"...Thou, O God, shall bring them down into the pit of destruction: bloody & deceitful men shall not live out half their days, but I will trust in thee." Psalm 55:23 "Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person."~Deuteronomy 27:25 "...the LORD hates... hands that shed innocent blood..." Proverbs 6:16-19
Speaking of slaughtering babies...it's rather fitting that Congress will use "Slaughter House Rule" to "Deem" the bill as passed. It's unconstitutional, but so is taking life.
The new terms they use now to try to clean up the filthy stench of death that comes with the word "abortion" is to use the term, a woman's "reproductive rights." But now they need to come up with a new term explaining how a woman's "reproductive rights" trumps her child's right to live his or her life. And when they do, that will be about the time we're all saying Heil Hitler! Because we will no longer be any better then they were.
Thats what Tryanny is all about. You do what your told and shut up. Who cares if you dont like it. We are the Government and you are the sheeple. Now give me your money cause there are lots of fetuses that need killin'! And dont worry about a few of em makin' it....Obama will chase em down all through clinic if needed!
Abortion is often claimed to be a "personal choice", but when it is publicly financed, it would only be ethical if every person had a say in each abortion. This is a horrible violation of freedom, as people will be forced to finance the abortions of others. Sluts should just be put on an island to raise their bastards, because the vast majority of abortion patients are losers, incapable of making an informed choice. If they were capable, wouldn't they have chosen effective contraception?
Sebelius continues the work of her friend and financial contributor to her campaigns, George Tiller. It chills me to the bone to hear her talk about womens "Right to choose" health services. Right to choose being Murder and slaughter of our innocent babies.
*they arent our babies...they arent yours or mine.*
Translation, We are not responsible for what we allow as a society.
Abortion is barbaric, yet its typically considered a convenient *option*. It should not be condoned nor should EVERYONE as taxpayers have to fund it under this oppressive health care bill should it pass.
Like it or not, all members of any society are responsible for allowing such crimes against humanity. This bill exposes that connection.
im not gonna share my opinion on abortion because i dont think its relevant....primarily because it isnt my body...
guess what...there are a lot of things that my tax dollars go to, and a lot of those things i dont condone. and im sure everyone else has something they dont want their money going towards...
EnhancementSmoker: clearly, you think killing babies is something you should be able to dictate but we who pay for it should just consider part of our tax paying duty. Though you can't seem to express yourself without profanity, I can. IT IS MY MONEY AND IT IS MY BUSINESS.
They favor semantics over sincerity. It all boils down to who will defend the defenseless. It's a clash of values, involving those that do value life and those who don't. Those that don't are likely driven by a heartless political agenda while we are driven by a commandment and a sincere respect for mankind. They are the *baby killers* and they intend to use our money to implicate us even though we are the conscientious objectors.
The American left put a spear through America's heart when they deliberately opened the border and created a bizarre and terrible legal right to infanticide in the 1960s.
America, apart from an all-to-brief burst of world-altering brilliance in 1980s thanks to Reagan, has been in decline ever since.
America is now overrun by ignorant, docile, welfare-teet suckling 3rd-world peasants and 40 million Americans have died in a holocaust more savage and cruel than any other in all human history.
god i hate democrats and republicans fighting, give it a rest. we get you hate each other, and how much smarter and better you believe your own political party is over the other. jesus.
You may want to consider this is not simply D vs. R. Its a clash of ideology, from liberal to conservative. Heres the party breakdown according to Rasmussen:
20% Democrat
37% Independent
40% Republican
Independents dominate the TEA party movement, which is *conservative*.
Current political decisions are quite unpopular and people will speak their minds. Yes, debate can become uncivil. Remember the *question authority* 60s?
hey liberals im gonna start a business hauling aborted fetises of irresponsible liberals who want their free abortion to the local landfill. all i need now is a truck and a pitchfork. maybe ill start a clinic also. i have a few rusty coathangers lying around. my motto will be " you make em we scrape em. no fetis can beat us. great job indeed liberal douches
The day I know about them making taxpayers pay for abortions (for reasons other than to save the life of the mother) is the last day my family pays taxes. They can throw us into the streets. They can arrest us. They can kill us. But they won't get a penny from us to fund the shedding of innocent blood. I'll pay for sterilizations, but not murder.
Yes women should be able to get abortions at taxpayer's expense but sterilization should be part of the process if the pregnancy was not due to a criminal act; otherwise they pay with their own cash.
Back to the Jim Crow laws. Really? Jim Crow laws were shot down in Brown vs. The Board of Education in 1954. They violated the 14th ammendment and were unconstitutional. This is why we have a Constitution. Furthermore, if you embraced the 10th ammendment, each State could choose whether or not abortion was right for their State. As it is now, there is nothing in the Constitution granting the right to abortion, the 9th ammendment argument is a house of cards in my opinion.
The Jim Crow laws were on the books for 90 years before the Brown decision. The Jim Crow laws were originally upheld by the Supreme Court in Plessy vs Ferguson in 1896. Justice delayed is justice denied.
You know if a dead baby, in the ruble of one of the countrys that we bombed the shit out of, had the sense to climb back up its mother"s womb the Republicans would probably care that it died!
Why don't you give a shit for our living children?
>> Oh yeah, and don't forget we should all give our money to the wealthy, so it will "trickle down to the poor"!
Yeah, you're right. Because in comparison, the Liberal economic idea of money trickling UP from the poor would REALLY stimulate the economy and job creation sooooo much better!
Think about it the GOPers believe: -Govt? regulation is bad, -The ACLU is trying to take away our freedoms, -Tree huggers are stupid, -The EPA is destroying business, -Unions are all corupt, -Trial lawyers (who fight Corporate greed and power) are destroying the nation, -Protesters are WACKOS, -Making the wealthy pay their fair share in taxes is just mean -The educated are "Elitists" etc. etc. WAKE UP! Who benefits from all these manufactured beliefs? Corporate America you TOOLS!
It really doesn't make sense to force somebody who has a deep rooted belief in the concept of being "prolife", to make them pay taxes for something they oppose so strongly. Abortion is going to be around for a while, honestly i'm fine with it, but it shouldn't be forced upon others who think its fundamentally wrong to pay for it.
Hey, I don't know if you're pro-life or pro-choice, but that was one of the few sane, considerate comments on here. I am pro-life for religious reasons and it distresses me to be forced into being part of something I believe is murder. At the very least, you take the ABSOLUTE EARLIEST any preemie has ever been born, and THAT can be agreed as "when life begins". That is my belief, I'm not gonna stop you if you disagree, but please don't force me to take part.
Sad this abortion bill will be passed as Christians celebrate the birth of the Christ child. God will not be mocked. For these 'politicians' to sell their soul so that they can promote the evil that is abortion is a sad state of affairs. But to the libs abortion is their sacred cow.
One day, Sebelius, Obama, and all those who support the slaughter of innocent, defenseless life will have to stand before Almighty God to answer for their willingness and endorsement to murder His greatest gift....life. Spin in it anyway you wish, God will not be mocked and He will dish out His justice. God have mercy on these blinded, deceived souls.
its amazing 2,000 y after his death still celebrations of his death & Resurrection occur
the bible not even a book its letters person to person recording the life of Jesus. Writings of the Jewish nation (ot)
there is a new contract in his blood ,,, yes his blood that spilled on the earth never to be recovered a whole blood line wiped out illegally, to save legally you and me ,, A loving Gods free gift just take it & escape the fire.
Yes, if you support Sebelius you support genocide. If you support Obama you are a traitor to the U.S. Constitution. Apparently your parents did a poor job teaching you ethics. You'll burn in hell anyways.
@Devvrrrs88 Yeah, the Reptilian Shapeshifters in conjunction with the Nazis on the Moon have been conspiring to make sprinkler rainbow in order to raise the temperature of the earth and make south american gnomes spring up so they can send them back to Mars, where the pyramid is. It is also the base of the galactic emperor, Xenu, and his face of "mystic" super-creatures we know of as Loch Ness Monster, Big Foot, etc., etc.
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Why do Republicans, who are always pontificating about small government, support giving the government the power to force a woman to carry a fetus against her will?
Abortion is murder!!!! Plain and simple....since when was MURDER a choice? A woman has a choice not to get pregnant by keeping their legs closed or getting sterilized. Pretty much "STOP BEING A HO!!!!" so you dont get pregnant.
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No, abortion is not murder. And you have a really twisted view of women.
You believe that women should only have sex for purposes of getting pregnant? And any woman who has sex for any other reason is a "HO"? Do you oppose contraception, too? Do you think that every woman who gets pregnant should be forced by the government to carry the fetus against her will?
Forget flowery prose about "miracles of creation" and so on. Let's deal with cold, hard FACTS. Sperm and egg united, that's a growing HUMAN BEING in the womb. Not a plant... not some undigested piece of food... not a CD you misplaced... it's a BABY. More important, as research has shown, a baby that CAN sense its surroundings. And last I checked, killing sentient things in a premeditated, cold blooded way IS murder.
No one said anything about miracles of creation, undigested food or misplacing CDs.
There is a long history of jurisprudence and religious literature which makes very clear distinctions between abortion and murder. A fetus which cannot survive outside the womb is not a human being.
My point is this: As repugnant as one may find abortion, giving the government the power to force a woman to carry a fetus against her will is worse. Beyond that, it is simply none of your business.
Nice try at dodging things, but you're missing the POINT of the debate. The point is there are laws that say Federal taxpayer money cannot be used... EVER... to pay for abortions. But what sack of crap Sebelius (who proved she loves to kill babies during her term as governor) wants to do is some creative accounting to shift taxpayer money to a side fund and THEN divert it to abortions, like a bad magician doing a slight of hand card trick.
The question is really about individual liberty coupled with personal responsibility. Excluding cases of rape or incest, unwanted pregnancy is generally the result of a lack of personal responsibility. If you take no responsibility, you are entitled to no personal liberties. I realize Ayn was pro chice but I disagree with her on this subject. The idea of rational self interest sits well with me however I do not find it rational to abort an individual not yet capable of acting on their own....
rational self interest. One reason we are experiencing the nullification of many of our liberties in this country is due to the lost emphasis on personal responsibility. As an aside, mine is a secular view and ultimately I believe abortion an issue that should not be left to the federl government but to the States.
"an issue that should not be left to the federal government but to the states"
We tried that with civil rights, remember? It led to 75 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow. It led to bans on contraception and interracial marriage, too.
@AtlasShruggery There are only 2 possible ways in which to become pregnant. One is rape, the other is to willing do so.
Whither it be through In Vitro Fertilization or consensual fornication between two acting adult's. You have indeed chosen to become pregnant.
Why then should Society be forced to foot the bill for a woman who does not wish to take responsibility for her body and her actions?. How is it against her will when she chose to do so?
I know you RepubliCons would like to pretend that these wars began on January 20, 2009. After all, Junior and the Bushees are an embarrassment to all of us. But it's gonna take a little longer than 11 months to clean up the monumental mess you GOPers made.
>> it's gonna take a little longer than 11 months to clean up the monumental mess you GOPers made.
And it could take decades to clean up the mess Obama has created in a mere year -- but thankfully the reclamation project will roar into effect in 2010, followed by Obama being replaced by a REAL president in 2012.
Atlas, for someone who (judging by the screen-name) admires Ayn Rand, you seem not to have grasped very much of what she taught. A REAL president would be one who respects the constitution- NOT a socialist/marxist sympathizer who has, in the past, expressed his wish to replace it.
Ayn Rand? Ayn Rand was an egomanical sociopath who wrote boring fiction. Unfortunately, Ayn Rand groupies like Alan Greenspan didn't Go Galt before wrecking the US economy.
So, are you one of those Small Government RepubliCons who supports giving the government the power to force a woman to carry a fetus against her will?
Exactly when did Obama express his "wish" to "replace" the Constitution? Please be specific.
You leftie liberals are SOooo against Bush and the 800 billion dollar deficit that the wars have brought about after almost a decade of spending, but are SOo in love with the obama and spending TRILLIONS in just months.
By the way, a REAL President does what the people who elected them to office want done. They do not hold closed-door meetings to figure out ways to lie to the people about how they are trying to 'help' them. Remember the campaign promises of transparency?
Jim Crow continued. If you want a lasting solution to your issue, embracing the 10th ammendment argument would satisfy your wishes permanantly if only in some States. I fear for you that Roe v. Wade will be overturned when the make up of the court changes.
This is absolutely disgusting and vile. This HCB is a huge rock in the pocket of a nation already struggling to keep its head above water & I'm afraid it will be the one that finally pulls us under.
Democrats hate choice when it comes to working, running a business, or receiving health care services. But they love it when it comes to aborting babies.
Archbishop Wuerl of Washington has NO PROBLEM giving Communion to this evil, bigoted woman. Although Wuerl is too spineless to take a position, her bishop back home has done so. Wuerl has said he will abide by the home bishop's decision.
Too bad he doesn't have any testicles of his OWN.
All you women out there that can spread your legs and get knocked up, do us all a favor and pay for your own damn abortion. It's bad enough that you don't mind killing an unborn child, but the fact that you now won't even cough up the money to pay for it, makes it even more disgusting.
Abortion defined as..."a woman's health choice". A woman's right...to kill her unborn.
When the masses of the U.S. middle class have lost their homes, wealth and health while living on the streets sustaining themselves by eating alley rats and raw sewage, I can start my new fast food place...slogan...
We kill a fetus...so you all can eatus.
Would you like that flame broiled or deep fried?
Special amniotic sauce?
And a side of placenta fries on the side with an afterbirth shake?
To "mushroomhead777": Actually, there are some similarities in the logic used to justify the killings during the holocaust and today's abortion killings. Quoting Franz Stangl, death camp commandant: "(The killings) had nothing to do with humanity - it was a mass. I rarely saw them as individuals. It was always a mass." This is exactly how the pro-choicers have tried to describe (and dehumanize) the unborn baby: "What is aborted is a protoplasmic mass and not a real, live grown-up individual".
this scum bucket sat by idly as Pat Tiller performed late 3rd term abortions in her state... She accepted campaign contributions from him and defended him as a good man... She is an embarrasment to the Democratic party...
Varying degrees of choice, the majority are rational and think it's ok until the end of the first trimester or until it has a detectable heart beat wanting for provisions for the life of the mother thereafter and that the person does it on their own accord, not on the government coffer. Then there are folks like Sebelius who criticize Republicans for being anti-science yet she ignores the evidence in a sonogram and wants it available up until 8 months and 30 days
We'll all be forced to contribute to the slaughter of innocent babies.
A few decades from now, most all will look at this era like we do the Holocaust and have the same disgust as we do for the Germans that were also complicit or were in denial.
"Progressivism" is the most regressive and most barbaric ideology that has happened in American history......including slavery.
VideoSeattle, I watched some of your vid you are referring to and will finish the rest in a few minutes. Just wanted to let you know that so far, it is a great video. Keep 'em coming!
When it comes to forcing people to pay for others' abortion, the "pro-choice" groups want us to have "no-choice". On this matter, the "pro-choice" groups are "imposing" their abortion funding "morality" on everybody. They expect others, regardless of moral conviction, to pick up the tab for abortions.
Double standards and bate & switch are standard tricks used by these authoritarians. Their collective arrogance and quest for power corrupts everyone, and the ante-dote is term limits. They ignore the conservative uprising and are hell-bent on passing crappy law...plus they just added an unprecedented requirement of a SUPERMAJORITY (67) to REPEAL. This $2.5 Trillion in deficit spending will bankrupt us.
Ben (AKA Benedict Arnold) bought off on this calculated trick, thinking he covered his bases. Wrong! When you depart from such a principle, you betray yourself. In this case you betrayed a vast majority of your countrymen.
You, Ben, are a TRAITOR and a LIAR! You SWORE to uphold our Constitution and FAILED. Get out of MY country!
Maybe a woman should start making the choice to use condoms or birth control pills before she decides to lie down with a man. The only power abortion bestows on a woman is the power to act irresponsible. I WILL NEVER PAY FOR ANY ABORTION.
"...Thou, O God, shall bring them down into the pit of destruction: bloody & deceitful men shall not live out half their days, but I will trust in thee." Psalm 55:23 "Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person."~Deuteronomy 27:25 "...the LORD hates... hands that shed innocent blood..." Proverbs 6:16-19
ggammel 1 year ago
Hey Sebelius !
Do you get off slaughtering babies ?
Or do you know that without this bogus issue that left winggers cooked up in the 70's you cant win elecitons ???
I think you know that without this bogus idea of Womens rights YOU CANT WIN !
The morning after pill (Plan B) IS GAME OVER FOR LIBERALS !!!!!
This is why you cling to abortion, isnt it???
Come on Kathy, tell us !!!
Are you a murderer or just a lying liberal who knows your whole premise is based on lies ???
electroman076 1 year ago
@electroman076
Speaking of slaughtering babies...it's rather fitting that Congress will use "Slaughter House Rule" to "Deem" the bill as passed. It's unconstitutional, but so is taking life.
VideoSeattle 1 year ago
One question.. I just saw a commerical for Plan B, as an over the counter pill (The Morning After Pill)...
So why in the world would be contiune to support and fund Murder?
When there is a pill which prevents the whole thing, before the egg even begins to grow !
Why not make this pill available through planned parenthood free?
I know why Democrats either need this bogus issue to win elections ..
Or Democrats get off killing babies!
Which one is it????
electroman076 1 year ago
I would say that myself and Barbarah Boxer were Tiller The Baby Killers biggest fans !
electroman076 1 year ago
So let me get this on the record, Democrat politicians think it is wrong to kill terrorists!
Yet they find it ok and even applaud measures to fund the slaugter of innocent babies !
Oh wait let me correct myself, it is now ok to kill terrorists too, as it was only wrong when George Bush was president....
Oh yes and I cant forget that when Bush was president, Democrats thought it was ok and patriotic to voice your opposition to the Whitehouse...
So now patriotic dissent is racism !
electroman076 1 year ago
The new terms they use now to try to clean up the filthy stench of death that comes with the word "abortion" is to use the term, a woman's "reproductive rights." But now they need to come up with a new term explaining how a woman's "reproductive rights" trumps her child's right to live his or her life. And when they do, that will be about the time we're all saying Heil Hitler! Because we will no longer be any better then they were.
Pro-Choice = Pro-Death .... Pro-Life = Pro-LIFE!
gloriajane1 1 year ago 2
Thats what Tryanny is all about. You do what your told and shut up. Who cares if you dont like it. We are the Government and you are the sheeple. Now give me your money cause there are lots of fetuses that need killin'! And dont worry about a few of em makin' it....Obama will chase em down all through clinic if needed!
rwoodward61 1 year ago
Death Cults™ Unite!
...off a cliff
Zapalicious 1 year ago
Abort this bill and go home.
Nobama0000 1 year ago 2
Abortion is often claimed to be a "personal choice", but when it is publicly financed, it would only be ethical if every person had a say in each abortion. This is a horrible violation of freedom, as people will be forced to finance the abortions of others. Sluts should just be put on an island to raise their bastards, because the vast majority of abortion patients are losers, incapable of making an informed choice. If they were capable, wouldn't they have chosen effective contraception?
drubermensch 2 years ago
Sebelius continues the work of her friend and financial contributor to her campaigns, George Tiller. It chills me to the bone to hear her talk about womens "Right to choose" health services. Right to choose being Murder and slaughter of our innocent babies.
Gail1970 2 years ago 6
they arent "our" babies...they arent yours or mine.
EnhancementSmoker 2 years ago
@EnhancementSmoker
*they arent our babies...they arent yours or mine.*
Translation, We are not responsible for what we allow as a society.
Abortion is barbaric, yet its typically considered a convenient *option*. It should not be condoned nor should EVERYONE as taxpayers have to fund it under this oppressive health care bill should it pass.
Like it or not, all members of any society are responsible for allowing such crimes against humanity. This bill exposes that connection.
VideoSeattle 2 years ago
im not gonna share my opinion on abortion because i dont think its relevant....primarily because it isnt my body...
guess what...there are a lot of things that my tax dollars go to, and a lot of those things i dont condone. and im sure everyone else has something they dont want their money going towards...
get over it...
EnhancementSmoker 2 years ago
@EnhancementSmoker
*get over it... *
This is not simply an issue one must *get over*. Anyone with a conscience understands that life is
anything but trivial.
VideoSeattle 2 years ago
and btw, the actual translation would be...
its none of your fucking business....
EnhancementSmoker 2 years ago
@EnhancementSmoker
Wrong, if you insert your 2 cents you don't get to weasel out on a whim.
VideoSeattle 2 years ago
EnhancementSmoker: clearly, you think killing babies is something you should be able to dictate but we who pay for it should just consider part of our tax paying duty. Though you can't seem to express yourself without profanity, I can. IT IS MY MONEY AND IT IS MY BUSINESS.
gary00333 2 years ago
ill say again...there are a lot of things tax dollars go to that i dont approve of...and i fight against those things...
no one is saying you shouldnt fight for what you believe in either...
but public money is only used for abortions in cases of rape, incest and if the mothers health is at risk...its called the hyde amendment...
are you against abortion in these cases?
EnhancementSmoker 2 years ago
They favor semantics over sincerity. It all boils down to who will defend the defenseless. It's a clash of values, involving those that do value life and those who don't. Those that don't are likely driven by a heartless political agenda while we are driven by a commandment and a sincere respect for mankind. They are the *baby killers* and they intend to use our money to implicate us even though we are the conscientious objectors.
KILL THE BILL, SAVE LIVES.
VideoSeattle 2 years ago 2
id wager my 2 cents is worth more than ur anything....
EnhancementSmoker 2 years ago
The American left put a spear through America's heart when they deliberately opened the border and created a bizarre and terrible legal right to infanticide in the 1960s.
America, apart from an all-to-brief burst of world-altering brilliance in 1980s thanks to Reagan, has been in decline ever since.
America is now overrun by ignorant, docile, welfare-teet suckling 3rd-world peasants and 40 million Americans have died in a holocaust more savage and cruel than any other in all human history.
TheAkashdeepJabandar 2 years ago 2
So the HHS Secretary admits that it's confusing, & she admits that we'll pay for killing children.
HHS now stands for Hitlerish Holocaust & Slaughter.
jimmmmie 2 years ago
No taxpayer funding for abortions.
YOU WANT TO KILL INNOCENT BABIES,
DO IT WITH YOUR OWN MONEY. THE
POLITICIANS WHO ARE FORCING
ABORTION ON OTHERS HAVE THE
BLOOD OF INNOCENT BABIES ON
THEIR HANDS. REPENT AND STOP
PROMOTING THE KILLING OF INNOCENT BABIES.
2000yrCatholic 2 years ago 3
Good grief Kansas, why did you help unleash this woman upon the nation? All the more reason to get rid of the Obamination in 2012.
bw01a 2 years ago 2
god i hate democrats and republicans fighting, give it a rest. we get you hate each other, and how much smarter and better you believe your own political party is over the other. jesus.
savpoint 2 years ago
@savpoint
*god i hate democrats and republicans fighting*
You may want to consider this is not simply D vs. R. Its a clash of ideology, from liberal to conservative. Heres the party breakdown according to Rasmussen:
20% Democrat
37% Independent
40% Republican
Independents dominate the TEA party movement, which is *conservative*.
Current political decisions are quite unpopular and people will speak their minds. Yes, debate can become uncivil. Remember the *question authority* 60s?
VideoSeattle 2 years ago
I need to get piped! haha
jeanninejeannie39 2 years ago
hey liberals im gonna start a business hauling aborted fetises of irresponsible liberals who want their free abortion to the local landfill. all i need now is a truck and a pitchfork. maybe ill start a clinic also. i have a few rusty coathangers lying around. my motto will be " you make em we scrape em. no fetis can beat us. great job indeed liberal douches
awall1231 2 years ago
The day I know about them making taxpayers pay for abortions (for reasons other than to save the life of the mother) is the last day my family pays taxes. They can throw us into the streets. They can arrest us. They can kill us. But they won't get a penny from us to fund the shedding of innocent blood. I'll pay for sterilizations, but not murder.
SusannaChelcias 2 years ago 3
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Amberdennoa 2 years ago
Yes women should be able to get abortions at taxpayer's expense but sterilization should be part of the process if the pregnancy was not due to a criminal act; otherwise they pay with their own cash.
MsWanderer1 2 years ago
So a portion of everybodys money is set aside in an account for their own services.
And they get to choose how they use that. How DIABLOICAL?
Women who want an abortion can use their own resources for that if they choose.
How absolutely beautiful!
And of course the Wacko right has a problem with it. Are you really that stupid!!!
Or maybe your slicker than I thought, because this would destroy your wedge issue of abortion!
Think of it people can make their own choice...
kat74n1 2 years ago
Great comments. The Faux News RepubliCons hate it when you use facts and logic.
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago
Back to the Jim Crow laws. Really? Jim Crow laws were shot down in Brown vs. The Board of Education in 1954. They violated the 14th ammendment and were unconstitutional. This is why we have a Constitution. Furthermore, if you embraced the 10th ammendment, each State could choose whether or not abortion was right for their State. As it is now, there is nothing in the Constitution granting the right to abortion, the 9th ammendment argument is a house of cards in my opinion.
whereareyoujohngalt 2 years ago
The Jim Crow laws were on the books for 90 years before the Brown decision. The Jim Crow laws were originally upheld by the Supreme Court in Plessy vs Ferguson in 1896. Justice delayed is justice denied.
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago
This is all you repukes have left FAKE OUTRAGE!!!
You know if a dead baby, in the ruble of one of the countrys that we bombed the shit out of, had the sense to climb back up its mother"s womb the Republicans would probably care that it died!
Why don't you give a shit for our living children?
kat74n1 2 years ago
Oh yeah, and don't forget we should all give our money to the wealthy, so it will "trickle down to the poor"!
The wealthy Republican lie mill has tried to get us to believe that sh!T for years.
kat74n1 2 years ago
And how many jobs have you gotten from the homeless?
Josfald 2 years ago
>> Oh yeah, and don't forget we should all give our money to the wealthy, so it will "trickle down to the poor"!
Yeah, you're right. Because in comparison, the Liberal economic idea of money trickling UP from the poor would REALLY stimulate the economy and job creation sooooo much better!
(insert mocking eye roll here...)
CreativeThinker70 2 years ago
kat74n1 2 years ago
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lolypo890 2 years ago
More fake outrage! And the Democrats are ploting a war on Christmas... Thats in the bill as well!
What Republican corporate TOOLS you are!
kat74n1 2 years ago
Sebelius you sack of shit i look forward to the day you die.
0bodobod0 2 years ago
I won't pay it.
rickster348 2 years ago
Chilling and diabolical!!!!!!
susiefromomaha 2 years ago
It really doesn't make sense to force somebody who has a deep rooted belief in the concept of being "prolife", to make them pay taxes for something they oppose so strongly. Abortion is going to be around for a while, honestly i'm fine with it, but it shouldn't be forced upon others who think its fundamentally wrong to pay for it.
savpoint 2 years ago 2
Hey, I don't know if you're pro-life or pro-choice, but that was one of the few sane, considerate comments on here. I am pro-life for religious reasons and it distresses me to be forced into being part of something I believe is murder. At the very least, you take the ABSOLUTE EARLIEST any preemie has ever been born, and THAT can be agreed as "when life begins". That is my belief, I'm not gonna stop you if you disagree, but please don't force me to take part.
sorenkierkegaard2008 2 years ago
"Choices" for women, my ass! "CHOICE" for these people means CHOOSING ONLY FOR abortion!! No CHOICE for the unborn woman, though, right Kath??????
susiefromomaha 2 years ago 3
Sad this abortion bill will be passed as Christians celebrate the birth of the Christ child. God will not be mocked. For these 'politicians' to sell their soul so that they can promote the evil that is abortion is a sad state of affairs. But to the libs abortion is their sacred cow.
Tobias2012 2 years ago
One day, Sebelius, Obama, and all those who support the slaughter of innocent, defenseless life will have to stand before Almighty God to answer for their willingness and endorsement to murder His greatest gift....life. Spin in it anyway you wish, God will not be mocked and He will dish out His justice. God have mercy on these blinded, deceived souls.
chrishixx 2 years ago 11
Forced abortions for all!
Outsider770 2 years ago
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Merry CHRISTmass to all
Hmm whose birthday is it any way?
its amazing 2,000 y after his death still celebrations of his death & Resurrection occur
the bible not even a book its letters person to person recording the life of Jesus. Writings of the Jewish nation (ot)
there is a new contract in his blood ,,, yes his blood that spilled on the earth never to be recovered a whole blood line wiped out illegally, to save legally you and me ,, A loving Gods free gift just take it & escape the fire.
valu777 2 years ago
BILDERBERG GROUP ATTENDEE 2007 & 2008.
Kathleen Sebelius is an agent for the Global Elite.
She does NOT have this nation's sovereignty at heart.
FunkhouserMemorial 2 years ago 3
This bitch will burn in hell with Obama.
thirdcoastguy 2 years ago 4
anyone who believes in an after life, and uses that belief to subjugate/oppress woman and minority groups should really just kill themselves.
Devvrrrs88 2 years ago
@Devvrrrs88 Your a fucking idiot.
Don't you ever get tired of pretending that some how the color of your skin or your gender somehow makes you a Victim?.
CapitalExchange 2 years ago 3
@CapitalExchange, you're a fucking retarded bigot.
Don't you ever get tired of pretending the holocaust didn't happen, and justifying the KKK/Confederate Flag?
Devvrrrs88 2 years ago
Devvrrrs88............is on hellbound train with the rest of Obama supporters.
thirdcoastguy 2 years ago 2
I see, so anyone who disagrees with your ass backwards point of view is going to burn in hell? Typical religious retard.
Outsider770 2 years ago
You got it, they'll burn in hell, and so will you, baby killer.
thirdcoastguy 2 years ago
Oh, I was unaware I had killed any babies. You're a joke. Now go pump my gas, moron.
Outsider770 2 years ago
Yes, if you support Sebelius you support genocide. If you support Obama you are a traitor to the U.S. Constitution. Apparently your parents did a poor job teaching you ethics. You'll burn in hell anyways.
thirdcoastguy 2 years ago 3
@Devvrrrs88 Yeah, the Reptilian Shapeshifters in conjunction with the Nazis on the Moon have been conspiring to make sprinkler rainbow in order to raise the temperature of the earth and make south american gnomes spring up so they can send them back to Mars, where the pyramid is. It is also the base of the galactic emperor, Xenu, and his face of "mystic" super-creatures we know of as Loch Ness Monster, Big Foot, etc., etc.
johnhall77 2 years ago 2
The KKK and the Holocaust were both brought into place by the left....
Do you even know what your saying?.
Do you even read history?.................
CapitalExchange 2 years ago
OMG, are you seriously this fucking stupid? This must be an act. Well done, well done.
Outsider770 2 years ago
Will Bush and Cheney be there, too, redneck?
Outsider770 2 years ago
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Why do Republicans, who are always pontificating about small government, support giving the government the power to force a woman to carry a fetus against her will?
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago
Abortion is murder!!!! Plain and simple....since when was MURDER a choice? A woman has a choice not to get pregnant by keeping their legs closed or getting sterilized. Pretty much "STOP BEING A HO!!!!" so you dont get pregnant.
mwcar1 2 years ago 4
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No, abortion is not murder. And you have a really twisted view of women.
You believe that women should only have sex for purposes of getting pregnant? And any woman who has sex for any other reason is a "HO"? Do you oppose contraception, too? Do you think that every woman who gets pregnant should be forced by the government to carry the fetus against her will?
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago
>> AtlasShruggery: "abortion is not murder."
Actually it IS.
Forget flowery prose about "miracles of creation" and so on. Let's deal with cold, hard FACTS. Sperm and egg united, that's a growing HUMAN BEING in the womb. Not a plant... not some undigested piece of food... not a CD you misplaced... it's a BABY. More important, as research has shown, a baby that CAN sense its surroundings. And last I checked, killing sentient things in a premeditated, cold blooded way IS murder.
CreativeThinker70 2 years ago 3
No one said anything about miracles of creation, undigested food or misplacing CDs.
There is a long history of jurisprudence and religious literature which makes very clear distinctions between abortion and murder. A fetus which cannot survive outside the womb is not a human being.
My point is this: As repugnant as one may find abortion, giving the government the power to force a woman to carry a fetus against her will is worse. Beyond that, it is simply none of your business.
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago
Do you really favor creating the Womb Police? Who should be punished for an abortion? The woman? The father? The doctor? The hospital staff?
And what should their punishment be? The death penalty? Life in prison? Those are typically the sentences for premeditated murder.
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago
>> Do you really favor creating the Womb Police?
Nice try at dodging things, but you're missing the POINT of the debate. The point is there are laws that say Federal taxpayer money cannot be used... EVER... to pay for abortions. But what sack of crap Sebelius (who proved she loves to kill babies during her term as governor) wants to do is some creative accounting to shift taxpayer money to a side fund and THEN divert it to abortions, like a bad magician doing a slight of hand card trick.
CreativeThinker70 2 years ago 2
Pretty much. Actions have consequences.
Pretty much like the illegal aliens that flood America for welfare for their 'American' anchor-babies.
If you can't feed it, don't breed it.
Josfald 2 years ago
The question is really about individual liberty coupled with personal responsibility. Excluding cases of rape or incest, unwanted pregnancy is generally the result of a lack of personal responsibility. If you take no responsibility, you are entitled to no personal liberties. I realize Ayn was pro chice but I disagree with her on this subject. The idea of rational self interest sits well with me however I do not find it rational to abort an individual not yet capable of acting on their own....
whereareyoujohngalt 2 years ago
rational self interest. One reason we are experiencing the nullification of many of our liberties in this country is due to the lost emphasis on personal responsibility. As an aside, mine is a secular view and ultimately I believe abortion an issue that should not be left to the federl government but to the States.
whereareyoujohngalt 2 years ago
"an issue that should not be left to the federal government but to the states"
We tried that with civil rights, remember? It led to 75 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow. It led to bans on contraception and interracial marriage, too.
Is that what you want?
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago
@AtlasShruggery There are only 2 possible ways in which to become pregnant. One is rape, the other is to willing do so.
Whither it be through In Vitro Fertilization or consensual fornication between two acting adult's. You have indeed chosen to become pregnant.
Why then should Society be forced to foot the bill for a woman who does not wish to take responsibility for her body and her actions?. How is it against her will when she chose to do so?
CapitalExchange 2 years ago 2
"You have indeed chosen to become pregnant"
Do you oppose all contraception?
"Why then should Society be forced to foot the bill"
Does that mean you're okay with abortion as long as it's not funded with taxes?
Do you also oppose all welfare? Otherwise, society is gonna foot the bill one way or the other.
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago
Because they're dumb fucking hypocrites?
Outsider770 2 years ago
What about the right of the inocent baby!!!!
lebihus00 2 years ago
pro life should rise up and refuse to pay any tax
linkin622 2 years ago
Does that mean that I shouldn't have to pay for your idiotic invasion of Iraq?
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago
Obama's war now u idiot
VANITYBONET 2 years ago
I know you RepubliCons would like to pretend that these wars began on January 20, 2009. After all, Junior and the Bushees are an embarrassment to all of us. But it's gonna take a little longer than 11 months to clean up the monumental mess you GOPers made.
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago
>> it's gonna take a little longer than 11 months to clean up the monumental mess you GOPers made.
And it could take decades to clean up the mess Obama has created in a mere year -- but thankfully the reclamation project will roar into effect in 2010, followed by Obama being replaced by a REAL president in 2012.
CreativeThinker70 2 years ago
"a REAL president in 2012"?
Who would you define as a "REAL" president?
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago
someone who cannot be bought like Bush , Obama , Clinton...etc
linkin622 2 years ago
Atlas, for someone who (judging by the screen-name) admires Ayn Rand, you seem not to have grasped very much of what she taught. A REAL president would be one who respects the constitution- NOT a socialist/marxist sympathizer who has, in the past, expressed his wish to replace it.
sorenkierkegaard2008 2 years ago 2
Ayn Rand? Ayn Rand was an egomanical sociopath who wrote boring fiction. Unfortunately, Ayn Rand groupies like Alan Greenspan didn't Go Galt before wrecking the US economy.
So, are you one of those Small Government RepubliCons who supports giving the government the power to force a woman to carry a fetus against her will?
Exactly when did Obama express his "wish" to "replace" the Constitution? Please be specific.
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago
We make men responsible for the children they make, women should be no different.
Don't want children, don't screw.
Wanna screw? Be prepared to live up to the realities of your choices and take responsiblity for their outcomes.
lees20022 2 years ago
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sorenkierkegaard2008 2 years ago
Not the obama.
You leftie liberals are SOooo against Bush and the 800 billion dollar deficit that the wars have brought about after almost a decade of spending, but are SOo in love with the obama and spending TRILLIONS in just months.
By the way, a REAL President does what the people who elected them to office want done. They do not hold closed-door meetings to figure out ways to lie to the people about how they are trying to 'help' them. Remember the campaign promises of transparency?
Josfald 2 years ago
Transparency you say?
You mean transparency like Junior Bush's refusal to testify under oath to the 9-11 commission?
Like the secret energy task force meetings between the Bushees and their Enron cronies?
Like 22 million "lost" White House emails?
That kind of transparency?
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago
Jim Crow continued. If you want a lasting solution to your issue, embracing the 10th ammendment argument would satisfy your wishes permanantly if only in some States. I fear for you that Roe v. Wade will be overturned when the make up of the court changes.
whereareyoujohngalt 2 years ago
This is absolutely disgusting and vile. This HCB is a huge rock in the pocket of a nation already struggling to keep its head above water & I'm afraid it will be the one that finally pulls us under.
jruzich43 2 years ago
Sebelius is a MONSTER!!! What a vile excuse for a human being she is.
maximusdecimus888 2 years ago
I agree, more publicly funded abortions for Democretins and progressives!
Its well worth it
JesusFrickinChrist 2 years ago
Democrats hate choice when it comes to working, running a business, or receiving health care services. But they love it when it comes to aborting babies.
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
I want healthcare, not a culture of death. KILL THE BILL!
wow1really 2 years ago
Archbishop Wuerl of Washington has NO PROBLEM giving Communion to this evil, bigoted woman. Although Wuerl is too spineless to take a position, her bishop back home has done so. Wuerl has said he will abide by the home bishop's decision.
Too bad he doesn't have any testicles of his OWN.
VincentinFargo 2 years ago
How about choices for babies?
makeinstall 2 years ago
All you women out there that can spread your legs and get knocked up, do us all a favor and pay for your own damn abortion. It's bad enough that you don't mind killing an unborn child, but the fact that you now won't even cough up the money to pay for it, makes it even more disgusting.
booger546 2 years ago 3
Everyone needs to listen to booger!!!!!
hummpy 2 years ago
Abortion defined as..."a woman's health choice". A woman's right...to kill her unborn.
When the masses of the U.S. middle class have lost their homes, wealth and health while living on the streets sustaining themselves by eating alley rats and raw sewage, I can start my new fast food place...slogan...
We kill a fetus...so you all can eatus.
Would you like that flame broiled or deep fried?
Special amniotic sauce?
And a side of placenta fries on the side with an afterbirth shake?
kthorn612 2 years ago
To "mushroomhead777": Actually, there are some similarities in the logic used to justify the killings during the holocaust and today's abortion killings. Quoting Franz Stangl, death camp commandant: "(The killings) had nothing to do with humanity - it was a mass. I rarely saw them as individuals. It was always a mass." This is exactly how the pro-choicers have tried to describe (and dehumanize) the unborn baby: "What is aborted is a protoplasmic mass and not a real, live grown-up individual".
kweer58 2 years ago 3
Very good kweer58. Also I'm sure that mushroomhead666 has never heard of Margaret Sanger either.
antimarxism 2 years ago
this scum bucket sat by idly as Pat Tiller performed late 3rd term abortions in her state... She accepted campaign contributions from him and defended him as a good man... She is an embarrasment to the Democratic party...
soliloqy 2 years ago
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Oh whatever. You anti-choice people are nuts.
mushroomhead777 2 years ago
@mushroomhead777 Have you ever looked at photographs of the ripped-up, bloody bodies of babies killed in abortion?
If not, why not? Afraid of facing the truth--that abortion is the killing of babies?
Please explain in greater detail how OPPOSING the killing of babies is "nuts."
VincentinFargo 2 years ago
Varying degrees of choice, the majority are rational and think it's ok until the end of the first trimester or until it has a detectable heart beat wanting for provisions for the life of the mother thereafter and that the person does it on their own accord, not on the government coffer. Then there are folks like Sebelius who criticize Republicans for being anti-science yet she ignores the evidence in a sonogram and wants it available up until 8 months and 30 days
soliloqy 2 years ago
We'll all be forced to contribute to the slaughter of innocent babies.
A few decades from now, most all will look at this era like we do the Holocaust and have the same disgust as we do for the Germans that were also complicit or were in denial.
"Progressivism" is the most regressive and most barbaric ideology that has happened in American history......including slavery.
antimarxism 2 years ago 2
@antimarxism
*"Progressivism" is the most regressive and most barbaric ideology that has happened in American history......including slavery.*
I totally agree! Daniel Greenfield has a great article titled, 'Socialism is Modern Slavery'. Check out my vid, which is based on that article.
VideoSeattle 2 years ago
VideoSeattle, I watched some of your vid you are referring to and will finish the rest in a few minutes. Just wanted to let you know that so far, it is a great video. Keep 'em coming!
antimarxism 2 years ago
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You have GOT to be kidding me. Are you seriously comparing abortion to the holocaust? Get over yourself!
mushroomhead777 2 years ago
It has nothing to do with me mushroomhead666, abortion has to do with slaughtering millions of innocent humans.
antimarxism 2 years ago 2
When it comes to forcing people to pay for others' abortion, the "pro-choice" groups want us to have "no-choice". On this matter, the "pro-choice" groups are "imposing" their abortion funding "morality" on everybody. They expect others, regardless of moral conviction, to pick up the tab for abortions.
kweer58 2 years ago 7
@kweer58
Double standards and bate & switch are standard tricks used by these authoritarians. Their collective arrogance and quest for power corrupts everyone, and the ante-dote is term limits. They ignore the conservative uprising and are hell-bent on passing crappy law...plus they just added an unprecedented requirement of a SUPERMAJORITY (67) to REPEAL. This $2.5 Trillion in deficit spending will bankrupt us.
We deserve REPRESENTATION, not dictation.
KILL THE BILL!
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VideoSeattle 2 years ago
Why should the public have to pay for abortions?
cornbutter100 2 years ago 4
why, oh why couldn't these big fans of abortion have been aborted themselves?!
ohiobuzzie 2 years ago 4
Sen Ben Nelson (D-NE) is a "SELL OUT".
Ben (AKA Benedict Arnold) bought off on this calculated trick, thinking he covered his bases. Wrong! When you depart from such a principle, you betray yourself. In this case you betrayed a vast majority of your countrymen.
You, Ben, are a TRAITOR and a LIAR! You SWORE to uphold our Constitution and FAILED. Get out of MY country!
DEFEAT Sen. Ben Nelson 2010!
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VideoSeattle 2 years ago 2
I'm from Nebraska and Nelson will NOT get my vote.
Josfald 2 years ago 2
@Josfald
*I'm from Nebraska and Nelson will NOT get my vote.*
Nelson needs to retire like all his liberal buddies in Congress. So far, 5 have decided not to run. In Georgia, a D switched parties.
Did you know about The Weekly Standard exposing threat by Rohm Immanuel to close military base if Nelson did not vote for Obamacare. What Dictators!
Google: Dems Threaten Nelson In Pursuit of 60
VideoSeattle 2 years ago
Women will have a "choice" unless you're pro-life, then no choice for you...we'll just take your money anyway.
jhelp1 2 years ago 7
Maybe a woman should start making the choice to use condoms or birth control pills before she decides to lie down with a man. The only power abortion bestows on a woman is the power to act irresponsible. I WILL NEVER PAY FOR ANY ABORTION.
wabby99 2 years ago 4
I also refuse to pay. Come and get it...
DaGroaner 2 years ago 3
Most dishonest administration at least since Nixon!
corncat 2 years ago 6
When did Jay (of Jay and Silent Bob) start interviewing politicians?
cunnjohn 2 years ago 4
Hope and change...
AustinAg 2 years ago 5
I refuse to pay it. Come get me fuckers.
Luka1410 2 years ago 6
What a Disgrace!
yidy1 2 years ago 7
Does this remind you guys of anything?
"Don't call it prostitution. You're a performance artist."
Accounting tricks abound.
MooseOfReason 2 years ago 8
She's disgusting.
reevaluate2008 2 years ago 11