why USE this technique instead of a throw?when you 'blend' and 'grab' put in your foot and execute the throw which is a pretty basic technique.my point is:why use a variation of a technique that is difficult to do instead of normal one?i'm not criticizing and i know this is an example but why do an armlock in this situation?(except if on the floor there are spikes and you want him alive...)oh and i want answers from someone with actual experience in this.please?
Mmm, once you are at the part before you bring the hand back, you are open to a strike from the other hand. If you aren't able to grab the hand instantly and start the technique which is likely, then it seems to me that this could be the end of the fight for you because of that.
see wat i like about akkido is that u dont rely on strength. instead u manipulate your opponents strength and use it to your advantage. i did this to one of my friends who is bigger and stronger than me and i was able to put him on his knees
@djeq721 what you fail to understand is that this instructional video does not demonstrate how the technique really works at combat speed. In real life, instead of grabbing the punching hand, maybe you get some sleeve, maybe you just get a block up, but you can use that block as the fulcrum for the cantilever action of the ikkyo throw/pin. Maybe stop in at Komyokan and chat about your concerns? Let me know if you would like me to arrange an introduction.
I study Japanese Ju Jitsu and It is still very hard to pull these type of techniques off when someone retracts their hand. God knows how many years training it would take to be able to do what is described before someone could pull their hand back at "combat speed" as you put it.
@djeq721 Gozo Shioda crassly explained the missing link in his book "Aikido Shugyo." There's a skill to maintaining proper space (ma-ai) and leading, and getting uke to extend fully, and knowing where and when uke's going to be extended. When you know where the punch is going to land, as Gretzky said: skate to where the puck is going to be. It's magic Maybe uke just throws feints: no ikkyo!
@elnobruu It is nikkyo if nage brings uke's hand to nage's shoulder and then forces uke's elbow down instead of up. If you get a lower punch, maybe it's easier to get on top and do nikkyo. If you get a higher punch, maybe it's easier to get under it and do ikkyo. Maybe you didn't get a good "trap" on uke's fist/hand so you sweep it down and around for kokyunage or sokumen iriminage. It's the stepping back crosshand taisabaki entering uchi side: fundamental to many techiques.
Lol... saw his mic and pack. It's not often you actually see that in the video. This guy is normally pretty good at keeping his back away from the camera.
@Varishnu Well it's not like said that it won't work, but if after 3 months of training you successfully performed it than congratulations :) you're probably more talented than most people( or more hardworking). I'm not a native English speaker so I'm not sure what "just horsing around man" is, but the context indicates that he has some fighting experience. All joint applied techniques are really devastating if done correctly ;) believe me I know something about how painful it is.
@nadir6661 Did you not notice how he positions his body while securing the lock? Not only is he in perfect position to block that 'other hand' but also will have his attacker on the ground withing the blink of an eye.
I wonder about just 1 thing, who in his right mind would throw a puch with all his bodywieght following the strike? Not that I doubt the technique but you know what? You would have to be at a really high level to succesfully perform this move in a streetfight...
Search this video to see a few proper left hooks and you'l see why this technique doesn't work against someone who knows how to punch properly "5. Boxing Secrets - Learn to throw a killer Left Hook" - as you can see there's no space to blend into. Hook is not an "arm" punch, its thrown with the body.
@wamoo The defender of the punch does not "catch" it. he instantly block the forearm and slides to the wrist. It would be virtually impossible to catch a fast punch (fist). (EX.) When you block a punch you're blocking the arm that is attached to the fist, right?, not the fist. It's the same thing!. With practice it can be done when you get used to recognizing the attacker's shoulder movements prior to the oncoming punch. If you think it's ridiculous then you've never seen anyone block anything.
@jeffsor47 this is the point, i've never seen anyone doing this because its not possible, there are thousands of videos about fights, real fights, brawls, just show me one and i'll be agree with you. only one.
No use in sitting and talking about martial arts, the only thing that matters is the skills must work in a real situation. period.
While you are trapping the first punch couldnt he hit you with his free fist? Or do they teach how to counter that in aikido too? Is so, this is an amazing martial art.
I'm not seeing how using both your hands to block that single punch works. If the one throwing the hook is a capable fighter, either he's going to throw the other fist or he's going to kick you in the side of your now exposed knee...which could break it in a worst case scenario...It does seem effective, but really only against someone that is untrained.
@JUSTaSLUG7 What you cannot see in the video is that nage is positioned almost in line with uke's free hand and opposite foot. I don't know where you think all of that reach is going to come from. If uke looks like he wants to throw a counter, there's a [not shown here] "ura" variation which I like because I'm short and taller people fly around that circle with their head and whole boy even faster than they can punch.
I am not a bad boxer , and I am reasonably confident that I could throw a barrage of punches at you , which you would find it pretty hard to "Blend in with" because you probably haven`t practised it . Most Dojo`s practice very stylised attacks (Mine included) because we dont want people getting injured.
@ilikezappa In my dojo, once you can demonstrate the basics of a technique, my sensei will pop you in the mouth when he's taking ukemi. It's his way of saying "don't be there." I saw it happen last night when he was demonstrating technique for us to practice during class.
Lots of people I train with have been doing this for 10-20 years. It's not a typical dojo for that reason. Beginners do the stylized attacks to reinforce muscle memory for fundamental skills. Straw man argument: fail.
I am glad you invite people to test it in your Dojo. It would be interesting. No disrespect intended. I wouldn`t have got a black belt in it if I thought it was crap .
This works well at full speed if you atemi to the face while intercepting the punch, before securing the Ikkyo lock. Without the atemi to disrupt the possibility of the second punch, the chance of getting hit at least once increases dramatically! I have never been hit when I "captured the mind" prior to applying Ikkyo. Just my experience thus far. Nice video!
@captheim yes, the atemi is key but the shoulder is also a target (perhaps the best against a hook) and so is the bicep (charlie horse) as seen on this video. The only thing that would make this technique better is to perform a quick hyper-extension to the elbow right after the block. this will buy time to reach for the wrist.
@1089nat this is just training speed, in a real situation it would be much faster and they would get their second punch about half way before they are bent over and being submitted
@killerhobag ok pall but it nothing to do with speed. that man needs to have his balance broke behind him so that means you enter as you see him move and stop it at his weakest point or let him continue and redirect or go negative. in a real fight things change. Iwama the birth place of aikido
@killerhobag You can imagine throwing punches really fast, but you can't imagine any other technique being fast? If that were true, nobody would do anything but box.
@1089nat In real life, you will see things that this video angle hides. Those things will make it clear to you that uke's free arm is in no position to knock anyone out. You're criticizing a misinformed fantasy of what's going on in front of the camera because you can't see enough to know any better.
Go to a dojo and try it for yourself. Only when you have seen it done a lot of times can you even begin to understand the necessary details.
Look at this guy instead, he's also from ExpertVillage, but he also does this in another way because he says when you do that, your open for another strike from the other hand.
Better hope the attacker doesnt throw the other hand after. Catching a punch IS REALLY HARD. Good fighters throw punches in combinations. I really dont mean to disrespect Sensei but you had better be so fast with that or you will get knocked out .
I dont accept aphors claim that a good 3rd dan could do it (I have 5th Dan)
@ilikezappa Is your 5th Dan Aikido? When I hear you say "catching a punch" it just doesn't jive. We are taught in my dojo that it specifically IS NOT catching a punch. It's blending with a punch. Speed is relative. You slow that punch down as you approach the same velocity. What is faster, the punch or your fingertips when you do ude furi undo?
@aphor No , 5th Dan is in TaeKwonDo , but did Aiki for 12 years. I learnt alot from it and dont mean to sound like some armchair warrior but still maintain that to be effective you should cross train in striking arts. I have no doubt that there are some Aikido practitioners who could tear my arms off.
@stringsmoke This is a stripped down version for demonstration of the technique. Once you get this working really well in class, people will start showing you the atemi that goes with it. None of that will matter if your fundamentals are weak.
Is anyone else tired of the peanut gallery claiming that won't work when they've never really tried? All you have to do is visit a dojo. "My friends and I don't think it's possible to execute ikkyo if uke throws a full speed punch." A good 3dan+ instructor will be able to help you understand without hurting you or allowing you to even graze them. If I'm wrong, you can come back and brag that you did it. Otherwise STFU?
@aphor While it might be possible to execute ikkyo after a full speed hook, I personally think (after trying many, many times) it is a bad option since you have tom move against the momentum of your opponent. If uke is really throwing his weight behind the punch and resists, it is very difficult to move to ikkyo. A far better option imho is to use Kubi nage as it flows in the same direction as the punch. This will really send uke flying!
@skerrie2 The hook is a yokomenuchi strike. This changes the taisabaki, but doesn't rule out Ikkyo. Instead of going for uke's head as in kubinage, keep a little separation and use that hand to cut down the wrist of the extended punching hand and sweep it down towards your center with an inside-out down block movement. This will give you a lot of opportunity to make the ikkyo grab, then your hips are all wound up for irimi pin or throw, or you can slide in and tenkan pin. Nikkyo too..
@aphor So, a mr. nobody walks into a dojo where the 3rd. dan can execute a technique and claim it is valid? Let him try that on someone his skill level, like an ameatur MMA fighter, for example.
@zacktillery can you show me a video with a good example of the amateur MMA fighter hook punch which renders this defense useless? Maybe he's open to a different technique.
@aphor I'm saying that people that don't know how to fight, won't put up a challenge. This might works on grandmas and special education students, but in reality it will not work in the slightest.
This is basic, with a lot unsaid--e.g. there is a simultaneous strike (some like yokomenuchi, but I prefer a straight palm to the face) with the block. If that connects, then you throw using that (and perhaps tickle the eyeballs a bit along the way). The assumption here is that the opponent avoids that strike by blocking with his free hand or leaning back. Either delays his followup. Critical points are evading the followup and checking the elbow. The arm bar is gravy.
Done slowly like this, it may look like the defender is a sitting duck for a follow-up punch from the other hand, but I've experienced this technique, and it is very difficult to get that second punch in before he does the pivot and is out of range.
@pookieslim in a street fight with a serious boxer throwing that punch you wouldn't worry about doing the lock, you would do the start and throw him or rip is wind pipe out or something to take him out quick as possible to take on the 2nd guy...in a street fight you aren't gonna be nice...they tend not to tell you those things for quite a while in aikido though...they can't read your personality at the start...if a dick you would get sick of it and go and learn MMA or something...lol
@salsalover69laters ..or if you realize that most Japanese based martial arts schools in America are run by white Christian bussinessmen who charge 100 dollars a month for a class, 10 dollars for belt advancement (plus cost of the new color), and also don't allow you to ever learn anything toward black belt unless you join "black belt club" where they have one class a month at 45 dollars, and try to keep you at one belt for as long as possible regardless of skill and you relaize its a SCAM!
@lileichmann continued... at which point you become bored of "theory" martial arts and decide that something practical would better suit your well-being and decide it best to try and learn a battlefield proven "Martial Science" i.e. Muay Thai, BJJ, Sanda, Vale Tudo, Pancrase, where the only belt you concern yourself with is a title belt and the only way to earn it is to fight and win with someone other than the 8 year old karate black belt in your yuppie dojo/coffee shop/yoga studio.
@JUSTaSLUG7 You are correct. It is almost impossible to grap a punch out of the air. That is not what is happening. The Aikidoka is connecting with the attacker as the attack is performed. The technique simply falls into place if it is done correctly.
all of you dont know anything about fighting!!!its not the style its the figher.this would very well work on the streets.i should know to because i'm a street fighter and i know how the most people fight.no i've never pay to learn this and i dont have any type of belt like black or white,but still i've trained with pro-boxers,thai-boxers,kung-fu fighters,and even a master at karate.and from what i know its whos faster that will win not just technigue.what good is a punch if the guy breaks it?
All you people pointing out the flaws in sensei's position are right, if you did this on the street you probably would get punched in the face. However, this is just a practise excersise for beginners inorder to allow them to get a feel for the attack and the technique. There are ways to react to this attack that place you well out of harm's way but you cannot master the more complex aspects of aikido untill you have mastered the basics. It is a stepping stone to the more complex defenses
Even a half-assed boxer will follow up with the other hand while you are doing that interesting theoretical set up for a take down. From the block to the elbow pop up, it is 3-4 complicated movements on an aggressive fast moving opponent, a left cross is one quick simple strike to the chin which is completely open. Even pure strikers are accustomed to limb manipulation and elbow dislocation attempts, which are much simpler and more effective than this. Nice outfits.
@tungusodessa It's worth pointing out that to counter an actual demonstration, you call it theoretical, and then you bring out a hypothetical argument. Hot air.
It's one thing to get on your high horse and blah blah blah anonymously on the Internet, but nobody actually learns anything until you bring your (even half-assed) boxers to the dojo and TEST YOUR HYPOTHESIS. When you come back from that, it will be the voice of experience--not speculation.
@JUSTaSLUG7 Aikido is useing the oponents strenght, trust me the rager and harder the atacker hits it is easier for the aikido technique to be applyed.
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no matter what style you practice in, catching a punch requires fine tuned reflexes and more importantly TIMING. You need to anticipate your opponent's attack.
That's kind of convenient that the attacker like loosens his hand as he is blocked, making it easy to bend the wrist. I really doubt that even after that strike he'll be able to bend the attacker's wrist.
I have a question, Im trying to learn aikido which I love, but looking at this video I wonder if its the most effective technique against a hook punch because it seems he's left his back really vulnerable to the other hand, i mean he could get punched in the back or even grabbed by the neck i think. Then again im just starting learning so i do not know much =P
@cacyo It depends on the force you flip his arm and how motivated he is to continue fighting. You could always release his elbow, side step and give him an elbow to the side of the face.
@cacyo i have practiced karate,ju-jitsu for a very long time, aikido however remains my love, i find kumite exilirating,the vulnarabilies you see viewing the video would not be quite so apparent to your opponent,as your sensei would doubtlessly point out as soon as you begin your move you would start to disturb your opponents balance{floating him}which is what tends to focus his thoughts rather than the punch to the back of your head. at 60 yrs old i still train hope you will too mstr po
@pojood i see, thanks a lot for your reply =] i appreciate it, and i to have fallen in love with aikido after viewing and researching other martial arts, aikido has won me over, the phylosophy of aikido is the way i live my life, is almost as if i was born to learn it =D it teaches everything i believe in, just majestic, hopefully ill start practicing it this month cant wait =D
@cacyo hi fella,when you start it might seem a little difficult,lots of rolling and learning how to fall,as you would in jitsu,persevere,you need to know how to land from a throw or you will injure yourself,however even in as short a time as six months or so,maybe even less,you wont believe what you will be capable of doing,you will find your basics,the 17 techniques of the randori no kata nothing less than magical,hope you find a good dojo with a good sensei. mstr po
@jamesmongo - It doesn't matter if its lightning quick, you are giving up both of your arms to block his one. FREEZE AT 0:12 if that isn't a giant opening for a punch to the face or choke out the you are retarded.
@thegeneral1942 i agree with ya mate to be fair i have done aikido but its not conventional in a real fight if theere doing aikido aswell its fine but if there just brawlin ur screwed
yes simple but effective, nothing flashy. Kickin ass doesnt have to be beautiful. i think i will adopt this as my primary fighting style with a few personal modifications to inflict damnage , not just to restrain the person.
Aikido actually makes people worse fighters than if they had never learnt Aikido.
You have a better chance throwing your hardest haymaker.Aikido is total bullshit, if it were any good, you would see it show up in the UFC.Notice how Aikido practitioners never fight anybody?only staged exhibitions where no real punches or kicks are thrown,just some pussy TMA kid rolling around the dojo
Realistic forms of fighting: Greco Roman Wrestling,Brazilian Jiu Jitsu,Muay Thai, Boxing, Judo, Sambo,mma etc
@oquas --- the instructor here is simply breaking down the mechanics of this very effective technique. Of course in a real fight it'd be 10 times faster. Which is great because the attacker's speed and momentum is actually 'felt' and flowed with. No different that in judo where the right throw is felt, or in Wing Chun or in Filipino hubut drills where you've got to feel and flow. Even a boxer can duck, parry and counter ---in a real fight. But its slowed down for teaching purposes!
@projectbojinka No matter how fast you do it, you can't be faster than an effective hook. By the time you've stepped in and parried, you'd get hit by the other hand.
Good fundamental technique. Everyone in every system should try to pick this up and adapt it. And to those who are saying its not going to work, etc., no one move works all the time. Every technique works once in while, some with greater frequency than others. Learning the MA is about (in part) learning to chain any/all techniques together based on input under stress.
@BushiWaazup if it was the master doing it in the real shit, the attacker wouldnt be open for his 2nd shot. hed be bent over. it all depends on how fast and quick you can do the technique.
So what happens when you trap the guy's hand and turn away from him? Don't you leave the side and back of your hand exposed? What happens when he just pops you one with his other hand?
Lesson 1 in boxing is to bring your striking hand back as fast as it went out. Aikidokas - go to a boxing gym and ask to practice grabbing boxers wrists, you'll see.
@Andybaby: I agree dude, I've been doing aikido for 6 years and stuff like this still bothers me. But I have to say that there are some other more direct ways of being more affective. But I doubt that i'll see anyone using Ikkyo in a real fight on a punch, wrist grabbing will do tho.
@WtFidgE Ikkyo from Yokomenuchi is very difficult to pull off. Uke is almost never in the right position for Ikkyo after this strike. A Koshi Nage or a Kokyu Nage would be much easier. Now, in a Shomen Uchi or overhand strike, Uke is just begging for Ikkyo. This is not the point of the video. The point is a demonstration of this particular technique.
@Andybaby Good point. As an Aikidoka since 1991, I can tell you the boxing jab is one of the hardest movements to deal with in Aikido. This is why, in Aikido, we do not deal with the jab at all as it is not a committed attack. Usually, we deflect the jab, move off the line and enter in for a direct or circular takedown.
@Deke101 Well put. Moving out of the way- a devastatngly effective technique. Another point to consider might be that the hook IS the second attack, not the first. No one seems to have considered that. As an Aikidoka, do you think these techniques would work well against a boxer?
@zarisstokell As an aikidoka, boxing techniques tend to be among the most difficult to deal with. Basic Aikido requires a committed attack in order to perform a technique. Advanced Aikido, however, does not. The non committed attacks of boxing can be dealt with using advanced direct entry techniques.
That's true...but most dumbasses on the street are not boxers. If you are trained to grapple...you can grab someone's hand easily. NOTE: i'm not saying that Aikido is the best self-defense system...that you have to find out for yourself.
Aikido for me is the greatest kid of martial arts ever. It's because most aikido techniques deals with countering an attack. So taekwondo, karate, kickboxing, boxing have no chance against aikido.
Aikido for me is the greatest kid of martial arts ever. It's because most aikido techniques deals with countering an attack. So taekwondo, karate, kickboxing, boxing have no chance against aikido.
Ah, so an individual's weight, height, strength, speed, and level of expertize have nothing to do with who wins a fight? You just put stile against stile, not a man/woman against another (or several) man/ woman? And there's no chance you are drunk/tired/injured? And you never feel fear/anger? And you always see the punch coming? And every single aikidoka has the same level of reflex and execution in every situation? And every guy punching you is retarded/over-committed/slower?
@JI394 what you dont understand is aikido deals a lot with joint manipulation. try this with a buddy...put your arms straight out. have your friend push your arms down and up while you resist the pressure and try keeping your arms in the same position. it will be harder for your friend to move it in those directions. now have your friend push your arms side ways left and right. no matter how strong you are, he/she will be able to push your left to right.
This is really dangerous to do for self defense. An experienced attacker wielding a knife controls with the forward hand while waiting to stab at a weak spot with the other. The first stage exposes the kidneys to a strike, and is where a knife fighter would aim for.
@zhoulotskunosprok thing is most people that are guna attack you arnt well skilled in knife attacks- if they are no matter what martial art you do you guna be pretty fucked.eskrima in a good ma to have against a knife attacker but at the end of the day if you practice a ma it will at least give you have a higher percentage of success.also i think aikido have a different technique against someone with a knife- again like other m arts.
@zhoulotskunosprok thing is most people that are guna attack you arnt well skilled in knife attacks- if they are no matter what martial art you do you guna be pretty fucked.eskrima in a good ma to have....
@zhoulotskunosprok thing is most people that are guna attack you arnt well skilled in knife attacks- if they are no matter what martial art you do you guna be pretty fucked.eskrima in a good ma to have....
@zhoulotskunosprok thing is most people that are guna attack you arnt well skilled in knife attacks- if they are no matter what martial art you do you guna be pretty fucked.eskrima in a good ma to have....
@zhoulotskunosprok thing is most people that are guna attack you arnt well skilled in knife attacks- if they are no matter what martial art you do you guna be pretty fucked.eskrima in a good ma to have....
if u dont believe in aikido nobody , ifis forcing you. One thing i can promise you we are in a fight i dont have to hit you coz i guarantee you, i repeat i guarantee you , you will hit the ground, and hit it hard!!
Good control of all movement. This is good in full contact and this takes a lot of skill. And it is in the movement and physical part of one self, with a lot of training. I think this has help me to understand the movements of control . Not only the physical of it. Thanks a lot.
To throw a proper hook you keep your elbow bent, so this wouldn't work- also when you throw a punch you hit and PULL YOUR FIST BACK- you don't leave it there fo someone to grab. I think AIkido may be a bunch of BS.
You know this is a demonstration. Go try to attack a Shihan and you kiss the ground before you have a chance to say "what the..." good luck despising talents.
I doubt it- I've only seen Aikido work against willing partners who don't know how to attack properly. I'm totally willing to look at any info you've got that would show otherwise. If the gentleman trying to strike simply threw the punch and quickly pulled his arm back, as your supposed to do, this technique wouldn't be there. wtf is despising talents? I don't consider movie martial arts to be a talent-
You have only seen Aikido work against partners who do what is to be done otherwise some limbs could be broken and no one wants to sacrifice their limbs for the sake of making it more realistic. And one more thing; an aikidoka has to do his thing when the punch is coming and the balance is not settled. I mean the technique doesn't work even if somebody standing as if he is punching. In conclusion, in real life these techniques are not so innocent because you may never use your arm again.Got it?
All martial arts have techniques that can break bones- the difference is that in other martial arts the techniques can be done to people against their will. If you need someone to throw a slow punch with improper, unnatural and ridiculous technique, which you can then easily counter, then Aikido is for you.
Of course it is for me, not the ones who don't know about martial arts. Other martial arts may have tecniques to break bone but in aikido this can be done accidentally.
@jakesilv i take by your comments your knowledge of aikido comes from films or training clips,without wanting to dis you,a visit to a good aikido dojo might just give you a different view point. mstr po
@pojood Actually I've done some fairly extensive research on Aikido. I;ve studied it's roots and had the chance to train with some of its practitioners. While I find Aikido to be great exercise, graceful and fun to watch, I do not find Aikido to be a practical art for self defense. Have you tried any Brazilian Jui Jitsu? You mention Kumite in another post, are you familiar with Vale Tudo? Kumite style competitions exist today, in MMA, why do you think Aikido is absent from MMA?
@jakesilv apologies if i judged you wrongly,no brazilian,but original ju-jitsu including groundwork and karate for 45 yrs,i suppose it depends on how aikido is interpreted and practiced,from the ballet like displays to the more aggresive but perhaps less traditional form practiced by such as[ realaikiboys] &although at my age vale tudo would be a bit of a stretch,on the streets aikido perhaps with other techniques thrown in as always worked for me. enjoy your game, mstr po
I'd love to. If I can find one willing to fight me I'll put it on youtube. I have found videos of Aikido fighters training with non-cooperative partners and its pretty funny. Aikido = bullshido.
@jakesilv" A grand master of this discipline who was teaching green berets in USA was challanged for full contact demostration by one of the members with pervous martial arts training. Result was that guy who challanged him suffered a broken wrist and arm in two places. " -
After the block ,İf Uke attacks with the other hand (left one ) wht will happen ? :)))) bumm...!
aengincev 1 month ago
QUESTION!
why USE this technique instead of a throw?when you 'blend' and 'grab' put in your foot and execute the throw which is a pretty basic technique.my point is:why use a variation of a technique that is difficult to do instead of normal one?i'm not criticizing and i know this is an example but why do an armlock in this situation?(except if on the floor there are spikes and you want him alive...)oh and i want answers from someone with actual experience in this.please?
thethunder7ulti7 2 months ago
@thethunder7ulti7
Maybe it is drunk Uncle Bob and you don't want to hurt him.
ronin752 1 week ago
Mmm, once you are at the part before you bring the hand back, you are open to a strike from the other hand. If you aren't able to grab the hand instantly and start the technique which is likely, then it seems to me that this could be the end of the fight for you because of that.
hazmatac 3 months ago
His irimi scares me!
If I was uke he would have been caught on the chin.
I'm not one to criticize other schools, they all have somthing to offer,
but making irimi in a 90 degree angle is asking for trouble.
boddumblues 3 months ago
YEAH, BUT while your grabbing his right hand, he's punching u w his left fist
trangenusa 3 months ago
see wat i like about akkido is that u dont rely on strength. instead u manipulate your opponents strength and use it to your advantage. i did this to one of my friends who is bigger and stronger than me and i was able to put him on his knees
pinoyboyFTW 4 months ago
Only downfall is if he retracts the hand (Like anyone with a couple of months boxing experience would)
djeq721 4 months ago
@djeq721 what you fail to understand is that this instructional video does not demonstrate how the technique really works at combat speed. In real life, instead of grabbing the punching hand, maybe you get some sleeve, maybe you just get a block up, but you can use that block as the fulcrum for the cantilever action of the ikkyo throw/pin. Maybe stop in at Komyokan and chat about your concerns? Let me know if you would like me to arrange an introduction.
aphor 4 months ago
@aphor
I study Japanese Ju Jitsu and It is still very hard to pull these type of techniques off when someone retracts their hand. God knows how many years training it would take to be able to do what is described before someone could pull their hand back at "combat speed" as you put it.
djeq721 4 months ago
@djeq721 Gozo Shioda crassly explained the missing link in his book "Aikido Shugyo." There's a skill to maintaining proper space (ma-ai) and leading, and getting uke to extend fully, and knowing where and when uke's going to be extended. When you know where the punch is going to land, as Gretzky said: skate to where the puck is going to be. It's magic Maybe uke just throws feints: no ikkyo!
aphor 4 months ago
Isn't that nikkyo?
elnobruu 6 months ago
@elnobruu It is nikkyo if nage brings uke's hand to nage's shoulder and then forces uke's elbow down instead of up. If you get a lower punch, maybe it's easier to get on top and do nikkyo. If you get a higher punch, maybe it's easier to get under it and do ikkyo. Maybe you didn't get a good "trap" on uke's fist/hand so you sweep it down and around for kokyunage or sokumen iriminage. It's the stepping back crosshand taisabaki entering uchi side: fundamental to many techiques.
aphor 4 months ago
@aphor Thanks! I'm trying to understand it all because I don't know that much of english and I'm only 3th kyu
elnobruu 4 months ago
Lol... saw his mic and pack. It's not often you actually see that in the video. This guy is normally pretty good at keeping his back away from the camera.
StormbringerStudios 6 months ago
@Varishnu Well it's not like said that it won't work, but if after 3 months of training you successfully performed it than congratulations :) you're probably more talented than most people( or more hardworking). I'm not a native English speaker so I'm not sure what "just horsing around man" is, but the context indicates that he has some fighting experience. All joint applied techniques are really devastating if done correctly ;) believe me I know something about how painful it is.
ziemekzz 7 months ago
he has an other hand ready 2 land on your face or what ever
nadir6661 7 months ago
@nadir6661 Did you not notice how he positions his body while securing the lock? Not only is he in perfect position to block that 'other hand' but also will have his attacker on the ground withing the blink of an eye.
DarkSwan641 7 months ago
@nadir6661 His other hand is useless to punch with..." IF" you take his balance away with the block.
jeffsor47 7 months ago
@Varishnu what a lol , you don't know good this fighting techniques
Ltaikido 7 months ago
Uke have only one hand?!
SFlorin77 9 months ago
@SFlorin77 you making it very fast and competitor can't to use other hand
Ltaikido 7 months ago
I wonder about just 1 thing, who in his right mind would throw a puch with all his bodywieght following the strike? Not that I doubt the technique but you know what? You would have to be at a really high level to succesfully perform this move in a streetfight...
ziemekzz 9 months ago
@ziemekzz Who would throw a punch with all his body weight following the strike??.....the same guy who would throw a haymaker punch!
jeffsor47 7 months ago
Search this video to see a few proper left hooks and you'l see why this technique doesn't work against someone who knows how to punch properly "5. Boxing Secrets - Learn to throw a killer Left Hook" - as you can see there's no space to blend into. Hook is not an "arm" punch, its thrown with the body.
jakesilv 9 months ago
y si no se queda quieto?
victorvei 9 months ago
catch a REAL punch in that way, teach and think you can really do it is simply ridicolous and dangerous.
this is just a show, nothing usefull outside a dojo.
show me any aikido master or student, in a REAL video, with a REAL attack and a REAL punch doing this, and i'll change my mind.
wamoo 9 months ago
@wamoo The defender of the punch does not "catch" it. he instantly block the forearm and slides to the wrist. It would be virtually impossible to catch a fast punch (fist). (EX.) When you block a punch you're blocking the arm that is attached to the fist, right?, not the fist. It's the same thing!. With practice it can be done when you get used to recognizing the attacker's shoulder movements prior to the oncoming punch. If you think it's ridiculous then you've never seen anyone block anything.
jeffsor47 7 months ago
@jeffsor47 this is the point, i've never seen anyone doing this because its not possible, there are thousands of videos about fights, real fights, brawls, just show me one and i'll be agree with you. only one.
No use in sitting and talking about martial arts, the only thing that matters is the skills must work in a real situation. period.
wamoo 7 months ago
While you are trapping the first punch couldnt he hit you with his free fist? Or do they teach how to counter that in aikido too? Is so, this is an amazing martial art.
toyhut2 9 months ago
UUmmmm ... that is not a ikkyo take. That is nikyo take, as is your "Nikyo Wrist Lock"
fudo9 9 months ago
I'm not seeing how using both your hands to block that single punch works. If the one throwing the hook is a capable fighter, either he's going to throw the other fist or he's going to kick you in the side of your now exposed knee...which could break it in a worst case scenario...It does seem effective, but really only against someone that is untrained.
SmartMiroku 9 months ago
i wouldnt think this move would work against someone who's trying to hurt u.
steviesteviesteviec 10 months ago
@JUSTaSLUG7 What you cannot see in the video is that nage is positioned almost in line with uke's free hand and opposite foot. I don't know where you think all of that reach is going to come from. If uke looks like he wants to throw a counter, there's a [not shown here] "ura" variation which I like because I'm short and taller people fly around that circle with their head and whole boy even faster than they can punch.
aphor 10 months ago
I am not a bad boxer , and I am reasonably confident that I could throw a barrage of punches at you , which you would find it pretty hard to "Blend in with" because you probably haven`t practised it . Most Dojo`s practice very stylised attacks (Mine included) because we dont want people getting injured.
ilikezappa 10 months ago
@ilikezappa In my dojo, once you can demonstrate the basics of a technique, my sensei will pop you in the mouth when he's taking ukemi. It's his way of saying "don't be there." I saw it happen last night when he was demonstrating technique for us to practice during class.
Lots of people I train with have been doing this for 10-20 years. It's not a typical dojo for that reason. Beginners do the stylized attacks to reinforce muscle memory for fundamental skills. Straw man argument: fail.
aphor 10 months ago
@aphor
I am glad you invite people to test it in your Dojo. It would be interesting. No disrespect intended. I wouldn`t have got a black belt in it if I thought it was crap .
ilikezappa 10 months ago
stop the hating
scarberianknight 10 months ago
This works well at full speed if you atemi to the face while intercepting the punch, before securing the Ikkyo lock. Without the atemi to disrupt the possibility of the second punch, the chance of getting hit at least once increases dramatically! I have never been hit when I "captured the mind" prior to applying Ikkyo. Just my experience thus far. Nice video!
captheim 11 months ago 13
@captheim yes, the atemi is key but the shoulder is also a target (perhaps the best against a hook) and so is the bicep (charlie horse) as seen on this video. The only thing that would make this technique better is to perform a quick hyper-extension to the elbow right after the block. this will buy time to reach for the wrist.
appraiserjv 10 months ago
and his arm thats free knocks u out
1089nat 11 months ago
@1089nat this is just training speed, in a real situation it would be much faster and they would get their second punch about half way before they are bent over and being submitted
killerhobag 11 months ago
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1089nat 11 months ago
@killerhobag ok pall but it nothing to do with speed. that man needs to have his balance broke behind him so that means you enter as you see him move and stop it at his weakest point or let him continue and redirect or go negative. in a real fight things change. Iwama the birth place of aikido
1089nat 11 months ago
@killerhobag You can imagine throwing punches really fast, but you can't imagine any other technique being fast? If that were true, nobody would do anything but box.
aphor 10 months ago
@1089nat In real life, you will see things that this video angle hides. Those things will make it clear to you that uke's free arm is in no position to knock anyone out. You're criticizing a misinformed fantasy of what's going on in front of the camera because you can't see enough to know any better.
Go to a dojo and try it for yourself. Only when you have seen it done a lot of times can you even begin to understand the necessary details.
aphor 10 months ago
Look at this guy instead, he's also from ExpertVillage, but he also does this in another way because he says when you do that, your open for another strike from the other hand.
/watch?v=CXUNz1yVJKU&feature=relmfu
froseo9 11 months ago
Better hope the attacker doesnt throw the other hand after. Catching a punch IS REALLY HARD. Good fighters throw punches in combinations. I really dont mean to disrespect Sensei but you had better be so fast with that or you will get knocked out .
I dont accept aphors claim that a good 3rd dan could do it (I have 5th Dan)
ilikezappa 1 year ago
@ilikezappa Is your 5th Dan Aikido? When I hear you say "catching a punch" it just doesn't jive. We are taught in my dojo that it specifically IS NOT catching a punch. It's blending with a punch. Speed is relative. You slow that punch down as you approach the same velocity. What is faster, the punch or your fingertips when you do ude furi undo?
aphor 10 months ago
@aphor No , 5th Dan is in TaeKwonDo , but did Aiki for 12 years. I learnt alot from it and dont mean to sound like some armchair warrior but still maintain that to be effective you should cross train in striking arts. I have no doubt that there are some Aikido practitioners who could tear my arms off.
ilikezappa 10 months ago
He leaves his face open when he moves to the inside.
stringsmoke 1 year ago
@stringsmoke This is a stripped down version for demonstration of the technique. Once you get this working really well in class, people will start showing you the atemi that goes with it. None of that will matter if your fundamentals are weak.
aphor 10 months ago
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aphor 10 months ago
how long does it take to learn these kinda moves fluently and with all the speed?
uzavas 1 year ago
Nice detailed instruction, thank you.
CliffVictory 1 year ago
Is anyone else tired of the peanut gallery claiming that won't work when they've never really tried? All you have to do is visit a dojo. "My friends and I don't think it's possible to execute ikkyo if uke throws a full speed punch." A good 3dan+ instructor will be able to help you understand without hurting you or allowing you to even graze them. If I'm wrong, you can come back and brag that you did it. Otherwise STFU?
aphor 1 year ago 61
@aphor While it might be possible to execute ikkyo after a full speed hook, I personally think (after trying many, many times) it is a bad option since you have tom move against the momentum of your opponent. If uke is really throwing his weight behind the punch and resists, it is very difficult to move to ikkyo. A far better option imho is to use Kubi nage as it flows in the same direction as the punch. This will really send uke flying!
skerrie2 1 year ago
@skerrie2 The hook is a yokomenuchi strike. This changes the taisabaki, but doesn't rule out Ikkyo. Instead of going for uke's head as in kubinage, keep a little separation and use that hand to cut down the wrist of the extended punching hand and sweep it down towards your center with an inside-out down block movement. This will give you a lot of opportunity to make the ikkyo grab, then your hips are all wound up for irimi pin or throw, or you can slide in and tenkan pin. Nikkyo too..
aphor 10 months ago
@aphor "this stuff doesn't work on the street" says the guy on the street.
appraiserjv 10 months ago
@aphor *Claps*
donphonica 10 months ago
@aphor So, a mr. nobody walks into a dojo where the 3rd. dan can execute a technique and claim it is valid? Let him try that on someone his skill level, like an ameatur MMA fighter, for example.
zacktillery 4 months ago
@zacktillery can you show me a video with a good example of the amateur MMA fighter hook punch which renders this defense useless? Maybe he's open to a different technique.
aphor 4 months ago
@aphor I'm saying that people that don't know how to fight, won't put up a challenge. This might works on grandmas and special education students, but in reality it will not work in the slightest.
zacktillery 4 months ago
Who loves the walkie-talkie on the back ?
Barbaxification 1 year ago
@Barbaxification u bore man....
Duukjones 1 year ago
you can't catch someone's hand like that while they're throwing a decent punch... unless you are Neo from the Matrix.
theguyi26 1 year ago
@theguyi26 if it doesn't work, then how come i managed to do it against a guy who attacked me next to the bar?
MrRichard911 1 year ago
@MrRichard911 maybe he was drunk and threw a sluggish punch?
theguyi26 1 year ago
@theguyi26 haha??? he was running at me.
MrRichard911 1 year ago
@MrRichard911 That does not even contradict my suggestion that he was drunk and threw a sluggish punch...
theguyi26 1 year ago
@theguyi26 have you ever seen a drunk guy running? he'd be on the floor before he reaches you.
MrRichard911 1 year ago
@theguyi26 I agree, at least I can't. Why not just strike the guy in the head w/ the right hand and end it.
scobus3 1 year ago
I can't help but think an inside wrist-lock would be more effective than an ikkyo
ybab321 1 year ago
This is basic, with a lot unsaid--e.g. there is a simultaneous strike (some like yokomenuchi, but I prefer a straight palm to the face) with the block. If that connects, then you throw using that (and perhaps tickle the eyeballs a bit along the way). The assumption here is that the opponent avoids that strike by blocking with his free hand or leaning back. Either delays his followup. Critical points are evading the followup and checking the elbow. The arm bar is gravy.
tgibbsma 1 year ago
Done slowly like this, it may look like the defender is a sitting duck for a follow-up punch from the other hand, but I've experienced this technique, and it is very difficult to get that second punch in before he does the pivot and is out of range.
tgibbsma 1 year ago 2
that can never be done in a street fight, or can it
pookieslim 1 year ago
@pookieslim yup it can.
GokiGandalf 1 year ago
@pookieslim ive used it and im 13
Thedeathmetalshit 1 year ago
@pookieslim in a street fight with a serious boxer throwing that punch you wouldn't worry about doing the lock, you would do the start and throw him or rip is wind pipe out or something to take him out quick as possible to take on the 2nd guy...in a street fight you aren't gonna be nice...they tend not to tell you those things for quite a while in aikido though...they can't read your personality at the start...if a dick you would get sick of it and go and learn MMA or something...lol
salsalover69laters 1 year ago 2
@salsalover69laters ..or if you realize that most Japanese based martial arts schools in America are run by white Christian bussinessmen who charge 100 dollars a month for a class, 10 dollars for belt advancement (plus cost of the new color), and also don't allow you to ever learn anything toward black belt unless you join "black belt club" where they have one class a month at 45 dollars, and try to keep you at one belt for as long as possible regardless of skill and you relaize its a SCAM!
lileichmann 1 year ago
@lileichmann continued... at which point you become bored of "theory" martial arts and decide that something practical would better suit your well-being and decide it best to try and learn a battlefield proven "Martial Science" i.e. Muay Thai, BJJ, Sanda, Vale Tudo, Pancrase, where the only belt you concern yourself with is a title belt and the only way to earn it is to fight and win with someone other than the 8 year old karate black belt in your yuppie dojo/coffee shop/yoga studio.
lileichmann 1 year ago
@lileichmann If it's important to you, you will find a good dojo. LMK if you want help.
aphor 10 months ago
@JUSTaSLUG7 You are correct. It is almost impossible to grap a punch out of the air. That is not what is happening. The Aikidoka is connecting with the attacker as the attack is performed. The technique simply falls into place if it is done correctly.
Deke101 1 year ago
all of you dont know anything about fighting!!!its not the style its the figher.this would very well work on the streets.i should know to because i'm a street fighter and i know how the most people fight.no i've never pay to learn this and i dont have any type of belt like black or white,but still i've trained with pro-boxers,thai-boxers,kung-fu fighters,and even a master at karate.and from what i know its whos faster that will win not just technigue.what good is a punch if the guy breaks it?
TheGrandmasterzero 1 year ago
@TheGrandmasterzero its not about whos faster its about who can match the speed of the other person
Thedeathmetalshit 1 year ago
All you people pointing out the flaws in sensei's position are right, if you did this on the street you probably would get punched in the face. However, this is just a practise excersise for beginners inorder to allow them to get a feel for the attack and the technique. There are ways to react to this attack that place you well out of harm's way but you cannot master the more complex aspects of aikido untill you have mastered the basics. It is a stepping stone to the more complex defenses
AshRodey 1 year ago
Even a half-assed boxer will follow up with the other hand while you are doing that interesting theoretical set up for a take down. From the block to the elbow pop up, it is 3-4 complicated movements on an aggressive fast moving opponent, a left cross is one quick simple strike to the chin which is completely open. Even pure strikers are accustomed to limb manipulation and elbow dislocation attempts, which are much simpler and more effective than this. Nice outfits.
tungusodessa 1 year ago
@tungusodessa It's worth pointing out that to counter an actual demonstration, you call it theoretical, and then you bring out a hypothetical argument. Hot air.
It's one thing to get on your high horse and blah blah blah anonymously on the Internet, but nobody actually learns anything until you bring your (even half-assed) boxers to the dojo and TEST YOUR HYPOTHESIS. When you come back from that, it will be the voice of experience--not speculation.
aphor 10 months ago
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tungusodessa 1 year ago
@JUSTaSLUG7 Aikido is useing the oponents strenght, trust me the rager and harder the atacker hits it is easier for the aikido technique to be applyed.
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MultiSikas 1 year ago
no matter what style you practice in, catching a punch requires fine tuned reflexes and more importantly TIMING. You need to anticipate your opponent's attack.
dhyleck 1 year ago
That's kind of convenient that the attacker like loosens his hand as he is blocked, making it easy to bend the wrist. I really doubt that even after that strike he'll be able to bend the attacker's wrist.
WhirlwindWerewolf 1 year ago
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WhirlwindWerewolf 1 year ago
@WhirlwindWerewolf please answer his question idk either
pwnedfranco 1 year ago
I have a question, Im trying to learn aikido which I love, but looking at this video I wonder if its the most effective technique against a hook punch because it seems he's left his back really vulnerable to the other hand, i mean he could get punched in the back or even grabbed by the neck i think. Then again im just starting learning so i do not know much =P
cacyo 1 year ago
@cacyo It depends on the force you flip his arm and how motivated he is to continue fighting. You could always release his elbow, side step and give him an elbow to the side of the face.
wildbill6976 1 year ago
@cacyo No, you're right to be worried. There is no way you should be doing this for real.
Kavafy 1 year ago
@cacyo i have practiced karate,ju-jitsu for a very long time, aikido however remains my love, i find kumite exilirating,the vulnarabilies you see viewing the video would not be quite so apparent to your opponent,as your sensei would doubtlessly point out as soon as you begin your move you would start to disturb your opponents balance{floating him}which is what tends to focus his thoughts rather than the punch to the back of your head. at 60 yrs old i still train hope you will too mstr po
pojood 1 year ago
@pojood i see, thanks a lot for your reply =] i appreciate it, and i to have fallen in love with aikido after viewing and researching other martial arts, aikido has won me over, the phylosophy of aikido is the way i live my life, is almost as if i was born to learn it =D it teaches everything i believe in, just majestic, hopefully ill start practicing it this month cant wait =D
cacyo 1 year ago
@cacyo hi fella,when you start it might seem a little difficult,lots of rolling and learning how to fall,as you would in jitsu,persevere,you need to know how to land from a throw or you will injure yourself,however even in as short a time as six months or so,maybe even less,you wont believe what you will be capable of doing,you will find your basics,the 17 techniques of the randori no kata nothing less than magical,hope you find a good dojo with a good sensei. mstr po
pojood 1 year ago
@jamesmongo - It doesn't matter if its lightning quick, you are giving up both of your arms to block his one. FREEZE AT 0:12 if that isn't a giant opening for a punch to the face or choke out the you are retarded.
thegeneral1942 1 year ago
@thegeneral1942 i agree with ya mate to be fair i have done aikido but its not conventional in a real fight if theere doing aikido aswell its fine but if there just brawlin ur screwed
joeharris1996 1 year ago
yes simple but effective, nothing flashy. Kickin ass doesnt have to be beautiful. i think i will adopt this as my primary fighting style with a few personal modifications to inflict damnage , not just to restrain the person.
motlencore89 1 year ago
@motlencore89 cool send me vids if you find out any effective techniques
hawkerhurricane1 1 year ago
@jamesmongo I know.. they just talk shits they don't know that they just showing it in slow motion for beginners to understand it...
iBlobs23 1 year ago
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Aikido actually makes people worse fighters than if they had never learnt Aikido.
You have a better chance throwing your hardest haymaker.Aikido is total bullshit, if it were any good, you would see it show up in the UFC.Notice how Aikido practitioners never fight anybody?only staged exhibitions where no real punches or kicks are thrown,just some pussy TMA kid rolling around the dojo
Realistic forms of fighting: Greco Roman Wrestling,Brazilian Jiu Jitsu,Muay Thai, Boxing, Judo, Sambo,mma etc
EpicTrollMaster 1 year ago
Many only think with their eyes....
maplethebest 1 year ago
How about his left hand? His left hand can punch anytime.
bigtisas 1 year ago
@bigtisas by the time he move his left hand. his right arm is already break. dun tok big until u experience it.
maplethebest 1 year ago
@BushiWaazup wouldnt have time or reflexes in a real fight this would be 10 times faster
oquas 1 year ago
@oquas --- the instructor here is simply breaking down the mechanics of this very effective technique. Of course in a real fight it'd be 10 times faster. Which is great because the attacker's speed and momentum is actually 'felt' and flowed with. No different that in judo where the right throw is felt, or in Wing Chun or in Filipino hubut drills where you've got to feel and flow. Even a boxer can duck, parry and counter ---in a real fight. But its slowed down for teaching purposes!
projectbojinka 1 year ago
@projectbojinka No matter how fast you do it, you can't be faster than an effective hook. By the time you've stepped in and parried, you'd get hit by the other hand.
Kavafy 1 year ago
Good fundamental technique. Everyone in every system should try to pick this up and adapt it. And to those who are saying its not going to work, etc., no one move works all the time. Every technique works once in while, some with greater frequency than others. Learning the MA is about (in part) learning to chain any/all techniques together based on input under stress.
KenSpassione1 1 year ago
@BushiWaazup if it was the master doing it in the real shit, the attacker wouldnt be open for his 2nd shot. hed be bent over. it all depends on how fast and quick you can do the technique.
monkeyfrogs106 1 year ago
@monkeyfrogs106 not only that you can strike when you move in to grab the arm to stun the attacker.
Shadowcaster316 1 year ago
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shsh97com 1 year ago
Aparently, the preferred method of wearing the microphone in Aikido, is the under the Koshi-ita method. :)
Deke101 1 year ago
So what happens when you trap the guy's hand and turn away from him? Don't you leave the side and back of your hand exposed? What happens when he just pops you one with his other hand?
MobiusCoin 1 year ago
@MobiusCoin What if the guy has a gun? What if his friends do a drive-by on you?
I love the questions people ask on ANY martial art video.
What if peope got a clue and realized this is just a basic technique?
Deke101 1 year ago
Lesson 1 in boxing is to bring your striking hand back as fast as it went out. Aikidokas - go to a boxing gym and ask to practice grabbing boxers wrists, you'll see.
Andybaby 1 year ago
@Andybaby: I agree dude, I've been doing aikido for 6 years and stuff like this still bothers me. But I have to say that there are some other more direct ways of being more affective. But I doubt that i'll see anyone using Ikkyo in a real fight on a punch, wrist grabbing will do tho.
WtFidgE 1 year ago
@WtFidgE Ikkyo from Yokomenuchi is very difficult to pull off. Uke is almost never in the right position for Ikkyo after this strike. A Koshi Nage or a Kokyu Nage would be much easier. Now, in a Shomen Uchi or overhand strike, Uke is just begging for Ikkyo. This is not the point of the video. The point is a demonstration of this particular technique.
Deke101 1 year ago
@Andybaby Good point. As an Aikidoka since 1991, I can tell you the boxing jab is one of the hardest movements to deal with in Aikido. This is why, in Aikido, we do not deal with the jab at all as it is not a committed attack. Usually, we deflect the jab, move off the line and enter in for a direct or circular takedown.
Deke101 1 year ago
@Deke101 Well put. Moving out of the way- a devastatngly effective technique. Another point to consider might be that the hook IS the second attack, not the first. No one seems to have considered that. As an Aikidoka, do you think these techniques would work well against a boxer?
zarisstokell 1 year ago
@zarisstokell As an aikidoka, boxing techniques tend to be among the most difficult to deal with. Basic Aikido requires a committed attack in order to perform a technique. Advanced Aikido, however, does not. The non committed attacks of boxing can be dealt with using advanced direct entry techniques.
Deke101 1 year ago
@Andybaby
That's true...but most dumbasses on the street are not boxers. If you are trained to grapple...you can grab someone's hand easily. NOTE: i'm not saying that Aikido is the best self-defense system...that you have to find out for yourself.
twebb63 1 year ago
at 1:09 I thought the sensei broke the other's wrist haha
ThePaultergeist 1 year ago
Aikido for me is the greatest kid of martial arts ever. It's because most aikido techniques deals with countering an attack. So taekwondo, karate, kickboxing, boxing have no chance against aikido.
neilalbertclosa 1 year ago
Aikido for me is the greatest kid of martial arts ever. It's because most aikido techniques deals with countering an attack. So taekwondo, karate, kickboxing, boxing have no chance against aikido.
neilalbertclosa 1 year ago
@neilalbertclosa
Ah, so an individual's weight, height, strength, speed, and level of expertize have nothing to do with who wins a fight? You just put stile against stile, not a man/woman against another (or several) man/ woman? And there's no chance you are drunk/tired/injured? And you never feel fear/anger? And you always see the punch coming? And every single aikidoka has the same level of reflex and execution in every situation? And every guy punching you is retarded/over-committed/slower?
MariMano357 1 year ago
@MariMano357 no
espanolporaplicacion 1 year ago
im sure its difficult to know when the opponent tries a hook punch.. but this tecnique is great :D
DeathQuestion 1 year ago
but the 'opponent' in the clip shows no resistance ... in a real fight i bet nobody will be that ' co-operative' for you to grap him around ....
JI394 1 year ago
@JI394 what you dont understand is aikido deals a lot with joint manipulation. try this with a buddy...put your arms straight out. have your friend push your arms down and up while you resist the pressure and try keeping your arms in the same position. it will be harder for your friend to move it in those directions. now have your friend push your arms side ways left and right. no matter how strong you are, he/she will be able to push your left to right.
wasteeverybodiestime 1 year ago
@wasteeverybodiestime thank you your reply
JI394 1 year ago
@JI394 thank you for reading my reply
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rickewjr 1 year ago
aikido is powerful and good :-) especially if u can use ki energy
matty2199 1 year ago
This is really dangerous to do for self defense. An experienced attacker wielding a knife controls with the forward hand while waiting to stab at a weak spot with the other. The first stage exposes the kidneys to a strike, and is where a knife fighter would aim for.
zhoulotskunosprok 1 year ago
@zhoulotskunosprok thing is most people that are guna attack you arnt well skilled in knife attacks- if they are no matter what martial art you do you guna be pretty fucked.eskrima in a good ma to have against a knife attacker but at the end of the day if you practice a ma it will at least give you have a higher percentage of success.also i think aikido have a different technique against someone with a knife- again like other m arts.
BALAHAWALA 1 year ago
@zhoulotskunosprok thing is most people that are guna attack you arnt well skilled in knife attacks- if they are no matter what martial art you do you guna be pretty fucked.eskrima in a good ma to have....
BALAHAWALA 1 year ago
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@zhoulotskunosprok thing is most people that are guna attack you arnt well skilled in knife attacks- if they are no matter what martial art you do you guna be pretty fucked.eskrima in a good ma to have....
BALAHAWALA 1 year ago
@zhoulotskunosprok thing is most people that are guna attack you arnt well skilled in knife attacks- if they are no matter what martial art you do you guna be pretty fucked.eskrima in a good ma to have....
BALAHAWALA 1 year ago
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@zhoulotskunosprok thing is most people that are guna attack you arnt well skilled in knife attacks- if they are no matter what martial art you do you guna be pretty fucked.eskrima in a good ma to have....
BALAHAWALA 1 year ago
aikido is more a self suicide than a self defence!
ParkFight 1 year ago
Great self defense!
Yauzu16 1 year ago
I saw an aikido expert fighting with a Kickboxer last year. The fight lasted 3 seconds: feign left, right kick, aikido expert down.
darthzilio 2 years ago
if u dont believe in aikido nobody , ifis forcing you. One thing i can promise you we are in a fight i dont have to hit you coz i guarantee you, i repeat i guarantee you , you will hit the ground, and hit it hard!!
MAKHMOUDTAMOD 2 years ago
What makes you think you could beat me up? You don't know me and if you try these movie tough guy moves your gonna end up with a broken nose.
jakesilv 2 years ago
it looks quite nice but the other guy can land a punch in the face really easy if u do that...
norelon 2 years ago
Good control of all movement. This is good in full contact and this takes a lot of skill. And it is in the movement and physical part of one self, with a lot of training. I think this has help me to understand the movements of control . Not only the physical of it. Thanks a lot.
TigerJohn1948 2 years ago
To throw a proper hook you keep your elbow bent, so this wouldn't work- also when you throw a punch you hit and PULL YOUR FIST BACK- you don't leave it there fo someone to grab. I think AIkido may be a bunch of BS.
jakesilv 2 years ago
You know this is a demonstration. Go try to attack a Shihan and you kiss the ground before you have a chance to say "what the..." good luck despising talents.
metallictune 2 years ago
I doubt it- I've only seen Aikido work against willing partners who don't know how to attack properly. I'm totally willing to look at any info you've got that would show otherwise. If the gentleman trying to strike simply threw the punch and quickly pulled his arm back, as your supposed to do, this technique wouldn't be there. wtf is despising talents? I don't consider movie martial arts to be a talent-
jakesilv 2 years ago
You have only seen Aikido work against partners who do what is to be done otherwise some limbs could be broken and no one wants to sacrifice their limbs for the sake of making it more realistic. And one more thing; an aikidoka has to do his thing when the punch is coming and the balance is not settled. I mean the technique doesn't work even if somebody standing as if he is punching. In conclusion, in real life these techniques are not so innocent because you may never use your arm again.Got it?
metallictune 2 years ago
All martial arts have techniques that can break bones- the difference is that in other martial arts the techniques can be done to people against their will. If you need someone to throw a slow punch with improper, unnatural and ridiculous technique, which you can then easily counter, then Aikido is for you.
jakesilv 2 years ago
Of course it is for me, not the ones who don't know about martial arts. Other martial arts may have tecniques to break bone but in aikido this can be done accidentally.
metallictune 2 years ago
@jakesilv i take by your comments your knowledge of aikido comes from films or training clips,without wanting to dis you,a visit to a good aikido dojo might just give you a different view point. mstr po
pojood 1 year ago
@pojood Actually I've done some fairly extensive research on Aikido. I;ve studied it's roots and had the chance to train with some of its practitioners. While I find Aikido to be great exercise, graceful and fun to watch, I do not find Aikido to be a practical art for self defense. Have you tried any Brazilian Jui Jitsu? You mention Kumite in another post, are you familiar with Vale Tudo? Kumite style competitions exist today, in MMA, why do you think Aikido is absent from MMA?
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv apologies if i judged you wrongly,no brazilian,but original ju-jitsu including groundwork and karate for 45 yrs,i suppose it depends on how aikido is interpreted and practiced,from the ballet like displays to the more aggresive but perhaps less traditional form practiced by such as[ realaikiboys] &although at my age vale tudo would be a bit of a stretch,on the streets aikido perhaps with other techniques thrown in as always worked for me. enjoy your game, mstr po
pojood 1 year ago
why dont you fight with some black ass aikidoka belt dude then
doom3x 2 years ago
I'd love to. If I can find one willing to fight me I'll put it on youtube. I have found videos of Aikido fighters training with non-cooperative partners and its pretty funny. Aikido = bullshido.
jakesilv 2 years ago
@jakesilv" A grand master of this discipline who was teaching green berets in USA was challanged for full contact demostration by one of the members with pervous martial arts training. Result was that guy who challanged him suffered a broken wrist and arm in two places. " -
reddwarf50
cumpa120 2 years ago
That's a great STORY- do you have any proof?
jakesilv 2 years ago