Absolutely gorgeous! Sigh why can't modern pianists create such lush and sincere performances, I just find much of today's pianism lacking emotionally. Everything here is wonderful, the rubato, the phrasing, and the personality and art he brings to the piece. Thanks very much for sharing.
@TheDardanius Because we've sold out to technology. Look at the insanity we are dealing with these days...scientists hoping to make computers "have human emotions"? To me that is the sign of an insane mind. Art has been thrown to the dogs in our society,but one thing true art never does is place ego and the artificial ahead of a fellow soul. Being alive is better than knowing things about being alive any day IMO.Our society is about knowing, not living. That is why we have no Mozarts these days.
What an intellect! Every note perfect; every phrase perfectly formed; every tone perfectly nuanced. Great! Great! Astonishing! Even Horowitz doesn't approach this, at least in his performance at the White House.
It must've been great for Sergei to know that no other pianist alive was better than him, so he could just play without having to worry about being criticized, and just let his music flow from his fingers.
Cannot say thank-you enough for posting..................Everyone enjoys trying to play classical piano, but the composers cannot be appreciated by listeners until they are played properly.
Not until I had listened to this recording did I realize that right the end coda, the main theme is being played. How many pianists have overlooked this?
Hi, I dont't speak english well, sorry for that, one question, i want to know where do you bought the disc of rachmaninoff, i want a disc of him playing, and how much money do you buy it. thanks
CONTD- R accompanied Kreisler in concert and on records. Stravinsky said
Ah, but what's the use of pointing out facts to you, Ernesto the Ignorant Troll?
Perhaps you, a pinhead, would eject from your student orchestra a genius who is acclaimed by the greatest musicians around the world (in his time and ours) because he is beyond your understanding and makes you feel uncomfortable and angry. The rest of us, who have minds larger than a pin, know R gave the world beauty. You've given - what?
CONTD- that his conducting was among the greatest they had ever heard. The Met wanted him to conduct Tchaikovsky's "The Queen of Spades" (one of his specialties from the Bolshoi) in New York; he refused.
He left only a few recordings of his conducting. Search YT for Rachmaninoff conducts Symphony No. 3 in a minor.
He performed hundreds of concerts with top orchestras. Gustav Mahler himself conducted the premiere of R's 3rd Piano Concerto, with R at the keyboard.-CONTD
Estas notas te embuelven en un manto,suave y delicado, que te hacen prisionero y esclavo de tan sublimes sonidos celestiales que te hacen pensar que estas en el paraiso.
That's my great-grandmother on the right, just near the cardboard Steinway!
she was a real Rachmaninov fan, right from the start. Saw him at the Battersea Hippodrome, with Rimsky-Korsakov.
We still have the bandana and promotional flyer at home. said he was a nice, shy sort of man. Nothing special. But BOY what a pianist. Such class. Quite Romantic. He made it big.
interesting the delicate approach here in the first movement. specially the beginning. Rachmaninoff was also an interesting interpret not only interesting composer.... he is one of the few composer who knew how to play a piano. Chopin Schumann Liszt are the well known other ones.... they did influence the pianists of the 19th and 20th century and also the piano production and evolution.
For devotees of great romantic piano playing from the 20th century this legendary recording cannot fail to enthral. For me the first and second movements are ideally dramatised, however he takes the funeral march too quickly therefore killing its solemnity not to mention his tampering with the score. The final mvt is wonderfully eerie and spooky.
He might have taken the funeral march too quickly because of time constraints; Godowsky was known to do this a lot and change his style of playing for the sake of primitive recording techniques.
i love calling rachmaninov or rubinstein (either) the best pianist of all time and then watching all the "liszters" getting upset over it and wasting there time with pages of reasons... even if i aggree. its just so much fun.
When you get to the level that Rachmaninoff, Liszt, Chopin, Rubinstein (Anton and Artur), Horowitz, Gould (although I can't stand his playing), Gilels, Pologerich, Kempff (Wilhelm and Freddy), Richter, Van Cliburn... people on that level it all becomes personal preference.
For me, if I was absolutely pressed into chosing a favorite, probably it would be Richter. Though, Absolutely I love everyone I named, and many more.
i'm desperate .i' looking for a piece by chopin but i do not know how it is called it starts by the following: mi la si do re mi fa si do re la sol fa mi re mi.please help me if you can.thank you
pues no se si pianista pues no tenemos el placer de escucharlo tocar en ninguna grabación por la época en la que vivió pero claro que era un excelente compositor para el piano, tomemos en cuenta que dedicó toda su vida como compositor al piano, quién más hizo esto? además de que tenía un toque! uff! que bellas obras tiene =)
In my top 1 list! I haven't found a pace to match this power, speed, grace, agility for especially this first movement. Mind you I haven't looked hard, but I trust Rachmaninov very much. He has a climax builder instinct equivalent to that of Gorowitz. In my opinion, I deem these two at the top of the "Climaxbuilding Ability" list.
dear ernesto ... god has no limits .. and maybe u willl not agree with me for understanding god the same as i understand him regarding to my religion ...
becuase god have no place nor time ... try not to be limited of understanding god ... and please if u wanna reply try through a fact not just talking randomly like most poeple do
"There is no limit to the imagination of people who put no limits in what their god can do"
Based on this fact, I now understand why you ask your god to bless Rachmaninoff's concert. But how you know he will actually do it? Or you need an act of faith for that?
ur statement ,"There is no limit to the imagination of people who put no limits in what their god can do" , which it's not a fact w.r.t me but just an opinion ,, and mine for u too the same ... but i tell u in anthology which am studying belives that human;s mind have no limits and moreover it CAN reach god which is "infinity" but it immpossible regarding the abilities ... hence , human's mind have no limits....
I am sorry but I stand by my statement: your imagination doesn't need to have limits because it is all imaginary, and so you can imagine your god. But your mind must have limits, although we don't know them exactly.
About the people you mention, I respect them too. I just don't see what a blessing will do for them, since they already lived their life. Or you think blessings can go back in time?
if u belive that when a person dies his works dies also ... sometimes u must treat poeple not like animals .. not to use them , the idea of using a scientist or musician for developoing our world and then when he dies u forget him ,,, u must love him and "bless" his works .. becuasse I CAN SEE GOD in him
and for blessing , i just ask god to bless everything mankind did in history like ,beethoven liszt, einstein ... and so many great poeple .. just asking for blessing them .. translation: respecting them :)
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Before you guys get ahead of yourselves, you are using god with a small 'g' which seems like it means like he has another superior that starts with a capital 'g', like this: God. Jehovah God. Yaweh!
Schneiden, I don't think the small or capital 'g' makes any difference. It is all the product of your imagination anyway. In your particular case, Jehovah was invented some 4000? years ago, so it doesn't make a difference after all these years to write it with small or capital 'g', or as some Jews do, as g-d ! But here we should care about music instead...
Right. God is simply a word made by man. The word represents a higher authority no matter how the word is spelled or capitalized. Here the word means of course a noteworthy representative.. Rach was one of the greatest pianists who ever lived. A magnificent performance of one of the monuments of piano literature.
dear ernesto ... god has no limits .. and maybe u willl not agree with me for understanding god the same as i understand him regarding to my religion ...
becuase god have no place nor time ... try not to be limited of understanding god ... and please if u wanna reply try through a fact not just talking randomly like most poeple do
It will always surprise me how such inflamed arguments arise about insignificant things of life. Can we not listen objectively, without criticism, without saying: this is what's best or worse, and most importantly, without teraing each other apart?
It always surprises me the contradiction in those taking a high stand to criticize others for criticizing, especially when they remark that the other's opinions are over insignificant issues... I suspect that this comes from a feeling that their own opinions are insignificant.
it's obvious that all these negative comments come from the ranks of players far more skilled than Mr. Rachmaninoff, otherwise why would someone bother to speak judgments of others when they themselves have no knowledge how to even approach artistry or mastery at this level... I'm sure they've all posted links to their own videos right? HA!
HA! Amazing how many silly posts appear here predicating this false concept that one has to be 'better' than the object of criticism.
It's a pleasure to see how many use their personal freedom judging, criticizing to their heart's content whatever is put out here for public consumption.
Then explain the basis of your deep understanding of music in performance... Music is a language all its own and how does one come to learn that language?? Great musicians and composers speak in that language and how do we approach their methods or understanding without knowing the language? That's all I mean... Sure i might hear interpretations of pieces that i like better, but I won't be the fool to insult geniuses when I can't approach their artistry.
The language of music is based on the rules of melody and harmony that make sound pleasant to the ear (definition of 'music'). It has evolved over the last centuries and we each learn to appreciate this language by listening to it. And yes, it would be foolish for you to insult geniuses if you don't understand their art. But if you understand music, you have a perfect right to criticize musicians, geniuses or not. Especially in your opinion of their playing, not their composing.
Ok but the fact remains that your criticism would hold more water if you in turn understand his interpretation and how to interpret the music better, but how can you if you don't have any knowledge of how to play the instrument... Myself I am in the process of learning piano and beginning to understand the complexities of th instrument.... you're splitting hairs... it's like saying Van Gogh should used a different shade of red! hahaha!
The fact is, jedijenkee, that I have been playing the piano for decades, including this nice sonata. But you don't need to be a player to understand this music. If you are just learning to play, I suggest that you form your concept of this music from serious performers who don't improvise but respect the indications of the composer. There are many good performances available here on youtube.
So you can play this piece more accurately than Mr Rachmaninoff.... obviously if you can play it, then you prefer your own interpretation, so post it... show me how this is supposed to sound! that is my whole point!
here's what's really depressing--we have here one of the supreme artists of the piano playing one of the major masterpieces of the piano repertoire in his uniquely affecting way, and I bothered to read the petty and vulgar squabbling in the comments section! Dear Mr. Rachmaninoff, thank you so much for so many fine recordings which have touched and inspired me, and remind us all of what is noble, beautiful, intelligent and heartfelt.
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all you arguing people really need to think about what is important. none of it really matters. at all. the persistent ones must have a hard time in life.
I apologize to the others who have read the comments and viewed this argument; Rachmaninoff and Chopin go together like bread and butter, and this performance is for the ages.
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It's good that you apologize, alvinkuo, but don't worry. I doubt that many take your opinion seriously. Like this bread and butter togetherness. You listen with your stomach? And yes, this performance is of old ages. Today's serious pianists don't let themselves be dominated by whimsical sentimentalism and strange moods. There are too many excellent performances they can be compared against. Good for us the public!
So you think Chopin was dominated by whimsical sentimentalism? Why then his compositions are free of it, while many of their performers are so full of it, like Rachmaninoff is here? Your idol definitely plays SCHMALTZ here. Not all his fault, this was typical of Chopin playing in his days.
I'm not criticizing Rachmaninoff as a person. I'm judging this particular recording. You don't have to be so sensitive and lash out over some matter-of-fact.
@Ernesto7608 alright, let's see what Chopin playing is these days....... Pollini, a complete robot.
Don't you think that there was a reason why Chopin wrote it? Was it because he wanted performer to adhere completely to the score? What use is that - to anyone?
Rachmaninov was one of the greatest, with Paderweski, Sofronitsky, etc. What you see as "whimsical sentimentalism" is actually quite rational. It is the communication of the meaning behind Chopin's score - in Rachmaninov's terms.
I'm sad for so little musical mind in your post. How could "a complete robot" become a winner of Warsaw's Chopin competition and then follow such a brilliant career as pianist?
I agree that Rachmaninoff was a great composer. But as a pianist, he shows here poor mediocrity. His sentimentalism was probably rational, a product of his times.
A score is never all inclusive, but if Chopin wrote pp, don't you think he wanted pp and not ff? Otherwise it would not be written.
@Ernesto7608 You're missing the big picture. Just like no one cares if he makes a wrong note. He can do whatever he wants. If it sounds good, it is good.
You are missing the big picture. If it sounds good to you, it might not sound good to others. Of course he can do whatever he wants now, he is out of our reach, RIP
@Ernesto7608 "little musical mind" could aplty describe Pollini when you hear him express nothing but notes from a page. Can you consider that Chopin cared more for the emotion expressed in this piece (I assume in your example you are refferin to 3rd movement), rather than particular dynamic markings which express it to no one except whoever's going to perform it?
@themindandmusic I hate having to contradict you. But dynamic markings are written for the performer to pass on to the listener.
I just compared the music on this page with the performance of this piece by Emanuel Ax (one of my favorites). His version is at least as expressive as Rach's one, but without MANNERISMS, MOODS that sound like schmaltz. Of course your idol played according to the style of his days. But that old style was corrupt. I rate Ax's playing at least 10 times better.
@Ernesto7608 I hate having to contradict you, but dynamic markings don't leave much for the listener..... again, the score can't play itself or express it's own ideas, and if one were to adhere only to the markings on the score, they would play like a robot. In itself it's incomplete, why do you think it takes two artists - a composer and a performer - in order for it to be MUSIC.
A score is never "complete", but it gives individuality to a piece of music. Whatever is written in the score should be respected as it reflects the will of the composer. A serious performer will not challenge the score and modify it at his whim because he likes it more in a different way. Any performer is free to compose his/her own music. Rachm. did this, but he failed to respect the wishes of Chopin in his performances, no matter how trivial you think dynamic markings are.
@Ernesto7608 The score gives indiduality to a piece, but apparently the performer does not. Why not have a computer play this, as they do on those composition computer programs? It's feasible to bring everybody to Carnegie Hall, wire up a computer to an amplifier, put the score of this sonata into the computer and let it read everything exactly. Why does a human being have to play the music? Also listen to how he sings in his playing......
@Ernesto7608 If Rachmaninoff is a mediocre pianist as you imply...
Well then I am head of a gang from outer space that loves Rachmaninoff and will capture all of his his critics. If they can´t convince us - We will cook them alive and eat them.
@jameslill ok, one doesnt not need to "be at least 20 before the really "get Rachmaninoff." im 15 and i appreciate him more than most. He is my god. Don't make assumptions of age. It has nothing to do with age, but with understanding of music.
alvinkuo was Not worrying about you(a little insight into the self absorbed nano-existence of our Ernie folks).
Excuse me for you not being svelt of mind enough to understand that I definately do not listens with my eyes?WTF??
I wont even go into the other dynamics behind it as you will obviously never understand that.Far beyond your capabilities old son.However thought I would point it out so everyone other than you can have a chortle at your expsense.
Dread, not only are you not svelte of mind but even less svelte of language. Ha, you speak (write) a dialect from Micronesia?
If you don't listen with your eyes, what are you ranting about not being able to listen? Why are you bothered by what people write here? While you read you cannont listen? A single-task creature, like the Comodore 64? A piece of museum... I point it out so you can dust off yourself for your exhibition.
Since comments here bother so much your listnening experience, DjNgatiDread (!), you must then listen with your eyes. What you use your ears for? I see, they are just two vents for the empty craneal cavity of yours.
after listening to horowitz version it seems like rachmaninov likes the third movement fast and the first slow( i'm not saying this is bad so don't start attacking me!)
Well Ernesto, not being a pianist, you don't understand the intricacies and voices brought out by the masters. Frankly with your tastes, I will be surprised if you are in a professional orchestra.
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Don't worry about me, alvinkuo, but if we talk about professional orchestras, they would throw out a Rachmaninoff like this one in a millisecond. Such temperamental, moody person could never participate in an ensamble with others, because he would immediately take off in 'intricacies and voices'in opposite directions from the rest.
Professional orchestras throw out a Rachmaninoff...
How the heck do you know what professional orchestras do, especially since orchestras like the New York Philharmoic and Philadelphia Philarhomic have played with him? The bullshit stops here; if today's orchestras can play with Argerich, Lang Lang, and Pletnev, they can certainly handle a Rachmaninoff.
You can keep on arguing in the comments section. Just remember your opinion really counts as nothing in the musical world.
The bullshit stops here, alvinkuo? Why you keep posting then?
You remember what you posted? It was about playing IN a professional orchestra, not WITH a professional orchestra. I'm not sure if Rachm. ever played IN an orchestra, I doubt that he would have lasted. Any other problems you have with my opinion?
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If you are asking alvinkuo, demosj,
that talk about soloists and orchestras may be an interference effect from his overloaded neurons trying to understand the intricacies and voices brought out by the masters. I hope he does not lose his hearing.
Some truth in it. Rachmaninov never played with certain conductors because Rachmaninov needed to get his way. But there were many great conductors who'd happily follow Rachmaninov's lead.
Rachmaninoff was the chief conductor and music director of the Bolshoi Theatre.
The Boston Symphony Orchestra's board offered him the conductorship twice (he turned them down - the orchestra was not up to his standards).
He frequently conducted the Moscow Symphony Orchestra at home and on tour. In America he conducted the Philadelphia Orchestra (and dedicated his Third Symphony and Symphonic Dances to its regular conductor Ormandy).
The greatest musicians of his day were unanimous-CONTD
I agree with Ernesto7608 that modern cinema is underappreciated. Nostalgia to quality is like hunger to taste... or something.
Hard to say about music, though. Paganini was a pioneer, but for contemporaries, like Vengerov, those techniques are not something as amazing anymore. So, to be amazing, you have to be a fuckin' 'ell.
It's not off-topic - Chopin was a pioneer, but how exactly did his playing sound?
I'll be a coward and avoid with a: "We'll never know anyway."
piano elias: you are not right either in your opinion that music has no clear cut way to define it. But if you really want to express pointless wishy-washy overgeneralizations, you should take them off this comments page.
like latin. Look at the new generation. Very few would say "I listen to classical music" I mean have we seen a Mozart for the last 50 years? I personally like classical music much more than songs these days. Its much more sophisticated and difficult to learn than modern music.
But Latin, MI6MI5, does not serve any practical purpose anymore. Classical music is very relevant today (just see all the discussions on youtube). It is like classical physics, Newton's laws, that all children learn in school today... even as Newton has been gone for centuries.
This is so wrong... Read the comments of Chopin's pupils; he could play all his pieces, even although he was weak. He had one of the most fabulous techniques off all times! There is absolutely no indication of Chopin being unable to play one of his pieces... Nowhere, in all documents we have from his pupils...
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Great playing... but I'm glad to live in an era when the interpreter's "feelings" are toned down in favor of adherence to the score. Like now, for example, I was looking forward to enjoy Chopin's sonata, instead I get "Rachmaninoff's variations over a Chopin Sonata". It is exasperating to be distracted by the pianist's rubatissimo at the mercy of his idiosyncrasy. Only because it is Rachmaninoff, and he plays true to his times, I refrain from saying that it stinks.
Absolutely gorgeous! Sigh why can't modern pianists create such lush and sincere performances, I just find much of today's pianism lacking emotionally. Everything here is wonderful, the rubato, the phrasing, and the personality and art he brings to the piece. Thanks very much for sharing.
Cancrizans 2 months ago
@Cancrizans it's hard to compare anyone to Rachmaninoff, whether contemporary or historical.
oitotheworld23 1 week ago
it's like the our musical skillss are geeting worse, nowadays poepel might even like random toen generators////;p
why isnt there another beethoven, or mozart, or chopin?
think about it...
TheDardanius 3 months ago
@TheDardanius Because we've sold out to technology. Look at the insanity we are dealing with these days...scientists hoping to make computers "have human emotions"? To me that is the sign of an insane mind. Art has been thrown to the dogs in our society,but one thing true art never does is place ego and the artificial ahead of a fellow soul. Being alive is better than knowing things about being alive any day IMO.Our society is about knowing, not living. That is why we have no Mozarts these days.
Cancrizans 2 months ago 2
@Cancrizans true... but still there should be a potential mozart between one of us...and not another virtuoso who only can play some fast notes.
TheDardanius 2 months ago
@TheDardanius Please look at Nikolai Kapustin, he's a real piano prodigy and a great modern composer.
Ixezed 1 month ago
Simply amazing. It appears as though his hands are not even moving in this video.
mobrules29 4 months ago 4
What an intellect! Every note perfect; every phrase perfectly formed; every tone perfectly nuanced. Great! Great! Astonishing! Even Horowitz doesn't approach this, at least in his performance at the White House.
JoeTownley 5 months ago
It must've been great for Sergei to know that no other pianist alive was better than him, so he could just play without having to worry about being criticized, and just let his music flow from his fingers.
videogamerxx 5 months ago
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MozartK365 6 months ago
The tempo control is perfect
RumoAoSul 6 months ago
Rachmaninoff the god of piano plays the work of another god of piano.What do you want more ?
miliona1re 7 months ago
I wonder why modern pianism is so different from this one... but I don't wonder why it is obviously worst
newFranzFerencLiszt 7 months ago
This is definitely better than the Horowitz performance at the White House.
saagua1953 9 months ago
@saagua1953. funny enough I just listened to that and thought I must be tone deaf. That horowitz one sounds horrible to me.
Sandyhendry 5 months ago
such an absense of pedal and loudness, what a breath of fresh air
hartesmusic 11 months ago 3
Rachmaninov continua ad essere sottovalutato...pianista eccezionale e compositore strepitoso.
dardanus85 1 year ago 3
Marvellous, thank you for posting.
ursin1 1 year ago
Cannot say thank-you enough for posting..................Everyone enjoys trying to play classical piano, but the composers cannot be appreciated by listeners until they are played properly.
naymelful 1 year ago
It is amazing that many pianists of our time sound like they were just very good students of great Sergei Rachmaninoff.
Such profound playing. No need to impress anyone, simply natural flow of thoughts.
Amazing.
Thank you for posting.
galapz 1 year ago
beautiful!! tears of sadness and joy come all the time when I listen to it.. Thanks for posting it!
angelooooooos 1 year ago
2 of my favorite musicians!!!
xMeanBean 1 year ago
il più grande pianista di tutti i tempi!!!
mrobyy 1 year ago
@mrobyy Sempre la verita...Non c'e nessun altro come Rachmaninoff :-)
Bret6464 1 year ago
it's the mood the music get's you in...
merjemke 1 year ago
Not until I had listened to this recording did I realize that right the end coda, the main theme is being played. How many pianists have overlooked this?
otonanoC 1 year ago
Simply THE Greatest! Expressing from his heart and soul! I love you Serjosha!
solo874 1 year ago
The background hiss sound completely distracts one from the performance quality of one of the best classical pianists in history .
candycar23 1 year ago
Hi, I dont't speak english well, sorry for that, one question, i want to know where do you bought the disc of rachmaninoff, i want a disc of him playing, and how much money do you buy it. thanks
panter1993ja 1 year ago
Es algo que está dentro de la música y a lo que Rachmaninov a llegado a través de una profunda meditación.
ulitseful 1 year ago
CONTD- R accompanied Kreisler in concert and on records. Stravinsky said
Ah, but what's the use of pointing out facts to you, Ernesto the Ignorant Troll?
Perhaps you, a pinhead, would eject from your student orchestra a genius who is acclaimed by the greatest musicians around the world (in his time and ours) because he is beyond your understanding and makes you feel uncomfortable and angry. The rest of us, who have minds larger than a pin, know R gave the world beauty. You've given - what?
nextren 1 year ago
CONTD- that his conducting was among the greatest they had ever heard. The Met wanted him to conduct Tchaikovsky's "The Queen of Spades" (one of his specialties from the Bolshoi) in New York; he refused.
He left only a few recordings of his conducting. Search YT for Rachmaninoff conducts Symphony No. 3 in a minor.
He performed hundreds of concerts with top orchestras. Gustav Mahler himself conducted the premiere of R's 3rd Piano Concerto, with R at the keyboard.-CONTD
nextren 1 year ago
Estas notas te embuelven en un manto,suave y delicado, que te hacen prisionero y esclavo de tan sublimes sonidos celestiales que te hacen pensar que estas en el paraiso.
angelsuntaxi 1 year ago
there are part that is too jazzy,
Chopin is the really a great composer.
benjosephcuyacot 1 year ago
That's my great-grandmother on the right, just near the cardboard Steinway!
she was a real Rachmaninov fan, right from the start. Saw him at the Battersea Hippodrome, with Rimsky-Korsakov.
We still have the bandana and promotional flyer at home. said he was a nice, shy sort of man. Nothing special. But BOY what a pianist. Such class. Quite Romantic. He made it big.
Sorry for boring you.
andreaprodan 1 year ago 16
@andreaprodan Boring us? Au contraire, cher!
karennorwegian 3 weeks ago
@andreaprodan Sorry, I meant 'Chere!'
karennorwegian 3 weeks ago
@karennorwegian
Right first time round, dearie.... it's a CHER!
andreaprodan 1 day ago
it's really sad we can't hear recording from chopin or liszt
rvn10rvn17 1 year ago 13
I hope people realize how lucky we all are to have recordings by one of the true greats.
juanm429 1 year ago
Imagine sitting in that room...
chordophone 1 year ago 2
This is absurdly good.
jeremyajani 1 year ago 2
interesting the delicate approach here in the first movement. specially the beginning. Rachmaninoff was also an interesting interpret not only interesting composer.... he is one of the few composer who knew how to play a piano. Chopin Schumann Liszt are the well known other ones.... they did influence the pianists of the 19th and 20th century and also the piano production and evolution.
uhartchristian 2 years ago
Vive Malsuzynsky
aardvaark069 2 years ago
interesting...
bigluca66 2 years ago
For devotees of great romantic piano playing from the 20th century this legendary recording cannot fail to enthral. For me the first and second movements are ideally dramatised, however he takes the funeral march too quickly therefore killing its solemnity not to mention his tampering with the score. The final mvt is wonderfully eerie and spooky.
meredith21846 2 years ago 2
He might have taken the funeral march too quickly because of time constraints; Godowsky was known to do this a lot and change his style of playing for the sake of primitive recording techniques.
ReturnOfTheStienway 1 year ago
it is wonderful just to have this. i'm grateful.
masonhamlin100 2 years ago
great performance , and composition
graysight 2 years ago
i love calling rachmaninov or rubinstein (either) the best pianist of all time and then watching all the "liszters" getting upset over it and wasting there time with pages of reasons... even if i aggree. its just so much fun.
Classicmozayful 2 years ago
When you get to the level that Rachmaninoff, Liszt, Chopin, Rubinstein (Anton and Artur), Horowitz, Gould (although I can't stand his playing), Gilels, Pologerich, Kempff (Wilhelm and Freddy), Richter, Van Cliburn... people on that level it all becomes personal preference.
For me, if I was absolutely pressed into chosing a favorite, probably it would be Richter. Though, Absolutely I love everyone I named, and many more.
EuphoricDan 2 years ago 3
yes you named all the genius
tommy9882 2 years ago
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i'm desperate .i' looking for a piece by chopin but i do not know how it is called it starts by the following: mi la si do re mi fa si do re la sol fa mi re mi.please help me if you can.thank you
lilalou09 2 years ago
Mmmmh instead of arguing why not simply enjoy the music.
Wallach525 2 years ago 5
Una sonata preciosa, Chopin siempre sera el mejor compositor y pianista de la historia.
fernanfernanfernana 2 years ago 3
pues no se si pianista pues no tenemos el placer de escucharlo tocar en ninguna grabación por la época en la que vivió pero claro que era un excelente compositor para el piano, tomemos en cuenta que dedicó toda su vida como compositor al piano, quién más hizo esto? además de que tenía un toque! uff! que bellas obras tiene =)
Chopinco 2 years ago
he his one of my favourite compositor and performer...
He is a true genious, one of the most brillant in music
Brackhmmarr 2 years ago 29
eto ochen jorosho!
manuelegirolamo 2 years ago
One of the best performances of this work.
junglejim66 2 years ago 22
In my top 1 list! I haven't found a pace to match this power, speed, grace, agility for especially this first movement. Mind you I haven't looked hard, but I trust Rachmaninov very much. He has a climax builder instinct equivalent to that of Gorowitz. In my opinion, I deem these two at the top of the "Climaxbuilding Ability" list.
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costellopianist 2 years ago
how i know that ??
dear ernesto ... god has no limits .. and maybe u willl not agree with me for understanding god the same as i understand him regarding to my religion ...
becuase god have no place nor time ... try not to be limited of understanding god ... and please if u wanna reply try through a fact not just talking randomly like most poeple do
costellopianist 2 years ago
OK, costellopianist. I will try to give a fact:
"There is no limit to the imagination of people who put no limits in what their god can do"
Based on this fact, I now understand why you ask your god to bless Rachmaninoff's concert. But how you know he will actually do it? Or you need an act of faith for that?
Ernesto7608 2 years ago
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ur statement ,"There is no limit to the imagination of people who put no limits in what their god can do" , which it's not a fact w.r.t me but just an opinion ,, and mine for u too the same ... but i tell u in anthology which am studying belives that human;s mind have no limits and moreover it CAN reach god which is "infinity" but it immpossible regarding the abilities ... hence , human's mind have no limits....
costellopianist 2 years ago
I am sorry but I stand by my statement: your imagination doesn't need to have limits because it is all imaginary, and so you can imagine your god. But your mind must have limits, although we don't know them exactly.
About the people you mention, I respect them too. I just don't see what a blessing will do for them, since they already lived their life. Or you think blessings can go back in time?
Ernesto7608 2 years ago
if u belive that when a person dies his works dies also ... sometimes u must treat poeple not like animals .. not to use them , the idea of using a scientist or musician for developoing our world and then when he dies u forget him ,,, u must love him and "bless" his works .. becuasse I CAN SEE GOD in him
costellopianist 2 years ago
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and for blessing , i just ask god to bless everything mankind did in history like ,beethoven liszt, einstein ... and so many great poeple .. just asking for blessing them .. translation: respecting them :)
costellopianist 2 years ago
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Before you guys get ahead of yourselves, you are using god with a small 'g' which seems like it means like he has another superior that starts with a capital 'g', like this: God. Jehovah God. Yaweh!
SCHneiDen777 2 years ago
Schneiden, I don't think the small or capital 'g' makes any difference. It is all the product of your imagination anyway. In your particular case, Jehovah was invented some 4000? years ago, so it doesn't make a difference after all these years to write it with small or capital 'g', or as some Jews do, as g-d ! But here we should care about music instead...
Ernesto7608 2 years ago
yes religion always hits someones nerve
but music well ease the tense individuals
FourtySven 2 years ago
Right. God is simply a word made by man. The word represents a higher authority no matter how the word is spelled or capitalized. Here the word means of course a noteworthy representative.. Rach was one of the greatest pianists who ever lived. A magnificent performance of one of the monuments of piano literature.
junglejim66 2 years ago
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Yes, Rach was one of the several dozen greatest pianist who reached such fame. A mediocre performance of one of the monuments of piano composition.
Ernesto7608 2 years ago
This is an excellent performance. Different, perhaps.
junglejim66 2 years ago
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costellopianist 2 years ago
god bless the piano concert no.3 rachmaninoff
costellopianist 2 years ago
Can you imagine a god not having anything better to do but going around blessing concerts?
And if so, he would not do that in this page dedicated to a Chopin sonata.
Ernesto7608 2 years ago
dear ernesto god is not a person or someone who have one mind .... i dont care wat ur idea bout idea or if u r an ethist ....
but god concentrate on the smalest part in the world not just the concerts ...
costellopianist 2 years ago
costello, It is not me who asked this "not a person or someone who have one mind... etc" to bless a piano concerto.
Since I found this idea ridiculous, I just followed the game to see where you were heading towards...
And now you come up with "god concentrate on the samalest part..." How you know that ??
Ernesto7608 2 years ago
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how i know that ??
dear ernesto ... god has no limits .. and maybe u willl not agree with me for understanding god the same as i understand him regarding to my religion ...
becuase god have no place nor time ... try not to be limited of understanding god ... and please if u wanna reply try through a fact not just talking randomly like most poeple do
costellopianist 2 years ago
He was one of the finest pianists of his day and nobody can change this fact!!!
niitac 2 years ago
Nobody can change the fact that you think this way, and nobody should. What would be the purpose?
Ernesto7608 2 years ago
It will always surprise me how such inflamed arguments arise about insignificant things of life. Can we not listen objectively, without criticism, without saying: this is what's best or worse, and most importantly, without teraing each other apart?
f33rn44nd00 2 years ago 2
It always surprises me the contradiction in those taking a high stand to criticize others for criticizing, especially when they remark that the other's opinions are over insignificant issues... I suspect that this comes from a feeling that their own opinions are insignificant.
Ernesto7608 2 years ago
Un genio interpretando a otro genio!!!
A genius playing another genius!!!
manuelzulu43 2 years ago
it's obvious that all these negative comments come from the ranks of players far more skilled than Mr. Rachmaninoff, otherwise why would someone bother to speak judgments of others when they themselves have no knowledge how to even approach artistry or mastery at this level... I'm sure they've all posted links to their own videos right? HA!
jedijenkeez45 2 years ago 4
HA! Amazing how many silly posts appear here predicating this false concept that one has to be 'better' than the object of criticism.
It's a pleasure to see how many use their personal freedom judging, criticizing to their heart's content whatever is put out here for public consumption.
Ernesto7608 2 years ago
Then explain the basis of your deep understanding of music in performance... Music is a language all its own and how does one come to learn that language?? Great musicians and composers speak in that language and how do we approach their methods or understanding without knowing the language? That's all I mean... Sure i might hear interpretations of pieces that i like better, but I won't be the fool to insult geniuses when I can't approach their artistry.
jedijenkeez45 2 years ago
The language of music is based on the rules of melody and harmony that make sound pleasant to the ear (definition of 'music'). It has evolved over the last centuries and we each learn to appreciate this language by listening to it. And yes, it would be foolish for you to insult geniuses if you don't understand their art. But if you understand music, you have a perfect right to criticize musicians, geniuses or not. Especially in your opinion of their playing, not their composing.
Ernesto7608 2 years ago
Ok but the fact remains that your criticism would hold more water if you in turn understand his interpretation and how to interpret the music better, but how can you if you don't have any knowledge of how to play the instrument... Myself I am in the process of learning piano and beginning to understand the complexities of th instrument.... you're splitting hairs... it's like saying Van Gogh should used a different shade of red! hahaha!
jedijenkeez45 2 years ago
The fact is, jedijenkee, that I have been playing the piano for decades, including this nice sonata. But you don't need to be a player to understand this music. If you are just learning to play, I suggest that you form your concept of this music from serious performers who don't improvise but respect the indications of the composer. There are many good performances available here on youtube.
Ernesto7608 2 years ago
So you can play this piece more accurately than Mr Rachmaninoff.... obviously if you can play it, then you prefer your own interpretation, so post it... show me how this is supposed to sound! that is my whole point!
jedijenkeez45 2 years ago
So your whole point is to hear how I play this sonata? Sorry, jedijenkee, but your desire to hear it is no point for me to post it.
Stop wasting your time, and look up the many excellent interpretations of this work on youtube.
Ernesto7608 2 years ago
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what a terrible performance!
planetalalala 2 years ago
How come the most intense arguments arise in classical music commentaries? Rachmoninov<3!!
jkiddo223 2 years ago
according to me this is the best version of second chopin's sonata!
MemyH567 2 years ago
here's what's really depressing--we have here one of the supreme artists of the piano playing one of the major masterpieces of the piano repertoire in his uniquely affecting way, and I bothered to read the petty and vulgar squabbling in the comments section! Dear Mr. Rachmaninoff, thank you so much for so many fine recordings which have touched and inspired me, and remind us all of what is noble, beautiful, intelligent and heartfelt.
pianoblake 2 years ago 9
ignorer..
hortenIX 2 years ago
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Don't get depressed... be happy that he touches, inspires, reminds you of noble, beautiful, intelligent, heartfelt with his Chopin.
For me, I find many others who inspire, touch, remind much more than Rachmaninoff. Why should that depress you?
A good composer does not necessarily imply a good performer.
Ernesto7608 2 years ago
"A good composer does not necessarily imply a good performer."
I agree.
guidohizon 2 years ago
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chester0320 3 years ago 9
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she was so hot....
Laphonse 3 years ago
Yeah, yeah. But what about the performance here?
aardvaark069 3 years ago
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all you arguing people really need to think about what is important. none of it really matters. at all. the persistent ones must have a hard time in life.
mikeee32 3 years ago
if none of it really matters at all, why you take the trouble to post here?
Ernesto7608 3 years ago
omfg. ernesto will you please shut the hell up? it's youtube. Your opinion doesn't matter here. QQ.
xxh3llfir3xx 2 years ago
Still here complaining Ernesto?
I apologize to the others who have read the comments and viewed this argument; Rachmaninoff and Chopin go together like bread and butter, and this performance is for the ages.
alvinkuo777 3 years ago 4
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It's good that you apologize, alvinkuo, but don't worry. I doubt that many take your opinion seriously. Like this bread and butter togetherness. You listen with your stomach? And yes, this performance is of old ages. Today's serious pianists don't let themselves be dominated by whimsical sentimentalism and strange moods. There are too many excellent performances they can be compared against. Good for us the public!
Ernesto7608 3 years ago
"serious pianists don't let themselves be dominated by whimsical sentimentalism and strange moods"
Well, that would eliminate Chopin, then. And all of his compositions.
Back to your metronome, small mind. Tick, tock, tick, tock...ah yes, very nice...give yourself a B+.
nextren 1 year ago
@nextren
So you think Chopin was dominated by whimsical sentimentalism? Why then his compositions are free of it, while many of their performers are so full of it, like Rachmaninoff is here? Your idol definitely plays SCHMALTZ here. Not all his fault, this was typical of Chopin playing in his days.
I'm not criticizing Rachmaninoff as a person. I'm judging this particular recording. You don't have to be so sensitive and lash out over some matter-of-fact.
Ernesto7608 1 year ago
@Ernesto7608 alright, let's see what Chopin playing is these days....... Pollini, a complete robot.
Don't you think that there was a reason why Chopin wrote it? Was it because he wanted performer to adhere completely to the score? What use is that - to anyone?
Rachmaninov was one of the greatest, with Paderweski, Sofronitsky, etc. What you see as "whimsical sentimentalism" is actually quite rational. It is the communication of the meaning behind Chopin's score - in Rachmaninov's terms.
themindandmusic 1 year ago
@themindandmusic
I'm sad for so little musical mind in your post. How could "a complete robot" become a winner of Warsaw's Chopin competition and then follow such a brilliant career as pianist?
I agree that Rachmaninoff was a great composer. But as a pianist, he shows here poor mediocrity. His sentimentalism was probably rational, a product of his times.
A score is never all inclusive, but if Chopin wrote pp, don't you think he wanted pp and not ff? Otherwise it would not be written.
Ernesto7608 1 year ago
@Ernesto7608 You're missing the big picture. Just like no one cares if he makes a wrong note. He can do whatever he wants. If it sounds good, it is good.
Therachh3 1 year ago
@Therachh3
You are missing the big picture. If it sounds good to you, it might not sound good to others. Of course he can do whatever he wants now, he is out of our reach, RIP
Ernesto7608 1 year ago
@Ernesto7608 "little musical mind" could aplty describe Pollini when you hear him express nothing but notes from a page. Can you consider that Chopin cared more for the emotion expressed in this piece (I assume in your example you are refferin to 3rd movement), rather than particular dynamic markings which express it to no one except whoever's going to perform it?
themindandmusic 1 year ago
@themindandmusic I hate having to contradict you. But dynamic markings are written for the performer to pass on to the listener.
I just compared the music on this page with the performance of this piece by Emanuel Ax (one of my favorites). His version is at least as expressive as Rach's one, but without MANNERISMS, MOODS that sound like schmaltz. Of course your idol played according to the style of his days. But that old style was corrupt. I rate Ax's playing at least 10 times better.
Ernesto7608 1 year ago
@Ernesto7608 I hate having to contradict you, but dynamic markings don't leave much for the listener..... again, the score can't play itself or express it's own ideas, and if one were to adhere only to the markings on the score, they would play like a robot. In itself it's incomplete, why do you think it takes two artists - a composer and a performer - in order for it to be MUSIC.
themindandmusic 1 year ago
@themindandmusic
A score is never "complete", but it gives individuality to a piece of music. Whatever is written in the score should be respected as it reflects the will of the composer. A serious performer will not challenge the score and modify it at his whim because he likes it more in a different way. Any performer is free to compose his/her own music. Rachm. did this, but he failed to respect the wishes of Chopin in his performances, no matter how trivial you think dynamic markings are.
Ernesto7608 1 year ago
@Ernesto7608 The score gives indiduality to a piece, but apparently the performer does not. Why not have a computer play this, as they do on those composition computer programs? It's feasible to bring everybody to Carnegie Hall, wire up a computer to an amplifier, put the score of this sonata into the computer and let it read everything exactly. Why does a human being have to play the music? Also listen to how he sings in his playing......
themindandmusic 1 year ago
@Ernesto7608 your a fag
Gargantupimp 1 year ago
@Ernesto7608 Emanuel ax sucks, not at all interesting. half jewish
Gargantupimp 1 year ago
@Ernesto7608 If Rachmaninoff is a mediocre pianist as you imply...
Well then I am head of a gang from outer space that loves Rachmaninoff and will capture all of his his critics. If they can´t convince us - We will cook them alive and eat them.
maxhansendk 1 year ago
@maxhansendk You haven't met Obionekenobi on your travels, by any chance?
charade97 1 year ago
@maxhansendk haha... In my experience one needs to be at least 20 before they really "get" Rachmaninoff... I'm definitely on your side, though! :)
jameslill 1 year ago
@jameslill ok, one doesnt not need to "be at least 20 before the really "get Rachmaninoff." im 15 and i appreciate him more than most. He is my god. Don't make assumptions of age. It has nothing to do with age, but with understanding of music.
damoosie123 1 year ago 4
@damoosie123
Agreed.
I am but 13 and i appreciate to a great degree as well.
THEAkariTsuya 1 year ago
@damoosie123 Then, my good sir, you have revealed the gaping hole in "my experience"! Please trust that there was nothing ageist about my remark :)
jameslill 1 year ago
alvinkuo was Not worrying about you(a little insight into the self absorbed nano-existence of our Ernie folks).
Excuse me for you not being svelt of mind enough to understand that I definately do not listens with my eyes?WTF??
I wont even go into the other dynamics behind it as you will obviously never understand that.Far beyond your capabilities old son.However thought I would point it out so everyone other than you can have a chortle at your expsense.
No thanks required..
DjNgatiDread 3 years ago
Dread, not only are you not svelte of mind but even less svelte of language. Ha, you speak (write) a dialect from Micronesia?
If you don't listen with your eyes, what are you ranting about not being able to listen? Why are you bothered by what people write here? While you read you cannont listen? A single-task creature, like the Comodore 64? A piece of museum... I point it out so you can dust off yourself for your exhibition.
Ernesto7608 3 years ago
this is great. im so glad this is up. he was praised for this rendition
mikeee32 3 years ago
F#@k you all for fighting while I a trying to listen.Ever heard this
"What you are thumders so loudly I can't hear what your saying"?
Damn sheeple piss off and take your wailing and gnashing elsewheres.
Ooh if ignorance were painful...
DjNgatiDread 3 years ago
It sure seems to you.
ChrisWatch 3 years ago
Since comments here bother so much your listnening experience, DjNgatiDread (!), you must then listen with your eyes. What you use your ears for? I see, they are just two vents for the empty craneal cavity of yours.
Ernesto7608 3 years ago
lol
mowgie 3 years ago
darnit, sorry was replying to someone else with the "lol", not a standalone comment.
mowgie 3 years ago
after listening to horowitz version it seems like rachmaninov likes the third movement fast and the first slow( i'm not saying this is bad so don't start attacking me!)
MillyProductions 3 years ago
Well Ernesto, not being a pianist, you don't understand the intricacies and voices brought out by the masters. Frankly with your tastes, I will be surprised if you are in a professional orchestra.
alvinkuo777 3 years ago
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Don't worry about me, alvinkuo, but if we talk about professional orchestras, they would throw out a Rachmaninoff like this one in a millisecond. Such temperamental, moody person could never participate in an ensamble with others, because he would immediately take off in 'intricacies and voices'in opposite directions from the rest.
Ernesto7608 3 years ago
Professional orchestras throw out a Rachmaninoff...
How the heck do you know what professional orchestras do, especially since orchestras like the New York Philharmoic and Philadelphia Philarhomic have played with him? The bullshit stops here; if today's orchestras can play with Argerich, Lang Lang, and Pletnev, they can certainly handle a Rachmaninoff.
You can keep on arguing in the comments section. Just remember your opinion really counts as nothing in the musical world.
alvinkuo777 3 years ago
The bullshit stops here, alvinkuo? Why you keep posting then?
You remember what you posted? It was about playing IN a professional orchestra, not WITH a professional orchestra. I'm not sure if Rachm. ever played IN an orchestra, I doubt that he would have lasted. Any other problems you have with my opinion?
Ernesto7608 3 years ago
You guys look like kids, hehehehe. No offense.
Cleroth 3 years ago
Yes, Cleroth, we classical music lovers never lose the child in our hearts...
But how you know how someone looks from what he writes?
Ernesto7608 3 years ago
look
3 have the appearance or give the impression of being.
Cleroth 3 years ago
Why are you talking about soloists playing in an orchestra?
demosj 3 years ago
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If you are asking alvinkuo, demosj,
that talk about soloists and orchestras may be an interference effect from his overloaded neurons trying to understand the intricacies and voices brought out by the masters. I hope he does not lose his hearing.
Ernesto7608 3 years ago
Overloaded neurons from listening to music? HA! You sir, sound like Mike Caffey.
Great vid BTW.
mickyj300x 3 years ago
The difference is that Mike Caffey's paid to do it.
RabidCh 3 years ago 2
Some truth in it. Rachmaninov never played with certain conductors because Rachmaninov needed to get his way. But there were many great conductors who'd happily follow Rachmaninov's lead.
CoolWJL 3 years ago
Rachmaninoff was the chief conductor and music director of the Bolshoi Theatre.
The Boston Symphony Orchestra's board offered him the conductorship twice (he turned them down - the orchestra was not up to his standards).
He frequently conducted the Moscow Symphony Orchestra at home and on tour. In America he conducted the Philadelphia Orchestra (and dedicated his Third Symphony and Symphonic Dances to its regular conductor Ormandy).
The greatest musicians of his day were unanimous-CONTD
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nextren 1 year ago
Just to be on the safe side and not get sent to hell:
I love Chopin's compositions. They're dandy.
I love Rachmaninov's compositions. They're epic.
I love old movies. As long as they *are* good.
TonisAndreasHallaste 3 years ago
I wanna argue too!
I agree with Ernesto7608 that modern cinema is underappreciated. Nostalgia to quality is like hunger to taste... or something.
Hard to say about music, though. Paganini was a pioneer, but for contemporaries, like Vengerov, those techniques are not something as amazing anymore. So, to be amazing, you have to be a fuckin' 'ell.
It's not off-topic - Chopin was a pioneer, but how exactly did his playing sound?
I'll be a coward and avoid with a: "We'll never know anyway."
TonisAndreasHallaste 3 years ago
are there any videos of rachmaninov playing ballad in g minor?
MillyProductions 3 years ago
piano elias: you are not right either in your opinion that music has no clear cut way to define it. But if you really want to express pointless wishy-washy overgeneralizations, you should take them off this comments page.
Ernesto7608 3 years ago
well i think for a live recording its 100% perfect
q8pianist 3 years ago 2
If that's so, I know of many recordings that are 120% perfect.
Ernesto7608 3 years ago
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Nice. But Pollini is far better, not only in a technical way. Idil Biret as well.
haioforler 3 years ago
Rachmaninoff was probably the last great classical composer ever.
MI6MI5 3 years ago 3
The "last great classical composer ever" will not be defined until the end of times. And then, it won't matter anyway.
Ernesto7608 3 years ago
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Classical music is dead.
MI6MI5 3 years ago
How does music "die"? When it stops breathing, or when its beat rate goes down to zero?
Ernesto7608 3 years ago 8
like latin. Look at the new generation. Very few would say "I listen to classical music" I mean have we seen a Mozart for the last 50 years? I personally like classical music much more than songs these days. Its much more sophisticated and difficult to learn than modern music.
MI6MI5 3 years ago
But Latin, MI6MI5, does not serve any practical purpose anymore. Classical music is very relevant today (just see all the discussions on youtube). It is like classical physics, Newton's laws, that all children learn in school today... even as Newton has been gone for centuries.
Ernesto7608 3 years ago
Says the ignorant.
skylover28 3 years ago
says the twat
MI6MI5 3 years ago
says the ignorant twat
salvadorr88 3 years ago
Rachmaninoff is a big pianist..classic music for ever!!
Allevithebest 3 years ago
no doubt rachmaninoff was one of a few composers who can REALLY play...and yes chopin wasn't able to play all his own pieces ;)
Ok need to say that liszt deserves to be one of these few, too. (Bach 2)
ultimativePwnage 3 years ago
where did you get such retareded information?
KearneyPiano 3 years ago
just telling how it is...chopin was phisically weak when he was at mallorca.
he had a few illneses. just an example...
ultimativePwnage 3 years ago
This is so wrong... Read the comments of Chopin's pupils; he could play all his pieces, even although he was weak. He had one of the most fabulous techniques off all times! There is absolutely no indication of Chopin being unable to play one of his pieces... Nowhere, in all documents we have from his pupils...
godelike 3 years ago
So do I
skimask7 3 years ago
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Great playing... but I'm glad to live in an era when the interpreter's "feelings" are toned down in favor of adherence to the score. Like now, for example, I was looking forward to enjoy Chopin's sonata, instead I get "Rachmaninoff's variations over a Chopin Sonata". It is exasperating to be distracted by the pianist's rubatissimo at the mercy of his idiosyncrasy. Only because it is Rachmaninoff, and he plays true to his times, I refrain from saying that it stinks.
Ernesto7608 3 years ago
Dude rach was known for his rubato. Its just what he did to feel the music.
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