I think that those of you people claiming that he does not know what he is talking about have not actualy watched his videos and if you claim that you did, just name some points that he got wronge.
@MrInseine what do you mean targeting schools? It's an educational video. Also evolution does not negate the need for a god. That is one of the most idiotic things I have heard.
@MrInseine No No No No No. You Britisher sounds like a fundamentalist American. Everything that is British contradicts your assuertion that Evolution negates the need for God. But some people can simply use it as part of their arguement that, at best, god only created the Universe and left everything to the laws of Nature. An thus YOU were created. Which means YOU just contradicted your own evolved existence. I think you're funny.
@MrInseine By the way. You are right about this video. That it was made for schhools. Therefore it TARGETS schools where we will find (though I'm not nor do I want to look) school CHILDREN. If you have ever been to a school you will have noticed that the education system actively and constantly endeavous to TRAIN UP the way he/she SHOULD GO. Otherwise we'd end up with millions of the Lords of the Flies. Are you one?
If you watch these potholer54 videos, and still don't believe that evolution has been happening and still is, you're too indoctrinated or intellectually challenged to understand and accept the truth.
And with so much so called "evidence", one would think the idea that Humans evolved from Apes would be PROVEN by now..lol..but of course it hasn't..nor has the Darwinian Evolution theory that all living beings evolved from a Fish..A fish?? Really?? Lmao...& in order to explain the 1st life, you must explain the origin of the information necessary to produce the 1st single living cell..and of course Scientists don't have the answer to this either..*sigh*
Hey, kiddos, want to see a fairy tale that adults really believe? Google whale evolution and go watch a 7 minutes video on the PBS web site that shows how an ancient 200 pound wolf searched for food along the beach, wander out into the surf, and morphed (evolved) into a 100 ton whale. There is nothing scientific about it, but nonetheless, this is the fairy tale that some adults really believe! Especially comical are the nostrils migrating to the top of the head to become a blow hole!
Larger heads - do people with large heads have more children? I think not. There's a correlation between cranial size and intelligence, but do smart people have more children? I'm not aware of any research that's been done it (although I'm sure it's there!), but it would be fun to confirm/refute the claim put forth in the movie Idiocracy!
@alagodny28: Remember do onto others what you would have do onto yourself. Were you aiming to smear Potholer54's education. Children would laugh at anything, but maybe they were laughing at you not with you. :)
Evolution is scientific fact, and is backed up by evidence, religion is not evidence based it relies on faith. Faith is a strong belief in something which is not backed up by proof.
Now please, can you shut up about my beliefs which you haven't a clue about and just sit back and enjoy a good video? I doubt potholer cares for your incessant crap on his video. How about actually commenting the vid, as I have.
Thank you, potholer, from a theist, for what has been a very informative and enjoyable set of videos on evolutionary theory. It is much appreciated. While we certainly may not agree on theological terms, I can say that I agree on basically scientific terms. Some would see religion as always contradicting science. The beliefs I adhere to do not restrict me in any such way.
@StorminMormin91 You see, in the LDS faith, we search for truth come from where it may, and continue to look to the latest in science to explain the natural world around us, while leaving theology and our belief in divine revelation to explain our relationship to Deity and how we can serve the people around us. We do not think there needs to be some unbridgeable gap between science and religion. Rather, it is usually our own misperceptions of either that cause the misconceptions.
@StorminMormin91 ahahahaa doorman! It must be hard to live with yourself to know that science is true then to go back to your CULT and LIE to yourself about FALSENESS of the Mormon cult beliefs. Or is it easy to dismiss the FACTS that your Church of Joseph Smith was concocted by a Sexual Predator, Polygamist, & Charlatan who took advantage of people's religious beliefs. How can you deny the overwhelming Evidence against your Cult & embrace science? hahah Delusional!
@StorminMormin91 AAHAHAHA DoorminMormon!!! Richard Dawkins said something similar about Mormonism ahahaha! SCIENCE & MORMONISM doesn't go together so quit lyin to yourself & to people! KOLOB, Nephites, Lamanites, Indians, Jesus in the USA, Adam God Doctrine, Book of Abraham, Silver Book, Secret names & hand shakes, Magic Thongs ahahahah!!!! Maybe science can prove to the Mormons that 'Negroes' are not cursed!!!
@StorminMormin91 I don't have Magic Mormon thongs but mormons wear them! AHAHAH!!! Hey does the Magic Undies come in different colors?? hehehehehe ahahah!
But your religion does indeed restrict the acceptance of evolution as the means of creation, especially in light of authoritarian pronouncements which declare that organic evolution is not the source of human beings. Mormon doctrine is quite clear. Adam & Eve were the first human beings, there was no death of any human prior to them as there were no people on the earth prior to them. So I'm afraid you are indeed held hostage by your beliefs. Mormonism is quite absurd.
@ExmormonFoundation Wrong. There is no official view of the Church on evolution, and if you actually knew the history, there has been apostles and members on both sides. Mormon doctrine does not say that the biblical story of creation needs to be taken literally in every sense. Only that which has been clearly revealed and pronounced. Adam and Eve could exist and yet we could still have evolution. It says death, but does not clarify if it is physical or rather spiritual death, which is plausibl
Sorry stormy, but you're stuck with a literal interpretation of Adam & Eve. From the temple, to the Bible and D&C, Mormons are bound by a literal Adam & Eve in a literal Garden of Eden in Jackson County Missouri no doubt. Without a literal Adam and Eve, how could there be a fall? How could sin and death be introduced into the world if they were not literal beings partaking of literal fruit? No, you are stuck with the literal and absurdly unfounded position that Adam and Eve were real.
Add to that the teachings of Brigham Young that Adam & Eve were resurrected beings who came to the earth, and began the human race through copulation, not evolution. You are stuck. Despite FAIR & FARMS's best efforts to excuse away the contradictions between the evidence and Mormon theological claims, Mormons must believe in a literal Adam & Eve with no descent from prior hominids. You can excuse and confabulate all you want, but Mormon doctrine is very clear, despite your apologetics.
Next you'll be declaring that there was no global flood & that Kolob is not really the light source for the sun as stated in the Book of Abraham. The claims of Mormonism are literalistic in nature. The problem for you and your Mormon cohorts is that the evidence soundly debunks Mormon claims as well as those made throughout other fundamentalist Christian sects and cults the world over. Your literalism is both your downfall & key to escaping such nonsense. Here's to your continued enlightenment!
@ExmormonFoundation speculation, never claimed it to be doctrine, said it was not necessary for our salvation, and there was no agreement upon it by the governing Church bodies.
Again, I don't have to do or believe anything that you miscreants say I do. Now enough with your fallacies and ad nauseum assertions that aren't based in any verifiable fact. You Ex-Mo's are really disappointing.
Alright stormy, when in a corner, obfuscate, deny & pretend. It worked for many of us for many years too. The comments are germane to the video as they show the absolute religious nonsense which is continually shoved further and further to the side in the light of overwhelming evidence which shows those beliefs, doctrines, pronouncements etc. to be utterly absurd and unfounded when countered by evidence. Mormonism too founders on the rocks of evidence, especially that of evolution. Good luck!
One would think that the "one true galactic truth" would actually get something right instead of having to defer, recant or ignore its positions when exposed to the glaring light of scientific inquiry and verifiable evidence. From global floods to the origins of mankind, Mormonism & other like religious systems the world over have gotten nothing correct. As science advances, religions change their stance in order to survive. So much for "divine" revelation from the purveyors of religion.
@ExmormonFoundation I agree entirely. It seems to me that the Bible was more often taken literally before scientific advancements. Now it appears that Christians have to justify their beliefs, or find ways to skirt around certain criticisms relying on multiple interpretations of the same text. If it were a "galactic truth"- it should have had more relevance to how reality works.
" It seems to me that the Bible was more often taken literally before scientific advancements"
Ah, but the major problem with religion and religious people is that they more often tend to just thump on the Bible then actualy read it.
For Example I have no Idea how they get a "65000 year earth" when Adam to Noah is 14,000ish years and Noah to Jesus is another 4000ish and in the Psalms there is a peom aboout a civilization before Humans ruin cities in a Sxorched Earth (outside "Eden")
@ExmormonFoundation so no, EXMOFO, I'm afraid you really don't know Mormonism as well as you put off. Apparently you should have actually stayed in the church and studied it out a little longer.
PotHoler54, you may want to update your "last known common ancestor between humans and neanderthals" timeline due to the article in the May 7 print edition of Science
The missing link isn't missing, it doesn't exsist. If your looking for answers just understand it was all created. Simple no hard work or argument, God spoke and all things were made that were made. I know it comes down to what you want to believe, but actually it is God believes about you...
@eternaloutlook The missing link doesn't exist because evolution doesn't work that way. Every one that has lived and procreated is a link to the ancestors. You are a link to the future if you procreate.
Ehem and who are "you"? Someone who does not understand the meaning of "Ape"? TBH, the video creator is not "calling himself" anything out of scientific classification, as it is what it is. The specie "Humans" (as you yourself also use) IS a "great ape" and a part of the biological order known as "primates" (which means prime, first rank).
This is not an "ape" theory, it's the theory of Evolution. Which is far more logical than women coming from ribs.
A human being made in the image of God and proud of it. You or the man who calls himself an ape in this video do not define me; I'm not trying to define you. Read what I said again about choices, and come again.
I was going to give you an example that happened recently. An event where God helped me out of a tight spot. And before you tell me about coincidence, come with something original. Like I said, I cannot prove God to you. You ignore Him, so He's not going to force Himself upon you. I ask for help and I receive; not all the time, but that is not going to make God disappear to me. I was going to write out the example, but I like anonymity on the net. (cont'd)
You may not believe me, I don't believe most stories I hear. I don't know why God sometimes answers me, and sometimes not, but I know He is there because these situations are impossible. I'm not brainwashed, I'm the only person left in my church my age, I didn't have to, of course, but things are ok this way. They won't be any better if I start following a bunch of apes who don't care whether I live or die, so thanks, but no thanks.
*sigh* I spent a long time this morning writing out the story and then deleting it, I would gladly email you with the story if you want. I don't make claims I can't backup.
@supercrevolution I have an experience that happened this week. My friend had to buy some badly needed items (5). Now the price was cheaper earlier in the yr, but he didn't have the money then. Anyhow, he got the money Mon, but then the price had gone up much too high, and it was that way for some wks past. So he was too tired to make the purchase the Tues, but decided to do it Wed. I prayed a simple prayer, Lord I know the prices go up but let it drop to the orig price just for today (contd
@supercrevolution (contd) The next day he called and said he made the purchase. Then he said that the price dropped just for him and went back up the next day! (praise the Lord!) And I said, I know!, I prayed just for that! This is just one of the many cases where God has come through in my and others' time of need. I can't make you see God. I have welcomed him in my life and he proves himself to me. Looking forward to your answer!
@artep2122 and some people got stuck in the middle ages... if u believe in the bible and jesus u also have to believe the earth is 5000 years old.... yeah of course...... why dont u believe in allah? oder in multple gods? is there any logical reason for this?
@ecreif Yes I believe that the earth is a few thousand years old, and I don't see how that is far fetched either. What I see as far fetched is your theory that the earth is millions of years old. Who is allah and why should I "believe" in him? Why do I need to "believe" in multiple gods, when I one I accept and follow supplies my needs? What other logical reasons are you looking for?
@artep2122 lol u dont know allah? thats the god muslims believe in.. dont u ask urself how so many religions occured that arent widely spread but very regional? if ur god would be the "right" god wouldnt he gave all human the same chance to find out whos the right god? but he didnt... so do u see how illogical religion is? there are of course many more reasons
@ecreif I know what allah is. I meant that it means nothing to me. And no I don't ask myself those questions because humans deny things even when they are right in front of them, they are wrong and strong. It's like how the Bible says the seventh day is the sabbath but people will argue that the first day is; it's like how a certain celebrity has plastic surgery all over, but she denies it and so do her fans, even though the proof is in front of them. Humans are like that. (contd)
@artep2122 i would say that only weak, blind and stupid people are like that. but i dont understand how that is a reason for u not to ask urself those questions?... other reasons: evolution, "who made god", many different religions, totally humanrelated religions what about aliens?.. religion makes people blind and lazy they live their lives waiting for the afterlife, wtf...
@ecreif I ask myself who made God, I ask myself why Jesus made the world knowing how it would turn out. I already explained why there will always be different religions, I accept God made people in other worlds, I don't live waiting for the afterlife, and many others don't. I live for now, focusing on things to make me happy. I don't see how humans evolved or any other creatures for that matter. Finally, humans can't know everything.
@artep2122 of course we cant know everything but we can try to get the best knowledge possible for the moment... the question "who made god" leads u to the answer that there is no god because this question chain "who made who" will go on forever and is therefore illogical. there is only one possible and logical answer: no one created anything, everything was already there.. think about. only thinking will get you closer to the truth
@ecreif I have to admit, your comment made me smile and laugh. The question of "who made what" leads me to who made the big bang or whatever and the everything that was already there. Even God himself said he was and is. He always was there, so how is what you said different? So you say that I don't think because I don't know the "truth"? You know, I've once heard I think too much.....
one never thinks to much. but okay i think i have to explain u even more. first think about what consequences it has if something was there for ever: u have to
know if something changes it means there is
time. so god would also be bound to time automatically. so if god "decided" to create the universe he had to wait for this decision for ever which means he could never have decided it. i can imagine only one way this could still work and that is to exactly repeat the world in a finite timeloop
@ecreif Humans deny things to make themselves feel good when they are in the wrong, nothing new. All religion is not illogical. What are your other reasons?
@ecreif Of course, Allah and Yahweh are the same God. It's all about which prophet/messiah you believe in which identify your religion for the Abrahamic faiths, and that is largely determined by region of birth or bloodline. That, obviously, includes Christians, Jews and Muslims and all the denominations therein.
@jacksawild ok that could be possible but what about buddhism and hinduism.. they werent in touch with the europeans and east asians that much therfore they developed their own religion.. which proves my statement. and what about indigeneos people? they have their own religions. so they come in hell because they cant ever read the bible? religion is such a bullshit
let's forget all this name-calling & personal opinions; would you evolutionists pls. cite, if any (you shouldn't have trouble quoting many) actual current scientific? projects, doctors/scientists, journals/papers (Nature magz, Scientific American, etc.) , published works, etc (cosmologists, molecular biologists, palaeontologists, physicists, astronomers, bio-chemists, etc. that actually back each other up) to once-and-for-all silence the deafeaning flaws & weakness in evolutionary theory?!??!
google them, there are only tens of thousands....you know, actually getting work done in laboratories and universities and using what they apply to further mankind
"to once-and-for-all silence the deafeaning flaws & weakness in evolutionary theory"
I am very interested in what journals YOU are reading that make you so emotional and obviously more informed than the vast majority of scientists. Scientific American, by the way, is not a scientific journal.
wait a sec....if we evolved form chimps then why the hell are there still chimps on the earth? Shouldn't they have died off like any other species that evolves? and How many of these skulls have they found of the common type of "ancestor"?
we didn't evolve from chimps. we evolved from an ape that chimps also evolved from. we also share a common ancestor with all apes, all monkeys, all life, however we didn't evolve from any modern species other than ourselves.
no not really, to be honest with you i get all of my theories of how the earth was created and man was born "made" or ""evolved" from the bible. ive been told that evolution was a lie and doesn't have any solid support to their claims so im now searching out answers and looking at all the different facts and proofs that proves either theory is correct/has any truth. So right now im just searching out looking for supportive claims/facts
ok, some transitional fossils after the split from the lineage that led to chimps include Homo erectus, Homo habilus, Australopithecus africanus, Australopithecus afarensis. those are all just on the lineage that led to humans. but while the fossil record has countless transitional fossils it still has gaps because fossilization is a rare event and finding those fossils is even rarer. most of the evidence supporting evolution is through genetics. have you heard of ERV's?
no what are ERV's? Im sorry i just briefly studied evolution in middle school n very little in biology/science in high school. I know very little about it. thank you for explaining it a little more in depth for me. Btw are you a teacher or just major in college?
my dads a biologist, my mom is a teacher, I'm in college.
ERV's are endogenous retroviruses. basically they happen when a virus infects a germ cell of a host and becomes inactive. this signiture is then passed on to the decendants of the host. insertion sites are random. so when humans and chimps share identical signatures and insertion sites the conclusion is that the common ancestor got the ERV and all of its descendants share the signature.
oh ok, thank you very much. I can see you've dedicated many hours of study to this subject. thank you for sharing the knowledge and explaining it a little more for me.
you can go farther than just humans and chimps though, we also share many with gorillas, a few fewer with orangutans, and a few fewer still with gibbons, etc.the ones shared by all of us are very ancient insertions, the few unique to humans are very recent additions to our genome.
@JD12111211 In my opinion you shouldn't take the bible as factual history no matter what you believe. Consider the fact that it was written by and for people that lived more than 2000 years ago. I doubt that their language and knowledge allowed for a real understanding of the universe. You can't really believe that God just snapped His fingers and everything came to be. I mean there must be more to it and we don't even understand how it all works let alone how it came to be.
@JD12111211 to continue I'd like to congratulate you for trying to discover things on your own. I personally believe science and religion are not two opposite things. If you want to understand more about that I'd like to recommend a couple of books:
"Finding Darwin's God[...]" by Kenneth R. Miller a biologist and "Contact" by Carl Sagan. The second one is a work of fiction, so you should consider it as that and nothing more, but I found reading it to be an interesting experience.
« I personally believe science and religion are not two opposite things »
I believe they are, in at least one important aspect: science is based on observation, while religion expects you to believe a thing despite (the lack of) any observation. I believe that the notion of the non-overlapping magisteria is false: religion *does* make statements about actuality, and these *are* therefore subject to scientific investigation.
I'm sorry to say but you sound just as a creationist in your comment. If you refer to the statement "God created the heavens and the earth" then go ahead and prove it wrong. According to Kant you can't, no more so than to prove it right. And that's exactly my point: religion is not a scientific theory that you can name true or false. Nor is it meant to be treated that way. Making the bible into literally truth is the fallacy of creationists and you can't expose their ignorance by falling into it
And here we come to another disparity between religion and science: religion deals in revelation, which is supposed to be taken at face value, as an undisputable fact. Science, on the other hand, deals in models, that can be more or less accurate, but always just models of reality. Another problem is that when theists say "prove me wrong", they implicitly define their god as to preclude any means of ever detecting it.
But, in the end, the "prove me wrong" type of argument is a direct attack on the validity of the scientific method. After all, if we discard scientific theories and hypotheses as merely conjecture, we make *every* possible 'explanation' as likely as the next.
Concluding, there is not some boundary beyond which science may not or cannot operate: if it exists, and affects observable reality, then it is subject to scientific investigation. If it does not exist, or it does not affect observable reality (same thing, really), then it is irrelevant.
« religion is not a scientific theory that you can name true or false »
But religions make statements about reality that are either true or false. And those claims usually go way beyond 'there exists something forever beyond our capability to detect (which would make it irrelevant)'. Aside from the miracles which are supposed to have happened, the creation of a universe would be a real event, and therefore testable, even if only theoretically so.
I never said "prove me wrong".. I said "prove it wrong". My personal beliefs are rather far from anything you could call mainstream religion and I'm rather happy with keeping them to myself.
As for the rest I already made my point. You seem either unable or unwilling to grasp things outside the realm of science so there's no way for us to discuss what is clearly a philosophical matter.
The point I am making is this: is the statement that a god exists and created the universe really outside the realm of science? I say not. It is a statement about something real, something that exists, something that has an impact on observable reality, and therefore testable even if only in principle.
The statement that God exists is not only outside the realm of science but outside the realm of philosophy. I think Immanuel Kant made this point quite clear so if you're not convinced by his work there's really nothing I could add.
The statement that God created the universe is quite abstract. If you mean in the biblical sense then I already explained one must be rather ignorant to believe it ad literam. If you mean in a broad sense then there's no axiom to prove we should find evidence he did
« statement that God exists is not only outside the realm of science »
And again, if a god exists, and affects observable reality, then the claim that it does is testable in principle, and subject to scientific methodology. If a god exists but does not affect observable reality, then the point is moot, and the god in question irrelevant to us.
You are a rather narrow minded individual. You keep saying if he "affects observable reality".. well what about things we can't observe ? The easiest example that comes to mind is the moment before the big bang. We might never be able to observe that.
Or what about things that we could "observe" but we don't? I mean it's not like we can keep track of every atom on the planet.. let alone in the universe. God is supposed to be a sentient being not a natural phenomenon. How can you observe that ?
If such a time exists, and it affects observable reality, then it is testable through observation. Keep in mind that we infer the nature of such events through observations, we do not observe the events themselves.
And again, if your claim is that a god exists but hides itself to such an extent that all the observations it supposedly contributed to can also and more elegantly be explained through naturalistic models, then how is the claim relevant or useful in any way? One might as well claim that the universe was created 10 seconds ago.
« The statement that God created the universe is quite abstract »
The universe is a tangible reality. And if something exists beyond the universe that affects the universe, then that too is real and testable. Moreover, most religions hold that their gods have performed works within the universe.
But all those arguments are besides the point. And I feel like no amount of arguing could bring this any closer. You stick to your narrow reasoning like christians to their dogma. So I'm sorry to say but I don't really see any reason to continue this discussion.
But the point I was making is that religion isn't a science and as such it doesn't or shouldn't be applied to anything that's already covered by scientific knowledge. In my opinion religion should be something focused on the world within.
Even the bible has a rather small part of it dedicated to the creation of the universe compared to the rest of it which is mostly dedicated to social and (other) philosophical issues. And you can't judge the whole of it on the literally accuracy of part of it.
« And you can't judge the whole of it on the literally accuracy of part of it »
I agree with that. Then again, the bible as a whole contains many contradictions, and whatever values one derives from it can only be derived after some fairly loose interpretation and lifting out of context. One might as well do away with the bible and consider the propositions one wishes to hold on to on an individual basis.
Not that I hold the bible in such a high regard.. on the contrary. But I feel that if I can make a point for Christianity then it applies even more so to other, more illuminated religions.
What might confuse you is the differences in nomenclature used in cladistics and normal spoken English.
In cladistics species are labeled according to the subsets they've differentiated into as time went by.
In that sense we are humans, who are a kind of ape, that is a kind of monkey, that is a kind of mammal, that is a kind of fish, that is a kind of vertebrate, that is a kind of animal, that is a kind of life and no matter what happens to us "down the road" we will always be all of this.
There's quite a lot more than the three creation myths mentioned here. One for each religion more or less (you can probably categorize religions; several religions may feature similar myths. But I don't know very much about it). In norse mythology there's no clay involved: here humans were licked free from a stone by a cow:)
I guess clay is recurrent because it is a material that is easy to mold into different shapes; a hypothetical creator could more easily work with clay than stone, for ex.
sorry i must of missed it, just out of intrest in one of your videos you mention the nylon eating bacteria do you by any chance know of any formitable source on the study of this bacteria, if you happen to know of a source a link would be awesome I just keep on getting wikipedia articles on it.
=do you by any chance know of any formitable source on the study of this bacteria=
The best paper on this is by Susumu Ohno, who describes not only details of the nylonase gene, but also suggests how a framework mutation could spur evolution. Its called "Birth of a unique enzyme from an alternative reading frame of the preexisted, internally repetitious coding sequence", published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, April 1984. A pdf version is available online.
Another thing, cro magnon's were modern humans, the term is used for the earliest modern humans to enter Europe, I find it off-putting that so many people try to distinguish cro magnon from "modern" people when in reality cro magnon was simply a group of modern human that migrated to, and populated europe. So yeah they are the ancestors of some modern humans but they themselves were modern humans, sometimes the way they are put across makes them seem more primitive in some way when they weren't.
The information you received is wrong. Modern humans are direct descendants of Cro Magnon man. Neanderthals were our cousins, not our ancestors. There may have been interbreeding between Cro Magnon and Neanderthals, but they would have been sterile "mules" if children were even possible."
We don't know if a neanderthal human cross would be serile or not, what we do know is that based on genetic evidence neanderthal dna is effectively nonexistant in modern humans.
A good study on the human mind. Read something a fundie writes. See how they are brainwashed, how they repeat dogma that was forced into their heads at young age. See how they`re brains are locked into this feedback loop.
They even go so far to say that regardless of the evidence, they won`t listen.
Sam Harris called it a virus. So true!!
The virus seeks out to slow down the mental evolution of mankind, to make sure we don`t evolve beyond what we are now. Not going to work in the long run.
I am saddened to see that lies like evolution are being forced into the school curriculum while the word of the Lord is tossed out like this garbage should be
hey, its not all schools. catholic schools are taught about 'the Lord' creating the world and humanlind. who is to say this wasn't made for public schools? let other people embrace their own beliefs while you embrace yours. We respect that you believe one thing, we have the right to accept a different theory- no need to bash it.
"we have the right to accept a different theory- no need to bash it"
There is a need to bash it. I'm trying to save your souls here people! Along with those of our innocent children who will be force fed these ridiculous lies. The crusades happened for a reason! The godless must accept His word or burn. It's not a threat it's a warning
keep trying to force-feed 'non-believers your 'faith' and prepare to have it shoved back down your throat. We don't WANT to be 'saved'. so just accept that if we ARE wrong about 'the Lord' we'll just burn in hell anyways. Until that happens, stop trying to convert us cuz it aint happening.
PS: the crusades were totally barbaric. that a religion who believes in an 'all-forgiving' god would kill thousands of people is so hypocritical its disgusting.
"Along with those of our innocent children who will be force fed these ridiculous lies."
That's funny, I could say the same thing about your barbaric religion.
You're right the crusades did happen for a reason, it was because idiots like you decided it was a good idea to go kill people who didn't agree with their religion. BTW, many people on the other side of the conflict WERE CHRISTIAN (whatever the hell what means).
And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. (2nd Kings 2:24)
"The crusades happened for a reason! The godless must accept His word or burn"
The crusades happened because of people like yourself, who clungng to dogmatic beliefs and thought that everyone who didn't agree deserved death, and acted as such.
However you may want to do a bit more historical research, as the peoples slaughtered in the crusades weren't predominantly "godless". The majority would have been Muslim, many were other Christians, but I guess those weren't "real" Christians.
Your garbage wasn't tossed out, you can still bring a bible to school and pray in class for all I care, you just can't MAKE everyone else read it and pray with you.
Yeah its sad that kids are being taught reason and factual things, instead of your fantasy figures and bronze age ideas. Kinda makes you lose the hold you have on people. Sucks, I know it.
Thank you for all your work. Your series of videos are great resource for all interested in expanding their understanding of all that is. Not only that, they are very well produced. Keep it up!
=6:07 i thought apes did have oppossable thumbs? =
Yes, but please see my comment above. In apes this feature is very crude, whereas in humans the thumb can swing round to touch all four fingers. This articulation is uniquely human and can be seen in some hominid fossils.
What is the one that is mostly blue clay with an upper mouth fragment and an upper cranium fragment? Shouldn't it be removed as evidence since it is just a piece or two?
The clay is modeling clay, it's put in place to fill in the blanks. Generally, this is only done when there are other skulls or fragments of others skulls available in order to not have a false reconstruction.
Awesome! If you have any Canadian school interested I'd be happy to burn some DVDs for you then ^_^ (It's the least I could do for you after I was able to get my baby cousin interested in science thanks to you... even my mom liked your videos)
PS, thanks for the whole carbon dating video, linked it in my newest one, that way I didn't have to waste a letter debunking something as boring as C-14 creationist claims :P
Thank you for yet another very good video! This one is perfect to slam in the face of every idiot creationist piece of shit out there and let them choke on it!
I think that those of you people claiming that he does not know what he is talking about have not actualy watched his videos and if you claim that you did, just name some points that he got wronge.
flatcat19dx 1 month ago
SHAME ON YOU FOR TARGETING SCHOOLS - train up a child in the way he should go huh!
Evolution negates the need for God and that is why God is being removed from schools
MrInseine 3 months ago
@MrInseine what do you mean targeting schools? It's an educational video. Also evolution does not negate the need for a god. That is one of the most idiotic things I have heard.
Pirate44444 3 months ago
@MrInseine No No No No No. You Britisher sounds like a fundamentalist American. Everything that is British contradicts your assuertion that Evolution negates the need for God. But some people can simply use it as part of their arguement that, at best, god only created the Universe and left everything to the laws of Nature. An thus YOU were created. Which means YOU just contradicted your own evolved existence. I think you're funny.
sydneybb2 2 months ago
@MrInseine By the way. You are right about this video. That it was made for schhools. Therefore it TARGETS schools where we will find (though I'm not nor do I want to look) school CHILDREN. If you have ever been to a school you will have noticed that the education system actively and constantly endeavous to TRAIN UP the way he/she SHOULD GO. Otherwise we'd end up with millions of the Lords of the Flies. Are you one?
sydneybb2 2 months ago
If you watch these potholer54 videos, and still don't believe that evolution has been happening and still is, you're too indoctrinated or intellectually challenged to understand and accept the truth.
ndrthrdr1 3 months ago
And with so much so called "evidence", one would think the idea that Humans evolved from Apes would be PROVEN by now..lol..but of course it hasn't..nor has the Darwinian Evolution theory that all living beings evolved from a Fish..A fish?? Really?? Lmao...& in order to explain the 1st life, you must explain the origin of the information necessary to produce the 1st single living cell..and of course Scientists don't have the answer to this either..*sigh*
mellymel51029 3 months ago
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mellymel51029 3 months ago
Darving look litle like big gorilla heh
Engravingsful 3 months ago
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Hey, kiddos, want to see a fairy tale that adults really believe? Google whale evolution and go watch a 7 minutes video on the PBS web site that shows how an ancient 200 pound wolf searched for food along the beach, wander out into the surf, and morphed (evolved) into a 100 ton whale. There is nothing scientific about it, but nonetheless, this is the fairy tale that some adults really believe! Especially comical are the nostrils migrating to the top of the head to become a blow hole!
achilles197474 4 months ago
I can't help but wonder where is evolution going to take humans next?
Any ideas as to how humanity may change next? Larger heads, less hair, etc.
BigBobsh2o 5 months ago
@BigBobsh2o
Larger heads - do people with large heads have more children? I think not. There's a correlation between cranial size and intelligence, but do smart people have more children? I'm not aware of any research that's been done it (although I'm sure it's there!), but it would be fun to confirm/refute the claim put forth in the movie Idiocracy!
Geebsee 4 months ago
all other potholer54* videos played on smart phone. excellent!
LarryAT22 11 months ago
both of the "8 - human evolution made easy"* versions have a "Video cannot be played on mobile" attribute and are unplayable on my smart phone.
LarryAT22 11 months ago
Very well done. Enjoyed it very much.
neilfrommcf 1 year ago
the advancements of weaponry through recent ancestor species of humans
creepyoldman2 1 year ago
@alagodny28: Remember do onto others what you would have do onto yourself. Were you aiming to smear Potholer54's education. Children would laugh at anything, but maybe they were laughing at you not with you. :)
Archaeomoonwalker 1 year ago
Evolution is scientific fact, and is backed up by evidence, religion is not evidence based it relies on faith. Faith is a strong belief in something which is not backed up by proof.
roac7777 1 year ago
Now please, can you shut up about my beliefs which you haven't a clue about and just sit back and enjoy a good video? I doubt potholer cares for your incessant crap on his video. How about actually commenting the vid, as I have.
StorminMormin91 1 year ago
Thank you, potholer, from a theist, for what has been a very informative and enjoyable set of videos on evolutionary theory. It is much appreciated. While we certainly may not agree on theological terms, I can say that I agree on basically scientific terms. Some would see religion as always contradicting science. The beliefs I adhere to do not restrict me in any such way.
StorminMormin91 1 year ago
@StorminMormin91 You see, in the LDS faith, we search for truth come from where it may, and continue to look to the latest in science to explain the natural world around us, while leaving theology and our belief in divine revelation to explain our relationship to Deity and how we can serve the people around us. We do not think there needs to be some unbridgeable gap between science and religion. Rather, it is usually our own misperceptions of either that cause the misconceptions.
StorminMormin91 1 year ago
@StorminMormin91 ahahahaa doorman! It must be hard to live with yourself to know that science is true then to go back to your CULT and LIE to yourself about FALSENESS of the Mormon cult beliefs. Or is it easy to dismiss the FACTS that your Church of Joseph Smith was concocted by a Sexual Predator, Polygamist, & Charlatan who took advantage of people's religious beliefs. How can you deny the overwhelming Evidence against your Cult & embrace science? hahah Delusional!
mytv80 1 year ago
@mytv80 dude, seriously? How about you stop being a freak and stalking people, and keep to yourself. No one wants to listen to your idiocy.
The only one delusional is you, my friend, you lying, caniving, fool.
StorminMormin91 1 year ago
@StorminMormin91 AAHAHAHA DoorminMormon!!! Richard Dawkins said something similar about Mormonism ahahaha! SCIENCE & MORMONISM doesn't go together so quit lyin to yourself & to people! KOLOB, Nephites, Lamanites, Indians, Jesus in the USA, Adam God Doctrine, Book of Abraham, Silver Book, Secret names & hand shakes, Magic Thongs ahahahah!!!! Maybe science can prove to the Mormons that 'Negroes' are not cursed!!!
mytv80 1 year ago
@mytv80 magic thongs? Is that the best you have?
Shut the hell up, you twat.
StorminMormin91 1 year ago
@StorminMormin91 I don't have Magic Mormon thongs but mormons wear them! AHAHAH!!! Hey does the Magic Undies come in different colors?? hehehehehe ahahah!
mytv80 1 year ago
@StorminMormin91
But your religion does indeed restrict the acceptance of evolution as the means of creation, especially in light of authoritarian pronouncements which declare that organic evolution is not the source of human beings. Mormon doctrine is quite clear. Adam & Eve were the first human beings, there was no death of any human prior to them as there were no people on the earth prior to them. So I'm afraid you are indeed held hostage by your beliefs. Mormonism is quite absurd.
ExmormonFoundation 1 year ago
@ExmormonFoundation Wrong. There is no official view of the Church on evolution, and if you actually knew the history, there has been apostles and members on both sides. Mormon doctrine does not say that the biblical story of creation needs to be taken literally in every sense. Only that which has been clearly revealed and pronounced. Adam and Eve could exist and yet we could still have evolution. It says death, but does not clarify if it is physical or rather spiritual death, which is plausibl
StorminMormin91 1 year ago
Sorry stormy, but you're stuck with a literal interpretation of Adam & Eve. From the temple, to the Bible and D&C, Mormons are bound by a literal Adam & Eve in a literal Garden of Eden in Jackson County Missouri no doubt. Without a literal Adam and Eve, how could there be a fall? How could sin and death be introduced into the world if they were not literal beings partaking of literal fruit? No, you are stuck with the literal and absurdly unfounded position that Adam and Eve were real.
ExmormonFoundation 1 year ago
Add to that the teachings of Brigham Young that Adam & Eve were resurrected beings who came to the earth, and began the human race through copulation, not evolution. You are stuck. Despite FAIR & FARMS's best efforts to excuse away the contradictions between the evidence and Mormon theological claims, Mormons must believe in a literal Adam & Eve with no descent from prior hominids. You can excuse and confabulate all you want, but Mormon doctrine is very clear, despite your apologetics.
ExmormonFoundation 1 year ago
Next you'll be declaring that there was no global flood & that Kolob is not really the light source for the sun as stated in the Book of Abraham. The claims of Mormonism are literalistic in nature. The problem for you and your Mormon cohorts is that the evidence soundly debunks Mormon claims as well as those made throughout other fundamentalist Christian sects and cults the world over. Your literalism is both your downfall & key to escaping such nonsense. Here's to your continued enlightenment!
ExmormonFoundation 1 year ago
@ExmormonFoundation speculation, never claimed it to be doctrine, said it was not necessary for our salvation, and there was no agreement upon it by the governing Church bodies.
Again, I don't have to do or believe anything that you miscreants say I do. Now enough with your fallacies and ad nauseum assertions that aren't based in any verifiable fact. You Ex-Mo's are really disappointing.
StorminMormin91 1 year ago
Alright stormy, when in a corner, obfuscate, deny & pretend. It worked for many of us for many years too. The comments are germane to the video as they show the absolute religious nonsense which is continually shoved further and further to the side in the light of overwhelming evidence which shows those beliefs, doctrines, pronouncements etc. to be utterly absurd and unfounded when countered by evidence. Mormonism too founders on the rocks of evidence, especially that of evolution. Good luck!
ExmormonFoundation 1 year ago
One would think that the "one true galactic truth" would actually get something right instead of having to defer, recant or ignore its positions when exposed to the glaring light of scientific inquiry and verifiable evidence. From global floods to the origins of mankind, Mormonism & other like religious systems the world over have gotten nothing correct. As science advances, religions change their stance in order to survive. So much for "divine" revelation from the purveyors of religion.
ExmormonFoundation 1 year ago
@ExmormonFoundation I agree entirely. It seems to me that the Bible was more often taken literally before scientific advancements. Now it appears that Christians have to justify their beliefs, or find ways to skirt around certain criticisms relying on multiple interpretations of the same text. If it were a "galactic truth"- it should have had more relevance to how reality works.
creepyoldman2 1 year ago
" It seems to me that the Bible was more often taken literally before scientific advancements"
Ah, but the major problem with religion and religious people is that they more often tend to just thump on the Bible then actualy read it.
For Example I have no Idea how they get a "65000 year earth" when Adam to Noah is 14,000ish years and Noah to Jesus is another 4000ish and in the Psalms there is a peom aboout a civilization before Humans ruin cities in a Sxorched Earth (outside "Eden")
TheRealArchAngel 4 months ago
@ExmormonFoundation right, so your mere assertion somehow dicates what I can believe and Mormon doctrine. Again, MOFO, you fail.
StorminMormin91 1 year ago
@ExmormonFoundation so no, EXMOFO, I'm afraid you really don't know Mormonism as well as you put off. Apparently you should have actually stayed in the church and studied it out a little longer.
StorminMormin91 1 year ago
PotHoler54, you may want to update your "last known common ancestor between humans and neanderthals" timeline due to the article in the May 7 print edition of Science
skamakozi 1 year ago
The missing link isn't missing, it doesn't exsist. If your looking for answers just understand it was all created. Simple no hard work or argument, God spoke and all things were made that were made. I know it comes down to what you want to believe, but actually it is God believes about you...
eternaloutlook 1 year ago
@eternaloutlook The missing link doesn't exist because evolution doesn't work that way. Every one that has lived and procreated is a link to the ancestors. You are a link to the future if you procreate.
fly44d 1 year ago
@eternaloutlook
[If your looking for answers just understand it was all created.]
We knew that it happened. We wanted to know how, so we looked and found out.
[Simple no hard work or argument, God spoke and all things were made that were made.]
Many things were made far more recently than that, so this is a lie.
[I know it comes down to what you want to believe]
Want is irrelevant. Evidence decides.
[but actually it is God believes about you]
God believes whatever you want.
rkyeun 1 year ago
"we are, of course, all apes", said the ape in the video. (not insulting, just calling him what he calls himself).
Speak for yourself. Says me.
There is a God, who made the world for whatever reason and I've nothing to gain from accepting your ape theory. I can't prove God to you. No one can.
We're trying to help you be saved because we care. You're trying to help..........????
Now stop arguing! Everyone has the right to choose his/her own direction in life. You've made your choice.
artep2122 1 year ago
@artep2122 "Speak for yourself. Says me."
Ehem and who are "you"? Someone who does not understand the meaning of "Ape"? TBH, the video creator is not "calling himself" anything out of scientific classification, as it is what it is. The specie "Humans" (as you yourself also use) IS a "great ape" and a part of the biological order known as "primates" (which means prime, first rank).
This is not an "ape" theory, it's the theory of Evolution. Which is far more logical than women coming from ribs.
omgitslukky07 1 year ago
@omgitslukky07 "Ehem and who are "you"?"
A human being made in the image of God and proud of it. You or the man who calls himself an ape in this video do not define me; I'm not trying to define you. Read what I said again about choices, and come again.
artep2122 1 year ago
Can you give any evidence that there is a God as you claimed?
supercrevolution 1 year ago
I was going to give you an example that happened recently. An event where God helped me out of a tight spot. And before you tell me about coincidence, come with something original. Like I said, I cannot prove God to you. You ignore Him, so He's not going to force Himself upon you. I ask for help and I receive; not all the time, but that is not going to make God disappear to me. I was going to write out the example, but I like anonymity on the net. (cont'd)
artep2122 1 year ago
You may not believe me, I don't believe most stories I hear. I don't know why God sometimes answers me, and sometimes not, but I know He is there because these situations are impossible. I'm not brainwashed, I'm the only person left in my church my age, I didn't have to, of course, but things are ok this way. They won't be any better if I start following a bunch of apes who don't care whether I live or die, so thanks, but no thanks.
artep2122 1 year ago
In other words you don't want to back your claims. Got it.
supercrevolution 1 year ago
*sigh* I spent a long time this morning writing out the story and then deleting it, I would gladly email you with the story if you want. I don't make claims I can't backup.
artep2122 1 year ago
@supercrevolution I have an experience that happened this week. My friend had to buy some badly needed items (5). Now the price was cheaper earlier in the yr, but he didn't have the money then. Anyhow, he got the money Mon, but then the price had gone up much too high, and it was that way for some wks past. So he was too tired to make the purchase the Tues, but decided to do it Wed. I prayed a simple prayer, Lord I know the prices go up but let it drop to the orig price just for today (contd
artep2122 1 year ago
@supercrevolution (contd) The next day he called and said he made the purchase. Then he said that the price dropped just for him and went back up the next day! (praise the Lord!) And I said, I know!, I prayed just for that! This is just one of the many cases where God has come through in my and others' time of need. I can't make you see God. I have welcomed him in my life and he proves himself to me. Looking forward to your answer!
artep2122 1 year ago
@artep2122 and some people got stuck in the middle ages... if u believe in the bible and jesus u also have to believe the earth is 5000 years old.... yeah of course...... why dont u believe in allah? oder in multple gods? is there any logical reason for this?
ecreif 1 year ago
@ecreif Yes I believe that the earth is a few thousand years old, and I don't see how that is far fetched either. What I see as far fetched is your theory that the earth is millions of years old. Who is allah and why should I "believe" in him? Why do I need to "believe" in multiple gods, when I one I accept and follow supplies my needs? What other logical reasons are you looking for?
artep2122 1 year ago
@artep2122 lol u dont know allah? thats the god muslims believe in.. dont u ask urself how so many religions occured that arent widely spread but very regional? if ur god would be the "right" god wouldnt he gave all human the same chance to find out whos the right god? but he didnt... so do u see how illogical religion is? there are of course many more reasons
ecreif 1 year ago
@ecreif I know what allah is. I meant that it means nothing to me. And no I don't ask myself those questions because humans deny things even when they are right in front of them, they are wrong and strong. It's like how the Bible says the seventh day is the sabbath but people will argue that the first day is; it's like how a certain celebrity has plastic surgery all over, but she denies it and so do her fans, even though the proof is in front of them. Humans are like that. (contd)
artep2122 1 year ago
@artep2122 i would say that only weak, blind and stupid people are like that. but i dont understand how that is a reason for u not to ask urself those questions?... other reasons: evolution, "who made god", many different religions, totally humanrelated religions what about aliens?.. religion makes people blind and lazy they live their lives waiting for the afterlife, wtf...
ecreif 1 year ago
@ecreif I ask myself who made God, I ask myself why Jesus made the world knowing how it would turn out. I already explained why there will always be different religions, I accept God made people in other worlds, I don't live waiting for the afterlife, and many others don't. I live for now, focusing on things to make me happy. I don't see how humans evolved or any other creatures for that matter. Finally, humans can't know everything.
artep2122 1 year ago
@artep2122 of course we cant know everything but we can try to get the best knowledge possible for the moment... the question "who made god" leads u to the answer that there is no god because this question chain "who made who" will go on forever and is therefore illogical. there is only one possible and logical answer: no one created anything, everything was already there.. think about. only thinking will get you closer to the truth
ecreif 1 year ago
@ecreif I have to admit, your comment made me smile and laugh. The question of "who made what" leads me to who made the big bang or whatever and the everything that was already there. Even God himself said he was and is. He always was there, so how is what you said different? So you say that I don't think because I don't know the "truth"? You know, I've once heard I think too much.....
artep2122 1 year ago
one never thinks to much. but okay i think i have to explain u even more. first think about what consequences it has if something was there for ever: u have to
know if something changes it means there is
time. so god would also be bound to time automatically. so if god "decided" to create the universe he had to wait for this decision for ever which means he could never have decided it. i can imagine only one way this could still work and that is to exactly repeat the world in a finite timeloop
ecreif 1 year ago
@ecreif but a finite time loop doesnt make sense for a god...
ecreif 1 year ago
@ecreif Humans deny things to make themselves feel good when they are in the wrong, nothing new. All religion is not illogical. What are your other reasons?
artep2122 1 year ago
@ecreif Of course, Allah and Yahweh are the same God. It's all about which prophet/messiah you believe in which identify your religion for the Abrahamic faiths, and that is largely determined by region of birth or bloodline. That, obviously, includes Christians, Jews and Muslims and all the denominations therein.
jacksawild 1 year ago
@jacksawild ok that could be possible but what about buddhism and hinduism.. they werent in touch with the europeans and east asians that much therfore they developed their own religion.. which proves my statement. and what about indigeneos people? they have their own religions. so they come in hell because they cant ever read the bible? religion is such a bullshit
ecreif 1 year ago
You have to tell me where you got the background music from, Potholer </3
BlahKing101 2 years ago
It's an interesting version of Fuga y Misterio, by Astor Piazzolla (who was a genius).
lardhat 2 years ago
Thanks, man. ^^
BlahKing101 2 years ago
Any ideas where I can find this particular version? >.>
AlphaHydrae 2 years ago
Sadly, no.
BlahKing101 2 years ago
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AlphaHydrae 2 years ago
let's forget all this name-calling & personal opinions; would you evolutionists pls. cite, if any (you shouldn't have trouble quoting many) actual current scientific? projects, doctors/scientists, journals/papers (Nature magz, Scientific American, etc.) , published works, etc (cosmologists, molecular biologists, palaeontologists, physicists, astronomers, bio-chemists, etc. that actually back each other up) to once-and-for-all silence the deafeaning flaws & weakness in evolutionary theory?!??!
m3p3p1t0 2 years ago
Go to TalkOrigins.
TBTabby 2 years ago
google them, there are only tens of thousands....you know, actually getting work done in laboratories and universities and using what they apply to further mankind
rastarigate 2 years ago
"to once-and-for-all silence the deafeaning flaws & weakness in evolutionary theory"
I am very interested in what journals YOU are reading that make you so emotional and obviously more informed than the vast majority of scientists. Scientific American, by the way, is not a scientific journal.
Mangina9000 2 years ago
@m3p3p1t0 There are no flaws & weakness in evolutionary theory. Just a few of many, start reading
Encyclopedia of Evolution (Science Encyclopedia) by Stanley A. Rice
Evolution: From Molecules to Ecosystems (Oxford Biology) by Andres Moya The Origin of Species (Modern Library) by L. Harrison Matthews
Strickberger's Evolution by Brian Keith Hall
Evolution, Evolution (Oxford Readers) by Mark Ridley
Speciation by Jerry A. Coyne
Sperm Competition and Sexual Selection by Tim R. Birkhead
baeron84 2 years ago
2:17
Is that Vin Diesel?!
pinkubento 2 years ago
LMAO! xD
ShadowWulf14 2 years ago
We didnt evolve from chips and chimps are dying out
timmythevoe 2 years ago
wait a sec....if we evolved form chimps then why the hell are there still chimps on the earth? Shouldn't they have died off like any other species that evolves? and How many of these skulls have they found of the common type of "ancestor"?
JD12111211 2 years ago
we didn't evolve from chimps. do you have any idea what evolution is?
gfkb87 2 years ago
The video itself says it, the monkey is our original ancestor?
JD12111211 2 years ago
we didn't evolve from chimps. we evolved from an ape that chimps also evolved from. we also share a common ancestor with all apes, all monkeys, all life, however we didn't evolve from any modern species other than ourselves.
gfkb87 2 years ago
oh, alright i understand. What was the original species called? that everyone evolved from including apes n chimps?
JD12111211 2 years ago
you really don't have a clue how evolution works at all do you? go to talk origins, they have good information that could help you out.
gfkb87 2 years ago
no not really, to be honest with you i get all of my theories of how the earth was created and man was born "made" or ""evolved" from the bible. ive been told that evolution was a lie and doesn't have any solid support to their claims so im now searching out answers and looking at all the different facts and proofs that proves either theory is correct/has any truth. So right now im just searching out looking for supportive claims/facts
JD12111211 2 years ago
ok, some transitional fossils after the split from the lineage that led to chimps include Homo erectus, Homo habilus, Australopithecus africanus, Australopithecus afarensis. those are all just on the lineage that led to humans. but while the fossil record has countless transitional fossils it still has gaps because fossilization is a rare event and finding those fossils is even rarer. most of the evidence supporting evolution is through genetics. have you heard of ERV's?
gfkb87 2 years ago
no what are ERV's? Im sorry i just briefly studied evolution in middle school n very little in biology/science in high school. I know very little about it. thank you for explaining it a little more in depth for me. Btw are you a teacher or just major in college?
JD12111211 2 years ago
my dads a biologist, my mom is a teacher, I'm in college.
ERV's are endogenous retroviruses. basically they happen when a virus infects a germ cell of a host and becomes inactive. this signiture is then passed on to the decendants of the host. insertion sites are random. so when humans and chimps share identical signatures and insertion sites the conclusion is that the common ancestor got the ERV and all of its descendants share the signature.
gfkb87 2 years ago
oh ok, thank you very much. I can see you've dedicated many hours of study to this subject. thank you for sharing the knowledge and explaining it a little more for me.
JD12111211 2 years ago
you can go farther than just humans and chimps though, we also share many with gorillas, a few fewer with orangutans, and a few fewer still with gibbons, etc.the ones shared by all of us are very ancient insertions, the few unique to humans are very recent additions to our genome.
gfkb87 2 years ago
@JD12111211 In my opinion you shouldn't take the bible as factual history no matter what you believe. Consider the fact that it was written by and for people that lived more than 2000 years ago. I doubt that their language and knowledge allowed for a real understanding of the universe. You can't really believe that God just snapped His fingers and everything came to be. I mean there must be more to it and we don't even understand how it all works let alone how it came to be.
sorin7486 2 years ago
@JD12111211 to continue I'd like to congratulate you for trying to discover things on your own. I personally believe science and religion are not two opposite things. If you want to understand more about that I'd like to recommend a couple of books:
"Finding Darwin's God[...]" by Kenneth R. Miller a biologist and "Contact" by Carl Sagan. The second one is a work of fiction, so you should consider it as that and nothing more, but I found reading it to be an interesting experience.
sorin7486 2 years ago
« I personally believe science and religion are not two opposite things »
I believe they are, in at least one important aspect: science is based on observation, while religion expects you to believe a thing despite (the lack of) any observation. I believe that the notion of the non-overlapping magisteria is false: religion *does* make statements about actuality, and these *are* therefore subject to scientific investigation.
XGralgrathor 1 year ago
I'm sorry to say but you sound just as a creationist in your comment. If you refer to the statement "God created the heavens and the earth" then go ahead and prove it wrong. According to Kant you can't, no more so than to prove it right. And that's exactly my point: religion is not a scientific theory that you can name true or false. Nor is it meant to be treated that way. Making the bible into literally truth is the fallacy of creationists and you can't expose their ignorance by falling into it
sorin7486 1 year ago
« then go ahead and prove it wrong »
And here we come to another disparity between religion and science: religion deals in revelation, which is supposed to be taken at face value, as an undisputable fact. Science, on the other hand, deals in models, that can be more or less accurate, but always just models of reality. Another problem is that when theists say "prove me wrong", they implicitly define their god as to preclude any means of ever detecting it.
XGralgrathor 1 year ago
« then go ahead and prove it wrong »
But, in the end, the "prove me wrong" type of argument is a direct attack on the validity of the scientific method. After all, if we discard scientific theories and hypotheses as merely conjecture, we make *every* possible 'explanation' as likely as the next.
XGralgrathor 1 year ago
« then go ahead and prove it wrong »
Concluding, there is not some boundary beyond which science may not or cannot operate: if it exists, and affects observable reality, then it is subject to scientific investigation. If it does not exist, or it does not affect observable reality (same thing, really), then it is irrelevant.
XGralgrathor 1 year ago
« religion is not a scientific theory that you can name true or false »
But religions make statements about reality that are either true or false. And those claims usually go way beyond 'there exists something forever beyond our capability to detect (which would make it irrelevant)'. Aside from the miracles which are supposed to have happened, the creation of a universe would be a real event, and therefore testable, even if only theoretically so.
XGralgrathor 1 year ago
I never said "prove me wrong".. I said "prove it wrong". My personal beliefs are rather far from anything you could call mainstream religion and I'm rather happy with keeping them to myself.
As for the rest I already made my point. You seem either unable or unwilling to grasp things outside the realm of science so there's no way for us to discuss what is clearly a philosophical matter.
sorin7486 1 year ago
« grasp things outside the realm of science »
The point I am making is this: is the statement that a god exists and created the universe really outside the realm of science? I say not. It is a statement about something real, something that exists, something that has an impact on observable reality, and therefore testable even if only in principle.
XGralgrathor 1 year ago
The statement that God exists is not only outside the realm of science but outside the realm of philosophy. I think Immanuel Kant made this point quite clear so if you're not convinced by his work there's really nothing I could add.
The statement that God created the universe is quite abstract. If you mean in the biblical sense then I already explained one must be rather ignorant to believe it ad literam. If you mean in a broad sense then there's no axiom to prove we should find evidence he did
sorin7486 1 year ago
« statement that God exists is not only outside the realm of science »
And again, if a god exists, and affects observable reality, then the claim that it does is testable in principle, and subject to scientific methodology. If a god exists but does not affect observable reality, then the point is moot, and the god in question irrelevant to us.
XGralgrathor 1 year ago
You are a rather narrow minded individual. You keep saying if he "affects observable reality".. well what about things we can't observe ? The easiest example that comes to mind is the moment before the big bang. We might never be able to observe that.
Or what about things that we could "observe" but we don't? I mean it's not like we can keep track of every atom on the planet.. let alone in the universe. God is supposed to be a sentient being not a natural phenomenon. How can you observe that ?
sorin7486 1 year ago
« what about things we can't observe ? »
Irrelevant. What matters is not whether we can at this time observe something, but rather whether or not it is observable in principle.
XGralgrathor 1 year ago
« the moment before the big bang »
If such a time exists, and it affects observable reality, then it is testable through observation. Keep in mind that we infer the nature of such events through observations, we do not observe the events themselves.
XGralgrathor 1 year ago
« How can you observe that ? »
And again, if your claim is that a god exists but hides itself to such an extent that all the observations it supposedly contributed to can also and more elegantly be explained through naturalistic models, then how is the claim relevant or useful in any way? One might as well claim that the universe was created 10 seconds ago.
XGralgrathor 1 year ago
« The statement that God created the universe is quite abstract »
The universe is a tangible reality. And if something exists beyond the universe that affects the universe, then that too is real and testable. Moreover, most religions hold that their gods have performed works within the universe.
XGralgrathor 1 year ago
But all those arguments are besides the point. And I feel like no amount of arguing could bring this any closer. You stick to your narrow reasoning like christians to their dogma. So I'm sorry to say but I don't really see any reason to continue this discussion.
sorin7486 1 year ago
But the point I was making is that religion isn't a science and as such it doesn't or shouldn't be applied to anything that's already covered by scientific knowledge. In my opinion religion should be something focused on the world within.
Even the bible has a rather small part of it dedicated to the creation of the universe compared to the rest of it which is mostly dedicated to social and (other) philosophical issues. And you can't judge the whole of it on the literally accuracy of part of it.
sorin7486 1 year ago
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« And you can't judge the whole of it on the literally accuracy of part of it »
I agree with that. Then again, the bible as a whole contains many contradictions, and whatever values one derives from it can only be derived after some fairly loose interpretation and lifting out of context. One might as well do away with the bible and consider the propositions one wishes to hold on to on an individual basis.
XGralgrathor 1 year ago
Not that I hold the bible in such a high regard.. on the contrary. But I feel that if I can make a point for Christianity then it applies even more so to other, more illuminated religions.
sorin7486 1 year ago
What might confuse you is the differences in nomenclature used in cladistics and normal spoken English.
In cladistics species are labeled according to the subsets they've differentiated into as time went by.
In that sense we are humans, who are a kind of ape, that is a kind of monkey, that is a kind of mammal, that is a kind of fish, that is a kind of vertebrate, that is a kind of animal, that is a kind of life and no matter what happens to us "down the road" we will always be all of this.
bnightm 2 years ago
What is the music here?
It sounds like libertango, but I've never heard this version.
jbrowsingj 2 years ago
The music fits almost perfectly. I only wish there were some names to go with the years and skulls.
AlphaCrucis 2 years ago
Hey, question: Why is it clay, many times?
daddyleon 2 years ago
There's quite a lot more than the three creation myths mentioned here. One for each religion more or less (you can probably categorize religions; several religions may feature similar myths. But I don't know very much about it). In norse mythology there's no clay involved: here humans were licked free from a stone by a cow:)
I guess clay is recurrent because it is a material that is easy to mold into different shapes; a hypothetical creator could more easily work with clay than stone, for ex.
RasmusKjaerg 2 years ago
See his next video for more info on the migration patterns.
cyxgun 2 years ago
We know the migration patterns, and where we collected the fossils. Knowing when the migrations happened thus tells us where where they were.
cyxgun 2 years ago
Excellent Vidoe!
Looking forward to browsing through the rest!
MultiHal 2 years ago
KomatiiteBIF,
Try and get your hands on "The Incredible Human Journey [DVD]" (when it comes out) AND "Journey of Man [DVD]"
Both can be found at amazon.
BEAST636 2 years ago
Great video! Thanks so much!!!
frerki 2 years ago
aren't we still apes? what does it mean a seperation between apes adn humans?
awwurdead 2 years ago
=what does it mean a seperation between apes adn humans? =
We are indeed apes. I explained my use of the terminology =ape= and =human= in the video. It was for the purpose of clarity.
potholer54 2 years ago
sorry i must of missed it, just out of intrest in one of your videos you mention the nylon eating bacteria do you by any chance know of any formitable source on the study of this bacteria, if you happen to know of a source a link would be awesome I just keep on getting wikipedia articles on it.
awwurdead 2 years ago
=do you by any chance know of any formitable source on the study of this bacteria=
The best paper on this is by Susumu Ohno, who describes not only details of the nylonase gene, but also suggests how a framework mutation could spur evolution. Its called "Birth of a unique enzyme from an alternative reading frame of the preexisted, internally repetitious coding sequence", published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, April 1984. A pdf version is available online.
potholer54 2 years ago
Another thing, cro magnon's were modern humans, the term is used for the earliest modern humans to enter Europe, I find it off-putting that so many people try to distinguish cro magnon from "modern" people when in reality cro magnon was simply a group of modern human that migrated to, and populated europe. So yeah they are the ancestors of some modern humans but they themselves were modern humans, sometimes the way they are put across makes them seem more primitive in some way when they weren't.
fsgfk 2 years ago
"rrward
The information you received is wrong. Modern humans are direct descendants of Cro Magnon man. Neanderthals were our cousins, not our ancestors. There may have been interbreeding between Cro Magnon and Neanderthals, but they would have been sterile "mules" if children were even possible."
We don't know if a neanderthal human cross would be serile or not, what we do know is that based on genetic evidence neanderthal dna is effectively nonexistant in modern humans.
fsgfk 2 years ago
A good study on the human mind. Read something a fundie writes. See how they are brainwashed, how they repeat dogma that was forced into their heads at young age. See how they`re brains are locked into this feedback loop.
They even go so far to say that regardless of the evidence, they won`t listen.
Sam Harris called it a virus. So true!!
The virus seeks out to slow down the mental evolution of mankind, to make sure we don`t evolve beyond what we are now. Not going to work in the long run.
falotnek 2 years ago
I'd say it's more like cancer than virus.
crzer07 2 years ago
I am saddened to see that lies like evolution are being forced into the school curriculum while the word of the Lord is tossed out like this garbage should be
devon520 2 years ago
hey, its not all schools. catholic schools are taught about 'the Lord' creating the world and humanlind. who is to say this wasn't made for public schools? let other people embrace their own beliefs while you embrace yours. We respect that you believe one thing, we have the right to accept a different theory- no need to bash it.
bored2hyperness 2 years ago
"we have the right to accept a different theory- no need to bash it"
There is a need to bash it. I'm trying to save your souls here people! Along with those of our innocent children who will be force fed these ridiculous lies. The crusades happened for a reason! The godless must accept His word or burn. It's not a threat it's a warning
devon520 2 years ago
fine, well here's a warning for you:
keep trying to force-feed 'non-believers your 'faith' and prepare to have it shoved back down your throat. We don't WANT to be 'saved'. so just accept that if we ARE wrong about 'the Lord' we'll just burn in hell anyways. Until that happens, stop trying to convert us cuz it aint happening.
PS: the crusades were totally barbaric. that a religion who believes in an 'all-forgiving' god would kill thousands of people is so hypocritical its disgusting.
bored2hyperness 2 years ago
"Along with those of our innocent children who will be force fed these ridiculous lies."
That's funny, I could say the same thing about your barbaric religion.
You're right the crusades did happen for a reason, it was because idiots like you decided it was a good idea to go kill people who didn't agree with their religion. BTW, many people on the other side of the conflict WERE CHRISTIAN (whatever the hell what means).
sypher113 2 years ago
You should try actually reading that for a change if you want to hear something ridiculous, actually a bunch of things.
Try 2nd Kings 2:23-24, that's a good one.
And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. (2nd Kings 2:24)
sypher113 2 years ago
"The crusades happened for a reason! The godless must accept His word or burn"
The crusades happened because of people like yourself, who clungng to dogmatic beliefs and thought that everyone who didn't agree deserved death, and acted as such.
However you may want to do a bit more historical research, as the peoples slaughtered in the crusades weren't predominantly "godless". The majority would have been Muslim, many were other Christians, but I guess those weren't "real" Christians.
sypher113 2 years ago
Your garbage wasn't tossed out, you can still bring a bible to school and pray in class for all I care, you just can't MAKE everyone else read it and pray with you.
sypher113 2 years ago
Yeah its sad that kids are being taught reason and factual things, instead of your fantasy figures and bronze age ideas. Kinda makes you lose the hold you have on people. Sucks, I know it.
But thats natural selection at work.
Get over it!
falotnek 2 years ago
description spelling correction: dexterity, not desxterity
KeepFreeSpeechFree 2 years ago
Another fine video. Please keep on going.
metalbucket2 2 years ago
Weren't the 'for school' series supposed to have religious references removed?
stuartp2006 2 years ago
only specific anti-religious references to make it easier for schools to show them without complaints
natman48 2 years ago
awesome vid.....
chilichilli 2 years ago
Great video! Thanks!
Filomatia 2 years ago
I am more evovled than you!
SpicyHam 2 years ago
Thanks again for another wonderful video, very well done.
petehjr1 2 years ago
This Rules thank you so much for doing this
kingvmr 2 years ago
Fantastic addition to the 'Made Easy' series!
TheWindClaw 2 years ago
These are all so professionally made. Thanks
Mattprole 2 years ago
That video was amazing. Can you explain to me how you got all of that on camera? Hahah, this is definitely a video to remember!
Chick6517 2 years ago
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saintlysecretions 2 years ago
Yeah. Thank you sooo much for these videos. Easy to understand, good combination of pictures and spoken explanations.
And i like how you bash religion but in a way no one really can argue against ^^
RoninXiC 2 years ago
potholer54,
Thank you for all your work. Your series of videos are great resource for all interested in expanding their understanding of all that is. Not only that, they are very well produced. Keep it up!
Sincerely,
Holeychao
holeychao 2 years ago
Is anyone else having problems downloading this video?
mpekarek1 2 years ago
=6:07 i thought apes did have oppossable thumbs? =
Yes, but please see my comment above. In apes this feature is very crude, whereas in humans the thumb can swing round to touch all four fingers. This articulation is uniquely human and can be seen in some hominid fossils.
potholer54 2 years ago
Terrific work, as usual. You have a real gift for putting ideas across concisely & effectively.
I declare that Potholer is the Carl Sagan of Youtube!!!
markjeppo 2 years ago 2
Second that.
krammit25 2 years ago
can't wait for the next vid, thanx again.
jvilla21 2 years ago
Another awesome video! Kudos!
Sardonac 2 years ago
What is the one that is mostly blue clay with an upper mouth fragment and an upper cranium fragment? Shouldn't it be removed as evidence since it is just a piece or two?
NotWhollySane 2 years ago
The clay is modeling clay, it's put in place to fill in the blanks. Generally, this is only done when there are other skulls or fragments of others skulls available in order to not have a false reconstruction.
Sardonac 2 years ago
This is encouraging. This excellent video has been up for about one day and has had almost 2700 views and a (well deserved) five star rating.
Green4321 2 years ago
Great work again, sir.
MojoPin07 2 years ago
Potholer, curious, any schools contacted you yet?
Killua2001 2 years ago
=any schools contacted you yet? =
Yes, dozens! I'm furiously burning DVDs on my creaking computer to send out to all of them.
potholer54 2 years ago
Awesome! If you have any Canadian school interested I'd be happy to burn some DVDs for you then ^_^ (It's the least I could do for you after I was able to get my baby cousin interested in science thanks to you... even my mom liked your videos)
PS, thanks for the whole carbon dating video, linked it in my newest one, that way I didn't have to waste a letter debunking something as boring as C-14 creationist claims :P
Killua2001 2 years ago
I'm in Texas and would be happy to burn DVD's for any schools in these parts.
AlanCFA 2 years ago
Thank you.
studiomarcel 2 years ago
Thank you for yet another very good video! This one is perfect to slam in the face of every idiot creationist piece of shit out there and let them choke on it!
Europeunity 2 years ago
Great,look forward to next part :)
musicgeniusno1 2 years ago
normally I don't re-watch videos but I thought I should watch this one again. Absolutely brilliant the second time around as well. Good job.
penbed400 3 years ago
Brain size seems imply intelligence in apes.
how come this doesn't seem to apply to whales who have substantially larger brains than humans/apes?
vinak963 3 years ago