me and beasto will upload some wars from today 4PL's matches, which we won and managed to advance to the gran final between us.
Beasto has some new shaky actions, TheSkillClinic you will have material to make a new video, in this ocassion I don't shake that much but you can find some if you put mega slowmotion though! :)
@Winghahaven So, is my 3 step 'guide' about 10 posts down a good description of how you manage the recoil so well? Got kinda curious seeing as I have a bit of trouble getting consistent tight groupings doing it that way but at least don't suffer the slightest from recoil drift. Also, were the 4PL matches streamed and if so do you have a link for the replays in good quality? ^^
Hey, just check my profile, I've uploaded more 4PL wars and also a recoil video with my mouse movement, subscribe to my channel for more and better videos! :)
sounds like someone got angry and is trying to justify someone else's ability to control their recoil by assuming he's hacking. he doesnt even get a kill in half of those videos.
@TakeoN1nJ4 In the video it looks like he shakes from frame to another, which means he can't have done it by hand. At least not with low sensitivity. If he was playing with a high enough sensitivity for this kind of movement, he wouldn't be able to aim this precise on the distances he shoots from, though they aren't big.
@RitterDK14 What are you on about with this not being possible with low sensitivity? The crosshair hardly moves so why would he need high sensitivity to pull it of? Sure he needs a mouse capable of changing sensitivity but thats pretty standard. And changing sensitivity when you scope in is standard procedure so that is reflexbased even for a chump like me. The hip shots are a bit trickier but they also shake more most likely due to the higher sensitivity setting on his mouse in those clips.
@TakeoN1nJ4 I'm on, that if he would have to move the mouse, just 1-2 cm in the time between 2 frames, which is about (@100 fps) 1/100 of a second on a good computer, then it would be impossible.
@RitterDK14 Well, that video isn't in 100 fps and isn't shown frame by frame so the skips which require a cm of mouse movements aren't visible. Is there a way to download the source video in its 100 fps glory so I can check it frame by frame? Also my Qpad 5K has a polling rate of 1000 hz which means 1000 reports per second, or 10 times per frame @100 fps meaning its possible for the mouse to send new data between frames. Moving between frames isn't needed, just constant movement.
@mp56amp Macros are "scripts" where you can record complex actions. Like recording the recoil of the AEK, then use the macro when playing yourself, so the recoil will be controlled by the macro, and then all your bullets will hit in the center of the screen - also called no recoil.
I was actually reading the ESL thread about this, and the excuses given were hilarious. No way to defend this. Anyway, nice video, it explains a lot for those that don't know how this stuff works.
I dont think its a macro, cus the if u look to the right of the number of bullets, he is not using single or burst shooting. If u have played a lot of BF3, u should know by tapping a and d while u shot no recoil will occur.
looks like the macro is switching ROF rapidly (full auto to single shot) as you can see in the intro alot of times after clip is spent the ROF switches to single shot.. simple but effective
@wamphyr000 Just because you miss doesn't mean you're not hacking. Hacking programs give you the BEST CASE scenario provided the conditions you give it. It does not GUARANTEE perfect accuracy; it DOES guarantee the BEST accuracy given the situation and how you use it. In this case, normally the AEK rebounds all over the place. His bumping/twitching behavior while tracking targets is blatantly obvious. Don't open your mouth when you have NO clue what you're looking at.
wow this is really bad for BF3. Im hoping that the battlerecorder get a release soon + dice does something to give the admins better tools for banning those kind of humans.
Very interesting video. I've never heard of these guys, but it was informative non the less. That's, I"m gonna keep an eye out for this type of behavior on my clan's server.
1- his accuracy is insane and he SPRAYS ALL TIME;
2- He spray at LONG distances and his accuracy is still insane
3-You might have a good accuray, but try to spray like him all day and still get 25%, i have 16% and i only get this bursting 3 shots at the same distance that he SPRAYS 30 bullets
fascinating allegation.. this would mean that he`s using an aimbot that aims for the screen center lol. the hard thing about countering horizontal recoil is you dont know which way its going left or right..whereas vertical always goes up ..awk has high rate of fire weapon ..so its even harder reacting as opposed to pre-empting the recoil. also ..the shaking is suspect.could be a technique of randomly shaking though to counter the recoil. the killing times are typical. i`m not convinced
Somebody can't excel in a video game apparently. Because he's better than 95% of the community, he muuuuuuuuuuuuust be a hacker. If you knew what counter strike source was then most of you would probably say VeryGames hacks too. Nobody has any definitive proof that epsilon hacks. Most of you read a title stating someone hacks and your close-minded selves think it must be true. Think for yourselves and watch them play.
an-94 its a beast if you can used a have 20 % accuracy so its yu can use this weapon properly its like LMG in your hand . i notice to this when i looking frag ovie that its not possibile to use EAK with full sprey & prey. they have something change with physics of game and netwotk smoothing. its easy to change that if you have knowledge .
Shit the hipfiring just gives it away. Who trys to compensate for that kind of recoil when you have a giant death circle to put on the guy. Nobody hipfires and shakes the mouse like that ever.
Hmm, actually, he would only have to control only two variables at a time because the bullets come out not at the exact same time. So for one bullet, he would shake it right or left then the next to the opposite of the first then so on and so on (and as you can see in the video, he's shaking it pretty damn fast.) Now, that may not cover every bullet but, it covers quite a bit of 'em. So he would only have to control the y,x then switch to y,-x or vice versa at a time.
This shaking is not normal nor can it be replicated by the human hand. Judging from this footage, clearly using macros. If you were actually trying to aim at a guy with higher sens your crosshair would merely look like you were trying to track the enemy, rather than bounce around rapidly and then back to the center all the time... Who knows how many cheaters there are out there.
Oh and in this video i notice he kept his rate of fire as default as possible. Where if you want very low bullet spread, you have to lower the rate of fire a bit in the macro. So he choosed to reduce recoil overall, but he kept same firerate. Notice how the bullets spreads to left and right while he has no sort of up or down recoil. AEK has big recoil going upwards.
He's using macros for sure. I can make the recoil go down,left,right, instead of upwards by adjusting the XY repositioning values, and for example i reduced M240B bullet spread to almost 0 even when full spraying. And ir does the same shakes :D
@noobstuntguy Ooor.. I have common sense and have the exact same playstyle with my aim. And if you are primarily only using one weapon, it's not hard to learn the recoil pattern of said gun. But yes, I didn't watch the whole video... Because I had better things to spend time on at that time. :)
all im seeing here is a guy shooting others as it was a fragmovie... there is no use of macro in this vid at all -.- god whiners..... shaky aim is the name..
Notice as Beasto's AN-94 has the 25% of accuracy, which is absurd for a such high-recoil weapon! Obviously I spent some hours spraying randomly with AEK to downgrade his overall and AEK's accuracy but I bet I hadn't enough time to downgrade every weapon and THIS IS the proof. :)
@wona1 At the beginning.. Yes. 34 minutes is pretty much nothing. I have around 2 hours with it and it is fairly little. My accuracy was around 30% the first 30 minutes but after you join couple servers where people are running around and your bullets seem to be paper it goes down to ~15%. True story.
@94wanted94 25% is not insanely high.... its good, not absurd. If he was using a macro to make him have no recoil, then his crosshairs would be smooth, his irons would be perfectly centered. Furthermore, the aek has a horrible spray pattern, there is no point in having a no recoil macro because the bullet deviation is awful after the first 2-3 bullets. If this is a macro, it is useless. There are vids of macros on youtube, it looks nothing like this. This is idiots jumping to conclusions.
@94wanted94 yeah he is definitely hacking then!... but not really, I have 29% accuracy with the AN-94 yet I don't even play professionally and yes I also spray because I played Enemy Territory just like Beasto used to.
I just love the noobs in RivaL who are committed of picking on Epsilon. What the hell is up with that? Beastos aim has been this since ever, and applying maths like this is just bs. Ive played against them, did not notice anything out of the ordinary when it comes to aim and the games we played were about 2-2 all of em. What are people crying about here? High sens + shaking = beastos playstyle.
Watch very closely a 2:31 to 2:35. In my opinion that seems like a very small but obvious snap from the target in the alley to a person behind the stack and then back to the target in the alley. That part specifically seemed very suspicious to me.
If you understand how the cursor/aim vector/recoil relationship works in almost every FPS you'll know this isn't a hack. Put simply the way aiming works is your mouse's position is reset to the centre of the screen every frame and the delta is used to move the aim vector. The recoil code also modifies the aim vector. Recoil does not modify your mouse position so unless this macro (Read the definition of a macro) can read the aim vector from memory it's not a hack. It's just a weird play style.
If you watch RELOAds (beasto) ET/ET:QW movies (for example: mamut.si - Extinction, an ET:QW Fragmovie - just search it on YT) you can cleary see that he is using "shaky aim", it's just his gamestyle.
@xxxlilxjayxxx But I just don't see anything weird or different compared to gamestyle beasto was playing in ET/ET:QW. Maybe I'm blind but don't think it's that accurate. I must admit that I don't play BF3 but still... I saw few macro videos on YT and any of them didn't behave like this "shaky". It doesn't even make sense since those guys were in many big LANs and winnig first places (eventhou it's not proper argument but still). Maybe they are cheating but there are many unclear proofs aswell.
@Datyos You can save your macro in memory of some mouses or keyboards, so it is impossible for anticheat software to detect it. Also QW has minimal recoil, only a little bigger than in Wolf:ET and because of that it is about hitting the best hitboxes, when BF3 is about shooting at enemy`s body. Spraying without aim in BF3 is something like trying to hit a sniper with the hyperblaster, but without aim.
@TheSkillClinic He has always aimed like this in every FPS game he has ever played, oh dear! must have been using macros and cheating for the past 10 years as well while playing for Dignitas and Mamut.si in other games...
If you think Beasto hacks then by that logic he hacked for Dignitas, Mamut.si, TLR and every other top MGC that you have never played for.
Like real sports, there will always be someone with a unique technique. Shame you are only seeing what you want to see.
@IndoJaps Please tell me who these people are and the names of the MGCs they play for. Beasto aka Reload has played for the top MGCs in every game he has played competitively.
'Rival team' has been around since BF1942(1st BF series) came out and they won numerous tourney in US and overseas cup as well. Actually these guys already noticed that weird aiming when that newegg video uploaded.
@IndoJaps An MGC is a eSports organisation that actively supports professional gamers and teams for online and LAN tournaments (financially). Beasto aka Reload has been supported by at least 3 or 4 different MGCs in his time playing FPS games professionally. In all that time he has used this aiming style.
Well i'm no pro in spotting subtle cheats or marco usage in BF3 but i know one thing for sure. My AEK does NOT shoot like the one in the video. Regardless of me adjusting on recoil both horizontal aswell as vertical. Look at the minimap when he's shooting, it twitches in a really weird way and then note that the "non cheat" gameplay does not have weird twitching in the mini map aswell.
24 year old here with ower 12years of fps gaming and about 9 years as admin that is 100% macros not as bad as aim bot but still not aloved so a BF3 perm ban wod be in order here!
@ImAnderZEL 12 year as a FPS gamer, you must've been pubbing all your life. This guy has been aiming like this for over 7 years (shaky aim) and played for dignitas, mamut.si, and not to mention won several LANS.
@Domz0r newer play competative FPS only RTS and newer cared about competative FPS exept CS that is exiting to see, when compedative players are playing BF not so mutch. But if his aim have looked liek this for 7 years and no one notis it untill now wod be a good point why i only find CS as intresting obiusly lodes of not so skilled player in competative BF gaming...
omg shaky aim is because the player is trying to follow the enemy AND counter the recoil the the gun produces by firing so many bullets in spraying. thats all relax
The thing is, people can say he's just shaking his hand, but I mean if you try to mimic that shaking, not only will it not be as precise, but it won't be as accurate, or as well timed. This is almost definitely a macro.
Your comparisons are fanatic, but not concrete. There's nothing stopping a legit player from shaking his aim to counter recoil, I've done it quite a bit in a few games to the point it mimics identical aimbots I've seen, but at least I know I'm legit. but those kids sound 13, wouldn't surprise me.
Every mediocre BF player and above should notice the cheat. It's so obvious. What I don't understand is, why zh1nt0 hasn't notice it. I don't say he knew, but...
have to be delusional If you're backing these cheaters up It's so obvious have you ever played an FPS? just cause someone won a LAN before doesn't mean he's shit now so he cheats fucking retards
Wow, I never noticed the shaky thingy and ingenious application of macros. These guys though they were slick... apparently not. Hopefully these cheaters are brought to justice.
me and beasto will upload some wars from today 4PL's matches, which we won and managed to advance to the gran final between us.
Beasto has some new shaky actions, TheSkillClinic you will have material to make a new video, in this ocassion I don't shake that much but you can find some if you put mega slowmotion though! :)
Winghahaven 13 hours ago 4
@Winghahaven So, is my 3 step 'guide' about 10 posts down a good description of how you manage the recoil so well? Got kinda curious seeing as I have a bit of trouble getting consistent tight groupings doing it that way but at least don't suffer the slightest from recoil drift. Also, were the 4PL matches streamed and if so do you have a link for the replays in good quality? ^^
TakeoN1nJ4 7 hours ago
@TakeoN1nJ4
Hey, just check my profile, I've uploaded more 4PL wars and also a recoil video with my mouse movement, subscribe to my channel for more and better videos! :)
Winghahaven 2 hours ago
Thx for this very informative video, learned alot. I alredy knew what macros are but i didn't know that you can use them to correct your spread.
Bazted93 23 hours ago
Lol, "Not even asians can do that". Epic comment is epic
RitterDK14 1 day ago
sounds like someone got angry and is trying to justify someone else's ability to control their recoil by assuming he's hacking. he doesnt even get a kill in half of those videos.
Mecha120 2 days ago
It really isn't hard to replicate the results by doing three simple things...
1) Lower sensitivity a quite a bit (Most gaming mouse have a button for changeing between preset sensitivity settings)
2) Get comfortable quickly tapping your strafe keys (A and D default)
3) Get comfortable doing quick small shakes with the mouse (which shouldn't move your crosshair more than a few mm from the target at most)
With these techniques in unison you can easily counter the recoil on the AEK at full auto.
TakeoN1nJ4 2 days ago
@TakeoN1nJ4 In the video it looks like he shakes from frame to another, which means he can't have done it by hand. At least not with low sensitivity. If he was playing with a high enough sensitivity for this kind of movement, he wouldn't be able to aim this precise on the distances he shoots from, though they aren't big.
RitterDK14 1 day ago
@RitterDK14 What are you on about with this not being possible with low sensitivity? The crosshair hardly moves so why would he need high sensitivity to pull it of? Sure he needs a mouse capable of changing sensitivity but thats pretty standard. And changing sensitivity when you scope in is standard procedure so that is reflexbased even for a chump like me. The hip shots are a bit trickier but they also shake more most likely due to the higher sensitivity setting on his mouse in those clips.
TakeoN1nJ4 1 day ago
@TakeoN1nJ4 I'm on, that if he would have to move the mouse, just 1-2 cm in the time between 2 frames, which is about (@100 fps) 1/100 of a second on a good computer, then it would be impossible.
RitterDK14 1 day ago
@RitterDK14 Well, that video isn't in 100 fps and isn't shown frame by frame so the skips which require a cm of mouse movements aren't visible. Is there a way to download the source video in its 100 fps glory so I can check it frame by frame? Also my Qpad 5K has a polling rate of 1000 hz which means 1000 reports per second, or 10 times per frame @100 fps meaning its possible for the mouse to send new data between frames. Moving between frames isn't needed, just constant movement.
TakeoN1nJ4 1 day ago
i'm really confused, what a macros?? and what am i supposed to see in this video ???
mp56amp 3 days ago
@mp56amp Macros are "scripts" where you can record complex actions. Like recording the recoil of the AEK, then use the macro when playing yourself, so the recoil will be controlled by the macro, and then all your bullets will hit in the center of the screen - also called no recoil.
RitterDK14 1 day ago
I was actually reading the ESL thread about this, and the excuses given were hilarious. No way to defend this. Anyway, nice video, it explains a lot for those that don't know how this stuff works.
26whitewolf 4 days ago
According to a thread on the open section of AA, it IS a cheat - not macro...
omfgiwantausername21 6 days ago
@omfgiwantausername21 link pl0x
KalashCL 6 days ago
@KalashCL
Im not gonna link to them... Its on their public section, you should be able to find it
omfgiwantausername21 5 days ago
ewww busted haha
cg8ball 1 week ago
I dont think its a macro, cus the if u look to the right of the number of bullets, he is not using single or burst shooting. If u have played a lot of BF3, u should know by tapping a and d while u shot no recoil will occur.
yngvaa94 1 week ago
nice one.
tskcthulhu 1 week ago
looks like the macro is switching ROF rapidly (full auto to single shot) as you can see in the intro alot of times after clip is spent the ROF switches to single shot.. simple but effective
cv6ady 1 week ago
You people are fucking idiots. How is he hacking if he's MISSING his shots?
wamphyr000 1 week ago
@wamphyr000 Just because you miss doesn't mean you're not hacking. Hacking programs give you the BEST CASE scenario provided the conditions you give it. It does not GUARANTEE perfect accuracy; it DOES guarantee the BEST accuracy given the situation and how you use it. In this case, normally the AEK rebounds all over the place. His bumping/twitching behavior while tracking targets is blatantly obvious. Don't open your mouth when you have NO clue what you're looking at.
DeltaElite121 1 week ago
@DeltaElite121 Just because you can't do it, doesn't mean he can't.
wamphyr000 1 week ago
@wamphyr000 so wallhack is not a hack?
Hugebull 1 week ago
@Hugebull We're obviously talking about a firing hack here, try to keep up.
wamphyr000 1 week ago
wow this is really bad for BF3. Im hoping that the battlerecorder get a release soon + dice does something to give the admins better tools for banning those kind of humans.
BroCkwurst 2 weeks ago
Very interesting video. I've never heard of these guys, but it was informative non the less. That's, I"m gonna keep an eye out for this type of behavior on my clan's server.
KingofKoopas1 2 weeks ago 3
@KingofKoopas1 Thanks mate, but i'm afraid that you'll be unable to keep an eye on this kind of behavior without first-person spectator mode..
TheSkillClinic 2 weeks ago 2
It would be great if you made a 60 second video of this, we would feature it on our anti cheat website. Nice analysis.
HackHunters 2 weeks ago
1- his accuracy is insane and he SPRAYS ALL TIME;
2- He spray at LONG distances and his accuracy is still insane
3-You might have a good accuray, but try to spray like him all day and still get 25%, i have 16% and i only get this bursting 3 shots at the same distance that he SPRAYS 30 bullets
Bitch please, stoping talking shit...
K1kuch1 2 weeks ago
I thought that macros weren't supposed to work in BF3.... :(
mkcvette96 2 weeks ago
nothing is wrong with macros
GeneralBobi 2 weeks ago
thats just like easy peasy its not even a macro its just recoil controle nothing special tbh
rouvenkolodziej 2 weeks ago
He cheats and still sucks, lawlz.
FILA22081989 2 weeks ago
He is just nervous.. take a chillpill
Ristimaa 2 weeks ago
All those misses MUST prove he's using a cheat? (and by that I mean that most cheats I've seen makes you hit with every shot =)
Strict666 2 weeks ago
shaky aim~~
onkai 2 weeks ago
how do you know the shakes aren't the video editing program? they are known to do some really weird things..
InfernalPossession 2 weeks ago
@InfernalPossession lol now i have heard it all
vikingbabo 2 weeks ago
fascinating allegation.. this would mean that he`s using an aimbot that aims for the screen center lol. the hard thing about countering horizontal recoil is you dont know which way its going left or right..whereas vertical always goes up ..awk has high rate of fire weapon ..so its even harder reacting as opposed to pre-empting the recoil. also ..the shaking is suspect.could be a technique of randomly shaking though to counter the recoil. the killing times are typical. i`m not convinced
yugimoto2005 2 weeks ago
Somebody can't excel in a video game apparently. Because he's better than 95% of the community, he muuuuuuuuuuuuust be a hacker. If you knew what counter strike source was then most of you would probably say VeryGames hacks too. Nobody has any definitive proof that epsilon hacks. Most of you read a title stating someone hacks and your close-minded selves think it must be true. Think for yourselves and watch them play.
r0ze1h 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
hope there is some trojan and u all cheaters will be hacked, 4 me that shit is cheat
radzio40k 2 weeks ago
lol at troll vid ROF button and guy has aim
yrkyork 2 weeks ago
So is a macro the same thing as like an aimbot? I'm shitty with terminology.
weezlz 2 weeks ago
so some dumb nigs is cheating at an fps...sounds pretty normal to me.
ballsthatclank 2 weeks ago
Rage?
c4rls 2 weeks ago
Sad.
HerrEilig 2 weeks ago
an-94 its a beast if you can used a have 20 % accuracy so its yu can use this weapon properly its like LMG in your hand . i notice to this when i looking frag ovie that its not possibile to use EAK with full sprey & prey. they have something change with physics of game and netwotk smoothing. its easy to change that if you have knowledge .
f0RtEkA 2 weeks ago
they were very offended on other teams in matches and always said that they were so damn good.
for them the victory is fun... not the game itself... sad shit
MastaMark121 2 weeks ago
thx for putting the effort in such a vid... another noob team exposed cheating!
Aristoq1981 2 weeks ago
This is just sad... hacking on an official competition...
TheJoao611 2 weeks ago
mm salty casual bf noob tears.
so tasty.
SuperMadkent 2 weeks ago
Shit the hipfiring just gives it away. Who trys to compensate for that kind of recoil when you have a giant death circle to put on the guy. Nobody hipfires and shakes the mouse like that ever.
LeprosyVirus 2 weeks ago
This isn't skill, it's a hack plain and simple. There is NO explanation for the no recoil. The best skill money can buy!!!
RAlgarJr 2 weeks ago
Hmm, actually, he would only have to control only two variables at a time because the bullets come out not at the exact same time. So for one bullet, he would shake it right or left then the next to the opposite of the first then so on and so on (and as you can see in the video, he's shaking it pretty damn fast.) Now, that may not cover every bullet but, it covers quite a bit of 'em. So he would only have to control the y,x then switch to y,-x or vice versa at a time.
appleheadchris76 2 weeks ago
This shaking is not normal nor can it be replicated by the human hand. Judging from this footage, clearly using macros. If you were actually trying to aim at a guy with higher sens your crosshair would merely look like you were trying to track the enemy, rather than bounce around rapidly and then back to the center all the time... Who knows how many cheaters there are out there.
raimoa1 2 weeks ago
@raimoa1 so you're telling that he has been cheating on shit loads of lan tournaments without anyone noticing?
shorednb 2 weeks ago
hey they play for money and that makes people to crazy things. epsilon be ashamed you shitties.
theasshat84 2 weeks ago
Clearly using macros, shame on epsilon. Learn to play like everyone else.
bobcatmustard 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
This is like saying top CS or Quake players are cheating, they are just way better than you. dealwithit.png
shorednb 2 weeks ago
@shorednb You are also a retard.
bcedakota 2 weeks ago
Oh and in this video i notice he kept his rate of fire as default as possible. Where if you want very low bullet spread, you have to lower the rate of fire a bit in the macro. So he choosed to reduce recoil overall, but he kept same firerate. Notice how the bullets spreads to left and right while he has no sort of up or down recoil. AEK has big recoil going upwards.
MegaZerOTV 2 weeks ago
He's using macros for sure. I can make the recoil go down,left,right, instead of upwards by adjusting the XY repositioning values, and for example i reduced M240B bullet spread to almost 0 even when full spraying. And ir does the same shakes :D
MegaZerOTV 2 weeks ago
I give you Colombo of the BF3 community. lol Nice fucking work my friend.
RedStarr2121 2 weeks ago
I don't see anything wrong(?)
33abz 2 weeks ago
@33abz then you obviously didn't watch the whole video.
noobstuntguy 2 weeks ago
@noobstuntguy Ooor.. I have common sense and have the exact same playstyle with my aim. And if you are primarily only using one weapon, it's not hard to learn the recoil pattern of said gun. But yes, I didn't watch the whole video... Because I had better things to spend time on at that time. :)
33abz 2 weeks ago
@33abz yea... I had also common sense but 10 minutes of the same footage made me change my mind.
noobstuntguy 2 weeks ago
I don't think macros can do that.
CopyrightPropaganda 2 weeks ago
SkillClinic, Thank you.
billylxxiii 2 weeks ago
all im seeing here is a guy shooting others as it was a fragmovie... there is no use of macro in this vid at all -.- god whiners..... shaky aim is the name..
DjZyfer 2 weeks ago
ROFL: battlelog*battlefield*com/bf3/en/soldier/Epsilon-beasto/weapons/349222505/pc/
Notice as Beasto's AN-94 has the 25% of accuracy, which is absurd for a such high-recoil weapon! Obviously I spent some hours spraying randomly with AEK to downgrade his overall and AEK's accuracy but I bet I hadn't enough time to downgrade every weapon and THIS IS the proof. :)
94wanted94 3 weeks ago 6
@94wanted94
are you retarded?, he have played like 34min with the an94.. 25% is totally normal for a good player..
wona1 2 weeks ago
@wona1 At the beginning.. Yes. 34 minutes is pretty much nothing. I have around 2 hours with it and it is fairly little. My accuracy was around 30% the first 30 minutes but after you join couple servers where people are running around and your bullets seem to be paper it goes down to ~15%. True story.
noobstuntguy 2 weeks ago
@94wanted94 im a noob and my accuracy is in the 20's with the an94...
massine10 2 weeks ago
@94wanted94 battlelog*battlefield*com/bf3/en/soldier/Mi7teR/iteminfo/an-94/310885608/pc/
i'm not pro player, but i have 23% accuracy
MrM7R 2 weeks ago
@94wanted94 25% is not insanely high.... its good, not absurd. If he was using a macro to make him have no recoil, then his crosshairs would be smooth, his irons would be perfectly centered. Furthermore, the aek has a horrible spray pattern, there is no point in having a no recoil macro because the bullet deviation is awful after the first 2-3 bullets. If this is a macro, it is useless. There are vids of macros on youtube, it looks nothing like this. This is idiots jumping to conclusions.
Thealiasguy 2 weeks ago
@94wanted94 My AN-94 accuracy is 21% I don't see how its that hard to get to 25% if you're a better shot than me (which isn't that hard!)
fistingwankers 2 weeks ago
@94wanted94 yeah he is definitely hacking then!... but not really, I have 29% accuracy with the AN-94 yet I don't even play professionally and yes I also spray because I played Enemy Territory just like Beasto used to.
battlelog*battlefield*com/bf3/soldier/biggyyyb/iteminfo/an-94/353914833/pc/
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@94wanted94 I haven't used AN94 that much, but with the 2-shot burst it is one of the most accurate AR:s.
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I just love the noobs in RivaL who are committed of picking on Epsilon. What the hell is up with that? Beastos aim has been this since ever, and applying maths like this is just bs. Ive played against them, did not notice anything out of the ordinary when it comes to aim and the games we played were about 2-2 all of em. What are people crying about here? High sens + shaking = beastos playstyle.
Phireman1 3 weeks ago
@Phireman1 i think there's something for you at the video discription, something about briks i think.
btw, i'm not from rival gaming.
TheSkillClinic 3 weeks ago 15
@Phireman1 they are just butthurt because they can't compete with top european teams.
squalloser 2 weeks ago
@squalloser You're a retard.
bcedakota 2 weeks ago
@Phireman1 Explain the instant movement from one aimed location to the next.
I am talking movement under 1/fps
Inhumanly impossible even with modern 7k dpi mice.
RoyAndKimble 2 weeks ago
@Phireman1 if he is that shitty at aiming then how the fuck is he playing in a clan
bajskorv1129 2 weeks ago
its a hack not a macro...
Direct4DriveDotCom 3 weeks ago
Bonus: skip to 10:31 to watch beastroll and wingayven swimming in a pool.
TheSkillClinic 3 weeks ago 2
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Domuxification 3 weeks ago
Realy nice video, i knew something was strange with Epslion.
Bunch of unlegit wann be's.
Sexperado 3 weeks ago
Commenting so I can find and watch this vid when Im not on a piece of shit netbook.
BelziBhaal 3 weeks ago
aek worst recoil?? i took that weapon because i find it has the least recoil... am I doing something terribly wrong??D:
wikiwikit 3 weeks ago
it just makes me sick to see this kind of stuff. Its makes me sad to see that gamers even at the highest levels use programs like these.
lkook13l 3 weeks ago
imo he is just a noob with high sensitivity mouse settings, and lol look how he always aim to men balls lol fag, this guy with no skill realy
art1k89 3 weeks ago
@art1k89 how is high sens for noobs ?
PKilmaster 3 weeks ago
Watch very closely a 2:31 to 2:35. In my opinion that seems like a very small but obvious snap from the target in the alley to a person behind the stack and then back to the target in the alley. That part specifically seemed very suspicious to me.
mchruss03 3 weeks ago
Well done, TheSkillClinic.
VgamesRoughneck20 3 weeks ago
Ty for the education, and shame on you Epsilon.
corvettefoo 3 weeks ago
I'm impressed. Well done.
Merth667 3 weeks ago
So easy to notice the cheating...
eck0mist 3 weeks ago
Epsilon must be laughing, everyone is accusing them of using a macro when they're actually using the no spread feature of some hack sites aimbot.
familyisbest123 3 weeks ago
I must agree it does appear that his aim seems to be constantly snapping to the centre. But there could be a possible valid explanation. :p
WaffyMlk 3 weeks ago
Also, who would stupid enough to record themselves in first person if such an obvious thing were a side effect of a cheat?
Xera1 3 weeks ago
"shaky aim" LOL.
just2saint4u 3 weeks ago
He isnt just 'shaking' while he shoots, they are full on jerks.
Cush1337 3 weeks ago
If you understand how the cursor/aim vector/recoil relationship works in almost every FPS you'll know this isn't a hack. Put simply the way aiming works is your mouse's position is reset to the centre of the screen every frame and the delta is used to move the aim vector. The recoil code also modifies the aim vector. Recoil does not modify your mouse position so unless this macro (Read the definition of a macro) can read the aim vector from memory it's not a hack. It's just a weird play style.
Xera1 3 weeks ago
If you watch RELOAds (beasto) ET/ET:QW movies (for example: mamut.si - Extinction, an ET:QW Fragmovie - just search it on YT) you can cleary see that he is using "shaky aim", it's just his gamestyle.
Datyos 3 weeks ago
@Datyos oh ffs.....
TheSkillClinic 3 weeks ago 7
@TheSkillClinic errrr.... care to explain? -________-
Datyos 3 weeks ago
@Datyos look at the "shaky aim" during slowed down replays. can a human do such accurate jerks at such speeds? nope.avi
xxxlilxjayxxx 3 weeks ago
@xxxlilxjayxxx But I just don't see anything weird or different compared to gamestyle beasto was playing in ET/ET:QW. Maybe I'm blind but don't think it's that accurate. I must admit that I don't play BF3 but still... I saw few macro videos on YT and any of them didn't behave like this "shaky". It doesn't even make sense since those guys were in many big LANs and winnig first places (eventhou it's not proper argument but still). Maybe they are cheating but there are many unclear proofs aswell.
Datyos 3 weeks ago
@Datyos You can save your macro in memory of some mouses or keyboards, so it is impossible for anticheat software to detect it. Also QW has minimal recoil, only a little bigger than in Wolf:ET and because of that it is about hitting the best hitboxes, when BF3 is about shooting at enemy`s body. Spraying without aim in BF3 is something like trying to hit a sniper with the hyperblaster, but without aim.
slovaPL 3 weeks ago
@TheSkillClinic He has always aimed like this in every FPS game he has ever played, oh dear! must have been using macros and cheating for the past 10 years as well while playing for Dignitas and Mamut.si in other games...
If you think Beasto hacks then by that logic he hacked for Dignitas, Mamut.si, TLR and every other top MGC that you have never played for.
Like real sports, there will always be someone with a unique technique. Shame you are only seeing what you want to see.
biggyyyb 3 weeks ago
@biggyyyb
So how you explain when people who discussing this matter too are actually a player that a lot better than him?
IndoJaps 3 weeks ago
@IndoJaps Please tell me who these people are and the names of the MGCs they play for. Beasto aka Reload has played for the top MGCs in every game he has played competitively.
biggyyyb 3 weeks ago
@biggyyyb No idea what MGC is.
'Rival team' has been around since BF1942(1st BF series) came out and they won numerous tourney in US and overseas cup as well. Actually these guys already noticed that weird aiming when that newegg video uploaded.
IndoJaps 3 weeks ago
@IndoJaps An MGC is a eSports organisation that actively supports professional gamers and teams for online and LAN tournaments (financially). Beasto aka Reload has been supported by at least 3 or 4 different MGCs in his time playing FPS games professionally. In all that time he has used this aiming style.
biggyyyb 3 weeks ago
@TheSkillClinic You clearly have no clue how long these 2 guys have been playing on a high lvl and in which games.
Domz0r 3 weeks ago
@Datyos so as Winghaven? rofllll grow up
AimPure 3 weeks ago
@AimPure Most of those clips are from beasto and if you compare those two you can see difference... or atleast I see difference...
Datyos 3 weeks ago
@Datyos Or he used macros in ET as well? LOL
chickenthr33 3 weeks ago
@chickenthr33 I'm sorry but dunno if you're trolling or just stupid :D
Datyos 3 weeks ago
Epsilon sounds butt hurt
fragdaddy247 3 weeks ago
Bad spelling. Awesome music. Thanks for putting this together; subscribed!
Satanickus 3 weeks ago
Epic fail
MadMudflap 3 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
A) Dumb for using macro/cheat
B) Dumber for showing the video
C) Loser
carlosisme1 3 weeks ago
Try it out yourself... I can control it the same way.
Svograth 3 weeks ago
GOD DAMNIT MAN! FUCKING SPELL CHECK IS YOUR FRIEND! You spelled so much shit wrong im shaking my head wondering if you graduated the 5th grade!
acesontilt77 3 weeks ago
@acesontilt77 im sorry :(
TheSkillClinic 3 weeks ago
@acesontilt77 "graduated FROM* the 5th grade" would be more accurate, almighty Grammar King. Now, I am off! I must return to the land of Grammatia!
GLaDOSofGH3 3 weeks ago
Well i'm no pro in spotting subtle cheats or marco usage in BF3 but i know one thing for sure. My AEK does NOT shoot like the one in the video. Regardless of me adjusting on recoil both horizontal aswell as vertical. Look at the minimap when he's shooting, it twitches in a really weird way and then note that the "non cheat" gameplay does not have weird twitching in the mini map aswell.
Rommelicious1 3 weeks ago
epsilon unfixed has lots of videos did you check them out?
noobEmata 3 weeks ago
@noobEmata No need, if 2 members use hacks, all other use it as well.
TheSkillClinic 3 weeks ago 5
@TheSkillClinic LOL WAT?
lujia 3 weeks ago
@TheSkillClinic That's a stupid logic you got there. By that logic if one door is orange all doors are orange, which fyi isn't true.
Qaletaqa 3 weeks ago
@Qaletaqa yeah but until they prove otherwise. all of them are not legit.
TheSkillClinic 3 weeks ago
@TheSkillClinic Rather prove that they are cheating instead, innocent until proven otherwise.
Domz0r 2 weeks ago
@TheSkillClinic Brilliant thinking. The Middle Ages called, they want you back. There is a witch-hunt that needs it's leader.
EmperorNinjito 3 weeks ago
@EmperorNinjito Roger that sir!
TheSkillClinic 3 weeks ago
so blatant... glad you pointed that out mate
they are an insane team but that was raelly ridiculous
DaBunnyKiss 3 weeks ago
lets all use macros ;)
jorgebosch86 3 weeks ago
Good work
wrubel1983 3 weeks ago
I never actually believed that ET will boost players skill in other games but after seeing this video and reactions here, I'll play ET more :D!
Datyos 3 weeks ago
haha get a life
ManoC21 3 weeks ago
Wtf I can kill faster than this at distance with my m16a3... His macro is pretty useless...
NikoxD93 3 weeks ago
How did u get those gameplays?
Darksidetr12 3 weeks ago
Guapo ! :-)
taamdg 3 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@TheBajingLoncat BF3 WAS A INSIDE JOB
AFGalwayz 3 weeks ago
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AFGalwayz 3 weeks ago
24 year old here with ower 12years of fps gaming and about 9 years as admin that is 100% macros not as bad as aim bot but still not aloved so a BF3 perm ban wod be in order here!
ImAnderZEL 3 weeks ago
@ImAnderZEL Hello famous man commenting on a video. Didnt know you had 12 years of FPS
ItsTheNabica 3 weeks ago
@ImAnderZEL 12 year as a FPS gamer, you must've been pubbing all your life. This guy has been aiming like this for over 7 years (shaky aim) and played for dignitas, mamut.si, and not to mention won several LANS.
Domz0r 3 weeks ago
@Domz0r suuuuuuuuure,
TheSkillClinic 3 weeks ago
@Domz0r newer play competative FPS only RTS and newer cared about competative FPS exept CS that is exiting to see, when compedative players are playing BF not so mutch. But if his aim have looked liek this for 7 years and no one notis it untill now wod be a good point why i only find CS as intresting obiusly lodes of not so skilled player in competative BF gaming...
ImAnderZEL 3 weeks ago
omg shaky aim is because the player is trying to follow the enemy AND counter the recoil the the gun produces by firing so many bullets in spraying. thats all relax
mujahedineheroi 3 weeks ago
@mujahedineheroi maybe u mean strafing?
IndoJaps 3 weeks ago
The thing is, people can say he's just shaking his hand, but I mean if you try to mimic that shaking, not only will it not be as precise, but it won't be as accurate, or as well timed. This is almost definitely a macro.
SCWolf 3 weeks ago 20
@SCWolf You only forget that he has been aiming like this the past 10 years, and you are trying it for 1 day.
Domz0r 3 weeks ago
fAIL
eipylOh 3 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Macro example: youtube.com/watch?v=ypjMN4EpUl0&feature=related
Aimbot example: youtube.com/watch?v=4r3Qp5TSxnU
clear differences to what is going on here.... just a player who has a peculiar shooting style
REPERYEAYA 3 weeks ago
I think its very clear, these guys are using macros in my opinion.
Outlawinmortal 3 weeks ago
Obvious cheat. Nice find!
tepkisiz 3 weeks ago
Your comparisons are fanatic, but not concrete. There's nothing stopping a legit player from shaking his aim to counter recoil, I've done it quite a bit in a few games to the point it mimics identical aimbots I've seen, but at least I know I'm legit. but those kids sound 13, wouldn't surprise me.
DarKcS2 3 weeks ago
Every mediocre BF player and above should notice the cheat. It's so obvious. What I don't understand is, why zh1nt0 hasn't notice it. I don't say he knew, but...
PCEliT1ST 3 weeks ago 12
@PCEliT1ST I bet zh1nt0 has so many dicks up his ass with this video
noobEmata 3 weeks ago
Based on BF3 player/server adin standards it's a clever hack/exploit BUSTED !
ctopslegaltube 3 weeks ago
have to be delusional If you're backing these cheaters up It's so obvious have you ever played an FPS? just cause someone won a LAN before doesn't mean he's shit now so he cheats fucking retards
djsdt2007 3 weeks ago
Wow, I never noticed the shaky thingy and ingenious application of macros. These guys though they were slick... apparently not. Hopefully these cheaters are brought to justice.
Phead128 3 weeks ago
A bunch of try-hard "pro" gamers using cheating to improve their performance, what a surprise!
thepopdog 3 weeks ago