[sargmann]

FLDS are just Scum hidding things from the general public and the Authorities to get away with having sex with underage girls, bunch of Pedos!!! they should all be held accountable and go to Jail, Bastards!!!!

[SailorV85]

they pretend to be a religion, it's just an organization for nymphomaniacs and pedophiles!

[ThreeHourBreaks]

The cops could have handled this the way they handle other cases of reported abuse: without hauling hundreds of children off to be placed in nonWhite homes and made victims of nonWhite sexual preditors.

[MoFoBroman]

I think you're right. Let them stay with their own white sexual preditors like they have all along. Those bitches are scary looking. I wouldn't fuck them with ten rubbers on. Warren Jess is a piece of cracker shit and his crying pedefile ass is right where he belongs. So kudos to you. You can have those ugly bitches. I'll stick to regular bueatiful white woman. UNINDOCTRINATED!

[renton07]

just goes to show that just because someone believes something does not mean that it is right.

[fincenMIB]

Well if you want to help, the Salt Lake City Tribune Blog & Deseret Newspaper Blog at the end of each FLDS story is dominated by pro fundamentalist. We who are trying to address the abuses and human rights issue, are being attacked for doing so. IS IT A UTAH THING?

If you wish to add a voice of reason to the debates, come over and help out! One article yesterday has already generate 36 pages of comments, favoring the RIGHTS of Fundamentalist to do as they chose with therir off spring.

[dancingsylph]

three cheers for indoctrination!

[MoRRisoNRisiN]

warren jeffs just wants to have sex with little girls but he thought doing it this way was right? he is worse than any child molester ive ever seen. he obviously manipulated all those people into thinking it is the right thing to do.. well its not those girls dont even have mature enough minds to know whats really right. its just sick to think grown men are having sex with little girls and they think its right cause there married to them they should take the women and children out and nuke it!!

[3o5ni66a]

Ahhhhhh religion at its finest

[jdmstar]

Well hey look there is over 6 billion people on this earth killing all the sick men that did this execution style .. i doubt anyone would miss them

[NigelTempleton]

This group's belief in "God" is MEANINGLESS! What a racket man, to have as many wives as you want and as young as 13. To rationalize having sex with a 13 year old as "God's" commandment. WHAT A FREAKING RACKET! I'd like to take all the men in this cult and fuck them in the ass and say this is "God's" commandment to me.

[pious66]

Are we powerless ?? If the authorities fail to protect childrebn then its up to us to do it, the law was abided by and has failed, we as freedom loving people must make it our duty to storm these communes and take the leaders prisoner, and free the brain washed from there servitude, this is a call to arms !!!!!!!!!!!

[NiGhtMaReIDoL]

I can see why they hate liberals

[fayaztarin]

lol.. the funny thing is that no body does anything about this.. send the police and 10 bulldozers and destroy all their buildings, free all those ppl and put the ones who r guilty in prison..

[fincenMIB]

You are probably right, we have signed letters from Senator Orrin Hatch & John McCain, both of which passed the buck in 2001. Children were abused since. We had letters to city police, county sheriff, attorney generals, CPS, DFS, the FBI, legislators and progress was slow to nil. When Jeffs got on the FBI list it helped, but even then there were only 2 assigned FBI agents!

[fincenMIB]

By MICHELLE ROBERTS

Associated Press Writer

ELDORADO, Texas -- Child welfare officials say they have removed nearly 200 women and children from a West Texas retreat built by polygamist leader Warren Jeffs.

[AnOrigLostBoy70]

Are either or "ANY" of our Three Presidential Candidates willing to even "Comment" on the current happenings in Texas and the "Brushed-Under-the-Rug" Issues that UTAH and ARIZONA have both only talked about(for years now).  "THE ABUSE OF MEN, WOMEN AND ESPECIALLY CHILDREN" in these "Self Governed" so called CHURCHES is horrific.

Thank You TEXAS for at least caring enough to "try". Thank You Texas for seeing that this issue really is REAL.

[AnOrigLostBoy70]

This is our Presidents home State and Arizona is John McCain's home State. Is this a possible issue Mr. McCain?? ... or is this tooooo touchy a subject for Presidential Potentials? And The FLDS (now split into close to a dozen groups) are not alone on these issues. You've taken a Very "HUGE" bite Texas. Please be very careful how you chew it.

[BooBooLane]

Just as our borders could be closed shut in a matter of weeks, these FLDS compounds could be systematically taken apart.

Lots of guys would like to go Moslem, grab 4 wives and spend most of their time servicing them. What are we gonna do--start euthanizing or uh, ABORTING 80% of American boys? FLDS men need to be pubically hanged.

[AnOrigLostBoy70]

These "PEOPLE" have endured much under the Dictatorship of Mr. Jeffs and they will even make it through this ordeal... And believe me, they really do believe that "Law" in Texas is sticking it's nose in the wrong place and has no business doing so. Any COMMENTS --- go ahead!

[Matriarch57]

Mr Jeffs is in jail. Taking away children away from abused mothers is just not the correct the way to go. On television women said they would do whatever the government would require them to do to keep their children. The women need help so that they can get free to take care of their children.

Women being punished is not the way to fly.

FDLS pays good money in taxes. If the state can not help the women help themselves then have people come on to the ranch to check out what is happening.

[watersigns01]

Okay, we can do that, but it won't change most of them. They've been brainwashed, there's not a whole lot you do about that, especially when religion was used to keep the lifestyle going.

[MillionaireMC]

thats the shame here - innocent children being exploited. I believe God would definately not be happy with that

[spudmustang]

Polygamy aside, this is child prostitution. I can accept multiple unions between consenting adults, but it's obvious that these poor girls were just a commodity to Warren Jeffs. It's sad that these things happen in America.

[ironman147]

perfectly put... dont forget the 'lost boys' who were helplessly abandoned in nearby towns, hundreds of them, many on the side of a highway road with virtually no education of the outside world, forced into shanty homes or themselves forced into prostitution... I'd like to rip that Jeffs head off and shit down his neck

[spudmustang]

It's clearly a broken society that does not value freedom or human rights. Their "religious freedom" is obviously oppressing the freedoms of others, and it needs to stop.

[shmoab]

OMG!

You are so blind. The broken society is the USA. It does not value freedom. I wish to know your name so I can tell everybody I know who is the most ignorant person I've come into contact with.

[spudmustang]

shmoab...if you want your views to be taken seriously, express them without using childish insults. As a Libertarian I can respect your view that the United States doesn't value freedom or personal privacy. However, it's one thing to practice a religion and quite another to force it upon another. Coercing young girls to marry and have sex shows little respect for personal freedom. If this is such a wonderful concept, why not wait until the girls are older and allow them to choose for themselves?

[jakespop56]

Another thought, what about the young boys and young men who are taught that this perversion of religion is righteous? They need to be deprogrammed as well. As for the sons of the leaders like Warren Jeffs, I saw the picture of his son Levi. That guy looks about as intelligent as a pile of dog shit. He's probably to full of his fathers bullshit to ever get his head straight.

[tipsypyro]

these people are just pedophiles hiding behind religion. Religion has nothing to do with this . this is a cult.They are actually worshipping a man. Let's not make it something it's not.

[Bunny456]

It's not the things you don't know that will get you in trouble. It's the things you know for sure that just aren't so. Religions are based on nothing, which is fine when you keep your beliefs to yourself. Unfortunately, when you fuck up someone else's life because of your ridiculous made-up fairy-tale bullshit, it becomes criminal. Shut this shit down permanently.

[Djcandymann]

good... from the wording of the video i wasn't sure if she went back or stayed out

[fincenMIB]

The local sheriff gave her back to her father conditional that he would let her leave the religion and live with an uncle. We contacted the uncle to have him demand "power of attorney" as guardian. It worked out, but no thanks to authorities.

[fincenMIB]

Her father had 3 wives and 23 kids. His second wive Roberta had a daughter afton, whom he married as his 3rd wife. 3 more sisters coming up who knew Marvin Cook as stepfather, begged outside placements, one at age 15 to avoid following Afton. Local authorities ignored all this!

[Djcandymann]

wow

[fincenMIB]

She was 15 at the time. Warren Jeffs was councilling her once a week for 30 minutes, from the 2nd to the 6th grade, when she was pulled from school. She believed he was grooming her to be one more of his wives, he only has about 70 now!

[Djcandymann]

do you know where she is now?

[fincenMIB]

Yes, she is 22 and married and living with the rights and privilages the rest of U.S. citizens know.

[fincenMIB]

Sorry HottieJamie22 you do this by choice, the child here had no options. Promoting tease videos is fine in america, but exploiting young teens to be breeders to become a BIGGER GOD in the next life, CAN NOT STAND as a protected Religious Freedom!

[jizbotika]

thx

[fincenMIB]

Just getting the truth out there! The prophet was found guilty in the Utah courts, to be sentenced on November 20th. The next trial will be in Kingman, AZ. Listen to Warren Jeffs speak in the other videos and you tell me, what is intent was.