Jetta TDI -30C Cold Start

[crash21244]

good engine!!!

[TheAutokenner]

What's that for a acute sound at 0:27 ??

[dejv1984]

@TheAutokenner freewheel on starter....known problem with VAG starters...

[TurbineWheelie]

@TheAutokenner Sounds like it needs to be replaced soon...

[noftchks1]

Coolant Circ heater is only way to go!

[runaway0401]

i didn't use a block heater and i started my car VERY similar to yours at 0 degrees fahrenheit. the 99-03 are the best. you dont need a block heater really. just cycle the glowplugs 5 times and the start is very good, no additives either

[runaway0401]

@runaway0401 including the "squeal" when you start the engine, it means the starter is dirty

[kingkongbong123]

@FlightinmyVeins your starter makes the same screech mine does lol, have you figured out why it does that? my guess is the starter cant disengage quick enough,

[TheAutokenner]

Both is right, but I prefer Turbo Direct Injection

[istipa622]

Turbo DIESEL Injection

[Andre609]

@istipa622 You're an idiot it's obviously Turbo DIRECT injection... it's an obvious fact that it's diesel... Look it up before posting a comment.

[istipa622]

@Andre609

first....I am not an idiot

and second....both is right, bud I more like and prefer turbo diesel injection so I draw this

[Andre609]

@istipa622 Ahh.... You prove yourself more and more to be a moron, and let me guess you don't even own one and just think you know everything about them, how do you differentiate between an older and newer diesel? OH an In-direct injection and a Direct Injection, Turbo diesel injection is just stupid if it were called that then the older diesels would be TDI's but no they aren't. I've grown up with vw's and audi's for a better reference and still own a 450k TDI.

[istipa622]

@Andre609

I own 3 diesels...one audi 80 b4 TDI (since 2000) 420 000 km

one Passat TDI (since last month) 220 000km

(and mazda premacy 2.0 DITD but this is not important)

so I know alot about diesels especially TDI ;)

by by

[Andre609]

@istipa622 And yet you still haven't got the terminology down, if I were to say turbo diesel injection to a guru he'd laugh his ass off. If you were to say TD that would make more sense if you were talking about old IN-directs like the older mark 3's and under. I just love it how people think they know everything once they buy something then wonder why they get shot down for it when trying to make a point. You still haven't argued my point from which i made last comment.

[SkankRemix3]

@istipa622 Yeah, you are an idiot. How can you prefer what is not right? fucktard.

[SkankRemix3]

@Andre609 I agree Turbo Direct Injection.. but it doesn't mean it is a diesel. There are Direct injection gas motors that are turbo too. making them also a TDI.. but not really, because VW has coined that name.

[Andre609]

exactly what i just said, turbo direct injection, i didn't say anything that it was narrowed down to just diesel for its use, however gasoline cars are just getting direct injection engines lol.

[SkankRemix3]

@istipa622 haha, what a fuckin idiot.

[zuberek03098777]

mi w seacie toledo też nigdy nie zamarzł pewnie dlatego że go używam tak jak książki nakazują

[savethebunnysusa]

gosh i miss my tdi, that thing was awesome in the winter

[rixogtr]

stupid diesel

[osvst]

wa wa wa wa wa.....eeepppp.... yep that sounds like a cold VW start lol

[krzys18iek]

Jaki typ, postawił na hamulcu ręcznym samochód na 30 stopniowym mrozie, co najwyzje moze go odpalić bo i tak nigdzie nie pojedzie ;P

[Prezes0007]

@krzys18iek a co za różnica? nigdy w vw na dużym mrozie nie zamarzł mi hamulec ręczny nie to co w twoim dużym fiacie...

[krzys18iek]

@Prezes0007 i tego Ci nie życze, a sprowokowac sie i tak nie dam

[lghdg]

@oworm In TDIs the plugs stay on some time after the engine has started for emissions.

[oworm]

@lghdg

Glow plugs cycle on and off until the cylinders reaches operating temp. If the plugs remain on continuously for any more than a few seconds at a time they will burn our pretty rapidly. You can test this by connecting a plug to a 12 volt supply and watch it burn out after a few seconds. On some diesels you can hear the relay clicking on and off as the glow plugs cycle.

[TDIMAXDIESEL]

@oworm no klicking on the volks diesel ! Always on up to 5 minutes !

[volnick1986]

0:24 My bad. Is the Sqeek

[volnick1986]

Clean and lubricate your engine starter go get rid of the squeak 0:26

[a2tim]

@lukasz6oo Siarę polakom robisz i tyle. Pisze się "very" oraz "good". Byś się człowieku chociaż nie kompromitował.

[Playa1sweet]

@FlightinmyVeins the sound inthe beginning is strange...its the same in my car when its really cold. is the engine turning only on 3 cylinders?? or whats the reason for this sound?

[FlightinmyVeins]

@Playa1sweet ?Diesels use the heat of compression to ignite the fuel. The colder the engine is the more difficult it is for the fuel to burn when injected. The TDI uses glow plugs when the engine first starts to ignite the fuel. Once the glow plugs turn off the engine relies on the heat from compression. On higher mileage engines due to wear there may be reduced compression so it takes a little longer for the engine to build enough heat to completely burn the fuel.

[FlightinmyVeins]

@FlightinmyVeins the noise that you are hearing is incomplete combustion and/or the combustion timing not being as desired.

[Playa1sweet]

@FlightinmyVeins thx

[oworm]

@FlightinmyVeins glow plugs don't ignite diesel fuel, they warm up the cylinders in a DI or the pre combustion chambers in an IDI to aid in compression ignition.

[FlightinmyVeins]

@oworm i can agree with you....but to say glow plugs don't ignite the fuel is not completely true. The glow plug itself is the actual location of combustion initially. This obviously does not apply once the engine is running.

[oworm]

@FlightinmyVeins You can test your theory by hooking up a glow plug from a battery and applying the hot tip to a jar of diesel. You might be surprised at the result. It may smoke but it wont ignite because it has a low flame point. You can actually hold a lit match above a pool of diesel and it wont ignite. If you heat the diesel to a high temp however you may have some success.

[FlightinmyVeins]

@oworm I agree with everything you said in this last statement....But we need to consider that the fuel is highly atomized once injected into the cylinder and it burns very readily. The ignition starts at the hotest point in the cylinder at that time....when the glow plugs are on...the glow plug itself and the area immediately around it is the hotest.

[oworm]

@FlightinmyVeins

I would agree with you if the glow plugs were actually glowing at the point of ignition but when the pre heat light goes off on the dash the circuit is dead and the plugs stop glowing. I might be wrong as far as the TDI system is concerned but in my years of owning diesels the circuit is dead after the predetermined pre heat time has been reached

[Z71offroad2]

@oworm Wow what are you baking cookies? Preheating really? It is simply cycling the glow plugs which heats the cylinder and that make the diesel combustion more efficient.

[oworm]

@Z71offroad2 Huh?

[oworm]

@Playa1sweet

The sound is normal on a cold start. Incomplete combustion is a result of the cyclinders not being at the optimum temp for complete combustion. Once it heats it will smooth out. Nothing to worry about,its pefectly normal in an engine which relies on compression for ignition

[Playa1sweet]

@oworm thanks

[93141612]

this is battery???

[guy014]

Turbocharged Direct Injection. RTFM.

[randomhero1172]

All diesels are direct injection, every single one no matter how old or what injection pump. The PD, common rail, and VP are PUMP and Fuel delivery methods. Common in different diesels throughout the world

[FlightinmyVeins]

@randomhero1172  I have to disagree with you that all diesels are direct injection...this is not true. There are diesel engines out there that are classified as indirect injection. The fuel is injected into a "pre-combustion" chamber that is a seperate chamber from the main combustion chamber and the two are connected with a small passage. The rest of your statement is true.

[kujuots]

@FlightinmyVeins it's not recommended to start engine just after heating plugs once, especially at such cold. heat them for minimum 3 times then start engine, it starts faster and no harm to your battery. :)

[CosmicTDI]

@kujuots

I disagree with this. Re-cycling the glows will wear down the battery. I cycle mine once then wait for the fuse box to "click" when they turn off (usually about 5 seconds after the light goes off) and my car starts almost always on the first try, even in below-0 F* weather. I used to cycle the glows 2-3 times but it would wear my battery down and make starting harder.

[art28332]

@FlightinmyVeins I agree. For example 1.9 td aaz 75 hp by volkswagen - indirect injection

[frosty9595]

@FlightinmyVeins Still part of the combustion chamber then if they are connected. Direct injection once again.

[meg81]

@frosty9595 your logic doesn't disprove basic diesel engine theory that goes back over 30 years....do your research...

[frosty9595]

@meg81 where in the hell did you drag that in from? Im well aware of how a diesel engine works.... it goes back at least 100 years to be correct considering there are diesels from the early 1900s. I was talking about comman sense.

[ManuelFerara]

@FlightinmyVeins There are also turtles that live underwater...Thought you should know ;)

[TDIMAXDIESEL]

@FlightinmyVeins Yes Sir ! IDI engines

[oworm]

@randomhero1172

I own a International Harvester (Navistar) 6.9 IDI. It powers a 1984 Ford F250. IDI means Indirect Injection. The smaller 1.8 Diesel motors in Ford Escort Vans and cars in the UK are all IDI.

[ericspda]

@FlightinmyVeins Thats hard to tell, based off the fact that the description says it was plugged in.

[FlightinmyVeins]

@ericspda my bad.....would it have started if not plugged in...probably....the mag. block heater never really was that effective....now i have a VW coolant heater and it works really well.....

[ericspda]

Whoa, that thing sounds TERRIBLE when it first starts up... -30ºC shouldn't be a big deal with a block heater. Would it start if it wasnt plugged in?

[gangsterboat69]

If you cycle the glow plugs 3 or 4 times it starts WAY easier

[BERLINGO4255]

Thats actually a VW bora you have there. model 1999-2005

[FlightinmyVeins]

pretty sure it's a jetta GLS TDI

[peterkuhf]

@FlightinmyVeins No it's official a VW Bora , named Jetta in us and canada

[bigM10231]

@peterkuhf a bora is the awd version of a jetta

[tazaki1]

@bigM10231

Uhm no , awd drive is called 4 motion in the vw family .

So we have a

Vw Golf 4 Motion

Vw Bora 4 Motion

Vw Passat 4 Motion

etc etc . Jetta (official bora) is just a renamed for the us and canada region . Same thing about the Rabbit (official golf ) .

[mixo04]

@tazaki1 bora and jeta are 2 different cars! :) try to deny it :)

[er8s3r]

@peterkuhf Jetta and Bora in Europe are two differents models of VW

[pikaporeon]

@BERLINGO4255 half the world calls it a Jetta, the other half calls it a Bora. Funny how different places have different names for their cars.

[max8362004]

- 3 no - 30

[mmmbilly]

How long do you have to wait before that shit is drivable? I have cold starting my car in winter.........

[FlightinmyVeins]

@mmmbilly It's driveable almost right away....you just have to take your time....

[SkankRemix3]

@mmmbilly

As soon as you have decent oil pressure (Assuming proper weight synthetic oil is used.. like 0w40) you can drive off. It is advised at keeping the revs low as it is still cold, but if its got oil pumping, its fine.

[ryfin2000]

Wow , amazing how diesels have evolved. My dad owned a Rabbit diesel in the 80's aparently at -30 it would not start, under any circumstances. So if it got too cold, he'd leave it on overnight :P Cost him, what, 25 cents in diesel back them xD

[FlightinmyVeins]

where do you live?

[TheSmartdude11]

wat is a glow plug?

[FlightinmyVeins]

A glow plug is a small cylindrical element that protrudes into the cylinder, When turned on it becomes extremely hot and allows for easier initial combustion of the fuel once injected.

[TheSmartdude11]

ooohhh

[Gixter1000]

I have a Jetta VR6 it sounds like your starter keeps spinning for a half sec or two like mine. Sometimes it shreeks for a good second. Whats up with that!

[FlightinmyVeins]

Yeah i've heard it's because the pinion gets dry. Because of the tremendous gear reduction from pinion to ringear....When the ringear drives the pinion for even a fraction of a second the pinion spins at tremendous speeds.

[hoffone]

I got a 06 TDi and its been to -34C this year. I have not plugged it in once tho. As long as i give the glow plugs plenty of time to heat up it starts very good :). Oh and the heater is pretty amazing i must say just takes a few min's tops to heat up. This is designed by German's yo they are used to dealing with cold ass climate's im thinking.

[czaban]

I have Vw bora 99' 1.9 tdi and it starts on -30 like yours, but mine is without block heater ;)

[Capt421]

what does the magnetic block heater do?

[bloodthirstyrobot]

Thanks for sharing. I'm thinking of buying a TDI and I live in a northern climate, so I'm curious...do you find that the TDI takes longer to heat the interior on cold mornings compared to gas-powered engines?

[FlightinmyVeins]

Yes the TDI definetly takes longer to get up to operating temp. I bought a coolant heater from VW that goes inline with the oil cooler hose and heats the coolant very well...that makes a big difference.

[41Nizmo]

does the magnetic heater need to be taken off before you go anywhere or is the magnet strong enough to stay attatched to the block or oil pan?

[Filosofen88]

Some TDI's got diesel burners to heat the coupe with until the engine's reached enough temperature. My Opel Corsa TDI has one and it blows hot air into the coupe almost instantly.

[faithless1988]

@Filosofen88 Opel Corsa TDI doesn't exist :D

[Filosofen88]

Uhh, okey. Why do i own an Opel Corsa TurboDiesel then!? It's a 1.3 liters 75 hp tiny diesel developed by Fiat and bought by Opel to put in their small cars. Go have a look at Opels website. It's the best car i've ever had with outstanding economy.

[faithless1988]

@Filosofen88 CDTI but not TDI

[Filosofen88]

CDTI is the same as TDI. CDTI stands for Common rail Diesel Turbo Injection. TDI stands for Turbo Diesel Injection.

[xiufengliny]

Turbo Diesel Intercooled

[klramon]

Turbo Direct Injection

[comisaruful]

@klramon incorect :( TDI means Turbo Diesel Injection :D

at this model the injection is not direct !!

TDI (Turbodiesel Direct Injection): Volkswagen [ „PumpeDüse”(at this model in this video) or Common-Rail( avaible between 2008 ) ] :D:D

[klramon]

@comisaruful No it means "Turbocharged Direct Injection" look in wikipedia. PDs were allready direct injected. Even the distributor injection pump were direct injected and i mean it is the 1st gen TDIs.

[comisaruful]

@klramon NO ! 1st type was direct injectiuon with normal fuel pump , next was the PD (PumpeDüse) and now the CR ( Common-Rail) fuel injection !!

At this model the type of injection is PD :D

[klramon]

@comisaruful dude my friend repairs all this engines every day. It is direct injected. This pump sits direct over the cylinder head and injects the fuel directely into the combustion chamber. And all of the tdis are direct injected. VP, PD and CR. Verteiler(einspritz)pumpe, Pumpedüse and Common Rail. That´s why they call it tdi. Turbocharged direct injection.

[comisaruful]

@klramon I know man :) I have 7 TDI`s in life , all LT 35 :X:X:X

the best with PD :X

My uncle is mechanic :P

[Dualshock21]

@klramon Turbo Tiesel Injection

[CIKO32123]

@klramon isn't it turbo diesel injection?!

[klramon]

@CIKO32123 Nope go to wiki and it says turbo direct injection. If it was turbo diese injetion it wouldn't make any sense.

[CIKO32123]

@klramon ok

[dsmith308]

You're all wrong. It's Turbo Direct Injection. Not that it really matters.

[CIKO32123]

not turbo diesel injection?

[ntabonkerleo]

oh yes, it definitely does take longer but you have heated seats!!

[seank197321]

I got mine started at -32 without any heat source.... Im sad I have to sell mine. Despite the juxtaposed opinions people have about VW's mine was a true workhorse.

[Capt421]

what does the light with the quotation mark indicate?

[Pendemic]

The hand brake.

[simplename92]

haha you must be joking! dumb person

[myVW4LIFE]

where do you live that it is -86°F?

(or -30°C)

[FlightinmyVeins]

actually -30C is equal to -22F

[simplename92]

your a retard

[myVW4LIFE]

um sorry i got the wrong info fucker!

[davecfromskies]

where did u get the magnetic block heater from? and my car makes that screeching sound when i start 2 what is the cuz of it the sound right after it starts

[nicogi]

That's the starter pin that needs to be lubricated. A lot of VWs from that generation have the same problem.

[pile846]

That's pretty good for how cold it was.