I have had serve pain in my joint for about 8 years now, I have had pain relief injection under an xray but they didnt take the pain away. From time to time the pain gets so bad it feel like its dislocation i get a terrible sharp pain that is so bad I cannot walk , it makes me limp. The pain has got so bad i once nearly passed out. Its a terrible sharp pain that sticks in me. Is it possible that it can get dislocated then go back into place ??
i was just told by my doctor that the cause of my pain is a si dysfunction, i will be starting physical therapy the following week. Im a dancer its my life i use my hips more than anything, im terrified i wont be able to dance anymore, is it possible to fully heal the si joint dyfunction, please just let me know anyone who knows enough about si dysfunctions
In your opinion would you agree with usage of 'sacro wedgie'? I've got one and it feels good to use it..I hope it may help towards my uneven hips. YOu don't think it's damaging though? By the way, I've seen a chiropractor for so long and spent so much, I find the one's I've seen focus on one thing rather than holistically at muscules, excercizes etc...in my experience they've just done subluxation adjustments and not helped me look at why, why there is an imbalance or stiffness.
I have left SIJ problems (2 years), and have been diagnosed with AS (ankylosing spondilitis) (2 months). What kind of treatment would you suggest? What kind of aerobics? (due to the fact that that AS is causing chronic SI inflamentation and (as I believe) posterior pelvis tilt). I am just finishing the neuromascular treatment here in Slovenia which is so far shown to be helpful (the doctor has found strong tilt and twist to the left in the region of pelvis, lubar-torkoal spine,ribs and neck)
my sl joint on my left side started bothering me a month ago so i quit sports and it went away and when i started doing sports again the pain came back and i really dont wanna give up being physically active
Holistic Sam, I've had problems with my SI joint for over 20 years and it is getting much worse. The last two flareups caused such severe muscle spasms that I could not walk and had to be hospitalized. When the MD injected my SI joint under xray, he said my spine was severely twisted. Another chronic condition I have is urinary retention which I think may be related. Physical therapy helps, but the flareups always return. I am only 43 and otherwise in good health. What do you suggest?
Its important to recognize the relationship between internal organs, muscles, and joints. We never REALLY know which is the root cause, thus its critical to address all 3. I suggest finding a VERY good neuromuscular massage therapist to help, and a finely tuned corrective exercise program like my DVD set to address those areas, as well as a good nutrition approach like Metabolic Typing.
people died or i should say KILLED by medical doctors but i haven't heard anyone died over the Chiropractor's table yet.
i know that some people do have bad experiences with Chiropractors but still not merely as bad medical doctors treatments. You must be a medical doctor that had been sued by your patient for the malpractice and lost, right?
@massagebyyoon, there was a chiropractor who paralyzed a man in Davenport, IA a few years ago. The guy walked in to the office, and left a quadriplegic.
well, they don't go to med school. what medical training do they have? from the very beginning of Chiropractic it has always was dubious. Hans Kraus who was a medical doctor stated that Chiropractors made Kennedy's problem worse. That's a FACT. The claims of chiropractors and their supposed science are more than dubious. I visited one 10 years ago, I caught the quack in a blatant lie. they go so far as to phony up X-rays. I caught him, called him on it, yet he was a pillar of the community
Further generalizations and assumptions, such as medical doctors get training in issues such as back pain. I don't demonize ANY health profession, and in doing so you will obviously miss the volumes of practitioners that DO help people. I'm done with this conversion, as it is NOT useful to people on this board, and there are just too many counter examples. Lastly, I am NOT a medical doctor either, but you can feel free to go to my site and see the MDs that give me testimonials.
Thats an interesting OPINION. You may wish to see exactly how much quackery occurs in medicine, especially since most of the pharmaceuticals prescribed are based on bullcrap research provided by institutions that are funded by the drug industry. Adjusting a spine is far less dangerous... Who again are the "hucksters"?
I was misdiagnosed with an SI issue, but I KNEW it wasn't this - because a left adductor was atrophying. I kept 'nagging' my 'doctors' - for over 8 months -only to find the cause of the pain/weakness was a cancer tumour pressing on the obturator nerve. Now the SI pain is back due to weakness, and I am looking to rehab my unstable SI joint again. This has been helpful. ( Note: It was my Chiro, NOT my Doctor who suggested the nerve conductor test that led to investigate for tumours!)
Thanks for the education. I haven't been able to properly identify what the aching and sometimes acute pain in my lower back/ glut area has been. After seeing this great video, I believe that this is definitely what I am suffering from. Would it be possible to cause this problem by doing a high intensity exercise including jumps lunges ect. How long can a person expect to be in rehab phase before getting back to an exercise regimen?
I don't know if I would agree that it is only in "extreme" situations that chiropractic is requires. Most patients with SI joint dysfunction need manipulation and rehabilitation.
Of course every practitioner has preferences and differences in opinion, but I don't recommend high velocity adjustments to chronic SIJ patients. I believe along the lines of Richard DonTigny's work, in that the long SI ligament is lax, and HVTs may further create instability. I'm sure there are many cases in which this adjustment works well, but I don't do them, and I get along just fine helping clients with self mobilizations and corrective stretching/exercises.
Chiropractor is a doctor wh ocan diagnose. A doctor is someone who uses proper technique to each condition. Not every patient really needs adjustments. Some of conditions require more specific treatment.
Adjustments can stimulate too many receptors that override pain receptors and results in GREAT RELIEF in SHORT PERIOD but the problem comes back over and over again. You feel like you do a great job, but in reality the same problem comes back, and it means you do not fix THE CAUSE.
Someone with the Sacroiliac Joint pain would they be able to do the splits or raise their legs high or be able to do kickboxing? With the proper treatment would they be able to move their hips better over time? Or will they always have limtied rang of moation in the hip area forever no matter what?
Yikes. That is the LAST thing they should do until fully stable. I don't even give lunges to chronic SIJ pain patients. A lot of corrective work and strengthening needs to be done in some cases just to stay pain free. It all depends on the case, and of course, what it causing the issue.
Read the work of Thomas Griner on hyperonic or spastic muscles at Neurosoma. I am not allowed to type dot com because of youtube restrictions but if you go to Neurosoma you know what you will find the info you need to understand your problem. Griner also wrote a book called What Is Really Wrong With You. Google it and read it.
Thank you for this information! How does a PT or doc diagnose whether the SI joint is "out" or if it's just unstable due to muscle imbalances? What would be the 'dead giveaway' for me if it was out? I had my third child in May and have suffered with this pain for while. It's increasing, particularly when I go up stairs.
Its usually a constellation of things. When measuring pelvic tilt, one side will be for example 10 degrees, and the other 15 degrees, pain on putting full weight on the subluxed side, excessive tone in the lower back on the side coupled with decreased function in the lower abdominals on same side, etc.
Additionally, Richard DonTigny, PT, says that excessive psoas tension is a give away for SI joint subluxation. I have found this to be true in many cases.
@HolisticSam Thanks again for helping. Sounds like the joint IS dislocated because I do have psoas tension. So do I see a chiropractor, PT or doc (orthopaedic), specialist or other?? Will a manipulation be the best course? Long term prognosis after re-adjustment? Really, appreciate your feedback. I think you have shed more light on this issue in a few days than the docs I've seen over the past year and a half!
It can be either of those. That is the "chicken or egg". There are many factors involved here such as the degree of instability in the joint, and how bad the muscular imbalances are. I highly suggest finding a CHEK Practitioner in your area.
And what are "muscular imbalances"? What causes them? Muscle spasm. What causes muscles spasm? Lactic acid trapped in the spindle cases that causes a bad signal to be relayed to the cerebellum. Cerebellum gets weak signal from feedback nerves. Weak signal means the cerebellum will contract muscles and they will not relax until this signal gets back on track. All this can be found in Thomas Griner's work at Neurosoma do you know what.
I don't know if you are advertising, but this is simply a generalization. Muscle imbalance is a descriptive term, not the reason. Imbalanced exercise programs, muscle fiber adhesions, fascial restrictions, etc. and reflex phenomena are all potential causes for muscle imbalances. There is not "fix all" for them. What works in the MAJORITY of cases is corrective exercises and stretching. The rest is all based on the individual.
Dysbalances do cause problems in the sacro. joint. I had an accident 18 years ago. I have incredibly much scar tissue in the left side of the body... My torso is asymmatrical and very soon there was an arthrosis in this joint - and 13 years afterwards incredible pain... When I'm sitting... If I ignore it too long also lying in bed... Because of this tissue my the pelvis and shoulder are in a higher position. And there is a rotation - the left side is more in front...
I just found out my SI joint is messed up. I have a choripractor and a deep tissue specialist and I am also having back pain what can I do to get my SI joint back normal?
good video. I think i have SI problems how do i know? i am getting pretty sure that is what the source of my pain is. The only problem is i am an athletic male and gonna do football, basketball, and track and wonder how long will this take me out because it's not that painful right now? and what can i do to treat it?
thanks for the video Sam. I've been suffering from SI pain on my left side for many years. Im a young very athletic male and was wondering if it this form of injury is typical for young males? Most others I've met with this problem are normally very lethargic and/or older. Do you see any out of town patients or know anyone in the St. Louis area?
Can anyone tell me a list of names of surgeons who perform the surgery in Australia? And if not the USA/Canada? It is very difficult to find in Australia but I will travel to America if necessary.
My spine mri is normal but I had a serious fall and severe pain around the si joint ever since, $45000 spent on all other treatments over 8 years but little improvement. Can not sit down or lie down or do a host of other tasks. Just want to get my life back.
They are based in atlanta. She works directly with a physcian who specializes in this surgery and actually helped developed a new and progressive surgical procedure to the si joint that is less invasive and reservable...it allows normal movement by not fusing the joint but using anchors to stablize the joint.
The QL is quite important, as are all of the core muscles. The problem comes with anterior pelvic tilt, which "hikes" the hip. In this scenario, the QL becomes overactive during the gait cycle, which can contribute to inappropriate amount of forces through the SI joint.
I had asked because, my physical therapist had mentioned that my QL could be unstable or irritated from too much stair climbing. I am not sure I understand. But Thanks again for the info.
Hey Sam, Is their a good exercise guide for balancing the SI joint?
JDilla2812 2 weeks ago
I have had serve pain in my joint for about 8 years now, I have had pain relief injection under an xray but they didnt take the pain away. From time to time the pain gets so bad it feel like its dislocation i get a terrible sharp pain that is so bad I cannot walk , it makes me limp. The pain has got so bad i once nearly passed out. Its a terrible sharp pain that sticks in me. Is it possible that it can get dislocated then go back into place ??
MultiKez2010 1 month ago
Get yourself a clip-on microphone for your lapel.
Most of the people with pain in the are you are saying are usually hard of hearing and your low-volume production makes hearing you very difficult.
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Cheers.
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CushionOfWealth 1 month ago
i was just told by my doctor that the cause of my pain is a si dysfunction, i will be starting physical therapy the following week. Im a dancer its my life i use my hips more than anything, im terrified i wont be able to dance anymore, is it possible to fully heal the si joint dyfunction, please just let me know anyone who knows enough about si dysfunctions
BassBitch420 2 months ago
In your opinion would you agree with usage of 'sacro wedgie'? I've got one and it feels good to use it..I hope it may help towards my uneven hips. YOu don't think it's damaging though? By the way, I've seen a chiropractor for so long and spent so much, I find the one's I've seen focus on one thing rather than holistically at muscules, excercizes etc...in my experience they've just done subluxation adjustments and not helped me look at why, why there is an imbalance or stiffness.
hhbb79 2 months ago
Hopefully someone can answer me, I have a problem with my SI joints, however one side seems to poke out. What exactly can this imply?
skipskops 2 months ago
I have left SIJ problems (2 years), and have been diagnosed with AS (ankylosing spondilitis) (2 months). What kind of treatment would you suggest? What kind of aerobics? (due to the fact that that AS is causing chronic SI inflamentation and (as I believe) posterior pelvis tilt). I am just finishing the neuromascular treatment here in Slovenia which is so far shown to be helpful (the doctor has found strong tilt and twist to the left in the region of pelvis, lubar-torkoal spine,ribs and neck)
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my sl joint on my left side started bothering me a month ago so i quit sports and it went away and when i started doing sports again the pain came back and i really dont wanna give up being physically active
Jxkilla 4 months ago
Holistic Sam, I've had problems with my SI joint for over 20 years and it is getting much worse. The last two flareups caused such severe muscle spasms that I could not walk and had to be hospitalized. When the MD injected my SI joint under xray, he said my spine was severely twisted. Another chronic condition I have is urinary retention which I think may be related. Physical therapy helps, but the flareups always return. I am only 43 and otherwise in good health. What do you suggest?
wonderwendy1968 6 months ago
@wonderwendy1968,
Its important to recognize the relationship between internal organs, muscles, and joints. We never REALLY know which is the root cause, thus its critical to address all 3. I suggest finding a VERY good neuromuscular massage therapist to help, and a finely tuned corrective exercise program like my DVD set to address those areas, as well as a good nutrition approach like Metabolic Typing.
HolisticSam 6 months ago
@nikto45,
people died or i should say KILLED by medical doctors but i haven't heard anyone died over the Chiropractor's table yet.
i know that some people do have bad experiences with Chiropractors but still not merely as bad medical doctors treatments. You must be a medical doctor that had been sued by your patient for the malpractice and lost, right?
massagebyyoon 6 months ago
@massagebyyoon, there was a chiropractor who paralyzed a man in Davenport, IA a few years ago. The guy walked in to the office, and left a quadriplegic.
RHO1953 6 months ago
Yea just have to pimp out my email address for information........zz
hbeezey 9 months ago
well, they don't go to med school. what medical training do they have? from the very beginning of Chiropractic it has always was dubious. Hans Kraus who was a medical doctor stated that Chiropractors made Kennedy's problem worse. That's a FACT. The claims of chiropractors and their supposed science are more than dubious. I visited one 10 years ago, I caught the quack in a blatant lie. they go so far as to phony up X-rays. I caught him, called him on it, yet he was a pillar of the community
nikto45 9 months ago
@nikto45,
Further generalizations and assumptions, such as medical doctors get training in issues such as back pain. I don't demonize ANY health profession, and in doing so you will obviously miss the volumes of practitioners that DO help people. I'm done with this conversion, as it is NOT useful to people on this board, and there are just too many counter examples. Lastly, I am NOT a medical doctor either, but you can feel free to go to my site and see the MDs that give me testimonials.
HolisticSam 9 months ago
Read Dr. Hans Kraus' work. He helped President Kennedy with back pain. Chiropractors are not medical doctors. they are hucksters.
nikto45 10 months ago
@nikto45,
Thats an interesting OPINION. You may wish to see exactly how much quackery occurs in medicine, especially since most of the pharmaceuticals prescribed are based on bullcrap research provided by institutions that are funded by the drug industry. Adjusting a spine is far less dangerous... Who again are the "hucksters"?
HolisticSam 10 months ago
@nikto45,
Interesting generalization, but not true. Thats like saying "all lawyers are crooks", or "all medical doctors are idiots".
HolisticSam 9 months ago
I was misdiagnosed with an SI issue, but I KNEW it wasn't this - because a left adductor was atrophying. I kept 'nagging' my 'doctors' - for over 8 months -only to find the cause of the pain/weakness was a cancer tumour pressing on the obturator nerve. Now the SI pain is back due to weakness, and I am looking to rehab my unstable SI joint again. This has been helpful. ( Note: It was my Chiro, NOT my Doctor who suggested the nerve conductor test that led to investigate for tumours!)
20LookInside12 10 months ago
Thanks for the education. I haven't been able to properly identify what the aching and sometimes acute pain in my lower back/ glut area has been. After seeing this great video, I believe that this is definitely what I am suffering from. Would it be possible to cause this problem by doing a high intensity exercise including jumps lunges ect. How long can a person expect to be in rehab phase before getting back to an exercise regimen?
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I don't know if I would agree that it is only in "extreme" situations that chiropractic is requires. Most patients with SI joint dysfunction need manipulation and rehabilitation.
PureChiropractic 1 year ago
@PureChiropractic,
Of course every practitioner has preferences and differences in opinion, but I don't recommend high velocity adjustments to chronic SIJ patients. I believe along the lines of Richard DonTigny's work, in that the long SI ligament is lax, and HVTs may further create instability. I'm sure there are many cases in which this adjustment works well, but I don't do them, and I get along just fine helping clients with self mobilizations and corrective stretching/exercises.
HolisticSam 1 year ago
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wonderfultiger 1 year ago
Chiropractor is a doctor wh ocan diagnose. A doctor is someone who uses proper technique to each condition. Not every patient really needs adjustments. Some of conditions require more specific treatment.
Adjustments can stimulate too many receptors that override pain receptors and results in GREAT RELIEF in SHORT PERIOD but the problem comes back over and over again. You feel like you do a great job, but in reality the same problem comes back, and it means you do not fix THE CAUSE.
wonderfultiger 1 year ago
@wonderfultiger WELL SAID my friend. Well Said.
guitarpro23 1 year ago
Someone with the Sacroiliac Joint pain would they be able to do the splits or raise their legs high or be able to do kickboxing? With the proper treatment would they be able to move their hips better over time? Or will they always have limtied rang of moation in the hip area forever no matter what?
Teddymonster11 1 year ago
@Teddymonster11,
Yikes. That is the LAST thing they should do until fully stable. I don't even give lunges to chronic SIJ pain patients. A lot of corrective work and strengthening needs to be done in some cases just to stay pain free. It all depends on the case, and of course, what it causing the issue.
HolisticSam 1 year ago
I was in a car accident 2 months ago and dislocate my SI joint.. I'm still on crutches.
sarah1573 1 year ago
Read the work of Thomas Griner on hyperonic or spastic muscles at Neurosoma. I am not allowed to type dot com because of youtube restrictions but if you go to Neurosoma you know what you will find the info you need to understand your problem. Griner also wrote a book called What Is Really Wrong With You. Google it and read it.
sambking 1 year ago
try Prolotherapy
works miracles
492333 1 year ago
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lb20101000 1 year ago
Thank you for this information! How does a PT or doc diagnose whether the SI joint is "out" or if it's just unstable due to muscle imbalances? What would be the 'dead giveaway' for me if it was out? I had my third child in May and have suffered with this pain for while. It's increasing, particularly when I go up stairs.
lb20101000 1 year ago
@lb20101000 ,
Its usually a constellation of things. When measuring pelvic tilt, one side will be for example 10 degrees, and the other 15 degrees, pain on putting full weight on the subluxed side, excessive tone in the lower back on the side coupled with decreased function in the lower abdominals on same side, etc.
HolisticSam 1 year ago
@lb20101000,
Additionally, Richard DonTigny, PT, says that excessive psoas tension is a give away for SI joint subluxation. I have found this to be true in many cases.
HolisticSam 1 year ago
@HolisticSam Thanks again for helping. Sounds like the joint IS dislocated because I do have psoas tension. So do I see a chiropractor, PT or doc (orthopaedic), specialist or other?? Will a manipulation be the best course? Long term prognosis after re-adjustment? Really, appreciate your feedback. I think you have shed more light on this issue in a few days than the docs I've seen over the past year and a half!
Jiggyjoose 1 year ago
@Jiggyjoose,
It can be either of those. That is the "chicken or egg". There are many factors involved here such as the degree of instability in the joint, and how bad the muscular imbalances are. I highly suggest finding a CHEK Practitioner in your area.
HolisticSam 1 year ago
@HolisticSam
And what are "muscular imbalances"? What causes them? Muscle spasm. What causes muscles spasm? Lactic acid trapped in the spindle cases that causes a bad signal to be relayed to the cerebellum. Cerebellum gets weak signal from feedback nerves. Weak signal means the cerebellum will contract muscles and they will not relax until this signal gets back on track. All this can be found in Thomas Griner's work at Neurosoma do you know what.
sambking 1 year ago
@sambking,
I don't know if you are advertising, but this is simply a generalization. Muscle imbalance is a descriptive term, not the reason. Imbalanced exercise programs, muscle fiber adhesions, fascial restrictions, etc. and reflex phenomena are all potential causes for muscle imbalances. There is not "fix all" for them. What works in the MAJORITY of cases is corrective exercises and stretching. The rest is all based on the individual.
HolisticSam 1 year ago
Dysbalances do cause problems in the sacro. joint. I had an accident 18 years ago. I have incredibly much scar tissue in the left side of the body... My torso is asymmatrical and very soon there was an arthrosis in this joint - and 13 years afterwards incredible pain... When I'm sitting... If I ignore it too long also lying in bed... Because of this tissue my the pelvis and shoulder are in a higher position. And there is a rotation - the left side is more in front...
Well
schokolade975 1 year ago
I just found out my SI joint is messed up. I have a choripractor and a deep tissue specialist and I am also having back pain what can I do to get my SI joint back normal?
RockStar45177 1 year ago
you are the man. thanks
whatimgettin81 1 year ago
good video. I think i have SI problems how do i know? i am getting pretty sure that is what the source of my pain is. The only problem is i am an athletic male and gonna do football, basketball, and track and wonder how long will this take me out because it's not that painful right now? and what can i do to treat it?
145bobby 1 year ago
thanks for the video Sam. I've been suffering from SI pain on my left side for many years. Im a young very athletic male and was wondering if it this form of injury is typical for young males? Most others I've met with this problem are normally very lethargic and/or older. Do you see any out of town patients or know anyone in the St. Louis area?
arfx3 1 year ago
@arfx3
SI joint problems are very common actually, and often overlooked aspect of lower back pain. Yes, I do see out of town patients. Send me an email.
HolisticSam 1 year ago
I require SI joint fusion surgery.
Can anyone tell me a list of names of surgeons who perform the surgery in Australia? And if not the USA/Canada? It is very difficult to find in Australia but I will travel to America if necessary.
My spine mri is normal but I had a serious fall and severe pain around the si joint ever since, $45000 spent on all other treatments over 8 years but little improvement. Can not sit down or lie down or do a host of other tasks. Just want to get my life back.
n4979338 1 year ago
@n4979338 @n4979338 @n4979338 contact vicki sims.
They are based in atlanta. She works directly with a physcian who specializes in this surgery and actually helped developed a new and progressive surgical procedure to the si joint that is less invasive and reservable...it allows normal movement by not fusing the joint but using anchors to stablize the joint.
arfx3 1 year ago
@n4979338 Gainesville physical therapy 770.297.1700 ask for David Meznick ...hes a little more thorough than Vicki but shes cool too.
arfx3 1 year ago
you rule holistic sam. thank you for the video post. this is great.
SaigonPenn 2 years ago
When SIJ goes "out" it sure causes a lot of other problems, not just pain in SIJ. And usually the pain is on the other SIJ than which is "out".
parantunut 2 years ago
Sam,
Thank you for this information.
cche7 2 years ago
Very informative. I have a question is the QL involved with this type of dysfunction. If not what causes pain in the QL..or "hip hiker" muscle?
Spanisheyes27 2 years ago
The QL is quite important, as are all of the core muscles. The problem comes with anterior pelvic tilt, which "hikes" the hip. In this scenario, the QL becomes overactive during the gait cycle, which can contribute to inappropriate amount of forces through the SI joint.
HolisticSam 2 years ago
Thank you Sam,
I had asked because, my physical therapist had mentioned that my QL could be unstable or irritated from too much stair climbing. I am not sure I understand. But Thanks again for the info.
Spanisheyes27 2 years ago
Yep. The QL will lift the hip, particularly when there is not enough hip flexibility, or a faulty movement program when stepping on the climber.
HolisticSam 2 years ago