Lerin

[07irigoyenr]

es chulisimo y a mas de un lerinés herrante, le ha emocionado, muy buen montaje, con mucho ingenio, la musica es la que no me gusta mucho, pero lo demas, enhorabuena

[07irigoyenr]

es chulisimo y a mas de un lerinés herrante, le ha emocionado

[makedonijaljubovmoja]

LERIN SE NAOGJA VO OBLASTA PAMLUNJA /PAMPLONIA VO SPANIJA 

[makedonijaljubovmoja]

OVA E VIDEO ZA MESTOTO LERIN VO SPANIJA, A NE E NASHIOT LERIN VO EGEJSKA MAKEDONIJA ! TUKU PISUVAME KOMENTARI KADE STO NE E MESTO !

[keeliey1]

My first name is Lerin, after this magical place also!

[lezleesvidz]

I named my daughter Lerin after this beautiful place.

[JASONTACHOS]

You can try ....to take Florina . But as a greek city ....we will defend it with our souls . It was greek , it is greek and it will remain greek . Nothing more to say . Please do not reply . I will not answer .

[orthodox33]

@JASONTACHOS my friend you are Talking about Gk Lerins Lt Florina in Macedonia the Northern State of Greece the above Village is in France with the same name Like Florida in America the name comes from the latin Flora the Greek Chloria which means Green fertile Pastures , Florina was raped by Modern Greek Beaurcrates and as the legal custodians of Northern Greece Have Claim to that area Athenians or Pontians have no legal rights over Macedonia Macedonians are Helens NOT GREEK

[ZaMakedonija]

My city, Lerin.

My heart burns for you.

One day you will be united!

[tzakos1982]

the city is lerin in spain you former jugoslav piece of shit..and there is no lerin in Greece...its florina since the ancient times you delude bulgarian in denial....

[forevermkd]

There are two Lerins in this planet, one is Spanish and one Macedonian!

[tzakos1982]

show us a global map with a city named lerin in greece...ha,ha,ha,ha!!!there is no SUCH THING!!THERE IS ONLY FLORINA WHICH IS IN MACEDONIA WHICH IS IN GREECE!!!WHICH IT MEANS THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR FORMER JUGOSLAV SHITHOLE....

[forevermkd]

Macedonia is region in the Balkan penunsila which was divided in 1913. Greece made ethnic cleaning in Aegean Macedonia,so I am from Salonika but there now live some Christians who came from Tureky in 1920s.

Turkish-Christians have nothing to do with Lerin, Macedonia for the Macedonians!

[tzakos1982]

macedonia is a region in balcan..it was split to 3 parts between Greece,Serbia and Bulgaria!!IT WASNT A DEVIDED COUNTRY!!!!no ethnic cleaning EVER HAPPENED CAUSE IT IS NOWHERE WRITTEN!!!THE CHRISTIANS THAT CAME FROM TURKEY WERE GREEKS AND THEY RIGHTFULLY LIVE IN THE REGION OF MACEDONIA WITH THE "LOCAL" GREEK MACEDONIANS!!MACEDONIA ALREADY BELONGS TO THE MACEDONIANS SINCE 1913!!!GIVE US BACK PELAGONIA YOU FUCKING SLAVS TO UNITE MACEDONIA BY ALL.....

[forevermkd]

lol, you are very uneducated, sorry.

There was an ethnic claning in Aegean Macedonia so many ethnic Macedonians like my family were replaced with Christians (not only Greeks) from Turkey.

See at the old maps and you will see that Greeks were always minority in Ethnic Macedonia.....

watch?v=M9x3YY2KGD0

[tzakos1982]

lol 3 times for you!!!how can you talk about minority..when you as a magority are not refered ANYWHERE BEFORE 1944!!!!!AND BIG WORDS MAKE BIG MEN!!GIVE ME A LINK OF A RELIABLE SOUECE SPEAKING ABOUT THIS :GENOCIDE"...CAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW ONLY THE TRAITORS LEFT GREECE...PROBABLY YOUR FAMILY WERE TRAITORS.....

[forevermkd]

You can say whatever you want but you can't change the past. In 1903 in Ethnic Macedonia lived only 200 000 Greeks.

Then in 1913 started a genocide and assimilation to the local people, some Macedonians were exchanged and some were assimilated.Greek gov was changeing their names and subnames to Greek ones. (So if someone was Spiro, the would be renamed in Spyrocharo, or if someone was Vasoski - Vaskopolus)

With the growing of the wrold ppl those 638 000 ppl who came now are over 1 200 000.

[tzakos1982]

even if they were only 200.000 GREEKS!!TELL ME SMART GUY!!DO YOU HAVE ANY OFFICIAL DOCUMENT OF THAT PERIOD WHICH WAS MENTIONING "MACEDONIANS"!!!!!NO!!!THE PEOPLE LIVED THERE WERE TURKS,SERBS,BULGARIANS,ALBANIA­NS,ROMA,JEWS!!!!!!BUT SUCH THING AS YOU CLAIM TO BE NO!!!!!WHAT THE FUCK!!!!YOU WERE GHOSTS BACK THEN!!!!!!!!??????

[forevermkd]

hah, of course that I have! In the Turkish census is written that in Ethnic Macedonia in 1903, live over 1 500 000 Slavic Macedonians.

Also in many old maps is clearly written MACEDONIANS....

watch?v=M9x3YY2KGD0

[tzakos1982]

my brainwashed friend...such thing as ethic macedonians is NOT MENTIONES NOWHERE PRIOR OF 1944!!!!EVEN IF GOD WAS WITH YOU,YOU COULDNT PROVE IT!!!!!NOR IN THE PAST WAS A COUNTRY NAMED MACEDONIA!!!ALL THESE ARE NATIONALIST TRICKS OF COMMUNISM AND JUGOSLAVIA!!YOU ARE JUST A CONFLICT EXPERIMENT BETWEEN SERBIA AND BULGARIA...NOTHING MORE....

[forevermkd]

The Macedonians also are a nation and the place which is theirs is called Macedonia.

-Pulevski in 1875.

Many years before 1944, now do you see that they manipulate with you?

[tzakos1982]

Ottoman census of Hilmi Pasha (1904)

Region

Greeks Bulgarians

1. Vilayet of Salonica

373,227 207,317

2. Vilayet of Monastir

261,283 178,412

3. Sanjak of Skopje

(part of the Vilayet of Kosovo)

13,452 172,735

[tzakos1982]

Ottoman census of Hilmi Pasha for the region of Macedonia (1906)

Muslims (Turks and Albanians)423,000 (41.71%)

Greeks259,000 (27.30%)

Bulgarians178,000 (18.81%)

Serbs13,150 (1.39%)

Others73,000 (7.72%)

[tzakos1982]

get over it...by repeating like a parrot the same phrase like "i am macedonian,i am macedonian,i am macedonian" will not transform you to MACEDONIAN!!YOU ARE JUGOISLAV!!GET OVER ITI!!!NO LANGUAGE,NO NATION,NO HEROES,NO RELIGION,NO NOTHING!!!!AS WE GREEK MACEDONIANS LIVE WE WILL NEVER LET YOU STEAL OUR NAME!!!

[forevermkd]

100 Years ago this 200 000 people didn't knew what Macedonia is. You started your propaganda 30-40 years ago.

[tzakos1982]

and because 1 guy said taht what it means that you are MACEDONIANS!!!???????BEFORE 100 YEARS YOU DIDNT EXIST!!!you are bulgarians of macedonia speaking a dialect mixed with serbian letters!!!!nothing more!!!you are JUGOSLAVS!!!NOT MACEDONIANS!!!!AND YOU LIVE WITH NATIONALISM!!!IN THE END YOU WILL LOSE....

[forevermkd]

But not only 1 guy, I have 1 000 000 citats.

Ok before 100 years we didn't exist and now we came from Mars here and started propaganda against you! :D

Hah stupid Greeks! :)

[tzakos1982]

look idiot before startg breaking my balls...just google "macedonia evidence"...read carefully and come back with your ILLUSIONS.....YOUARE JUST A FAILURE EXPERIMENT OF TITO COMMUNISM AND JUGOSLAVIA!!!MACEDONIAN NATION NEVER EXISTED AND WILL NEVER EXIST!!!

[forevermkd]

"MACEDONIAN NATION NEVER EXISTED"

-tzakos1982 in 2010

"The Macedonians also are a nation and the place which is theirs is called Macedonia"

-Georgi Pulevski in 1875.

[tzakos1982]

STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION (G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)

The Kremlin, 7 June 1946

Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown

himself more flexible than you ...That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population

is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Belarus either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic."

What's that??? no "Makedonski" consciousness before communist propaganda?

[tzakos1982]

tzakos1982 in 2010 says

in 1880, Pulevski published Slavjano-naseljenski makedonska slognica rečovska ('Grammar of the language of the Macedonian Slavic population'), a work that is today known as the first attempt at a grammar of Macedonian. In it, Pulevski systematically contrasted his language, which he called našinski ("our language") or slavjano-makedonski ("Slavo-Macedonian") with both SERBIAN AND BULGARIAN!!!!!!HA,HA,HA,HA!!NI­CE LANGUAGE IN THE MIXER!!!.

[tzakos1982]

and please do us a favour...CHOOSE FOR ONE TIME!!YOU ARE SLAVS OF MACEDONIA OR DESCEDANTS OF ANCIENT MACEDONIA!!!CAUSE IF YOU ARE SLAVS BOTH CANT HAPPEN!!!!!YOUR MR PULEVSKI THOUGHT YOU ARE SLAVS!!AND THE LANGUAGE HE PROPOSED WAS BASED ON SERBIAN AND BULGARIAN!!YOU ARE JUST THE SLAV RESERVES OF THE BALCAN....

[tzakos1982]

In FYROM there is full schizophrenia, with the Institute of National History to support the ancient "makedoniki" origin and the Academy of Skopje to support the origin of the Slavic people.THESE SLAVS ARE DESPERATE AND CRAZY!!

[tzakos1982]

The first two writers to publish books in a language

based on Macedonian dialects were HadZi Joakim

KrEovski (d. 1820), who used a language based on the

Kratovo-Kriva Palanka dialects of northeastern Macedonia,

and his somewhat younger contemporary HadZi

Kiril PejEinovik (c.. 1770-1845), who wrote in the

Tetovo dialect, with fewer Church Slavonicisms than

Joakim (Lunt 1953:336)'Both these writers called

their language B U L G A R I A N!!!HA,HA,HA!!

[tzakos1982]

1892, Pulevski completed the first Slavjanomakedonska opšta istorija (General History of the Macedonian Slavs), a large manuscript with over 1700 pages. In his last work: Jazitshnica, soderzsayushtaja starobolgarski ezik, uredena em izpravlena da se uchat bolgarski i makedonski sinove i kerki"; ('Grammar, containing OLD BULGARIAN language, arranged and corrected to be taught Bulgarian and Macedonian sons and daughters'), he considered THE MACEDONIAN DIALECTS AS PART OF THE BULGARIAN LANGUAGE!!

[forevermkd]

He was always saying that he is neighter Serb nor Bulgar but pure Maccedonian like Aleksandar and Filip.

Read the Slavjanomakedonska opšta istorija and you will see that.

[tzakos1982]

and if tomorrow i will say that i am chinese and my language is based on japan and korea..THAT WILL MAKE ME CHINESE??????NICE LOGIC....

[forevermkd]

Of course not, but if your grandad and his grandad were chinese then you are chinese too.

And here your grandad didn't know what is Macedonia and now you want to be Macedonian, it does not goes just like that. :)

[tzakos1982]

how can i be chinese when my parents werent???it is the same thing!!!YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE MACEDONIAN LIKE PULEVSKI..BUT YOUR LANGUAGE IS SERBIAN AND BULGARIAN..BECAUSE YOU LIVED IN A PLACE IT DOESNT MEAN THAT YOU TAKE ETHNICITY BY THE PLACE...AND BY THE WAY I AM MACEDONIAN..GREEK MACEDONIAN...OK JUGOSLAV??

[forevermkd]

My grandad was Macedonian as you said, so I couldn't be Jugoslav now?

Your grandad was Greek who didn't know what is Macedonia, so you couldnt be Macedonian now. Overnight, sorry. :)

[tzakos1982]

your grandda was probably bulgarian transformewd to macedonian after the serbian influence....my grandda is greek macedonian..and i was born in macedonia..my macedonia has nothing to do with your former jugoslav country....before the fall of jugoslavia you were jugoslavs....macedonia is a STOLEN NAME..STOP STEALING IT...

[forevermkd]

Macedonia is one, from Vardar to Egej, from Prespa to Pirin.

Just 30 years ago YOU were saying that we are Macedonia....

HistoryOfMacedonia . tk

-Greek politics in 1980s.

What's the problem now?

[tzakos1982]

we never said that you are MACEDONIANS!!!after 1945 when tito decided to rename this north part of JUGOSLAVIA TO "SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA" greece didnt react back then because of the good relationships with jugoslavia and because in the whole world the name JUGOSLAVIA WAS USED FOR YOUR NATIONALITY AND YOUR OFFICIAL LANGUAGE WAS THE SEBOCROATIAN....

[forevermkd]

@tzakos1982

lol, when Tito decided to rename us to Macedonia right?

And what about the people who in 19 century were saying that are Macedonians from Macedonia? Do you have brain? :)

[tzakos1982]

before 1944...there was NEVER IN THE PAST A COUNTRY NAMED MACEDONIA,WHICH IN THIS COUNTRY THE PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT ARE MACEDONIANS AND SPEAK A LANGUAGE NAMED MACEDONIAN!!!!NEVER!!!IS YOUR BRAIN BIG ENOUGH TO GET OIT OR YOU ARE BLIND BY YOUR NATIONALISM??????

if you want to post again something i want FACTS AND NOT BLA,BLA,BLA!!!!DEAL WITH THAT!!

[forevermkd]

@tzakos1982

So in which century for the first time was country called Greece?

Maybe in Ancient time or medieval time? :D

[tzakos1982]

as as state with borders after 1870..as a nation i can prove that were people in the 1100,1200,1300,1400,1500,1600,­1700,1800 UNTIL TODAY THAT THEY WERE SAYING THAT ARE GREEKS OR HELLENSE....name AT LEAST ONE BEFORE 1800 THAT WAS SAYING THAT HIS NATIONALITY IS "MACEDONIAN"....JUST ONE I WANT...

[forevermkd]

@tzakos1982

hhhhh, respect for the nations in medievel time. :D

Do you know when is the national awakening of nations? :)

[forevermkd]

I mean do you know when is the national awakening of the people? :)

[tzakos1982]

national awaking against who?the ottomans?

[forevermkd]

@tzakos1982

lol, national awaing of the people. Not against anyone.

You think that in medievel time people knew what is nation? =)) lol

[tzakos1982]

@forevermkd

why you lough like an idiot??yes in the medieval people new about nations!!!the bulgarians had nation,the serbian kingdoms had nation and also the greeks were a nation through the byzantine empire which was multi-ethnic but GREEKS WERE THE LEADERS OF BYZANTIUM!!

i think that you are uneducated and i will not reply again to you...i feel sorry for your ignorance...you didnt answer AT LEAST 1 QUESTION OF MINE...

[forevermkd]

"yes in the medieval people new about nations."

No more doubt with you dude, sorry. :)

How old are you?

[tzakos1982]

@forevermkd

does my age will change something?i could be 40 years old and never go to school and i could also be 30 years old with studies in the level of doctora..believe me i am very well educated and if you want a civilized conversation with me..you must give me FACTS AND SOURCES...all the other is for nationalists...

[forevermkd]

I couldn't have a conversation on that low level, sorry.

[tzakos1982]

@forevermkd

low level is your academical education......if you were an educated person you could answer with FACTS ALL OF MY QUESTIONS...BUT AS ATUPICAL JUGOSLAV..YOU DIDNT...

[forevermkd]

Ok I'm uneducated too, so now lets speak about the nations in medieval time.... :))

[tzakos1982]

@forevermkd

ask me a question?

[forevermkd]

hhhh....

[tzakos1982]

as for the natioanist thoughts of all of you like "MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS,UNITED MACEDONIA ETC"are all propaganda which goes back in the early 40's...IN ANY OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS THERE WAS NEVER EXISTED A COUNTRY WITH THE BORDERS YOU SAID!!!!

[tzakos1982]

all started because of the "cold war" between west and east...communists and democrats.....the communists had all the countries in the balcans...jugoslavia,albania,b­ulgaria,romania etc...and because greece had the access to aegean they wanted toi make her communist country...that's why the americans back then helped greece to defend from the communists of stalin and tito...USA BACK THEN WAS SAYING....

[tzakos1982]

«The Department has noted increasing propaganda rumors and semi-official statements in favor of an autonomous Macedonia, emanating principally from Bulgaria, but also from YugoslavPartisan and other sources, with the implication that Greek territory would be included in the projected state. This Government (of USA) considers talk of Macedonian "nation", Macedonian "Fatherland", or Macedonian "national consciousness" to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic

[tzakos1982]

nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece.

The approved policy of this Government is to oppose any revival of the Macedonian issue as related to Greece. The Greek section of Macedonia is largely inhabited by Greeks, and the Greek people are almost unanimously opposed to the creation of a Macedonian state.

[tzakos1982]

Allegations of serious Greek participation in any such agitation can be assumed to be false. This Government (of USA) would regard as responsible any Government or group of Gonernments tolerating or encouraging menacing or aggressive acts of "Macedonian forces" against Greece».

(U.S. State Department, Foreign Relations Vol. VIII, 868.014 / 26 Dec. 1944)

[tzakos1982]

In 1862, Pulevski fought as a member of the BULGARIAN LEGION against an Ottoman siege at Belgrade. Later, during the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-1878, which led to the independence of Bulgaria, he was leader ("voijvod") of a unit of volunteers fighting on the Russian-Bulgarian side, taking part in the Battle of Shipka Pass.

[tzakos1982]

your favourite pulevski was just A BULGAR LIKE YOU!!!BUT AFTER THESE 100 YEARS AND THE MIXING WITH THE SERBIAN PROPAGANDA YOU CLAIM TO BE WHAT???"MACEDONIAN"!!!!???THAT WORD IS NOT FOR YOU....JUGOSLAV......

[forevermkd]

Bulgars were Turko-Mnogol tribe and not Slavic. Their langage was from Turkic origin and not Slavic.

[forevermkd]

Macedonian city,never Greek!

Turkish-Christians out of Lerin!

[2005defender]

@forevermkd

you fyromian idiot this is lerin in spain

ahahahahaha I cannt believe your stupidity

[forevermkd]

You mean Navarra? xD

Navarra never Spanish!!!! Freedom for Navarra!

hahahha....

[2005defender]

@forevermkd

Navarra is in Spain and Lerin in Spain is not a "Macedonian" City

Florina its Greek City and Greek will remain till the end of time

Anyone who want it can try his luck... anytime

[forevermkd]

Navarra is occupied by Spain and will be free soon!! Got it?! xD

And other Lerin is in Aegean Macedonia! I am from Aegean Macedonia.

[2005defender]

@forevermkd

the name of the ciity is Florina, since 1912 is Greek

[caiZGZista]

Yo me apellido Lerin y vivo en Zaragoza XDXDXD un saludo desde aqui

[XIelrayasXI]

brillante pueblo, me alegro y estoy orgulloso de tener familia alli y poder disfrutar de el

[unitedmake]

Eres macedonio?? Viva Espana Viva Macedonia

[valdechate]

Muy bonito en recorrido que haces por Lerín, lo vas a dar a conocer más aún por el mundo. Por cierto las fotos de Lerín en primavera y nevado desde el palacio son precioss¡as. Así que ya sabes máquina en ristre.

[alfondelerin]

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