Irish and Manx gaelic speakers discuss the Manx Gaelic revival

[ManxyBoy1]

It's amazing how similar the Manx and Irish languages are! I mean, people who speak Manx can understand the Irish language and vice-versa!

[ManxyBoy1]

Great to see the Isle of Man in this "físeán Gaeilge" :)

[utsumisan]

To hear the presenter saying that native speakers need to die off is a joke. His own Irish is so wooden, it's embarrassing. If that's the future of Irish, then I hope it does die off.

[AlexderFranke]

It is the best to keep languages to pass them on to children as native language. This can also be done by fluent non-native speaking parents. I do not agree with Manchán that it is no use making learning the indigenous language compulsory at school. If it is taught effectively, everybody will know the language to some extent in a few decades.

But the teaching methods have to meet with the interests of children and youngsters and not turn them off.

[SeanOBriain]

@AlexderFranke Agreed. Revise teaching methods (more immersion) and it will become more visible in society.

[SLuber12]

Thanks for the upload! Is the rest of this program on youtube?

[SeanOBriain]

@SLuber12 I've uploaded the first series, and the first episode of the second series.

[ruadhani]

an-deas.

[jonomurphy3]

How do they understand eachother? Is there a lot of mutual intelligibility ?

[SeanOBriain]

@jonomurphy3 phonetically, there's a bit of overlap - so we can understand basic conversation. writing is completely different though

[jonomurphy3]

@SeanOBriain

Ah I see, so the people are speaking their respective languages, i.e. Irish Gaelic and Manx Gaelic, to eachother in the vid? How does Scottish Gaelic compare to Manx in terms of mutual intelligibility with Irish ?

[SeanOBriain]

@jonomurphy3 Scottish Gaelic, and Manx Gaelic are derived from an old form of Irish. So they all share certain traits. Scottish Gaelic is phonetically slightly different (although still close) - So I can understand some basic Scottish Gaelic, but not alot. Someone who speaks the Ulster dialect of Irish gaelic could understand slightly a bit more, as it would be phonetically closer to Scottish. Keeping in mind that Irish has 3 different dialects, with different pronounciations.

[jonomurphy3]

@SeanOBriain

Awesome :) I'm London Irish (parents are Irish), and I want to learn Irish Gaelic as I think it's part of who I am as an Irishman. Just out of interest: what's the more similar form of Gaelic to Irish, the Scottish or Manx variant? I've heard Scottish Gaelic and it sounds remarkably similar to Irish hehe

[SeanOBriain]

@jonomurphy3 Scottish Gaelic's spelling is more similar and is closer to the Ulster dialect of Irish, but Manx Gaelic's pronounication sounds more similar to the Munster dialect of Irish. Manx has really different spelling, compared to Irish and Scottish gaelic though. So it's hard to say which is closer, cos they both are close. Irish has the most speakers out of all of them though!

[jonomurphy3]

@SeanOBriain

Thanks a lot! I'm guessing you speak Irish fluently/well? How long do you reckon it would take (if I was dedicated) me to learn at least the basics to uphold a conversation?

[SeanOBriain]

@jonomurphy3 Yes, I speak Irish reasonably well. Basics take about 6 months - But you'll need to find a conversational group to meet up with so you can practice it. If you don't practice, you will forget what you have learned. Pick up the first Buntús Cainte book. It only costs a few pounds. It will introduce you to the basics. There's lots of Irish speakers in London - I'm sure you'll find a group. E-mail conradh na gaeilge for conversational groups or lessons in London :)

[SeanOBriain]

@jonomurphy3 Yes, I speak Irish reasonably well. Basics take about 6 months - But you'll need to find a conversational group to meet up with so you can practice it. If you don't practice, you will forget what you have learned. Pick up the first Buntús Cainte book. It only costs a few pounds. It will introduce you to the basics. There's lots of Irish speakers in London - I'm sure you'll find a group. E-mail conradh na gaeilge for conversational groups or lessons in London :)

[SeanOBriain]

@jonomurphy3 Yes, I speak Irish reasonably well. Basics take about 6 months - But you'll need to find a conversational group to meet up with so you can practice it. If you don't practice, you will forget what you have learned. Pick up the first Buntús Cainte book. It only costs a few pounds. It will introduce you to the basics. There's lots of Irish speakers in London - I'm sure you'll find a group. E-mail conradh na gaeilge for conversational groups or lessons in London :)

[jonomurphy3]

@SeanOBriain

Thanks a lot for the information!

[stealth1692]

@SeanOBriain do you know anywhere in england or the isle of man that teaches manx gaelic?

[SeanOBriain]

@stealth1692 Get in touch with Adrian Cain, he's the Manx language officer on the Isle of Man and will be able to point you in the right direction. Google his name, you'll find him.

[stealth1692]

@SeanOBriain that was quick anyway thank you ill do that now

[mynameismarvin]

is he spaking manx or irish?

[mynameismarvin]

@mynameismarvin i mean speaking lol :D

[MsOneiroi77]

the word "chan eil" sounds more like scottish gaelic

[bacabu30]

Gheobhaidh an Ghaeilge bás sa todhchaí freisin, sin cinnte.

[kjmacinnes8]

Bha mi cinnteach nach robh mi ga tuigsinn ach chan eil an canan sin gu math diofar na gaidhlig ann an Alba. Bha sin soilleir gu leor ach tha mi a smoineachadh gu bheil an canan agamsa nas fhearr :). Tha mi an duil gum bi an canan vanninigh nas beothaile dh'aithghearr.

[mackerel47]

Long live the revival. Celtic languages are beautiful. They were here long before English. I hope Manx becomes the majority language on the island,it would be wonderful.

Greetings from Cumbria!(I hope they revive Cumbric too-that would take a miracle!)

[balak1]

Really interesing, greetings from a former irish language self-teaching student from Romania!

[BlackSunElite]

I would of loved to learn Scots-Gaelic in school rather than french or German. At least I would be learning a language that i can actually use in my own country and engage in my own culture and heritage. I actually feel robed.

[SeanOBriain]

@BlackSunElite There's always time =) While I studied Irish in school, I learned to speak it proficiently outside of school. Find a conversational group, and take the first step :) In a year from now - you'll be comfortable with the basics.