Saunders Hates Women

[BlueFireWitch]

@Cliner98 I never said that women back then were given the same freedoms, but I'm not sure what that has to do with the point.

[jigsawsittinontoilet]

hmmmmm

[momokoaoichan]

I was raised Christian, and I completly agree with everything that you said.

Blessed Be )O(

[SaerdnaOoOoo]

Muslim men put them self on pedistals and their self-concious are so fragile towards women. Is someone thinks he's better than everyone else, and trulely men really wants women. so when this man who thinks he's better than sex and attraction and contradictory best at i at the same time, when ahe finds another man prevails in seductiveness hes vision of himself as supperior takes a big hit. the feeling of threat creates hate and instead of improve one self trying to make other look bad.

[carthonasi08]

Truth is a language lost to many of this age, I am glad to see you speak it fluently. As a Wiccan male I must say I have the greatest respect to all my females equals. Blessed Be!

[TheAgentChaos]

"As if I'd ever ask out that nasty piece of shit."

Ha ha! The truth hurts, doesn't it, TJ?

[dkinnibu]

Whoo Hooo, you rock BlueFire! I love to see an emotionally charged video that is completely driven by intelligence and facts! Thank you!

[PeacefulHeathen]

Who is this Saunders person? Does he have a channel? The only channel called "saunders" I can find is just a channel with no uploads (however he appears to be a David Bowie fan).

[BlueFireWitch]

Saundersacts2618

[DreamingBearHeathen]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What one thinks is beautiful (both outside and inside) differs from person to person. Someone that one person might find ugly another might find beautiful. For example personally I do not find blonde hair attractive but the next guy might think its down right dead sexy. It all depends (in my opinion) between what we're genetically programed as well as our personal tastes in/of personality. Same thing goes with personalities qualities.

[DreamingBearHeathen]

What can I say? The whole thing is indeed completely insane. Men and women are equal, neither one better or worse as each compliments and completes the others like two halfs of a whole. Its shit like this that angers me about my gender because when a bunch of men act ignorant to women then all men are automtcally heartless braindead sexist pigs which isn't true. to be contuined.

[camillaheartsyou]

he said you are ugly!!! he must not have had anything else left to say lol xD

[firebirdwitch182]

I was discussing womens rights last night with my a group of people last night. We were on a bus coming home from New England. We asked a friend of mine: "Do you believe in the hierarchy of the Church?" She replied: " Yes." We all immediately started laughing hysterically and we told her that she just gave herself absolutely no rights! We all agreed that women should be able to do everything that men can, but men should always protect the physical well being of women in general. :)

[KinsmenRedeemed]

Well your last comment shows your complete lack of understanding of Christian faith. If I wanted to believe the Jewish side of the story I would be in Judaism.

I guess I'm done here since you apparently have no understanding at all of the topic at hand and would rather use your own flawed understanding of Christian faith and thrust it upon me. But rest assured it's a high probability that whatever you know of Christianity is not in line with biblical doctrine.

[firebirdwitch182]

Actually, I was on a bus of all catholics! (with the exception of me) The bus was driven my a Marianist Brother! Dont tell me that I have no idea what im talking about when i talk about the church. (I've been there and done that)

[KinsmenRedeemed]

firebirdwitch182

I don't remember sending a single comment your way. So why are you bringing a comment to me as if I directed anything at all towards you?

My comments were for BlueFire. You know...the lady in this video. And I am leaving here in peace and what I hope are at least semi good terms.

And this is yet another situation where we have all sorts of different doctrines. Practicing Catholics have their own doctrine that isn't always Biblical as well.

Later.

[firebirdwitch182]

sorry, but your last comment was a reply to my comment and i got a mssg, etc. Oops!

[Mysticdreamlight]

A bit ranty, but still one of your best videos that I've seen. Keep it up, you go, grrl.

[dizzykittys]

Go Blue Witch!

[KinsmenRedeemed]

Your "gods" and "goddesses" are nothing but labels for satan. If you are not worshiping Yahweh then you are worshiping satan.

I know you don't want to hear it but the truth is the truth.

And since you mention it I don't judge based on appearance so it is irrelevant. But I will go on record saying that you are not bad looking at all.

I judge based on one single criteria...Do you know Jesus or not.

I wish you would come to Christ who gave his life for you.

[gandhara496]

KinsmenRedeemed, couldn't we just turn that around and say your god is nothing but a label for an evil demon of the desert who is tricking you? And our gods and goddesses are the truth?

see? your statement is utterly pointless. cuz someone can just say the same thing about the truth of their deity to you too (and you won't want to hear it either!). I could say the same thing about Cernunnos, he's the truth to me!! Do you know Him? LOL

[KinsmenRedeemed]

gandhara

My God predicts the future to show who he is.

What does your god do?

[gandhara496]

those are prophetic writings, the writings of men. just like all writings are. doesn't mean they hold any more truth than other gods who predict the future. In the ancient world multiple deities could predict the future through their oracle priests who would then reveal the messages of the god to the people. How is that any different from what your god does?

[KinsmenRedeemed]

gandhara

Ever hear of familiar spirits?

There are evil spirits that have been around for a LONG time just as satan has been. So it's no surpise that when they are called on they may be able to give some form of short term prophecy or give certain details about a person, place or thing.

Read Acts chapter 16 and see how Paul deals with this exact subject. When Paul rebuked the spirit in the slave girl that had been giving predictions she lost her power to do so.

Light beats darkness.

[WesternWhiteWolf]

Nobody here cares what you or the Bible says. I doubt very many people here even believe in Satan. Your preachings have little impact, because we've heard it all before, and we think it's b.s.

[BlueFireWitch]

Actually, Jews didn't even believe in Satan. He hasn't been around a long time. The Old Gods. however, have been around a long time. Long enough to show that the "miracles of Jesus" were obviously copied from them.

[KinsmenRedeemed]

I'm sorry BlueFire, but that is exactly what satan wants you to believe. satan wants you to believe in anything but Yahweh. It all goes back to Nimrod and ancient Babylon. Nimrod's name is from the verb "let us revolt." He was known as "a might hunter in the sight of the Lord". However he didn't hunt animals but the souls of men. Deuteronomy 30:17-18 says that if you turn your hearts away and are drawn to worship other gods you will certainly be destroyed. Heaven and earth are witnesses to this.

[BlueFireWitch]

A couple comments to you. #1. It's not what your made up Satan wants me to believe it's the truth. Ask a Jew. They don't believe in Satan. Secondly, we have evidene that contradicts the Bible and what the OT says, so why would quoting a flawed source be proof to me? Lastly, The OT also says you should not eat shellfish and kill people for working on the Sabbath. If you want to follow Yahweh, go down to the hospital with an gun and shoot all the doctors who work from Fri. night thru Sat.

[tannhaus]

Many gods can predict the future...that's no big deal. It's even less of a big deal when things are said vague enough to apply to many different things, those things have not come to pass yet, or...and this is a biggie with the Bible...things were written to make it seem like the prophecy was fulfilled.

[KinsmenRedeemed]

Hi tannhaus.

I notice you didn't give a single example of what you refer to in your comment to me.

I can give many. The NWO was predicted by Jesus 2,000 years ago and is now coming to pass. He predicted a revived Roman Empire would lead the way, which they are. The Psalm 83 war is on the brink of happening as we speak. Ezekiel 36 and 37 have passed and the war spoken of in Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 are coming to pass as we speak as well. I could go on except I'm short on space.

[BlueFireWitch]

Funny how he supposedly predicted that, but he couldn't give detailed accounts of what the world would be like now. Ie cars, cell phones, TV. You'd think a Divine Being wouldn't leave those details out.

[KinsmenRedeemed]

What? Apply your same logic please. When did your god tell us about cell phones and TV? Dang...I would think a divine goddess would make these things known so that we may believe.

Think about it.

[BlueFireWitch]

I never claimed my gods are omniscient.

[BlueFireWitch]

You are the one claiming your God can predict the future, not I.

[tannhaus]

Again: it's even less of a big deal when things are said vague enough to apply to many different things.

You know, it's funny how people try to say the Bible predicted things about the future, when it couldn't even get things straight about it's own time period. Separating the waters above from the waters below? Egyptian belief that the sky was water. Tower of Babel? Impossible. We know now that the higher you go, the less air you have. We also know that languages continue to develop.

[KinsmenRedeemed]

Well you mention the tower of Babel. Okay...lets roll with it. God scattered the nations and confused their languages. Is it yet another coincidence that the same revived Roman Empire I just mentioned and Jesus predicted has the slogan of "Many nations, one voice" against Gods' decree of scattering the nations? It would certainly appear they know exactly who they are. They even have a sculpture of the woman riding the beast plopped right outside of their building.

[tannhaus]

God scattered the nations and confused their languages? REALLY? Ok...let's take this bit by bit. First, he supposedly did this because they were working together and would reach heaven if they continued to work together. Now, we know that is a mythological story to explain where all the different languages came from. For starters, they couldn't reach anywhere. They would pass out from lack of oxygen. So are you telling me God didn't know there wasn't enough oxygen in the outer atmosphere?

[tannhaus]

Second, we know that no language just "is". Every language is morphing as we speak. Look at English two hundred years ago...vastly different from today. In 200 more years, it will be vastly different from now. We know that many English words came from other languages...we know those languages got words from previous languages, etc. We know that when we look around and see people speaking different languages, that it isn't because God gave them different languages. Languages morph.

[BlueFireWitch]

Tannhaus is right, any good linguist will tell you this. Even the Christian ones. It's obvious that the story of the Tower of Babel was a mythological story to explain the different languages and to teach a moral message.

[tannhaus]

Third and last for now: We now understand architecture and structural engineering to a vastly greater degree than they did back then. We know the pressures exerted on the bottom stones grow the more stones you add. At some point, the stones will crumble under the weight of the edifice. It will sink. The base would have to continue to grow along with the height...to ridiculous proportions. We understand the story is mythology because we are more advanced than the man who wrote the story.

[KinsmenRedeemed]

You wrote a lot. But you didn't say much. You miss the whole point of the story. The builders of the tower never took Gods' will into account and in doing so they were rebelling against God. So he stopped the building of the tower and scattered the nations.

Take a look at the Brueghels' painting from mid 1500's and then look at the new EU parliament. They are identical (regarding modern building techniques and materials),

Another coincidence? I doubt it.

[tannhaus]

You're attempting to misdirect the conversation. Are you going to attempt to refute the things I wrote? Are you going to admit that the stated reason for God doing these things is not plausible? That building a tower to heaven, for ancient man, would have been an impossible feat anyway? That languages develop over time and are still developing?

[tannhaus]

As far as Brueghel, are you now saying that his artist's rendition of the myth is "God's word" as well? Are you not admitting that when cannot build that structure up past a certain height without it a. crumbling or b. sinking? (incidentally, that rendition is consistent with the architecture of his time period...nothing more, nothing less). In Babylonian captivity, the Jews no doubt saw a tower without a completed top - Etemenanki. Scholars think that is the origin of the myth

[KinsmenRedeemed]

Oh come on man! That is so disingenuous and you know it. The point being made by citing Brueghels' painting is that the EU knows they are the revived Roman Empire spoken of in the Bible and they modeled their building after the tower depicted in the painting on purpose. As I said, they also have the woman riding the beast out front of the building and their motto is "many nations, one voice" against Gods' decree.

It's no coincidence at all. Better wake up because Jesus will be here soon.

[tannhaus]

Santa Claus will get here first, though!

[BlueFireWitch]

How is the EU like the Roman Empire? I want you to explain that to all of us. Because my boyfriend actually knows alot about the Roman Empire being a History major and all. So I'd like you to give us some examples of why they are so similar.

[tannhaus]

Actually, it was modeled after the 1958 secretariat building of UNESCO, located in Paris.

As far as the woman "riding the beast out of the front of the building", you are in error. Pictures of the Euro sculpture can be found on the net. For one, she is standing...not riding anything. For another, it's not a "beast" in front of her.

[tannhaus]

As far as "many nations, one voice", YOU are adding "against God's decree" onto it. It is nothing more than a symbol of what they are...many nations gathering together into a single organization. It's pretty silly how you're trying to twist it into something it's not.

You should really check your so-called facts.

[KinsmenRedeemed]

tannhaus

Your nitpicking man. "she is standing, not riding". Oh, well I guess that destroys my case then huh.

You say I am adding "against Gods' decree". Well, IT IS.

It's pretty silly how you are trying to deny the obvious because you don't want Bible prophecy to be accurate because it doesn't coincide with your current belief.

It's painfully clear to someone not in denial.

[BlueFireWitch]

How is it against "Gods decree"? There are alot of Europeans who are Christian, so that is a bold statement.

[tannhaus]

Say what you will...you're making your religion appear silly. You're saying things that anyone with a few minutes and intelligence can find out to be true. Then, when you're called on it, you're ignoring all the facts. Yes, there is someone in denial here...that their mythology isn't correct

[KinsmenRedeemed]

Yep. Your right tannhaus. Anyone can find this stuff if they want to.

I'll tell you the same thing I told BlueFire.

Peace and blessings to you man. I wish you all the best.

[BlueFireWitch]

The moral of the story matters not when it comes to the stories actual legitimacy. I can tell a good story with a good moral, but that doesn't make it true. For example, Star Wars was a good story, with a good moral and powerful archetypes. but it's far from true.

[FuRiMmErTrAuMeR]

i think you are one of the best teachers i've ever had. Thanks so much.

I learn more watching your videos than i do in my history classes at school.

Rock on girly!!

and i totally don't think you're ugly AT ALL. for serious.

[WesternWhiteWolf]

I notice a lot of the time on YT, when a woman makes a video, people will comment to compliment/insult the woman's looks, and rate the video according to only that. I'm really not surprised that when a guy disagrees with a woman, he calls her fat/ugly.

I'm really not surprised that TheAmazingAtheist did that very thing to you.

Let's hope that there's a Tartarus for guys like them to go to. And if people call you ugly/fat, they would have to condemn the majority of women as well. ;)

[BlueFireWitch]

The Amazing Atheist comment was a long while ago, but honestly, it sucked because I did have a bit of respect for him until them. Then he did that, and I was like, well he's a coward and has no respect for women. But, I guess I tend to read into things. I just found it funny that Saunders and TAA did it.

[WesternWhiteWolf]

Personally, I never have liked TAA. But yeah, it's pretty funny; they're on different sides of the spectrum in terms of faith, and yet their apparent misogyny gives them somthing in common. It's quite ironic.

[TheWellofMimir]

As if a woman has to be dressed in order to be chased.. lol.. (pun in case you missed it)

[BlueFireWitch]

LOL Chased/Chaste, good one.

[thuirthiawindsong]

I think that if simply seeing a woman causes sexual distraction for men, it is the men who are weak because they can't stop thinking about sex. It's not a woman's fault if men look at her in a sexual way.

[TheWellofMimir]

unless your at a strip bar.. but I still would agree that the men are weak and women hold the power in that situation..

[camillaheartsyou]

yes! men ARE weak. its been proven so many times at my school! women hold the power!

[BlueFireWitch]

I personally don't think there is a strong or weak sex. I think that we both have our strengths and weaknesses. Men have a strong sex drive and can be quite distracted by women, but this is also the case for many women. The difference being, it's more socially acceptable for men to outwardly express their sexual desire, especially over the course of history.

[KinsmenRedeemed]

Actually BlueFire.Star Wars can be detrimental and coincides with brainwashing and witchcraft. It suggests that there is just "the force" and that it is the person who is good or bad.

In reality God is the force and only he is truly "good". The rest of humanity is evil and our only way out is by repentance and accepting the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross and the pouring out of his blood.

Isaiah 53:5 ...and with his stripes we are healed.

It's not too late just yet but soon it will be.

[BlueFireWitch]

The Bible can also be detrimental and coincides with the advocation of slavery, human sacrifice and the subserviance of women. Also, please show me how Star Wars advocates brainwashing. Also please explain, without using unsubstantiated Bible verses, why Witchcraft is bad. Also, please explain to me how a God that kills millions and is admittedly jealous is truly "good."

[BlueFireWitch]

What is your proof that time is running out on my so called conversion? After all, believe is non-volitional. I cannot force myself to believe something that doesn't make logical sense to me. But, not even your god understands logic. Jesus said, believe in me and you shall receive eternal life. But if your God actually existed, he would know that it's impossible for some people to believe what doesn't make sense to them. So he's either cruel or stupid.

[KinsmenRedeemed]

BlueFire

You ask for a LOT of info to be covered here in such a small amount of characters. I might be here all night trying to disclose all of this in these small text boxes.

If you actually want me to post it all here in the open then I suppose I could give it a shot. But I will need a little time to find the right references in order to shorten the explanation.

Or I can send you a PM that will go into much deeper detail.

Let me know what you prefer. A LOT of info to disclose.

[BlueFireWitch]

It is you who assume so much to be truth without offering evidence. No, DO NOT PM ME. Make a video or post it here.

[BlueFireWitch]

If you can't post your argument in public, you've already lost.

[KinsmenRedeemed]

Yeah BlueFire. I'm real worried about posting in public. That's why I came this far with you guys.

I already said the other day I was done here and leaving in peace but I got replies that brought me back.

I don't think you honestly want to hear any of it anyways. There isn't anything you asked about that can't be found out by yourself anyways if you truly wanted the knowledge.

If you don't want the knowledge then I'll just say peace and blessings and be on my way.

[BlueFireWitch]

If you have a logical argument that's not based on propaganda or paranoid assumptions, then I'm very interested. I've never heard a Christian be able to argue their faith while using credible sources. It'd be most interesting if you did a video.

[gandhara496]

yeh its rediculous but it sure sounds that way, theyre the ones who are weak because they can't stop thinking about it

[tannhaus]

I personally don't think sexual attraction has anything to do with strength or weakness. It's natural. It takes man to come along and decide natural urges are somehow evil and giving in to them (being a natural being) is somehow weakness. The last time I checked, that would be called perverting nature/the natural man.

[thuirthiawindsong]

Actually, I was just saying that it made them the weak ones from the Christian standpoint on sex. In truth, I agree that neither gender is stronger or weaker and that sexual attraction does not determine strength. It was just one point I was trying to make about how the Christian demonization of women makes no sense even from their own standpoint. Sorry for the confusion.

[BlueFireWitch]

Oh. OK. :P Sometimes comments are hard to interpret.

[Mysticblue1212]

He isn't the only one that hates women. Kassie Dill seems to hate women as well. I pointed that out in the in my last video to her. I also pointed out that they really don't give men credit because they go on about women leading men to sin and their down fall. Like they can only be lead around by their nose and their dicks. Therefore make women pay for what they do and in many cases blame them for what they haven't done and yet do nothing but make excuses for men.

[ginkiba3]

Just because a guy acts like a woman doesn't make him weak.

Being weak makes someone weak.

I've seen men that are weak, men that are strong. But they are still MEN no matter how they act or what they do.

The gender is irrelevant.

[thuirthiawindsong]

I think you're pretty, BlueFireWitch.

[EthicalRust]

Men forgot that its an equal footing! This is why Lilith divorced Adam (his first wife)

[gaaraloveofyaoi]

i agree with you. women and men are on equal ground and will always be. please keep up what your doing

[nargargole]

if you can get hold of the Great Cosmic Mother of All by the late and great genius Monica Sjoo - and her artwork is to die for!

Monica was tall, big boned Nordic beauty; she had a hard life, her two sons died and she died of breast cancer, but she had such spiritual power, amazing and wonderful person

sexual greed can become predatory

[nargargole]

hates loves women layers of onion hates loves ises sinks and sacred profane, smears menstral blood over her lover and the baby is covered with blood and shit and sweat and soon in silky ribbins of blue and green

we are eating onions

[AsheIsTheRaven]

Personally I think you're one of the most beautiful girls in the world, both physically and mentally.

[BlueFireWitch]

FTW! Thanks.

[rainbowpagan]

vary true your a smart person and I find women equal to men and I don't think your fat look at me I am fat and it is a shame how the only way a man can win a battle is by useing ingernt names I think your a vary smart women and way to go on losing 40 LBS

[shadowsong92]

It's unfortunate that some men are stuck in this way of thinking. I wonder whether it's caused by modern religious media or simply because of the way they were raised. I guess it would just be better to try and decrease this progression of idiots by giving obvious examples of intelligent woman such as you, BlueFireWitch.

Thanks for the video~~~~ Blessed be.

[lecithinacid]

my husband said you were cute , just now when he walked into the room ^_^

[PaganTears2010]

Blur I Agree With You ...100%

[DodgerFan1988]

This Saunders and his 12th century line of thinking needs to go back to the cave from which he came.

[whitewolfheathen]

so what if Saunders hates women his hate is only perpetuating itself because you are calling fire to it.  He is a voice in sea of voices do you really think dignifying him with hate is going to solve the problem? You also show a degree of hate towards Muslims by saying that he is no better than them as if they are something to loathe. That goes against your tenet of universal love that you say that every pagan should have. Love and hate is two sides of the same coin.

[hyuugaamida]

Considering Muslims aren't exactly known for being women's rights activists, the comparison fits...

[whitewolfheathen]

Some Muslims do horrible things in the name of faith, but attacking them with the same fire that they perpetuate is not the answer, plus BFW is being hypocritical when she pleas for universal love but then attacks people with hate. If she truly promoted universal love then she wouldn't be a bigot that she accuses others of being.

[BlueFireWitch]

You don't understand what I meant for universal love, so please don't try to interpret it for me. Universal love is utilitarian notion of Plato's Good. That we strive for the greater good, which may result in sometimes harming in order to reach the good. If you watched one of my videos explaining it, you wouldn't have made yourself look silly with this comment.

[BlueFireWitch]

If Saunders gains nothing from this so be it, but others that watch this video may not realize that they say some of the same things Saunders does or similiar and still believe that women should be equal. Our society, not just Christianity, is to blame for women being portrayed as inferior.

[zacot12345]

There was also an extremist Christian group in the colonial times called the Shakers. Their primary rule was: NO SEX!!! Needless to say, the group quickly became extict due to obvious reasons. This is what would happen if demonization of sex from Christians continues.

[MagickalHummingbird]

Zacot ~~SHAKERS Are Interesting! They Are Nothing Like Xtians! SHAKERS Worship The Goddess & Their Ecstatic Singing Is To Goddess! They Dance/Twirl Wildly At Their Gatherings In Deep Trance! They Speak With Spirits & Do Divination & Are A MYSTICAL Sect! Only Their MONASTIC Houses Have Female & Male Celibates ~Like Hindu & Buddhist Ashrams! Some SHAKERS Choose Mystical Celibacy. Ann Lee Was Mystic Oracle Leader Of SHAKERS! They Craft Witches Brooms & Wood Furniture & Grow&Make Everything Needed!

[zacot12345]

indeed, my knowledge was from a friend. Now I'm going to research this further. Apologies to any Shakers I may have offended.

[masticina]

Ah saunders

Really what do we respect of him these days. I may hope that he hasn't hit his children yet..

[QueenBoudiccea]

I loved this; went along very well with a lot of the things I've been studying. What's the title/author of that book you mentioned?

And at 9:30-10:20 (approximately): I am sure that if these men considered you outrageously attractive you would be called a slut/whore etc. I have gotten both; the fat and ugly, and the slut/whore. Because of the objectification, it doesn't seem like these people can view women outside of that stupid dichotomy.

[wakingribbons]

"fat" and "ugly" is the coward's way out. if someone would call me either, I laugh in their face.

[zbasarab]

excellent vid

[brentoneccles]

I don't think he's going to be able to respond to this. You spoke too intelligently.