m5board.com: BMW M5 E39 standard vs Audi RS4 V8

[dcrisely1298]

sounds to me like the audi is a time bomb when accelarating

[caseyryeback1913]

Not a surprising result. The B7 RS4 is way down on what the factory quoted bhp is - most that have been on a rolling road at major tuners report stock cars having ~380bhp, with virtually none actually making over 400bhp let alone 414. As mentioned above the older Rs6 would be a better comparisson.

[spareknobba]

Truth be known, there is no straight comparison. The RS4 is smaller and the RS6 is larger than the M5. M5 is better than both though. If you need me to explain why then you have never owned any of them, never mind all of them, like me....

[Lampelys]

If you would compare The e39 m5 to something it would be the Rs6. not the rs4 :).

[BRUNOVENE1]

Im with methaman1 BMW m5 bitch slapped the audi the shit audi

[lawriemanc]

but the m5 IS shit

[BRUNOVENE1]

@lawriemanc  Clearly not it can pwn every audi except the v10 r8 as even the m3 can pwn the v8 r8 shows how audi has come on when they cant even make a car thats faster than a luxury car company when there company is all about speed

[lawriemanc]

@BRUNOVENE1 no

[methaman1]

BMW H8TR?! What a wanker! LMAO 1st, quattro is for pussies and 2nd that m5 just bitch slapped the newer, more powerful RS4. ///M - Power all the way!

[ThatHoodNiggaBrik]

this bmw must be chiped or something

[miksirikoitsen]

as u all can see, audi is bulls*it

[rafalexpx]

that M5 E39 is the best looking BMW ever made!

[JORDIxRx]

I second that!

[gixrider1]

It was pretty close, now put them in a nice road corse ( twisty road) and watch the Audi shine

[xXxJasi0xXx]

LOL! BMW E39 M5 model older than the Audi S4 and Audi have a large technical advantage over BMW and has been behind! xD So you can see that Audi has never overtake engines M power

[samimalmstrom]

Audi is over rated, its like an exclusive VW, and over priced too.

[uzta]

bmw power!!!

[davidenrigalvez]

retard... put that crappy bimmer to beat an rs6, the rs4 is to beat the crappy m3 saloon...

[Lasse3333]

No.... Your right in the part with M5 vs. RS6 and M3 vs. RS4, but here, it is the new RS4 with 420 hp against the old M5 with 400 hp. The BMW is also heavier than the Audi, and has probably a higher mileage too.....

By the way. BMW M power!

[davidenrigalvez]

4.9 liter engine... of course the bimmer will win, the audi is only 4.2 liter engine with quattro that sacrifices a lil bit of speed but has tons of safety... and the miles doesnt matter... what will win, a new prius or a 20 y/o testarossa

[speedfreak3721]

bmw has a 4.0 btw

[CrazyCaliber]

This one has a 5.0 L.

[pero130RS]

The E39 M5 would also beat the new M3 E92 in top speed and acceleration.

[DerNanze]

ehm ask the guys from the board,

they know whats what.

[toomany0034]

That VW got owned! BMW forever

[Ferentus728]

LOL..  Bmw sucks Audi 4-Ever

[bauerhauns1994]

lol

its the old bmw

the newer one is better that audi

AUDI sucks

BMW forever

[theannoyingdogpoo]

Why do you feature German cars only?

[DShadow911]

these are peoples cars who volunteer em on here and they are european so heaven knows they drive euros

[johan404]

Waste of time indeed. Bullshit advertising!

[broadbent48]

Completely agree.

This is rubish!

[lapirk]

how come you guys dont use the r8? i want to see it gettn creamed

[DjCristii]

r u retarded?

[lapirk]

you definitely are to ask such a question. what part dont you get?

[street302]

waste of time

[pumagoing]

wow the BMW is fast ...

[roman0078]

this Audi RS4 is from Latvia I like the license plate!

[Trithij]

Oh, that is fine, it is my native country actually. I hope that I will soon also be able to take part in such event.

[roman0078]

Hello to RIGA from Me!Привет Риге от меня!Sveiki Riga!

[FletchCSL]

i think its prety fair to assume this rs4 wasn't running 100% in the temp as both the E39 M5 and M3 CSL pulled away, but in later tests theres nothing to separate them

but dont forget that the audi's 4wd system will result in greater power losses in the transmission so bhp AT THE WHEELS is likely to be near identical. this is where power matters not at the manufacturer qouted flywheel outputs

[ledas0]

it wasnt fare the audi should of won 100%

[FioranoJC]

I didnt expect that to happen! The BMW won. That's 400 bhp against 420. And the M5 is bigger. Wuaha you can see that the older cars rule! I love U BMW

[troopsy95]

I have the new M5 if the car was in 'M' mode then the car will have been producing 507 bhp

[amirrozlan]

e39's rule! and... the e60 is :/ well. to me, at least.

[TitaniumAudi]

Sorry, I didn't mean it sucked, but I just don't believe it's real all out race.

[TitaniumAudi]

This video sucks.

[m5boarddotcom]

Why?

[JBFARTCC]

Great to see this match up never would have guessed it. I have driven many E39 M5s didnt think this result would of come. I know my 04 CLK55 and the M5 are neck and neck to 155 so this is good to know! But go BMW and this car is 9 model years old!

[troopsy95]

the E90 m5 does 204mph

[huzoclk55amg]

do you think you can hanfg on to e 92 m3

[Y3MUR]

great vid as always love the german cars

[blackdragon996]

The RS4 is a fanstastic car... But the m5 still steals my heart, every time i drive it. I just love the styling and the torquey engine. Once again, a great movie (test) from the m5board people!!! Cheers guys.

[m5boarddotcom]

Thanks!

Yo ucan order our first DVDI on Amazon. Search for gtboard

[DZNewmark]

You fool.

Heat outside has BARELY anything to do with performance. Are you aware the inside of the engine is MUCH MUCH hotter than the outside of the air?

Are you aware that the oil temperature is 3 times the outside air on a very hot day?

The only time temperature matters is when it's very cold out. Shows how much you know.

[m5boarddotcom]

Behave and be respectful! Intake air temperature is very important for performance.

[mufflejoy]

I can testify to that too. My first car was a 1987 Renault 5 GT Turbo - it was much faster on cold days because - like the effect of an intercooler - colder air condenses better to give more power. It makes a huge difference if it is 5 or 25 degrees celcius (40 or 80F).

[ArchiLV]

Ur just plain stupid

[FletchCSL]

@DZNewmark

colder air is denser and therefore allows the engine to intake a greater amount, run more effieciently thus produce more power. Cars with forced induction benefit greatly from this. its commonly known for turbocharged cars such as a lancer evo of impretza WRX to run better results on a rolling road in winter months than summer....i've seen it many times myself. Despite the quoted engine outputs the BMWs on the day performed due to better engine breathing realtive to the audi

[fotoman3]

wish the M5 had as much style as the RS4..

[m5boarddotcom]

It's more discreet :)

[Lukec4ge]

my dads got a m5 it so much better than the RS4

[m5boarddotcom]

OK.

[Lukec4ge]

my dads got a m5 it so much better than the RS4

[elliottleach92]

That Audi is right where it should be .... left in the wake of the BMW!

[elliottleach92]

That Audi is right where it should be .... left in the wake of the BMW!

[miksirikoitsen]

Haha where is BMWH8ER now? LOL LOL damn that shitty RS4 is slow. I bet even a tractor would beat it!

E39 M5 RULES!!!

[supagog]

yea bmw also have way better reliability than audi

[danielrs4]

no te lo crees ni tu k el m5 e39 pueda con un rs4 jaja

[m5boarddotcom]

Buy this DVD on Aamazon for $25: Go to Amazon and search for GTboard

[emadelta86]

Just think about this: a 6 or 7 years old bmw is faster than a brand new RS4.

That shows how good BMWs are.

[realmca]

I guess dznewmark ignores the fact that these cars start racing while cruising in 50 km/h. I am not a big bmw fan, I prefer japanese tuning cars but have to admit bmw's superiority in its class. Its more fun to drive, sounds better and a better babe magnet :)

[fletcher155]

DZNewmark: You are very ignorant and rude little boy! Now go home to your mamma before you make me really mad on behalf of alle the people here with knowledge about cars.

[DZNewmark]

knowledge about cars? your making a joke, right?

because some bmw fanboy posted a bimmer winning, your gonna believe it?

[30M3csl]

Wow audi still has some way too go before it can consider itself a performance car manufacturer!!! BMW is the daddy!!

[DZNewmark]

Seriously, that doesn't happen.

According to Top Gear, the new RS4 beat the older M3 CS! in a drag 7 out of 7 times. The old M3 is faster than the old M5 in a straight line, therefore, your video is complete bullshit.

[m5boarddotcom]

Your comment is complete bullshit since you are rude.

M3 CSL is significantly lighter than the M3 CS and this was also done when it was very hot.

[BradV8]

More BS from DZNewmark! The M5 has better top end and mid range pull. Its called V8 vs Stght 6.

[DZNewmark]

yeah, the rs4 has a straight 6, yea ok BradV8. In addition, it's extra weight, less horsepower, not as good tires, and less aerodynamics make it faster than the Audi too. Yea, this M5board guy is an idiot. He has a vid of a kelleners M5 tieing a 997 911 turbo. you KNOW that never happens.

And realmca, if you think the old M5 looks as good as the new RS4, you need to shoot yourself.

[BradV8]

No the new RS4 and M3 are very similar in weight, aerodynamics arnt a deal bracker. Fact it.

[DZNewmark]

I was talking about the M5 in this race. It's heavier and less aerodynamic than the RS4.

A modded M5 has only FIFTY EXTRA HORSES. THATS IT! They didn't make a major drivetrain V12 engine with twin turbos in it! No, just a few mods that added 50 hp. Not enough to tip the scale for the BMW.

[BradV8]

50 more horses can do a bit man! This isnt a production BMW. What are you talking about? Do u mean the M5 owner should have modded the car further? If so why? Its just a race. This dosnt prove anything..That M5 is much older anyways.. Only a fool would call either car bad! Both at ther time wer top of ther class.. mind you the M3 never lost its crown.

[DZNewmark]

Top Gear raced the old M3 against the new RS4 in a straight line drag, the RS4 won by a longshot 7/7 times. That's irreverisble proof that the RS4 has faster acceleration. They are professionals, who are unbias. Might I remind you the RS4 was also FASTER around the track.

In addition, this is a bone stock M5. I was referring to another vid of M5board's, but this one isn't real. The old M3 and M5 were about even, and if the old M3 loses to the RS4, the RS4 is faster than the older M3.

[BradV8]

Yeah.. key word they being OLD M3! The E46 is 10 years old! Ass.

[BradV8]

Top gear also raced the M3 E92 vs the new RS4.. the M3 beat it in ALL areas!

Everyone knows the old M3 is slower than the NEW RS4... who cares. We talking about the NEW M3 vs the NEW RS4. The M3 is faster on a track.. in a stght line.. it stops faster.. it sounds better.. it looks better.. it has the most advanced V8 ever made in it (when it first came out) Its just faster. Thats such a dumb comment .. the E46 is TEN YEARS OLD!

[DZNewmark]

1. M3 is ONLY FASTER on track if powersliding. Do you know how to powerslide? Don't even try to lie.

2. Looks are opinion, I think the RS4 looks better.

3. The E46 M3 is NOT 10 years old.

[BradV8]

can you count? 98 - 08 when the E92 M3 popd up! The M3 is faster on a track! and in a drag! As proven here AND on Top Gear! AND in ALL other car mags iv read about it in.. that would be over 10! Looks are opinion true!

[DZNewmark]

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA the E46 M3 WAS NOT ON SALE in 1998. do your research, i used to own one, and now I have an RS4, which I took a vid of to prove so. how bout you?

I WENT TO SPAIN, 9/10 EUROPEAN MAGAZINES FAVORED THE RS4, AND SAID IT BEAT THE M3. GO LOOK ONLINE. The US and UK tends to favor the M3, and Europe favors the RS4. I brought back loads of magazines.

Second of all, if you can't properly powerslife, the M3 won't have as fast a track time. take a vid of your m3, if you have one.

[BradV8]

I do own one. And I used to work for BMW I fkn sold one that was a 1998.

[BradV8]

lol fk thats funny. Ther are heaps of 1999 M3s iv gota say that 98 was the only 98 E46 M3 I have seen - it didnt have leather or anything.. it was the first in NZ and was Manual.. Anyway it was a 98. So 10 years old. Nice car! My best mate has an RS4 also but in the electric blue. Sorry but view the top gear vid dude! The M3 beats it on the drag AND on the track!

[BradV8]

You wanna see a sick RS4 search RS4 clubsport by MTM! That thing is pure sex.

[BradV8]

lol can I powerslide? How is that even relevant. I was shown how to a while ago yes.. dont often do it tho

[Adam786Rs2]

u are a special dumb bastard it doesn't matter if its ten or nine years its not the current model and the CSL is quiker then the Rscrape with it fake 60-40 split

[Adam786Rs2]

ur a dick because I buy top gear magazines and they are completely biased to either the mercedes C63 or the Rs Crape. In the magizine they say that both Merc and Rscrape were going to be quicker than the E92 and when they actually tested the cars the E92 was 5.5 seconds faster then the rscrape and 5.0 faster then the gay merc that does 13mpg and the tyres on the merc they used were finished after they used them on the track

[m5boarddotcom]

THe M5 only had 30 HP more.

[DZNewmark]

what? This M5 has LESS HORSEPOWER than the RS4.

[m5boarddotcom]

Sorry. I mixed it up, I wa sthinking of the BMW M5 E39 Supersprint vs Audi RS4.

[BradV8]

Why is it imposiable for a midded M5 do beat a 911 997 turbo? Its not at all! Standard vs standard the turbo will rip the M5 a new A hole but its not a standard M5!

[nagmashot]

pointless straightline ricer rolling start acceleration..on a race track the RS4 destroys a e36 M5 by lightyears.. nice try BMW boys

[m5boarddotcom]

LOL, acceleration is a pretty important factor even on Norschleife :)

[nagmashot]

tracktion and handling is more important...

all times are stock productin cars..

B7 RS4 7:58min driver Frank Stippler

B7 RS4 8:09min driver Horst von Saurma

B5 RS4 8:25min driver Horst von Saurma

E39 M5 8:28min driver Horst von Saurma

you need better arguments ;)

[m5boarddotcom]

B7 RS4 had R-tyres, carbon brakes and sport chassi, so not a really fair comparison.

[nagmashot]

who said life is fair? That is avaible from factory for the RS4. The Audi B6 S4 Avant is as fast around the Ring as the E39 M5 without R-tires and carbon rotors and lower power..

[m5boarddotcom]

And in she straight line an E39 M5 humliates the RS4 B7.

[DZNewmark]

Impossible.

The E39 M5 produces 394 horsepower, and weighs 4024 pounds.

The B7 RS4 produces 420 horsepower, and weighs 3908 pounds.

Over a 100 pound difference, and a 26hp difference.

Don't give me the AWD eats power BS, because if it did, the RS4 wouldn't be able to do a 12.8 1/4 mile. Last time I checked the E39 M5 did it in about 13.5.

[m5boarddotcom]

I have showed it in 3+ videos on my profile, check it out.

Quarter mile time is good thanks to a good start due the 4WD. These videos are WELL ABOVE THE QUARTER and to 250 km/h. That's why!

[DZNewmark]

I UNDERSTAND THAT IDIOT, but what I'm trying to show you is the RS4 has incredible acceleration at higher speeds where you say it lacks. You are wrong, just admit it's rigged.

How can you even think you are right? The BMW has less horses and weighs more, and is less aerodynamic, and is higher off the ground. It LOSES.

[emadelta86]

If you take the Nurb times as a good indicator,you seriously believe that a corvette z06 is faster than a Zonda F!

Come on,that's not THE way for cars comparison.

In any case,think that the M5 is getting old now,and your beloved RS4 is brand new!

[edzorx]

BMW FTW!

[zafert85]

omfg even the m5 is faster than the rs4

the audi rs4 really sucks man

[m5boarddotcom]

And that was the "old M5" and completely standard.

[minvolvo]

HaHa riktigt bra:D

[m5boarddotcom]

Man tackar :D

[liveinthefastlane]

4.2 liter based on old 4.2 A8 engine launched back in 1994 VS a 5 liter developped specialy for the M5 e39....what do you think?

I was Audi for years starting with the UR quattro(1982),Quattro coupe sport (1986) ,S4(1992),RS2 porsche(1994), RS4(2000) but then switch to BMW M5 and still enjoyed the M power so much..next is the M6(500HP) ...not the RS6 (580 hp )....cheers!

[m5boarddotcom]

5 liter V8 is based on the BMW 540i engine. Nice to hear you enjoy M cars!

[liveinthefastlane]

well not really because the 540 is a 4.4 liter derived from the old v 12 they input in 1986 in the old 7 series 750i ...the 5 liter m5 was developped from scratch...nice talking to you...

[m5boarddotcom]

That is actually wrong.

[topsecret5]

liveinthefastlane, you are totally wrong, the 5.0 litter is pretty much a 4.4 bored out to 5 liters with higher compression and some other goods. you ignorant! even m5boarddotcom told you that you were wrong, if he says that you are wrong is for a reason, because he administers/modds a BMW forums, and guess what, they know their stuff. have a nice day

[exhaust06]

BMW m power terrible

[m5boarddotcom]

Terrific?

[MULTIPLASKLEROZA]

damn man yo m5board can really fool some american idiots who have never even driven an m car or audi s/rs car,but to show vids where a e39 m5 beats new audi , or m3 csl is faster than the rs4,is simply tryin 2 make us idiots.i mean cmon look at any car magazine or car series on tv and ull c that m cars are really great sports cars,i give them respect,but there r some races that they cannot win,period.its a prooven fact,search the net for 5mins and ull be convinced trust me. njoy!!

[m5boarddotcom]

They do not try 50-260 km/h.

[elietosado15]

Audi is a "very good car"!lol "problem is, around BMW, Audi shows its ture colors "wannabe BMW" Yeah I said it!!! MPOWER FOR LIFE!!!!

[m5boarddotcom]

LOL :D

[DZNewmark]

you annoy the hell out of me.

The BMW has 394 horsepower, and weighs 4024 pounds.

The Audi has 420 horsepower, and wighs 3908 pounds.

YOU LOSE, STOP FAKING RACES.

[DZNewmark]

In addition,

The B7 RS4 has BEEN PROVEN BY MAGAZINES to beat the e46 M3 by a good amount. Not you biased BMW fanboys.

The BMW e46 M3 is faster than the e39 M5.

Therefore, B7 RS4>e46 M3>e39 M5

Stop making fake races.

[m5boarddotcom]

And using better language. It's a well known fact that the Audi RS4 is a slow car at speed.

[DZNewmark]

No it isn't. Go search on youtube:

"RS4 b7n 0-169"

A re-mapped RS4 does 0-169 in an incredibly fast time.

[welshdude6669]

look at the torque figures as well dumbass, its not just power that wins a race

[DZNewmark]

While torque is good for passing power, HP matters a lot more.

The M5 has a lower redline and makes more torque, yet the RS4 has a higher redline and makes more hp.

THE RS4 IS PROVEN TO BE FASTER, THIS FANBOY VIDEO IS NONSENSE.

[welshdude6669]

youre a douche, all factors must be taken into account, including the power, torque and of course...the driver -.-

[neodan2004]

are u stupid or just stupid ?? e46 m3 it's not faster than a e39 m5 ...just accept that audi sucks or it's just another bmw wannabe!

[DZNewmark]

YES IT IS! The M3 makes only 60 HP less but weighs over 500 pounds less.

Look up the stats, in ALL tests, the M3 is faster than the M5.

And this race is rigged.

[m5boarddotcom]

Please be more polite in your comments.

[mchamp3802]

holy crap! hahaha I love the audi's plate....I wonder if I can get the same one here in the united states on my rs4 lol!

[m5boarddotcom]

May I suggest: "BMW 8 ME"

:D

[mchamp3802]

haha thats a good one

[FuzzyStone01]

i don´t want to argue. Let it be

[m5boarddotcom]

Excuse me?

[billygoods]

I'd hate BMW's too if I kept losing to them.

He should change his license plates to:

"BMW 8 ME"

[m5boarddotcom]

Hahaha, that was a good one :D

[m5boarddotcom]

LOL :)

[RomanianOrthodox25]

Normal!! Beemer is much better,is AUDI a brand??

[m5boarddotcom]

Audi is a brand.

[FuzzyStone01]

i see more advertising than promised M5 vs Audi RS4. Is that nessesary

[m5boarddotcom]

Didn't you see the race?

[FuzzyStone01]

i see. But between every interesting part is advert. I know that you want to sell your DVD but this form of advert is not in my style. Ok?

[m5boarddotcom]

So what is your style? You realize that it costs money to produce this, and this is still for free?

[m5boarddotcom]

So what is your style and what would you prefeer? You do realize that it costs money to do these?

[goodthomas]

I THINK the bmw 550i will have the close straight line performance of the Rs4,cause there is too much power loss at high speed for AWD...

[m5boarddotcom]

That is actually a interesting comparison. Would be interesting!

[TuRkeyboy1xxx]

!FUCK YOU ITS A FAKE RS4 are faster than a standart M5 e39 HAHA the RS4 Driver can´t drive !!! BASTARD!!!

RS4 B5 The best

[m5boarddotcom]

Do behave here, your language is not appropriate.

We have tried racing a BMW M5 E39 (with Superpsrint headers, +30 HP) THREE times and with hte smae result: Audi RS4 V8 will get walked at speed.

[scabberdoug]

as you watch this video it becomes readily apparent why he H8's them

[m5boarddotcom]

Who and what?

[fofototololo]

good luck

[fofototololo]

if you want add me on my email am ready to talk with you take it king4ulove@hot

[fofototololo]

i like bmw cars and my brother have one but covertabile bmw it's 328i

[scabberdoug]

wheres MetalSNACK when you need him??

[m5boarddotcom]

Who is that?

[scabberdoug]

he is assignite1980x's friend

[d993s]

BMW bias is VERY evident here. ;)

[m5boarddotcom]

I will psot some more videos and I wil lshow you soem BMWs that are looosing as well :)

[d993s]

Yes, thanks.....it appears that BMW's are usually only allowed to lose to modified Porsches, Ferraris and Lambos.....

[m5boarddotcom]

Well, that could be. Actually I was just aboutto post when the BMW M5 Touring lost against a Ferrrari 612 Scaglietti.

In anycase, many people STILL (after two years) have a hard time realize the performance of BWM M V-10 paired with the 7-speed gearbox.

[d993s]

No doubt the close ratio 7spd and the v10 are a good combo.....evident in the 50-250kph runs....and I love BMWs as well, but why is there (almost always) an excuse posted BEFORE the runs are shown if a BMW loses......?

[m5boarddotcom]

You might have a point :) Becuase I am the driver of the BMW and I know what happend. I don't know what is going on in the other cars if they do not follow to me.

[joker8762]

its fake

its a BMW Board

the driver drives slow

[m5boarddotcom]

It is not fake.

[Muzzyaksoy]

Kral M6 !

[m5boarddotcom]

Enlgish please.

[ar87ace]

BMW-the ultimate driving machine! Mpower rules!!!BMW4EVER!!!

[zer0six66]

Yeah, thats right.. BMW M is the the one and only..!

[c7andrei]

with its AWD audi looses about 50hp, that means that m5 actually has more hp.

[m5boarddotcom]

No. It does not. But it has 2WD.

[c7andrei]

m5 has a 2WD and rs4 has AWD with about 60% on the back wheels and 40 up front,and hp decreases because of that.

[algisb3]

M5 isn't standart

[m5boarddotcom]

That BMW M5 was standard. It is on the other videos the BMW M5 wasn't standard (Supersprint).

[audifanatic]

man what is this rigged piece of shit all about

[m5boarddotcom]

Wrong.