Outcry at Pope's denunciation of condom use

[KiprosPAO]

While the Pope is against condom use, he's also against extra-marital affairs. In other words if everyone followed his advice infections would eventually drop dramatically. Unfortunately much of the AIDS crisis in Africa is down to rape, extra-marital affairs, etc. So how dumb is for people to say "i'll will force myself on a woman, but i can't use a condom, it's against my religion!" lol. So in reality nothing the Pope has said is wrong here, it's just opportunistic criticism from non-Catholics

[divinegod102]

Arrest his ass and charge him with crimes against humanity.

[thegreatfearblog]

The practice of sex with condoms by people who are infected with aids do spread aids. As the protection is quite far from being 100% safe, the belief that they are, by many thousands of infected people, obvioulsly spreads aids in a way that monogamy and abstinence don't. If you were not aware condoms are not 100% safe you were right to make your comment. If you weren't, you are a fallacious idiot.

[JOHN411S]

View, Safe Sex In A Bottle, on youtube

[teedonster]

@nofreedom4racists you know what makes me lol the most? when religious people say other religons are wrong whilst they do the same back, heres the thing only one one religion can be right or maybe every religion ever shown can be wrong.

and if you say only islam is the correct religion then which version? and is every other religion wasting their time?

im atheist and ive made my own moral and selfless decisions and i dont need to follow a book to do that.

[teedonster]

@nofreedom4racists religious morality? like sacraficing goats in the name of god? killing those whought to be witches, covering up the pedophile priest scandal to protect the catholic status, banning condoms in the 3rd world?

sure some religious do charity work but do you really think their selflessness was inspired by religion? you think if they turned atheist they wouldnt do it?

however the fucked up people in the world like to use the evil of religious scripture to do wicked things.

[teedonster]

@nofreedom4racists but both the religions are a burden on the rest of the planet

[pdynamics1]

@nofreedom4racists: I agree there are many similarities between islam and christianity. In fact, one pastor (I forgot his name) was saying we should actually learn from Muslims since they are much more pious than us. All I'm asking is don't think the Vatican are against Muslims because we are not.

[pdynamics1]

@nofreedom4racists: First, the Vatican has been reaching out to the Muslim community. Pope John Paul 2 called Muslims "our cousins" and in fact prayed at a mosque once. Second, I do agree the sex scandals look bad but again, NOBODY is righteous.

[pdynamics1]

@nofreedom4racists: Agreed. Then why do you say "They should take a look at themselves first." Are you refering to the christian crusades? or the clerical sex abuse scandals?

[pdynamics1]

@nofreedom4racists: NOBODY is righteous and nobody has a corner on the market of morality as well. I've committed many sins (and I'm sure you have as well) but does that make everything I say a lie?

[pdynamics1]

@nofreedom4racists: Don't delude yourself. Don't forget who came up with the Big Bang Theory? (I assume you're familiar with it). It was a catholic priest from the Vatican named Georges Lemaître. Now why would a priest/scientist come up with something that goes in direct contrast against the bible? In fact, it's widely accepted in the scientific community. Or do you reject the Big Bang Theory as well?

[catholicpeter]

Those who accept hell over heaven, temporal pleasure over eternal peace, the body over the soul, Satan over God, by all means use condemns, hate your neighbor, commit cold blooded murder.

Those who have an iota of wisdom, intellect, reason and love, would choose otherwise.

[mohedd]

@catholicpeter LOL! fucking retard. what do you contribute to the world other than your lunacy. i bet you would take it from the ass from satan any day. 24/7.

[Ironysandwich]

@catholicpeter Tell me, have you ever eaten pork? Worn mixed fabrics? Worked on Saturday?

These things are forbidden in the Bible. Condom use is not.

[catholicpeter]

@Ironysandwich Yes, Yes, Yes.

The mosaic law is no longer binding, due to the new covenant. The laws of the Church are binding, this law is the law preached by Christ and His Apotles, and 'inscribed into everyones heart'.

FYI : I don't think they had synthetic rubber in 1500 BC

[super17a]

science over religion all the time

[chrisman737]

@Christianitylol, I don't know what part of my post you are addressing, but look it up yourself. Using harsh language will not help your cause. Clear objective thinking might help you. The quote I gave from Time magazine is a direct quote. Look it up yourself. The man who works at the Harvard Center for Population and Development Studies also agrees with the pope. Leave your adolescent language behind. Open your eyes to objective data and facts.

[JESUStheATHEIST1]

it may take two or three hundred years, but one day,society will look back in disbelief as to how religious delusions could have controlled our planet the way they did.

[santajimi]

Arrest the pope!

[DavidMarine]

Maybe the Pope was expressing his own preference. Perhaps he doesn't enjoy using condoms during anal sex.

[StopSpamming1]

The Pope should be sent to jail for mass murder.

Then replaced with a human, living in reality. Will religions ever go where they belong: a museum?

[chrisman737]

Time Magazine, February 15, 2010: "According to a study published in the Archives of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine, abstinence-only sex-education programs proved more effective in encouraging teens to delay having sex than more comprehensive school programs that include information about safe sex and contraceptive options. The study has prompted the Obama administration to consider boosting funding for such programs."

[chrisman737]

The AIDS virus is small enough to pass right through a condom. Condoms merely encourage promiscuity and exacerbate the AIDS crisis. Even Edward C. Green, who is the director of the AIDS Prevention Research Project at the Harvard Center for Population and Development Studies, agrees with the pope, saying that data from the U.S. funded Demographic Health Surveys supports this.

[soeffingwhat]

@chrisman737 - Bullshit, absolute bullshit and you know it. Condoms are a very good way of protection against Aids. Of course abstinence in itself is a good way to not get Aids or get Pregnant, but so are Condoms. Promiscuity happened way before condoms were even legalised. Thats one of the reasons Condoms were made available. and what about Unwanted Pregnancies? Couples have the right to enjoy each other Physically without worring about getting Pregnant if they don't want Kids, and why not?

[chrisman737]

@soeffingwhat, once again,, I gave a quote. You can say "bullshit" all you want, but don't address it to me. Address it to the objective sources I have quoted. Sex, in case you didn't know, is primarily for procreation (look it up in a good biology text book). It is not just a way to play but a way to share love which is open to the transmission of life. Sex creates life (including you). That's why sex is not a play thing but something that needs to be treated with respect and maturity.

[soeffingwhat]

@chrisman737 but you obviously agree with it as is evident in the Post I replied to and what you have saidhere. Yes, Sex has the purpose of pro-creation, but thats not all Sex is about. It is also about enjoying each other Physically, and there is nothing wrong with using a Condom to prevent Pregnancy and STD Transmission. And don't try to patronize me, many so-called believers spew out the same anti-sex-for-pleasure stuff, including Jimmy Swaggert,which shows their absolute vile hypocrisy.

[chrisman737]

@soeffingwhat, sex us obviously pleasurable, and that is a good. If you read my post, I never said that sex is only about procreation. I said sex is PRIMARILY for procreation. I highly recommend you read a good book on Pope John Paul II's "Theology of the Body" to understand how the Church's teaching on contraception logically flows from the natural law. A good way to begin to is read a very short book entitled "Theology of the Body Made Simple" by Christopher West.

[LogosTheos]

@chrisman737, So even if the two people are under the unification of holy marriage sex with a condom is a sin? Please be critical

[pdynamics1]

@chrisman737:  Ya, the only problem is "Theology of the Body" is hard to read. But I know what you are talking about.

[chrisman737]

@pdynamics1, thanks for your great comments. "Theology of the Body" is not hard to read if you try something like "Theology of the Body Made Simple."  But you are correct about the original text -- it is not easy reading. But there are so many couples out there who teach "Theology of the Body" and love living it. They make it easier for people to understand what it is all about.

[pdynamics1]

@chrisman737: Now here is a test: What about in the case of infertile or elderly couples who cannot procreate? Why are they permitted marriage?

[chrisman737]

@pdynamics1, in these cases you are talking about the absence of something as opposed to the manipulation of the sexual act.

[pdynamics1]

@chrisman737:  So are you saying it's an EXCEPTION?

[pdynamics1]

@chrisman737: Correct! The problem is humans treat sex as a harmless indulgence and that's why prostitution, adultery, unwanted pregnancies, etc. is so prevalent in society. Very good, my friend. Finally, I am seeing some common sense wisdom rather than all this gutter talk on all these channels

[flabbyhabbybabby1]

Go Belgium!!

[skywize]

Hey kids! Today's word is.... Genocide! Can you say genocide? I hope the pope gets aids.

[GodisHEM]

The Pope has authority to maintain marriage not sex

all his claims are for marriage. Not games of media to provoke recalls for the past history. Let us see how many Jews are using condoms in canada to have houses just fro seeding more jews

[EliteDoomer]

Hell is reserved for the pope.

[sfsTrader]

i have used condoms hundreds of times, never failed for me.

im glad noone actually listens to the pope, including every Catholic i ever knew.

[bresophil]

@sfsTrader

Unfortunately that does not apply to many of the Catholics in Africa...

[Darcsied27]

I never would wish death on anyone before because its a terrible thing to do but i wish death upon this pope for his Reckless Actions. Some of the stupidity in this world makes me tear up.

[Misterb0z]

The Catholic Church's stance on condom use beggars belief. Their own 'solution' is as absurd as trying to reduce road accident fatalities by telling people not to use seat-belts but to instead 'abstain' from using cars.

And it all stems from their belief that their omnipotent God's plans can be thwarted by a jolly-bag!

[refriedbeansinc]

knowledge and intelligence than a group of Harvard students performing a study isn't thinking strait.

The virus can sometimes penetrate the latex. Also the condoms often reach the people in bad condition as in they've dried. This makes them even less efective.

Ask any scientist if they would have sex with someone who had aids as long as a condom was used and see how much confidence they have in them.

[refriedbeansinc]

Actualy what the pope said is based on a Harvard study. Anyone who claims to have more information or

[twholland1]

@ksr1219

Emotionally involved? I'm not the one taking potshots at the arguer rather than the argument.

At this point all you're doing is taking certain words and running with them until you hit the end of the chain. "Let him say..." is a figure of speech, not exactly a linchpin of what I was saying.

I've decided you've become a waste of time, you won't be hearing from me anymore. Goodbye.

[twholland1]

@ksr1219

The fact that his teachings are logical relative to his religion doesn't exempt his words from being terrible. It's "logical" for a fundy christian to firebomb and abortion clinic according to his beliefs.

If someone is causing the harm of others, outcry seems to be a rational response to me.

Let him say that abstinence and/or monogamous relationships are best, but the fact remains that condoms are an effective tool in the struggle. To say otherwise is untruthful and insidious.

[twholland1]

@ksr1219

We don't get rid of the police because people shouldn't commit crimes.

We can't preach to get rid of condoms and simply not have sex. Since people are going to have sex, they should use condoms.

Morals have NOTHING to do with condoms. Abstinence, polygamy, consensual, homosexual, I don't give a damn. You still can not get away from the fact that condoms help stop the spread of STDs.

You can insult me all you want, it doesn't make you less wrong.

[twholland1]

@ksr1219

The pope is saying that the use of condoms is responsible for an increase in the HIV/AIDS rate. This is false. By teaching this message he is spreading misinformation, thereby causing harm to people.

I don't know what you think I'm trying to argue, but I can't spell it out more clearly than that.

OF COURSE not having sex will protect you from STDs. That's not the issue.

[twholland1]

@ksr1219

This isn't a black and white issue. If it were, the message of "condoms bad, abstinence good" might be logical. It's much more complicated than that.

First of all, your point that it's silly to be angry with someone for teaching a belief is wrong. I take it you are angry when islamist extremists preach messages which cause pain and suffering.

What it all boils down to is that the pope is using his influence to spread a message that is causing harm to others. That is why I'm mad.

[twholland1]

@ksr1219

If I "fail" then it's at understanding how telling people that using condoms increases the spread of AIDS, which is what the pope claimed. I don't know why you took so much offence from my comment as to get all defensive, but I stand behind what I said.

Whatever the real "focus" of his message was, it is pure madness to suggest that the reduction of condom use will help combat the spread of AIDS in any way.

[kubush]

Using condoms is NOT morally wrong. Ppl are in an uproar bcus the pope is causing ppl 2 suffer and die.

[raoskaos]

The pope should be shot for spreding his bronze-age mythology, and killing people with it's bullshit teaching.

[Rockster969]

No,because 100% abstinence is not possible and doesn't happen.

[twholland1]

@ksr1219

Preach abstinence all you want, but the undeniable reality is that people are going to have sex no matter what you do, so they may as well use condoms to prevent the spread of this awful disease.

[twholland1]

@Podo07

The use of condoms is not morally wrong unless you take the translated, edited, retranslated, re-edited, formalized, edited again, translated one last time, then finally edited again bible to be the ultimate source of morals, of which none can be disputed.

Do you also stone adulterers at the edge of town?

[blahfoshiz]

Ok, if they stop using condoms, their not going to stop having sex. It's like telling people not to breath..... Not going to happen.

[TheWhatever41]

Jan 29th 2010 -- Bill Gates (atheist) and Melinda Gates announced plans Friday to invest $10 billion in the fight against a number of illnesses including AIDS and said the record donation could save nearly nine million lives.

in a related story the Vaticans "the pope" won't even give the starving dying buggers a rubber, let alone any of his billions

[atmchickluva]

The pope is a closet homosexual and former Nazi. How does one cover-up the pedophilia in his own church, but condemns the use of condoms to prevent AIDS in Africa. It seems like the only people that follow this heathen are the people that kiss statues of Mary. These Catholics have their reward.

[s0l1dsnak3123]

Sorry, when should you take advice from a man who claims to be a descendant of a desciple of Jesus Christ. For God's sake (no pun intended), he's just an old man with backward views!

[raccoonman14]

okay....and were supposed to take advice from Pope " Lets invade Poland" Beneddict.

[harlosik13]

HAS THE POPE EVER HAS SEX?

lets get advice on condoms NOT from a virgin. 40 year old virgin was funny 80 year old virgin is just sad

[ssjgerbil]

the hitler youth pope loves aids infested nigger children

[JamesThWilliams]

No he is not, he is not my equal, when I was a child I still knew the difference between right and wrong inherently. I would not have reported Jewish people to the authorities in germany when I was small child. Therefor I am better than him.

[Aaberg123]

@JamesThWilliams

As much as I detest the Pope, could you please provide a source for those accusations?

[JamesThWilliams]

He also reported Jews to the authorities, many people had much stronger moral values and did not do so. It proves his personal moral compas is weak if not broken entirely.

[abcd429]

I go to a Catholic school and am currently doing a Study of Religion assignment on the ethical issue of using condoms as a method of Aids prevention. I feel bad going to a Catholic school and doing an assignment about how the pope is WRONG to tell people not to use them and i truely think condoms are a neccesary means of Aids prevention. my school is so going to hell lol Study of Religion basically tells you the church is wrong haha

[priest008]

You are lost in modern Othoproxy, just because people are using something and it's effective, it doesn't make it right. Reasearch how the Church is doing well with Absitinence classes in Africa and you will see how effective it has become, by allowing Afrcians to use condoms we will make them lazy idiots like ourselves giving them a thought that now they can have multiple partners because they are "SAFE"

[JamesThWilliams]

You're a douche. Sex is not wrong, controlling the lives of others and passing off religious dogma as fact is wrong.

[erlock21]

see i find this funny all the catholics saying hes right...but what happened to big catholic families...methinks they dont practice what they preach....but that what always happens with hypocrites

[alvinaalvina]

The pope couldnt be more right. if you use and condom and have oral sex then are u protected from aids? no. this is what is happening. the use of condom has given these ppl a false sence of security. self discipline is the need and not condoms.

[JamesThWilliams]

Actually oral sex can only lead to the spread of aids if the person using their mouth has an open wound. The mouth and digestive system wipe out just about any virus including hiv/aids. Dumbass.

[ilkinond]

How dare you catholic bitch - the pope is a cunt.

[ilkinond]

The pope is a lying irresponsible scumbag whose anti condom policy is costing millions of lives. I think politicians of the EU and entire world should have the moral courage to condemn him and his crappy church for their wickedness in this regard.

[ilkinond]

What do I know about it? I know that Ratty was a member of it and that his shitty church never had the moral courage to come out and directly condemn the Holocaust. That's what I know about the poop and his horrid bunch of followers.

[ilkinond]

The Pope is a proponent of a wickedly irresponsible policy that is costing lives and spreading disease and poverty. How dare you suggest that he is better than anyone who posts here. He is a coward and hypocrite whose moral codes betray his training in the Hitler Youth. Shame and damnation on him, his policies, and his church.

[ilkinond]

Disgusting that this creep should say the WHO is imposing its will on Africans without consulting them. When did the filthy catholic church ask Africans if they minded being told they cannot use condoms and must risk AIDS if they don't practice abstinence? Spit on this hypocritical filth.

[kiriakufromcyprus]

The morality of billions over 2000 years? Maybe so but that doesn't mean their right. Truth is not democratic, there were times when everyone "knew" that the Earth was flat. How can you an infinite punishment for a finite crime. If they had sex outside of marriage (which btw isn't the morality of everyone) then they deserve eternal death? And also, how can God be so loving and merciful when he will punish those who commit finite crimes with eternal torment? I don't I like this God fellow.

[kiriakufromcyprus]

So according to you, human life is only sacred as long as you obey the rules. Really they deserve to die just because they don't act within you narrow morality? I was wondering for a while, why can't the Pope still be against sex outside of marriage, but still advise use of contraception if they do? Maybe like you, he thinks that sinners deserve death too. I thought Jesus preached love towards all, including sinners. Maybe the Pope should pay more attention to what Jesus actually preached.

[justcornelius]

yes and in a perfect world there would be no disease, the rivers would flow with honey and money would grow on tress.

the fact is we are human and humans have sex .. he could hace said.. "i dotn agree with sex outside of marriage but those that do indulge in this activity should protect themselves"

instead he tells a continant crippled with HIV not to use condoms.... what an arsehole

[Marco81MX]

Tell that to the +2000000 people who die of aids every year in africa alone.

[hockeyfighter21]

wow the pope is such an evil man. he says that he wants people to follow Christ and not give in to sexual temptations and keep sex within marriage and be open to the possibility of life. wow what an evil man (sarcasm)

[venakew]

Telling every single person in Cameroon or something to never have sex until they get married is not a viable solution to Aids:condoms are(ps you don't have to tell people your being sarcastic in brackets)

[superjeff14]

i love the way brits say condom

[SAINThoodSEEKER]

The Pope delivers a unique avenue for Africa...and people are offended by this? This is astonishing. It's only advice, it's not as if he is the dictator and his advice must be followed or else.

Could it be that critics don't like the examination of their own consciences that naturally occurs when a moral lesson is taught? Is all this hatred more defensiveness as opposed to simple disagreement? I think you know the answer

[kiriakufromcyprus]

The Catholic Church has a large influence in Africa, many health centers can't distribute because of the opposition from the church. According to the director of AIDS center in Lwak near Lake Victoria said that some priests even say that condoms "are laced with HIV". I'm sorry, but Pope Benedict views make him unfit to have any authority over anything, his views are unworthy of any respect from society. Fuck the Pope! Am I being offensive? I do hope so.

[TheMedievalMan]

@kiriakufromcyprus I support the Pope. AIDS is a good natural nigger control.

[justcornelius]

cos if they dotn use condoms they will die.. they are not going to stop having sex.

it hard enough to get them to use condoms as it is without this arsehole telling them not to

[NinaRaemaekers]

there are quite some researches showing (way before the Pope did) that the use of condoms doesn't bring down the spread of the hiv virus.

unaids didn't want to publish the result of a research they started.

one quick google on Dr. Hearst and Chen will tell you more.

get informed...

[JonnyFlash80]

@NinaRaemaekers

I work with STD cases for a living and I say this is bullshit.

You get informed... with the correct information. Don't believe the churches propaganda regarding condoms.

[SAINThoodSEEKER]

Maybe, but that's not the entire issue. The Pope's message also deals with monogamy and sterilization. The AIDS virus is just the tip of the iceburg.

[justcornelius]

how fucking stupid

ofcourse condoms protect against disease.. all ppl i know who use condoms dont have an STD.. the 3 ppl i know that do have hiv all got it through having unprotected sex

i suggest u leave google alone and get a grip

[Oceanus57]

The more beserk the pope is, and the more obviously out of sync with reality and the modern world, the quicker religion leaves the collective consciousness.

So the pope's a reactionary bigot, and an "I was only doing what I was required to do" ex-nazi.

This is just what the world needs in a pope. Someone who can't be taken seriously. Someone who discredits the religious perspective every time he opens his stupid mouth.

He is truly a great religious leader..

[19lfm12]

This is precisely the problem: Ratzinger & his cronies disgust ppl & make them reject God - rather then gently guide men to God.

Thus they do the "Devil's work":)

Now you are free to believe/dis-believe whatever you wish in re God & Xtianity.

But the big issue is that they (Vatican) are effectively acting as disinformation agents.

[RockyBalboa211]

God bless the pope!

[libramadchen]

what god?

[19lfm12]

az isten bassza meg a bu"do"s ru"csko"s kurva anya'dat

[eutuve]

The church, however, was silent

Since 1981 when AIDS was first described the personal tragedies and social failures associated with the disease appear to have been largely ignored by the church - except for those strident segments that view AIDS as Gods retribution on a sinful people

This silence may imply assent to the view that certain populations (gay and bisexual men, drug addicts, prostitutes) deserve the disease and it's horrible death

[19lfm12]

Theologically, any death is God's will. BUT.....that does not mean that we should not take all necessary & reasonable steps to help the sick & dying!

To be silent in the face of AIDS - still worse to maintain the smug "they deserve it" attitude is sick & inhuman!

And to do what is needed as a public health measure to prevent a pandemic (intelligent use of condoms)....is truly a moral imperitive!

[libramadchen]

If Joseph had used a condom, Christianity wouldn't be existing today,.......but the sod didn't , - and now Christians have to live with that Mother-of-all-Hoaxes, - the Virgin Birth!

Now we atheists have to put up with millions of brainwashed religious jerks, plus some ex-Nazi telling people to keep on "doing a Joseph".

[Oceanus57]

Hey, why blame it on Joseph? Maybe he was just a nice guy who believed his girlfriend when she told him she was pregnant by an angel and stood by the sneaky, horny little madam.

[libramadchen]

no no, - Joe knocked up Mary, - her parents were furious, they disowned her & ordered Joe to take Mary to some other place and have the baby, just to avoid the local village scandal. In the meantime The 3 Wise Men (a vaudeville-travelling show) saw a "triple conjunction" in the heavens and believed it to be some kind of omen, and following it's path led them to some Bethlehem reality show called "I'm Having a Baby", - and Mary was 1 of the contestants, - (cos' they needed the money..) & then...

[Oceanus57]

Ah, sorry, I didn't realise I was addressing someone who was such a big Bible scholar!

[libramadchen]

yeah, - I have my copy of "Bible for Dummies" with me at all times. Very useful info in there!

Hmm, - come to think of it, - the bible WAS written FOR dummies in the 1st place.....I think I just got ripped-of by Wiley Publishing.....

[apdart]

Abstinence and education is the answer. not raining condoms all over Africa!

[dkrustyklown]

Your poor grasp of the law is amazing. Tell me, what school system produced an imbecile such as yourself?

[drServitus]

The pope is an evil fucking peace of dog shit. HE is speaking on morality? Well FUCK the POPE. Moral direction from a man who heads an organization that lead a global campaign to hide and protect hundreds of child molestors? Take moral direction from him? Catholics have to be the most stupid fucking people on this planet.

[brzozowski5]

christians are fucking stupid and i should know i grew up in a catholic household fucking dumbasses

[venom55520]

for real

[terryts2]

what people fail to realizes is their lack of common sense. I mean, there are documented cases where condoms were used, but the woman STILL GOT PREGNANT!!!! shouldn't that tell people something? The more i think about it, the more right the pope looks. quit blaming him because he's right on this. people say condoms are a good way to go, WAKE UP. not doing it is the best way to not get AIDS, but no....we have to have sex. I swear, the worlds comming to an end because people are stupid

[itstitsmagee]

RE:"there are documented cases where condoms were used, but the woman STILL GOT PREGNANT!!!!shouldn't that tell people something?"- it does tell us something- condoms can fail, just like it says on the back of the box!!!

according to his religion people can have virgin births- according to science, you need both sperm and an egg to make a baby-you talk about common sense but lack it completely- is it not possible that woman came in contact with the sperm BEFORE the condom was used or it broke?

[terryts2]

dude, don't bring religion into this. And it is possible to have a virgin birth. Youre just complicating the issue, and how am i lacking common sense? all sex is is a baby making process, and the risk is getting infected with AIDS, so my suggestion is don't do it until you want a baby, while society says use a condom. It is possible that the woman came into contact, but its also possible to use a condom and still get pregnant.

[amaqula]

It is people's own promiscuous behaviour that causes the spread of AIDS. Not the Pope.

Sorry secularists. You are just looking for someone to blame because you can't have your cake and eat it. Grow up and take responsibility for your actions and their consequences!:p

[19lfm12]

You heartless idiot!

The Africans are getting AIDS from HETERO sex within marriage! In fact, in the Western world, most cases are now HETERO.

Ratzinger is a very sick man. He knows full well what he is doing: condemning millions of "mud ppl" to a horrid, yet readily preventable death.

Due to the public health crisis is Africa, condoms are a moral necessity - an act of charity!

"I desire MERCY , not sacrifice!"

- Jesus Christ

[amaqula]

No the reality is that only a change in peoples promiscuous behaviour will put a stop to the spread of AIDS. But you don't like to hear that do you?

Your so-called condom compassion has done nothing but aggravate the spread of AIDS. It is now out of control because of selfish do-gooders like you who only want to use the epidemic to attack the Pope you clearly hate so so much.

[19lfm12]

How fucking stupid are you? We are talking about AFRICA - where AIDS is mostly being transmitted by sex within MARRIAGE!

The use of condoms for this EMERGENCY in Africa is a dire necessity.

As to this "pope" - he is NOT of God. He is an unrepentent former Nazi who has opnely & publicly blasphemed God - at Auschwitz in 2005.

He does NOT represent Christ in any way - figuratively or spiritually.

[amaqula]

Don't lie please! Africans have all the condoms they could possibly want and still AIDS is spreading. Some chemists don't even have aspirin but they DO have crate loads of condoms - thanks to condom obsessed people like you.

Did you know that in India the builders mix the crate loads of donated condoms with tar. It makes a great road surface I hear.

[19lfm12]

I pity you - for only utter hate of your Black bretheren would cause you to say such things.

The painfully obvious balance of evidential truth is clearly against what you say.

[19lfm12]

Jesus fed the multitudes - many times. All of them: those who believed & those who didn't. And those who hated/spied on Him. He did not judge them: He saw & attended to their physical need.

He taught us to do likewise. "Feed" the person first. Then - and only then...if he is freely willing to listen, teach him with utter tenderness of spirituality without 'lecturing'.

Those who are of Christ will understand this.

[wills24]

wtf are u saying i have know idea wtf ur saying! ur an idiot go and kill urself ok! to just my eyes from reading this idiocy ive read the bible i didnt even know wth ur saying

[19lfm12]

Sadly you are neither familiar with Scripture, Christ's mission & teachings........or coherent English.......

[wills24]

excuse me? i was wondering how that quote from the bible actually related to what the pope did. I am familiar with scripture and it just didnt make sense at all to put that quote there

[ohsnap31]

The pope is a dangerous ignorant man who is spreading ignorance and hate. He should be arrested for hate speech.  He is killing people and causing abortions. He is a very evil man. May he rot on earth - there is no heaven or hell.

[camino15]

Gods not real you fucking dipshit

[solsistah99]

Let all the Catholics stop using condoms and then the pope can set up an AIDS hospital to treat them, so kind and generous they are.

[kansaimagic]

religious bastards again trying to tell people what NOT to do. religionfactreport(dotcom)

[luis1coelho]

the Pope is right, the laws of God are not to be changed by simple men...so therefore condoms are a grave sin and never a solution to HIV/AIDS problem. the solution lays on education and abstinence. simple as...you either a catholic and obey Gods Laws or you follow satan...your choice !!!

[camino15]

you are one sick person.

[19lfm12]

Agreed. Dogmatic approval of the readily preventable death of millions is more then sick:

It is criminally insane.

[KushKrashBOOM]

OR...

We dont believe in such bullshit...

[libramadchen]

"luis" is yr real name George W.Bush by any chance? Is this how u pass yr time now in Texas, - writing stupid comments on YouTube??

[RockyBalboa211]

God bless the catholic faith!

[plimbuff]

Religion does more harm than good, not to mention "God" has never even been close to proven. Religious people are such idiots.

I say we each Jizz in a condom and mail it to the pope!

[judoyodan]

Christianity is nearing an end.

Only so long can the mantle of ignorance be maintained that is necessary for such ridiculous beliefs. As long as they continue to deny evolution, claim the Bible is factual and the earth is 6000 years old, they will continue to lose constituents.

I say good riddance.

[PersephoneSwimming]

i agree, well said, and i think it's a sign that we're entering into the next phase of societal evolution. religions are so out of touch with what humans really need, they only care about passing on the program and making people obedient. i hope all over the world people continue to reject fake spirituality for one that really helps us heal our pain and make a better world. it's very simple actually & we don't need to swallow an elaborate belief system in order to be happy now nor eternally.

[breathelove27]

i donnot find anything wrong wih what the pope said just that the whole is roten with funication and adultry everybody is odssessed with sex if we should live the way God wants us to live being faithful to our partners and doing an HIV test b4 marriage every one will fine it easier

[niceguyjin76]

unbelievable. more proof that religious fundamentalists do not have a grasp on reality. his extremist comments may well do more harm than those actions taken by his more violent counterparts.

[plimbuff]

Religion does more harm than good, not to mention "God" has never even been close to proven. Religious people are such idiots.

I say we each Jizz in a condom and mail it to the pope!

[Lazewski]

2012.

If you know nothing about the predictions for 2012, one of the predictions was our last war ( World War 3 ) is going to be with Isreal, because of a pope.

[haddockseyes]

People have always had sex, people are having sex, and people will keep on having sex. . . abstinence will help, of course, but it's definitely not a concrete answer. . . Condom will help, the Pope's clearly delusional and that goes for his devout followers too

[mdjbm]

what kind of pathetic human being lets a religious leader tell them how to have sex? people need to start thinking for themselves, and stop letting other men order them to do things they don't think is right. if the pope doesn't approve of condoms, then he shouldn't use them. but don't tell me what i can or can't use.

[hotae333]

the poop said he has fun without them

[crinoid1918]

religious institutions are poison

[alearg89]

And there is also a direct shoot of her at : 2:07 to 2:13

WHO IS SHE?

[alearg89]

From 0:56 to 1:10 there is a tall woman in a dress in the background, Who is she? can someone tell me please? i saw her in many different videos and i think she came in the same airplane as the pope, am i correct?

[chewallday123]

Well if you guys paid any attention or even thought about it for one second he means that if people didnt have condoms they wouldnt be having as much sex with people thus helping get rid of aids

[Luvie1980]

Sex is a part of life. I am sick of peolple believing that it's not. Not everyone wants to get married and have children.

[dkrustyklown]

If you do not want children, then you should not have sex.

Sex has only ONE legitimate purpose, which is procreation.

Any other use for sex is COMPLETELY FRIVOLOUS and UNNECESSARY. No one NEEDS casual sex in order to live. It's people who have UNNECESSARY sex that get most of the STD's, so if they die, then I don't shed a tear for them because it was their fault in the first place.

[stephendanielssoup]

wow. heartless idiot... the worlds a sad place.

[venom55520]

i would say that sex is necessary. humans are social creatures and need sex to feel like they belong. by the way, sex has many other reasons besides children. an example would be bonobo primates use sex as a social practice, and they animals, so what does that tell you about us? we're too stuck in the past. religion is holding the world back.

[dkrustyklown]

You would say that sex is necessary, but your logic completely fails. When you say that you, "need" something, it should be about something without which you will die or suffer injury. Sex fits neither of these.

The worst possible consequence of not having sex is ejaculating while in sleep, which is neither injurious or lethal.

Bonobo's are the dumbest of all the chimps, They are the least likely to eat meat. They also live in substandard habitats because regular chimps push them away.

[venom55520]

bonobo's are peaceful, they aren't dumb, but i guess you wouldn't tell the difference if you believe in religion.

now you need sex for psychological benefits. every time one orgasms, you get a rush of endorphins that you wouldn't get legally. the only high close to it is a heroin high. endorphins make you feel good. they make you feel better about yourself. now, you can preach abstinence, but we live in the 21st century, so it would be great if people like you grow up.

[tosh602]

no because there are people with aids that are stillgoing to have sex....and if someones has aids they shouldn't have sex that's not realistic

[boots920]

What authority does the Catholic church have. The "church" covered up pedophile priests raping little children.

The catholic church needs to end they have zero cred.