@TENNISIZFUN12 I guess Rafa plays with cold hands? I am all for mini-tennis, but 90% of players execute it wrong! I am promoting that players should be able to do both. Most people just tap the ball like ping pong in mini tennis and that is a waste of time. Most pros do not do it!
These pros don't play mini-tennis. Trust me. Some do, some don't. Is there any scientific research that mini-tennis benefits your game? It's overrated. Good players warm up from the baseline, slow and relaxed. No moon balls, good rhythm and depth. It has gotten to the point that many recreational players play mini-tennis, but execute wrong. They volley, stand in the box, they don't have long rallies and once they go back to baseline they need to re-calibrate again. Food for thought
usually most pros have 2-3 feet net clearence unless the go for winners and passing shots, then they will hit it flatter over the net to make it harder to get to.
shouldn't be too high but also not too flat.
if you always clear only 1 foot you will have a lot of net shots and short balls, but if you have always 5 or 6 foot the balls are too slow.
2-3 feet are a good point of reference to start although it varies by playing style.
one should always strive to have good net clearance regardless of technique, lower margin of error = less mistakes. I was told this by a tennis pro and even though i never made it to state champions because of high competition, i am a decent tennis player because of this basic tip.
this is a really good reference. im just starting to play tennis, though ive been a fan for a long time. thanks for putting this up and for everyone behind this video :]
So in other words, with that technique you can not hit low over the net? Or... do these pros know that there needs to be a safety margin of about 2-3 feet above the net?
@hansromertennis look at the berdych forehand. he uses an eastern grip resulting in much lower net clearance. same with agassi who uses a conservative semi-western.
also, compare roddicks forehand to his backhand. he uses a near-western on the forehand side and gets significant net clearance, whereas his backhand trajectory is flat and he gets much less net clearance on that side.
@hansromertennis rmsprolwer is right. Nadal's technique and style of play is what makes the high net clearance, he isn't purposely doing it for practice. I mean go watch a Federer video where he is warming up or practicing. He plays with probably half the height that Nadal does.
@hansromertennis Your point about hitting lower over the net doesnt really hurt rmsprowlers point in that Nadal's western grip makes hitting topspin and thus, high net clearance, much more "natural". If Nadal hits a low ball with that grip, it really doesnt damage his argument.
Western grips do make topspin and net clearance easier.
Let me put it this way. Can you name a single person with an EASTERN grip that hits the same type of heavy, loopy ball as nadal on a consistent basis?
@Thederangedwang let me put it this way. Can you name ANY player at all who hits the same type of heavy, loopy ball as nadal on a consistent basis? ... and by the way: federer is the player with the 2nd most spin and he is playing with an eastern grip
@telmolicious Federer does not use a pure eastern group, he uses a variation of it which makes it closer to semi western. Naming a player that competes with Nadal's spin is irrelevant. People are different, players are different. Just because you use the same group doesnt mean you all have the same spin. Nadal is a freak because his spin is extreme, even for western grips. What I am trying to say is that on average, people with western grips have more spin on their shots...its simply technique
@telmolicious According to your logic, grips dont make that big a difference in generating different types of shots...then why do players use continental while serving and volleying? Grips give different ball characteristics...its a simple as that. Try slicing with a forehand grip. And please dont tell me that a slice can be as high and loopy as a heavy topspin
@claus1225 yeah the problem with it is that you can't hit penetrating shots very well. davydenko in my opinion is a guy that can hit very penetrating groundstrokes.
@hansromertennis Well he definitely hits like a pro, and I don't know any pros who look so much like Rafa, so it must be Rafa. That just doesn't look like his normal forehand. He must be experimenting.
Good observation. It's Roger Federer! I had everyone fooled for more than 2 years! Study the game maybe and watch some tennis, then come back to this video again...
A good point is letting your arm go and remaining relaxed; it allows one not to interfer with the kinetic chain started by one's body prior his arm action.
The second good point is the net clearence; think of tennis as being 3D and not only 2D... bouncing height, net clearence, curving and so on are important.
@hateNadalll I am letting everyone know that the user 'federerbestclass' and the user 'hateNadalll' (who posts stupid comments about hating nadal)- are the SAME PERSON. They posted to me a list of all the things Nadal does that they dont like, guess what, it was the exact same list (with broken english) that febbestclass posted to me!!!. they give themself thumbs up to look good. Very disrespectful and arrogant person!!
whoever made this video and commented that they don't do mini-tennis, to them I say: IT DOESN'T MATTER! NO ONE IS BETTER FOR DOING MINI TENNIS WARM UP OR WORSE! IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO DO IT THEY'RE NOT ANY BETTER OF THAN SOMEONE WHO DOES!
That's exactly my point! However, mini-tennis is over-emphasized and I agree it has nothing to do with warming up better. Sometimes I do it, sometimes I don't. But I play the same! Thanks HR
Not sure who your question is directed to? I, hansromertennis, shot the video and I used to play a lot of mini-tennis with students and also myself. As USPTA Master Professional I have come to realize that it is more in the mind than anything else. The problem is that most people play it incorrectly. If executed correctly, it is a nice way to ease in. I believe that players should be comfortable starting from the baseline as well! Thanks HR
Making distance is mental... as an example, we can pick this fun game of trying to make the longest slap shot in hockey. You'll see some people being able to hit quite hard at some 30-40 feet when they begin; there is already enoguh pace to meet a blueline distance of 75 feet, but move them back and they will miss the same shot they already succeeded at doing.
Same goes for baseline shots; you can swing them harder than attacking shots - just transfer pace into spin.
They hit it high over the net each shot or most shots but it seems like when they hit penetrating outright winners they are really low and extremely fast. Is that true (about the low part, not so much the fast)?
What exactly do you mean by penetrating outright winners? As in passing shots? or as in suddenly "pulling the trigger" down the line? Nadal is not known for unforced errors, in other words, most of his shots are not that low over the net. I watched Agassi-Federer a few years ago in CA and 85% of the rallys were from well behind the baseline (4-10ft!) and cleared the net significantly. Something to think about...
Well the shots where they rip a backhand crosscourt passing shot or a random forehand down the line at like 90 mph or so. And penetrating meaning the other player has no chance of reaching it even though they are seemingly in reach. If that makes any kind of sense.
Remember that the camera angles, during the tournaments are high behind the baseline. so you don't really see how high the net clearance is. I am sure that they take chances once in a while, and hit it slightly harder and lower. With this video I only wanted to illustrate that the average player thinks the pros hit hard and low, which is obviously not correct. Thanks for feedback, hr
The pros typically hit from 3 to 6 feet above the net and between 65mph to 72mph.
Now, understand that if the ball bounces shoulder height, you can hit harder with less spin and still have this service line shot hitting the fence off the first bounce; although the shot requires a better timing, it also allows a better angle.
Shots above 80mph are attack shots or winners and they are regularly taken within the first two feets above the net.
yeah it's nearly impossible to hit an outright winner that's high over the net. you see agassi hit a lot of winners or nalbandian because their shots are lower, so it takes less time for the ball to travel the distance needed to get to their opponent.
notice that these pros hit loopy balls high over the net. It's hard to see that on T.V. from a bird's eye view, but it's shown pretty clearly here that a lot of that energy that could be used in making the ball go faster is used instead in making the ball loop and spin. Tennis, at an advanced level, is not about hitting the ball faster and faster!
Totally agree. I sat court side one time during an Agassi-Federer match in Indian Wells, CA. At least 80% of all ground strokes rallies were 3 feet, or more,over the net! Thanks for alert observation... HR
It's about making the ball hard to attack. The idea is to keep the opponent off the court and, iff possible, have them hit ball on the rise or shoulder height.
Any ball which continues to rise passed the baseline is a good rally ball. A good trick to see if your strokes are effective is to hit them from your baseline and have them bounce as they normally would. If they hit the fence off first bounce with reasonnable pace, consider they were hard to attack.
I'm kind of relieved to see Nadal spin his racket after every hit. That is my worst habit and my coach hates it. I just don't feel right without spinning it. lol
Would not dismiss MINI TENNIS so readily. Sure that are are some athletes with world class abilities that may not need it. However for many average & above average tennis players it can be very beneficial.
Have seen many talented juniors, collegiate players and even some pros using mini tennis.
Thanks for comment. Mini-tennis is all in the mind. Do players perform less without mini-tennis? From a developmental point of view I see the benefits. For advanced players as a warm-up I have my doubts. I consider myself a "touch-player", however, without mini-tennis I do just fine...hr
I agree, but I think his injury was definitely bothering him... It's good to have close competition at the top. Makes it interesting for all of us to watch! HR
Lol @ squeaky sneakers. Also, everybody, look how on EVERY forehand he drops the racquet head. Starts high, ends low, and SNAPS his wrist upward above his shoulder.
Thanks for observation. Remember that it "appears" as a wrist snap. The human body is anatomically not capable of ""snapping" a wrist, especially with a racquet in your hand. The heavy pronation that takes places, makes it "look like" the wrist "snaps", while in fact it is a result of the pronation action. Same thing happens on serves, where it "appears" as people "snap" their wrist. Thanks for watching... HR
Thanks everyone for visiting my site. Maybe tone down the language a little? I actually shot the video about 20 feet away from Nadal and yes, it sounds "hard" because they hit the ball clean and solid, and also because the echo of the indoors. In addition, every ball has heavy spin, trust me. I have seen Nadal many times and research has shown that he puts more rotation on the ball than any pro EVER!
Love him too, not so sure if his strokes are flat, he hits pretty heavy spin on about everything! I was standing right behind him and can not recall one flat shot!
Yep. Heavy spin, just like his match strokes. The noise is because they are hitting MUCH more powerfully than youtubers will realize. They just make it look easy. An amateur would be overwhelmed by any one of these shots....
most of the noise is because they are indoors btw, but i agree, each of his shots are extremely powerful compared to a club level player, i would be blown away completely
Sure, but how many club players sound like that indoors?! There is a unique audio quality to pro tennis! When you hear it up close...you know, even before you see them! Anyways, yes, nothing to be ashamed of if you did get blown away, it's not like you get practice against as heavy a spin ball as Nadal! Which was my point, the person saying he is hitting it flat, is clueless!
seriously dude, i play indoors frequently, im a gooood player, the noise is because youre inside. And why would i be ashamed to be blown away by nadal, what are you implying, that yopure better than me? If federer can get blown away by nadal i dont need you telling me that i will you retard, i assure you, i'd get blown away far less than you would, you fucking internet crusader
Unbelievable. First, I teach at an indoor club and used to have a national open ranking. I KNOW what indoor courts sound like. I also KNOW what a pro ball sounds like.
Second, saying "there is no shame" is a SUPPORTIVE statement. WE ALL KNOW you'd get blown away by Nadal. That phrase means, "yes, there is no shame in that, we all would."
Sigh. That's what I get for replying to a 13 yr old. Nice little temper tantrum by the way, you really need to grow up.
i hate hitting with the aero racquets or babolat in general. they have way to much kick i hit the softest strokes out. i like dead feeling racquets i guess the babolat storm would fall under that but the kfactor, rebels, and microgels are sick!!
the reason you hit 'soft' shots out is because of the angel and the spin. I use a babolat and can hit with nearly all my strength. The kick gives me the power I need to hit passing shots while good spin keeps the ball in.
actually it just because the racquet has to much kick. the same grip stroke and angle of the racquet head i can hit in with a wilson, head, or prince. the only babolats i hit out with are the pure drives and aero versions. but i can hit fine with the storm.
I have a similar experience. The Babolat Pure Drive and the Aero Pro rackets do generate more pace than other rackets, due to their thick cross sections and high stiffness. The reason the "hard hitting" pros can control the ball is because the pros (Nadal, for example) can generate RIDICULOUS racket speed which creates extraordinary topspin, bringing the ball down. If Nadal ever lowers his racket speed, the ball will fly out for lack of topspin. The racket, though, does generate a lot of pace.
I'd say the racquet is above-average in power, but at 100 sq head, it's hardly a "powerful" racquet. In any case, the person I was speaking about specifically said he was hitting even "the softest strokes out". Now that kind of thing is his own problem and not the racquet.
I'm guessing this is what you meant by intention but just in case someone didn't catch on...it also depends on the angle of your swing! A swing with more drive will get a bigger increase in pace while a swing with more lift will get a bigger increase in topspin.
Good question. I will not have enough space. Obviously the amount of spin generated on serves is the same. Any non-bouncing shot serves, volleys, overheads will have some degree of difference. I am pretty sure that when Federer hits a low heavy slice bh on grass, Nadal will have less spin on the next shot than, for example, on hard courts. It is a known fact that clay is slower, thus resulting in more setup time, thus resulting in probably more spin. Then again, I am not a tennis guru... hr
you should always play mini tennis for 2 or 3 minutes to warm up the hands
TENNISIZFUN12 3 months ago
@TENNISIZFUN12 I guess Rafa plays with cold hands? I am all for mini-tennis, but 90% of players execute it wrong! I am promoting that players should be able to do both. Most people just tap the ball like ping pong in mini tennis and that is a waste of time. Most pros do not do it!
hansromertennis 3 months ago
1:10 is kinda wierd but before it rocks
Marcus200012 5 months ago
みててきもちいな
amima206 8 months ago
whats good?
Tofuskater 9 months ago
If you are as good as Nadal, nothing is gay. It's just cool
hansromertennis 9 months ago
gay thing on his head
dassmanen44 9 months ago
NO MINI TENNIS!?!?!?!?!?
johnjohns65 10 months ago
@johnjohns65
These pros don't play mini-tennis. Trust me. Some do, some don't. Is there any scientific research that mini-tennis benefits your game? It's overrated. Good players warm up from the baseline, slow and relaxed. No moon balls, good rhythm and depth. It has gotten to the point that many recreational players play mini-tennis, but execute wrong. They volley, stand in the box, they don't have long rallies and once they go back to baseline they need to re-calibrate again. Food for thought
hansromertennis 10 months ago
Thanks for feedback!
hansromertennis 10 months ago
usually most pros have 2-3 feet net clearence unless the go for winners and passing shots, then they will hit it flatter over the net to make it harder to get to.
shouldn't be too high but also not too flat.
if you always clear only 1 foot you will have a lot of net shots and short balls, but if you have always 5 or 6 foot the balls are too slow.
2-3 feet are a good point of reference to start although it varies by playing style.
dominikkeul 11 months ago
sounds like a fart a second before the video ends
zimmyzimzim1 11 months ago
one should always strive to have good net clearance regardless of technique, lower margin of error = less mistakes. I was told this by a tennis pro and even though i never made it to state champions because of high competition, i am a decent tennis player because of this basic tip.
kelman221 1 year ago 2
@kelman221 Agree!
PTRtestsite 1 year ago
@kelman221 i think i meant higher, lol not sure
kelman221 1 year ago
@kelman221 good point
hansromertennis 11 months ago
Need exercise tips for tennis ?
TheLeilisa 1 year ago
this is a really good reference. im just starting to play tennis, though ive been a fan for a long time. thanks for putting this up and for everyone behind this video :]
listen2acoustic 1 year ago
@listen2acoustic
Thanks for feedback. Good luck in your tennis-journey!
hansromertennis 1 year ago
the high net clearance is a result of his technique and not because he's trying to do it.
rmsprowler 1 year ago
@rmsprowler
So in other words, with that technique you can not hit low over the net? Or... do these pros know that there needs to be a safety margin of about 2-3 feet above the net?
hansromertennis 1 year ago
@hansromertennis look at the berdych forehand. he uses an eastern grip resulting in much lower net clearance. same with agassi who uses a conservative semi-western.
rmsprowler 1 year ago
also, compare roddicks forehand to his backhand. he uses a near-western on the forehand side and gets significant net clearance, whereas his backhand trajectory is flat and he gets much less net clearance on that side.
rmsprowler 1 year ago
@hansromertennis rmsprolwer is right. Nadal's technique and style of play is what makes the high net clearance, he isn't purposely doing it for practice. I mean go watch a Federer video where he is warming up or practicing. He plays with probably half the height that Nadal does.
AllGenreMusic 1 year ago
@hansromertennis Your point about hitting lower over the net doesnt really hurt rmsprowlers point in that Nadal's western grip makes hitting topspin and thus, high net clearance, much more "natural". If Nadal hits a low ball with that grip, it really doesnt damage his argument.
Western grips do make topspin and net clearance easier.
Let me put it this way. Can you name a single person with an EASTERN grip that hits the same type of heavy, loopy ball as nadal on a consistent basis?
Thederangedwang 11 months ago
@Thederangedwang let me put it this way. Can you name ANY player at all who hits the same type of heavy, loopy ball as nadal on a consistent basis? ... and by the way: federer is the player with the 2nd most spin and he is playing with an eastern grip
telmolicious 10 months ago
@telmolicious Federer does not use a pure eastern group, he uses a variation of it which makes it closer to semi western. Naming a player that competes with Nadal's spin is irrelevant. People are different, players are different. Just because you use the same group doesnt mean you all have the same spin. Nadal is a freak because his spin is extreme, even for western grips. What I am trying to say is that on average, people with western grips have more spin on their shots...its simply technique
Thederangedwang 10 months ago
@telmolicious According to your logic, grips dont make that big a difference in generating different types of shots...then why do players use continental while serving and volleying? Grips give different ball characteristics...its a simple as that. Try slicing with a forehand grip. And please dont tell me that a slice can be as high and loopy as a heavy topspin
Thederangedwang 10 months ago
@rmsprowler i personally dont like such high clearance. it's ugly
claus1225 1 year ago
@claus1225 yeah the problem with it is that you can't hit penetrating shots very well. davydenko in my opinion is a guy that can hit very penetrating groundstrokes.
rmsprowler 1 year ago
@claus1225 That's why you probably hit 1,000's of balls in the net and you are not #1
hansromertennis 11 months ago
He looks like a spanish pirate
Lindlaar 1 year ago
@Lindlaar
pirata español
hansromertennis 1 year ago
The other Guy is Tommy Robredo
soeghi 1 year ago
nadal's shots are nearly twice as fast and 5 times more spin
daemonturk 1 year ago
guys nadal always hits like this in his practice sessions n no loopy forehand everytime -____-
wonhoyoung 1 year ago
it looks as mini tenis my good i want that skill
ffallenaangel 1 year ago
I dont know what the different grips are, but is it also good to do what is comfortable for me, and if it works then fine?
please can someone help.
Thank you.
waspsrugbydude151410 1 year ago
Is a western grip?
Phoenix8722 1 year ago
@Phoenix8722
I think it's almost Western, between Semi-Western
hansromertennis 1 year ago
@hansromertennis its western like, like to the extreme
Prankcafe 1 year ago
ha actually it is nadal.
GGoody15 1 year ago
ha actually it is nadal.
GGoody15 1 year ago
@dodododa. l0l your dumb
kingdom1292 1 year ago
Looks like Nadal, but that isn't the forehand Nadal uses.
dodododa 1 year ago
@dodododa please, check out my Monfiles video. That isn't Monfils either?
hansromertennis 1 year ago
@hansromertennis Well he definitely hits like a pro, and I don't know any pros who look so much like Rafa, so it must be Rafa. That just doesn't look like his normal forehand. He must be experimenting.
dodododa 1 year ago
@dodododa of course thats nadal..
what the hell are you talking about thats no the forehand he uses lol
cj397 1 year ago
@dodododa thts just because hes changed his form since then
jckid24 1 year ago
Who is it then? Djokovic in a wig?
A550RGY 1 year ago
@A550RGY Hitting left handed pretty good!
hansromertennis 1 year ago
is not nadal
novueiro 1 year ago
@novueiro
Good observation. It's Roger Federer! I had everyone fooled for more than 2 years! Study the game maybe and watch some tennis, then come back to this video again...
hansromertennis 1 year ago
A good point is letting your arm go and remaining relaxed; it allows one not to interfer with the kinetic chain started by one's body prior his arm action.
The second good point is the net clearence; think of tennis as being 3D and not only 2D... bouncing height, net clearence, curving and so on are important.
GueorguiJoukov 1 year ago
Shout Defense Muscular Overaction always annoying.
hateNadalll 1 year ago
@hateNadalll I am letting everyone know that the user 'federerbestclass' and the user 'hateNadalll' (who posts stupid comments about hating nadal)- are the SAME PERSON. They posted to me a list of all the things Nadal does that they dont like, guess what, it was the exact same list (with broken english) that febbestclass posted to me!!!. they give themself thumbs up to look good. Very disrespectful and arrogant person!!
mattcheetos 1 year ago
lol my nikes r squeaky too
benny91100 1 year ago
whoever made this video and commented that they don't do mini-tennis, to them I say: IT DOESN'T MATTER! NO ONE IS BETTER FOR DOING MINI TENNIS WARM UP OR WORSE! IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO DO IT THEY'RE NOT ANY BETTER OF THAN SOMEONE WHO DOES!
rmsprowler 2 years ago 28
That's exactly my point! However, mini-tennis is over-emphasized and I agree it has nothing to do with warming up better. Sometimes I do it, sometimes I don't. But I play the same! Thanks HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
obviously you are offended because you play mini tennis?
KRodfadesaway427 2 years ago 8
Not sure who your question is directed to? I, hansromertennis, shot the video and I used to play a lot of mini-tennis with students and also myself. As USPTA Master Professional I have come to realize that it is more in the mind than anything else. The problem is that most people play it incorrectly. If executed correctly, it is a nice way to ease in. I believe that players should be comfortable starting from the baseline as well! Thanks HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
no I was replying to rmsprowler's comment as a joke sorry for the confusion
KRodfadesaway427 1 year ago 5
@hansromertennis
Making distance is mental... as an example, we can pick this fun game of trying to make the longest slap shot in hockey. You'll see some people being able to hit quite hard at some 30-40 feet when they begin; there is already enoguh pace to meet a blueline distance of 75 feet, but move them back and they will miss the same shot they already succeeded at doing.
Same goes for baseline shots; you can swing them harder than attacking shots - just transfer pace into spin.
GueorguiJoukov 1 year ago
? he means that they aren t playing minitennis, becouse it seems litle bit mini tennis in this video
kroo0der 1 year ago 2
Its mainly for people that dont play everyday , so they can just get the feel of the ball again
r0baa 1 year ago
They hit it high over the net each shot or most shots but it seems like when they hit penetrating outright winners they are really low and extremely fast. Is that true (about the low part, not so much the fast)?
scbaldwin13 2 years ago 32
What exactly do you mean by penetrating outright winners? As in passing shots? or as in suddenly "pulling the trigger" down the line? Nadal is not known for unforced errors, in other words, most of his shots are not that low over the net. I watched Agassi-Federer a few years ago in CA and 85% of the rallys were from well behind the baseline (4-10ft!) and cleared the net significantly. Something to think about...
hansromertennis 2 years ago
Well the shots where they rip a backhand crosscourt passing shot or a random forehand down the line at like 90 mph or so. And penetrating meaning the other player has no chance of reaching it even though they are seemingly in reach. If that makes any kind of sense.
scbaldwin13 2 years ago 35
Remember that the camera angles, during the tournaments are high behind the baseline. so you don't really see how high the net clearance is. I am sure that they take chances once in a while, and hit it slightly harder and lower. With this video I only wanted to illustrate that the average player thinks the pros hit hard and low, which is obviously not correct. Thanks for feedback, hr
hansromertennis 2 years ago
@hansromertennis
The pros typically hit from 3 to 6 feet above the net and between 65mph to 72mph.
Now, understand that if the ball bounces shoulder height, you can hit harder with less spin and still have this service line shot hitting the fence off the first bounce; although the shot requires a better timing, it also allows a better angle.
Shots above 80mph are attack shots or winners and they are regularly taken within the first two feets above the net.
GueorguiJoukov 1 year ago
yeah it's nearly impossible to hit an outright winner that's high over the net. you see agassi hit a lot of winners or nalbandian because their shots are lower, so it takes less time for the ball to travel the distance needed to get to their opponent.
rmsprowler 2 years ago 24
ya thats what i thought, thanks for the input!
scbaldwin13 2 years ago 24
i spin my racket too i guess everyone has thier own habits
Gamblor03 2 years ago 51
I always touch the fence/windscreen right before i start a match! HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
@Gamblor03 i spin the racket too
NiallJosephMcDaid 1 year ago
the other guy is gasquet?
wuau nadla cna really hit the ball
ffallenaangel 2 years ago 43
In the opening of the video it announces that Tommy Robredo is his warm up partner. HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
notice that these pros hit loopy balls high over the net. It's hard to see that on T.V. from a bird's eye view, but it's shown pretty clearly here that a lot of that energy that could be used in making the ball go faster is used instead in making the ball loop and spin. Tennis, at an advanced level, is not about hitting the ball faster and faster!
bhh1988 2 years ago 44
Totally agree. I sat court side one time during an Agassi-Federer match in Indian Wells, CA. At least 80% of all ground strokes rallies were 3 feet, or more,over the net! Thanks for alert observation... HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
It's about making the ball hard to attack. The idea is to keep the opponent off the court and, iff possible, have them hit ball on the rise or shoulder height.
Any ball which continues to rise passed the baseline is a good rally ball. A good trick to see if your strokes are effective is to hit them from your baseline and have them bounce as they normally would. If they hit the fence off first bounce with reasonnable pace, consider they were hard to attack.
GueorguiJoukov 2 years ago 46
I'm kind of relieved to see Nadal spin his racket after every hit. That is my worst habit and my coach hates it. I just don't feel right without spinning it. lol
lordmiroku1 2 years ago 44
Yes, it looks cool, but doesn't really serve a purpose. As long as it doesn't hurt the preparation of the next shot. Thanks HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
Would not dismiss MINI TENNIS so readily. Sure that are are some athletes with world class abilities that may not need it. However for many average & above average tennis players it can be very beneficial.
Have seen many talented juniors, collegiate players and even some pros using mini tennis.
gregr999 2 years ago 44
Thanks for comment. Mini-tennis is all in the mind. Do players perform less without mini-tennis? From a developmental point of view I see the benefits. For advanced players as a warm-up I have my doubts. I consider myself a "touch-player", however, without mini-tennis I do just fine...hr
hansromertennis 2 years ago
Soderling & Del Potro knows
supertrex2 2 years ago 44
I agree, but I think his injury was definitely bothering him... It's good to have close competition at the top. Makes it interesting for all of us to watch! HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
allez nadal!!!
mauritanie013 2 years ago 44
this man is the definition of consistent
pimpindunk9611 2 years ago 44
Lol @ squeaky sneakers. Also, everybody, look how on EVERY forehand he drops the racquet head. Starts high, ends low, and SNAPS his wrist upward above his shoulder.
Now THAT'S topspin. Now THAT'S Nadal.
thewaterman122 2 years ago 44
Thanks for observation. Remember that it "appears" as a wrist snap. The human body is anatomically not capable of ""snapping" a wrist, especially with a racquet in your hand. The heavy pronation that takes places, makes it "look like" the wrist "snaps", while in fact it is a result of the pronation action. Same thing happens on serves, where it "appears" as people "snap" their wrist. Thanks for watching... HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
now THAT'S every second backhand too long
seidl01 2 years ago 44
great video and angle.. thanks
1point0tennis 2 years ago 44
semi western?
dontclicktheusername 2 years ago 44
Hi everyone,
Thanks everyone for visiting my site. Maybe tone down the language a little? I actually shot the video about 20 feet away from Nadal and yes, it sounds "hard" because they hit the ball clean and solid, and also because the echo of the indoors. In addition, every ball has heavy spin, trust me. I have seen Nadal many times and research has shown that he puts more rotation on the ball than any pro EVER!
Thanks, Hans Romer
hansromertennis 2 years ago
"Squeaky Sneakers" haha wtf!?
robrockslikesocks 2 years ago 44
Crazy top sin on Rafa's shots ... the power alongside high net clearance is phenomenal. Cool vid.
vishy 2 years ago 43
Thanks, HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
You got that right! HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
Give me 5 solid reasons why Rafa should play mini tennis? HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
1: helps get your blood pumping
2:good for working out a point
lol thts all i got
liampimp12341234 2 years ago 44
No mini tennis = fail!
5688dude 2 years ago 43
Love him, his strokes are so consistent and flat on warm ups, very nice.
HoyoungTennis 2 years ago 43
Love him too, not so sure if his strokes are flat, he hits pretty heavy spin on about everything! I was standing right behind him and can not recall one flat shot!
hansromertennis 2 years ago
Yeah I thought he hit flat bacause it was indoors, the balls there are really loud.
HoyoungTennis 2 years ago 43
Uuhm, they're not flat at all. Look at how high the balls clear the net and how they bend down quickly, there is heavy spins on all of these shots.
mysteriekiller 2 years ago 43
Yep. Heavy spin, just like his match strokes. The noise is because they are hitting MUCH more powerfully than youtubers will realize. They just make it look easy. An amateur would be overwhelmed by any one of these shots....
datacipher 2 years ago 44
most of the noise is because they are indoors btw, but i agree, each of his shots are extremely powerful compared to a club level player, i would be blown away completely
LeweLeweLewe 2 years ago 44
Sure, but how many club players sound like that indoors?! There is a unique audio quality to pro tennis! When you hear it up close...you know, even before you see them! Anyways, yes, nothing to be ashamed of if you did get blown away, it's not like you get practice against as heavy a spin ball as Nadal! Which was my point, the person saying he is hitting it flat, is clueless!
datacipher 2 years ago 44
seriously dude, i play indoors frequently, im a gooood player, the noise is because youre inside. And why would i be ashamed to be blown away by nadal, what are you implying, that yopure better than me? If federer can get blown away by nadal i dont need you telling me that i will you retard, i assure you, i'd get blown away far less than you would, you fucking internet crusader
LeweLeweLewe 2 years ago 44
Unbelievable. First, I teach at an indoor club and used to have a national open ranking. I KNOW what indoor courts sound like. I also KNOW what a pro ball sounds like.
Second, saying "there is no shame" is a SUPPORTIVE statement. WE ALL KNOW you'd get blown away by Nadal. That phrase means, "yes, there is no shame in that, we all would."
Sigh. That's what I get for replying to a 13 yr old. Nice little temper tantrum by the way, you really need to grow up.
datacipher 2 years ago 44
flat??!! LOL. O...K....somebody doesn't know tennis....
datacipher 2 years ago 43
Not flat dude. HEAVY HEAVY SPIN. :D
Babolat3216 2 years ago 44
haha wow, i saw this vid when it was 100 views, now it is 90 000?~!?
mansuliu 2 years ago 43
Thanks for noticing! I am pretty amazed myself. The power of Youtube. Thanks for returning to this video once again... HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
ballons high net clearence :P
WillKenzo 2 years ago 43
i hate hitting with the aero racquets or babolat in general. they have way to much kick i hit the softest strokes out. i like dead feeling racquets i guess the babolat storm would fall under that but the kfactor, rebels, and microgels are sick!!
MIXMASTAPWN 2 years ago 43
the reason you hit 'soft' shots out is because of the angel and the spin. I use a babolat and can hit with nearly all my strength. The kick gives me the power I need to hit passing shots while good spin keeps the ball in.
SoccerKid283 2 years ago 43
actually it just because the racquet has to much kick. the same grip stroke and angle of the racquet head i can hit in with a wilson, head, or prince. the only babolats i hit out with are the pure drives and aero versions. but i can hit fine with the storm.
MIXMASTAPWN 2 years ago 43
I agree with you, soccerkid, because if the hard hitting pros can play with Babolat racquets, I'm sure Mizmastapwn's problem is his own.
A550RGY 2 years ago 43
I have a similar experience. The Babolat Pure Drive and the Aero Pro rackets do generate more pace than other rackets, due to their thick cross sections and high stiffness. The reason the "hard hitting" pros can control the ball is because the pros (Nadal, for example) can generate RIDICULOUS racket speed which creates extraordinary topspin, bringing the ball down. If Nadal ever lowers his racket speed, the ball will fly out for lack of topspin. The racket, though, does generate a lot of pace.
HBNplague 2 years ago 43
I'd say the racquet is above-average in power, but at 100 sq head, it's hardly a "powerful" racquet. In any case, the person I was speaking about specifically said he was hitting even "the softest strokes out". Now that kind of thing is his own problem and not the racquet.
A550RGY 2 years ago 43
i wish i played like him :<
zazorsoxi 2 years ago 43
I hear you, but practice makes perfect! HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
If practice makes perfect but nobodys perfect, why practice? :D
poopedship 2 years ago 43
That is exactly why you should practice! Maybe you will be the very first one to be perfect? Keep me posted...
hansromertennis 2 years ago
stfu n00b
Babuforlife 2 years ago 43
That was a pretty intense battle you had there... Alkiroth...
Seriously?
poopedship 2 years ago 43
Eastern is tough, consider changing.. HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
like... hitting it really high but still getting it in
manumber7 2 years ago 43
any idea how you can hit like that with a eastern forehand? cuz i find impossible.. lol
manumber7 2 years ago 43
"Squeaky sneakers" ..... hahahaha!!
YoSoyZuri 2 years ago 43
Squeaky they are! I guess in England you don't hear that as much on grass? Hope Murray makes a great run at Wimbledon? Thanks for feedback, HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
great footwork!!
but robredo sucks...
seidl01 2 years ago 43
Robredo is still Top 20, wait until the clay-court season starts! But, yes, he is not Nadal... HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
Yes I agree!! Tommy is great!
YoSoyZuri 2 years ago 43
you know grass isn't the only surface in England hard courts are still most played on grass are only used in the summer
ABCD241093 2 years ago 43
this is a fantastic vid for players wanting to see excellent footwork... i've recommended this one to many of my students...
410tennis 2 years ago 43
Thanks Brian, I like your channel as well! HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
he makes look really easy
phipo9 2 years ago 43
Easy does it HR
hansromertennis 2 years ago
One of the best videos of tennis. The best camera view to see tennis. 5/5!!!
Great!
sepa0202 2 years ago 43
Thank you very much. It was actually the only angle I was allowed! hr
hansromertennis 2 years ago
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supprresion2222 3 years ago 12
Depends on the angle (racquet face) and intention. The acceleration serves both spin and pace... hr
hansromertennis 3 years ago
I'm guessing this is what you meant by intention but just in case someone didn't catch on...it also depends on the angle of your swing! A swing with more drive will get a bigger increase in pace while a swing with more lift will get a bigger increase in topspin.
daraemkar 2 years ago 43
Thanks, well said. I appreciate it...hr
hansromertennis 2 years ago
great vid
pian000 3 years ago 43
Thanks
hansromertennis 3 years ago
lol squeky sneakers
xklaudx 3 years ago 43
Many recreational players have "flat feet", that's why I added this comment, thanks...
hansromertennis 3 years ago
Maybe soon turn out to be the best player the world ever had.
The high net clearance point seems to be important one I guess.
sgsawant 3 years ago 43
High net clearance, especially on the slower surfaces! hr
hansromertennis 3 years ago
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supprresion2222 3 years ago 12
See above... hr
hansromertennis 3 years ago
ESTRELAAAAAA* :)
I would love to play against him :D
FUCKING BEST SPANISH PLAYER EVER spain had...
congratulations Master-Nadal *
I wish you win so many... cuz your talent is awesome.... better from federer and any others*
thielas 3 years ago 43
hehe i was there in 2008 with my friend i saw nadal^^
theworldchange 3 years ago 43
Cool! I think I did see you! hr
hansromertennis 3 years ago
how did you see him if you dont know how he looks like lol haha
anyway, cool vid dude... :D
Babolat3216 3 years ago 43
It was an inside joke. Since he is Dutch, I am Dutch. Except I live in the Unites States. By the way, my dad lived in Cebu for a while... hr
hansromertennis 3 years ago
Cool... Small world... I live in Metro Manila though and Cebu's pretty far off... Have you ever been here in the Philippines??
Babolat3216 3 years ago 43
No, I haven't...
hansromertennis 3 years ago
man, there are so many idiots here saying rafas forehand is not relaxed, bad tecnique............
rafa and rogers forehands are the best examples of a relaxed swing, i also like sergi brugueras forehand, was very relaxed!
to rafas forehand: he cant do such overhead finishes if his arm would be tight- its his natural feeling for the situation!
lukebonstingl 3 years ago 43
Well said!
hansromertennis 3 years ago
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supprresion2222 3 years ago 12
Good question. I will not have enough space. Obviously the amount of spin generated on serves is the same. Any non-bouncing shot serves, volleys, overheads will have some degree of difference. I am pretty sure that when Federer hits a low heavy slice bh on grass, Nadal will have less spin on the next shot than, for example, on hard courts. It is a known fact that clay is slower, thus resulting in more setup time, thus resulting in probably more spin. Then again, I am not a tennis guru... hr
hansromertennis 3 years ago
THANK YOUUUUUUUUUU!!
Very much!
Awesome quality, the cam wasnt movie !! great
helped me a lot, can you post more if you have??
Please and thank you :D
alearg89 3 years ago 43
Thanks, Unfortunately I don't have more at this point... hr
hansromertennis 3 years ago
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supprresion2222 3 years ago 12