Because my acute pain is fine... I can tolerate almost any acute pain.. because I know that there is an end. Chronic pain is different.. it can rob a person's soul. How do you treat that when doctors don't want to treat people?? Nor find out the cause of Fibro and they just turn their cheek? It's not a psychological problem. I would love to hear ONE doctor whom suffers from Fibromyalgia and please tell us what is their treatment plan and to be open and honest. I bet it's different from ours.
And to the doctor..... there is no way that we are "hyper-sensitive" to pain and pain stimuli. I live with pain everyday. I can't wake up without being in pain. I'm not hypersensitive, I have deep chronic stabbing pain and I have a huge tolerance to pain. My dentist says that he barely has to numb me and that he told me that I had a huge pain tolerance. That his other patients would be complaining. Here's a question.. How does the hypersensitivity affect acute pain v/s chronic pain??
@OutsideTheBox28 I agree with you and that's what I was going to say. Fibromyalgia is a "newer" diagnosis and they are learning more about it and the clinical manifestations and causes... Open your eyes... there's got to be a huge correlation between all the preventable chemicals in our bodies and Fibro. Look up "Gulf War Syndrome" and the found symptoms caused from heated Aspartame from the desert heat. They mimic and are almost identical to the symptoms of Fibromyalgia.
@mya3772 Looked it up, that is very interesting. All the symptoms are very similar. I really think that syndromes and disorders such as this are signs that there is something wrong with the environment and not the people who have this. My body feels sick, like I am having an allergic reaction to the outside world. We as a culture need to stop looking so much at the individual and look at where that person is coming from.
"Echinacea - which is an immune stimulant... that's in a lot of toothpaste & mouth washes." = SHE IS TALKING OUT HER ASS.
Echinacea is NOT an ingredient in Johnson & Johnson's Crest, NOT in Colgate Palmolive's Colgate, NOT in Church & Dwight's Aim nor Closeup.
That's the 4 major toothpaste brands that dominate the US market. NONE include echinacea. Only a few specialty brands like BioForce & A.Vogel include echinacea - and the consumer use of those 2 brands is TINY compared to Crest & Colgate.
I am a recovered fibromyalgic who had to leave the care of the medical profession to discover the cause and cure of this horrific condition, without drugs. I completely understand this illness from the inside and back out again, and am living proof that you can cure this and take back your life! Please do not give up from failed hope. Keep going!!!
Valerie Lumley, Recovered Fibromyalgia and author of
"Curing Chronic Fibromyalgia - Choosing What Works"
I have fibromyalgia and it really hurts. Why is she even talking about toothpaste? I really don't think they will find a cure for this cronic disease. You really don't know how it feels till you have it.
@scotcandy2001 I have it too and I understand why she is talking about toothpaste if you ever start researching whats in our health products you would be surprised how many toxic and potentially toxic things are in them I didn't worry about that stuff much until 1) I started working at a natural grocery store in health and beauty and had to do the research and 2) I suddenly had a reaction to MSG for the first time in my life leading me to find that with fibro u can be sensitive to many things
There is no medical hope and will never be. Only remedial treatment can help. Medical help was always misunderstood by doctors and they knows that. You are also developing stomach ache, extreme fatigue, diorrhoea or constipation, poor memory and concentration, sleepless nights, waking up just as you went to bed? Do you really want to get help? No tricks, no scam. Just follow the link and get the answer you need.
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so i truly feel that fibromyalgia is more of a psychological thing, rather than pain sensory, or any of that nonsense. i feel that i'm tense all that time. i'll realize even when i'm laying down, i won't be holding my body completely relaxed on the bed, i'll be rigid & have to force myself to sink in, & my muscles to relax. i KNOW what mine stemmed from. ppl have different triggers. meditation to relax ur entire body is a great help actually. meditation helped me more than anything has! try it
It is NOT a psychological thing! I deal with the pain every day and it is not psychological. Apparently, you don't have it or you wouldn't be saying that.
what came first the egg or the chicken, fibro people get depressed and angry AFTER fibro, the never ending pain and tiredness with no solutions make's patients angry and depressed as they learn to deal with it, it's the same thing with migraines, migraines suffers turn depressed AFTER months to years AFTER the unset, same with cancer. 1 out of three women admit to being raped, many uncounted, so does 1 out of every 3 or more, women have fibro?
actually women account for a large percentage, much larger than males, for having fibromyalgia. perhaps there is a legitimate connection. do you know how high the toll is for abuse against women primarily? we're the most discriminated against. always have been. above race. i, personally, am not angry... i'm okay. as i mentioned, i learned how to deal with said events in my life quite properly. to sum it up. forgive others. forgive yourself. trust God. and all will be well.
i fear you're not understanding what i'm saying. of course it manifests itself physically. that's the point. we grow weary of suffering mentally and subject it to our physical state. so YES, you're right... but it stems forth from emotions and how u deal w stress. notice when you're angry, or stressed... doesn't it get worse?? if you have fibro it should. i pray that you'll be released of your anger and painful memories, etc. & that u understand ur not the only one.
I'm not angry at you. You took my comment out of context. I was just expressing that fibromyalgia was not a psychological element. I'm sorry that you are in pain. It must have been terrible for you to go through that type of abuse, that's terrible. I'm a pre-law student and I can't stand it when people hurt others. We need more laws enacted to better protect women and children. I just wanted to clarify that I'm not angry at you. Have a nice day!
You need to watch the series by Dr. Klimas on xmrv virus. This IS NOT a psychological thing, never was. Yes we become hypersensitive to nearly everything, you need to do more research to give yourself some relief.
i don't need to... what i do works great for me! thanks anyway!! perception is a powerful thing. i think people want something to argue about. i was simply stating some observations among my 7 years of agony... and how i deal w it... GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR OWN WAY OF DEALING WITH IT!!!
My point is, making statements such as yours are doing a complete disservice to, are disrespectful of each of us that suffer from this disease, along with too many uneducated medical practioners. Ignorance is not bliss.
how is my "theory" and my sharing of my personal "concept of fibromyalgia" disrespectful in any way? wait... i know, you're the only person who has it. that's it! i figured it out!! my 7 years of pain is all because my intolerance altho i have a huge pain tolerance. you've pin-pointed it! genius! haha! you are a true fibro sufferer... they're so touchy. Ignorance... lets talk about ignorance, since you obviously read what i wrote in the wrong light. your intelligence is really showing, buddy.
now again i'll say, I PERSONALLY FEEL AS THOUGH MY ONSET BEGAN AROUND THE SAME TIME AS A HUUUUUGE TRIPLE DOSE OF TRAGEDY. I FELT LIKE I WAS WALKING ON EGGSHELLS CONSTANTLY, LIKE MY BODY WAS TENSE BECAUSE MY MIND COULD NOT TAKE THE EMOTIONAL ABUSE, IT THEREFORE SUBJECTED IT TO MY PHYSICAL STATE BECAUSE I CAN AND DO HAVE A HIGH TOLERANCE TO PAIN. I THEN LEARNED TO EASE THE TENSION BY MEDITATING AND RELAXING MY MIND AND BODY!!! WORD TO YA MOTHER!! remind me how that's insulting again..? or try it!
Hi. I also feel that this is what happened to me after a triple dose of traumatic events. It's like my mind had to be so strong to be able to deal with them that my body took all the stress and clapped out on me.
now you should stop trying to start cyber fights, because it makes you look pretty ridiculous... i do believe all humans are entitled to their opinions and just as entitled to share them, especially on the world wide web. you're disrespecting me... i haven't pin-pointed you out of a crowd while you're sharing your opinion. you obviously have a lot of anger to deal with. so deal with it, and stop harassing people on cyber space for sharing their opinions. its lame. i actually do have a life.
how do you know it isn't great for you? have you tried it?? if not... don't knock it... or just get hooked on hydrocodone... whichever works for you (and the government manufactured drug companies... which is what and who ur really helping... the ones who sell people this fibro BS!!!) i'm not fighting a battle. i've come to acceptance with what i have... no battle here.
and no there's not a better way to get my point across. because ignorance reigns supreme. you have to do it in a dramatic sequence on youtube... otherwise you're not taken seriously... so it seems. or people just talk crap... and don't choose to shut up and listen for once in their stubborn lives.
no no no... it is not an overreaction to pain. i can take pain. i've always been able to. i have been one tough chicka. not afraid of pain either. never been a whiney person. i'm the person who is very outgoing. when i got a tattoo, it was actually relief!! compared to fibromyalgia. people consider that pain horrendous. fibromyalgia patients are people who take stress into their physical body. there is so much energy in the world due to over population. we're nice ppl who dn't let out our anger
Doesnt it have something to do with the Guifenisein protocol? There is something in commercial toothpaste that is bad for Fibro patients. I think he says to use baking soda and water to brush your teeth. Seriously. I have Fibro and have had it for 10 years now.
you dont no anything be glad you dont have this its not in our heads your THICK , IF YOU SAY THIS, I HAVE THIS AND LUPUS AND HUGHES SYNDROME HEART MURMER, SROGENS , NEA,RY AL THE IMMIN ILLNESS IM UNDER THE HOS IN UK THAT TREATS ALL THESE NO CURE BAD BAD PAIN, BYE THE WAY NO CURE SO DONT WRITE ABOUT THINGS YOU CLEARLY DONT NO WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT, YOU CAN WRITE WHAT YOU WANT WHO CARES , I DONT CANT FEEL ANY WORST AND THERES HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE VERY ILL,
Malic Acid & Magnesium, Probiotic or yogurt, BTotal Subligual, Sesamine, Coral Calcium and Gaba is what I would suggest you start on. PLEASE DO NOT get hooked on the "Big Pharma" drugs, it is NOT worth it!! Smoke MMJ if your parents will allow you to, it will ease tummy cramps/pain, muscles to relax and help you sleep. STOP drinking diet pop, aspartame makes it worse. Drink FILTERED water. Reduce the acidicness in your body, can use pH strips to test. Don't give up this dis-ease can get better!
I had something very different. I had 3 months of mania, zero sleep & delusions. The back of my neck & shoulders were very stiff. I started developing arthritis pain. Toothpaste & EVERYTHING I drank & ate gave me gas. My problem was mania, malabsorption, IBS, hormones, infection. IMO, it's degrees of impairment in overall immunity that determine symptoms. Some ppl get fibro, others bipolar, anxiety, scz, MS, or all the above depending on individuality. Most MD's have no clue C.C.N.'s do.
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the doctor is mistaken. the cause is nerve interference. it is correctable. i suggest fibromyalgics seek consultation with an hio method chiropractor.
I am 41 years old..NEVER been hypersensitive to pain before...this has nothing to do with being hypersensitive..
rhondabugg 3 months ago
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Lady, you have no clue!!!! Are you really this stupid???
2uZena 3 months ago
Because my acute pain is fine... I can tolerate almost any acute pain.. because I know that there is an end. Chronic pain is different.. it can rob a person's soul. How do you treat that when doctors don't want to treat people?? Nor find out the cause of Fibro and they just turn their cheek? It's not a psychological problem. I would love to hear ONE doctor whom suffers from Fibromyalgia and please tell us what is their treatment plan and to be open and honest. I bet it's different from ours.
mya3772 5 months ago
And to the doctor..... there is no way that we are "hyper-sensitive" to pain and pain stimuli. I live with pain everyday. I can't wake up without being in pain. I'm not hypersensitive, I have deep chronic stabbing pain and I have a huge tolerance to pain. My dentist says that he barely has to numb me and that he told me that I had a huge pain tolerance. That his other patients would be complaining. Here's a question.. How does the hypersensitivity affect acute pain v/s chronic pain??
mya3772 5 months ago
What if all the disgusting chemicals they are putting in ALL of our products cause sensitive people to develop fibromyalgia in the first place?
OutsideTheBox28 5 months ago 2
@OutsideTheBox28 I agree with you and that's what I was going to say. Fibromyalgia is a "newer" diagnosis and they are learning more about it and the clinical manifestations and causes... Open your eyes... there's got to be a huge correlation between all the preventable chemicals in our bodies and Fibro. Look up "Gulf War Syndrome" and the found symptoms caused from heated Aspartame from the desert heat. They mimic and are almost identical to the symptoms of Fibromyalgia.
mya3772 5 months ago
@mya3772 Looked it up, that is very interesting. All the symptoms are very similar. I really think that syndromes and disorders such as this are signs that there is something wrong with the environment and not the people who have this. My body feels sick, like I am having an allergic reaction to the outside world. We as a culture need to stop looking so much at the individual and look at where that person is coming from.
OutsideTheBox28 5 months ago
"Echinacea - which is an immune stimulant... that's in a lot of toothpaste & mouth washes." = SHE IS TALKING OUT HER ASS.
Echinacea is NOT an ingredient in Johnson & Johnson's Crest, NOT in Colgate Palmolive's Colgate, NOT in Church & Dwight's Aim nor Closeup.
That's the 4 major toothpaste brands that dominate the US market. NONE include echinacea. Only a few specialty brands like BioForce & A.Vogel include echinacea - and the consumer use of those 2 brands is TINY compared to Crest & Colgate.
ShawnsterVideos 9 months ago
I am a recovered fibromyalgic who had to leave the care of the medical profession to discover the cause and cure of this horrific condition, without drugs. I completely understand this illness from the inside and back out again, and am living proof that you can cure this and take back your life! Please do not give up from failed hope. Keep going!!!
Valerie Lumley, Recovered Fibromyalgia and author of
"Curing Chronic Fibromyalgia - Choosing What Works"
ValerieLumley 1 year ago
I have fibromyalgia and it really hurts. Why is she even talking about toothpaste? I really don't think they will find a cure for this cronic disease. You really don't know how it feels till you have it.
scotcandy2001 1 year ago
@scotcandy2001 I have it too and I understand why she is talking about toothpaste if you ever start researching whats in our health products you would be surprised how many toxic and potentially toxic things are in them I didn't worry about that stuff much until 1) I started working at a natural grocery store in health and beauty and had to do the research and 2) I suddenly had a reaction to MSG for the first time in my life leading me to find that with fibro u can be sensitive to many things
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There is no medical hope and will never be. Only remedial treatment can help. Medical help was always misunderstood by doctors and they knows that. You are also developing stomach ache, extreme fatigue, diorrhoea or constipation, poor memory and concentration, sleepless nights, waking up just as you went to bed? Do you really want to get help? No tricks, no scam. Just follow the link and get the answer you need.
bensonmeds 1 year ago
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so i truly feel that fibromyalgia is more of a psychological thing, rather than pain sensory, or any of that nonsense. i feel that i'm tense all that time. i'll realize even when i'm laying down, i won't be holding my body completely relaxed on the bed, i'll be rigid & have to force myself to sink in, & my muscles to relax. i KNOW what mine stemmed from. ppl have different triggers. meditation to relax ur entire body is a great help actually. meditation helped me more than anything has! try it
MsAnthropy82 2 years ago
It is NOT a psychological thing! I deal with the pain every day and it is not psychological. Apparently, you don't have it or you wouldn't be saying that.
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WWJD1900 2 years ago
what came first the egg or the chicken, fibro people get depressed and angry AFTER fibro, the never ending pain and tiredness with no solutions make's patients angry and depressed as they learn to deal with it, it's the same thing with migraines, migraines suffers turn depressed AFTER months to years AFTER the unset, same with cancer. 1 out of three women admit to being raped, many uncounted, so does 1 out of every 3 or more, women have fibro?
truemirror 2 years ago
actually women account for a large percentage, much larger than males, for having fibromyalgia. perhaps there is a legitimate connection. do you know how high the toll is for abuse against women primarily? we're the most discriminated against. always have been. above race. i, personally, am not angry... i'm okay. as i mentioned, i learned how to deal with said events in my life quite properly. to sum it up. forgive others. forgive yourself. trust God. and all will be well.
MsAnthropy82 2 years ago
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i fear you're not understanding what i'm saying. of course it manifests itself physically. that's the point. we grow weary of suffering mentally and subject it to our physical state. so YES, you're right... but it stems forth from emotions and how u deal w stress. notice when you're angry, or stressed... doesn't it get worse?? if you have fibro it should. i pray that you'll be released of your anger and painful memories, etc. & that u understand ur not the only one.
MsAnthropy82 2 years ago
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WWJD1900 2 years ago
I'm not angry at you. You took my comment out of context. I was just expressing that fibromyalgia was not a psychological element. I'm sorry that you are in pain. It must have been terrible for you to go through that type of abuse, that's terrible. I'm a pre-law student and I can't stand it when people hurt others. We need more laws enacted to better protect women and children. I just wanted to clarify that I'm not angry at you. Have a nice day!
WWJD1900 2 years ago
You need to watch the series by Dr. Klimas on xmrv virus. This IS NOT a psychological thing, never was. Yes we become hypersensitive to nearly everything, you need to do more research to give yourself some relief.
seaflame1 2 years ago
i don't need to... what i do works great for me! thanks anyway!! perception is a powerful thing. i think people want something to argue about. i was simply stating some observations among my 7 years of agony... and how i deal w it... GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR OWN WAY OF DEALING WITH IT!!!
MsAnthropy82 2 years ago
@MsAnthropy82
My point is, making statements such as yours are doing a complete disservice to, are disrespectful of each of us that suffer from this disease, along with too many uneducated medical practioners. Ignorance is not bliss.
seaflame1 2 years ago
how is my "theory" and my sharing of my personal "concept of fibromyalgia" disrespectful in any way? wait... i know, you're the only person who has it. that's it! i figured it out!! my 7 years of pain is all because my intolerance altho i have a huge pain tolerance. you've pin-pointed it! genius! haha! you are a true fibro sufferer... they're so touchy. Ignorance... lets talk about ignorance, since you obviously read what i wrote in the wrong light. your intelligence is really showing, buddy.
MsAnthropy82 2 years ago
now again i'll say, I PERSONALLY FEEL AS THOUGH MY ONSET BEGAN AROUND THE SAME TIME AS A HUUUUUGE TRIPLE DOSE OF TRAGEDY. I FELT LIKE I WAS WALKING ON EGGSHELLS CONSTANTLY, LIKE MY BODY WAS TENSE BECAUSE MY MIND COULD NOT TAKE THE EMOTIONAL ABUSE, IT THEREFORE SUBJECTED IT TO MY PHYSICAL STATE BECAUSE I CAN AND DO HAVE A HIGH TOLERANCE TO PAIN. I THEN LEARNED TO EASE THE TENSION BY MEDITATING AND RELAXING MY MIND AND BODY!!! WORD TO YA MOTHER!! remind me how that's insulting again..? or try it!
MsAnthropy82 2 years ago
Hi. I also feel that this is what happened to me after a triple dose of traumatic events. It's like my mind had to be so strong to be able to deal with them that my body took all the stress and clapped out on me.
interstellarbella 2 years ago
now you should stop trying to start cyber fights, because it makes you look pretty ridiculous... i do believe all humans are entitled to their opinions and just as entitled to share them, especially on the world wide web. you're disrespecting me... i haven't pin-pointed you out of a crowd while you're sharing your opinion. you obviously have a lot of anger to deal with. so deal with it, and stop harassing people on cyber space for sharing their opinions. its lame. i actually do have a life.
MsAnthropy82 2 years ago
@seaflame1
actually, the finger you point at me as I was gently trying to help you doesn't make me look bad. good luck with yourself...
seaflame1 2 years ago
"what I do works great for me...Good luck with your own way of dealing with it!"
Wow, that's great for you maybe but there are other ways to put your point across. Surely we are all fighting the same battle??
happysad321 2 years ago
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To MsAnthropy82...
"what I do works great for me...Good luck with your own way of dealing with it!"
Wow, that's great for you maybe but there are other ways to put your point across. Surely we are all fighting the same battle??
happysad321 2 years ago
how do you know it isn't great for you? have you tried it?? if not... don't knock it... or just get hooked on hydrocodone... whichever works for you (and the government manufactured drug companies... which is what and who ur really helping... the ones who sell people this fibro BS!!!) i'm not fighting a battle. i've come to acceptance with what i have... no battle here.
MsAnthropy82 2 years ago
and no there's not a better way to get my point across. because ignorance reigns supreme. you have to do it in a dramatic sequence on youtube... otherwise you're not taken seriously... so it seems. or people just talk crap... and don't choose to shut up and listen for once in their stubborn lives.
MsAnthropy82 2 years ago
no no no... it is not an overreaction to pain. i can take pain. i've always been able to. i have been one tough chicka. not afraid of pain either. never been a whiney person. i'm the person who is very outgoing. when i got a tattoo, it was actually relief!! compared to fibromyalgia. people consider that pain horrendous. fibromyalgia patients are people who take stress into their physical body. there is so much energy in the world due to over population. we're nice ppl who dn't let out our anger
MsAnthropy82 2 years ago
I didnt hear very many Tips from this video.....kind of a waste of time....
dummblond24x7 2 years ago
Doesnt it have something to do with the Guifenisein protocol? There is something in commercial toothpaste that is bad for Fibro patients. I think he says to use baking soda and water to brush your teeth. Seriously. I have Fibro and have had it for 10 years now.
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GDguitarplayer 2 years ago
Oh yes it does. I hope you never get it.
shi2612 2 years ago 2
you dont no anything be glad you dont have this its not in our heads your THICK , IF YOU SAY THIS, I HAVE THIS AND LUPUS AND HUGHES SYNDROME HEART MURMER, SROGENS , NEA,RY AL THE IMMIN ILLNESS IM UNDER THE HOS IN UK THAT TREATS ALL THESE NO CURE BAD BAD PAIN, BYE THE WAY NO CURE SO DONT WRITE ABOUT THINGS YOU CLEARLY DONT NO WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT, YOU CAN WRITE WHAT YOU WANT WHO CARES , I DONT CANT FEEL ANY WORST AND THERES HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE VERY ILL,
dorawakley 2 years ago
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well you certainly can't spell anyways...must be all those narcotics you get for your "FM: . mind over matter I say.
good luck. you'll need it from the sound of things.
GDguitarplayer 2 years ago
what ever you freak
dorawakley 2 years ago
i am 15 and I was diagnosed in december of 2008.
It started off with the irritable bowl syndrome,
Then it was pains, (doctors said that it was growing pains and i need to loose weight. I was ok with the loosing weight part.)
then i was having headaches,
then depression,
major pain,
no sleep,
sick all of the time,
anxiety
so yeah I dont understand the toothpaste thing and how it does with fibro. can someone explain to me please. I would appreciate it.
ImMe613 2 years ago
Malic Acid & Magnesium, Probiotic or yogurt, BTotal Subligual, Sesamine, Coral Calcium and Gaba is what I would suggest you start on. PLEASE DO NOT get hooked on the "Big Pharma" drugs, it is NOT worth it!! Smoke MMJ if your parents will allow you to, it will ease tummy cramps/pain, muscles to relax and help you sleep. STOP drinking diet pop, aspartame makes it worse. Drink FILTERED water. Reduce the acidicness in your body, can use pH strips to test. Don't give up this dis-ease can get better!
pixelmation 2 years ago
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lol
Guai4life 3 years ago
danger0usknowledge 3 years ago
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the doctor is mistaken. the cause is nerve interference. it is correctable. i suggest fibromyalgics seek consultation with an hio method chiropractor.
hiodr 4 years ago