There is no issue of morality. There is no "homosexual agenda" other than just wanting to live in peace and be treated the same as anyone else is. People have as much control over their sexuality as they have over their eye color or skin color, yet the Bible has been used by hate-mongers to use those factors as an excuse, too; or did we all forget the religious nuts that used the Gospel as an excuse for slavery.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Remember that?
All of those using the Bible as a defense of homophobic behavior are being stupid. Do none of you realize that something that was written for the unscientific peoples of the ancient world and later modified, immediately pre-medeival Christian Europe, cannot apply to today? Not only has society grown up intellectually, but it has expanded it's knowledge of medicine, psychology and begun honing the use of reason.
The science says that the Bible's take on homosexuality is wrong.
@yeshualovesme1 Your bible says to kill the woman who can't prove her virginity on her wedding night. The only thing that stops you fools making this law is civilised society keeps the rabid believer in check. In western society anyway.
@1:17 -- Folks listen real close because you'll hear it. He just said, if you believe what God's Word teaches, you're an idiot. So homosexuality is not an issue to this man, because he hates that book. (2 Peter 3:5)
@creationliberty Homosexuality is not an issue to me because it's not and issue. I don't hate "that book". I just have a problem with it's believers who think they have found a way to hate with impunity. A little bit of introspection would show this to you.
@creationliberty Explain this verse to me Chris "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13). Does it say what it says or have you got some spin to put on it.
@creationliberty In July 1999, Matthew Williams and his brother, Tyler, murdered a gay couple, Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder. Matthew explained his actions in this way: "I had to obey God's law rather than man's law," he said. "I didn't want to do this. I felt I was supposed to. I have followed a higher law... I just plan to defend myself from the Scriptures."
Do you see what I mean about dangerous and offensive beliefs?
@ptango101 We're commanded not to murder in the Bible. He can "plan" to defend himself, but he won't be able to. Hitler tried to say he was commissioned by God to do what he did, but that's not justified in Scripture either. (he used evolution philosophy in his practice of killing those not weaker than his own "race")
You think, "Because someone says it, therefore it's true." I advise to stop believing everything someone tells you, and go look for the answers yourself.
@creationliberty "We're commanded not to murder in the Bible" Then Why is there so much of it in the bible? Mathew Williams honestly believed he was doing what god wanted him to do.
Hitler did the things he did because he was a megalomaniac and an antisemite. You keep missing the mark with your answers because they have to fit into your religious box. If it conflicts with what you think the bible says then to you it is wrong. It's not me who has to look for answers.
@creationliberty Since you are not going to tell me what you think of the verse that says you have to murder homosexuals what about this one?
Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you. Duet 22:21
@ptango101 I have answers to your questions on my website I can show you, but you have never indicated to me that you're looking for answers. Just look at your video. I backed up my claims with Scripture, and analysis of experiments done. You just gave your opinion. It demonstrates clearly that you don't want answers, you just want to scoff at the Bible. So go ahead, have your fun. There is a judgement day coming soon, whether you like it or not. I'm just trying to help prepare people for it.
@creationliberty "I have answers to your questions on my website I can show you" Then cite it and stop dodging the question. Do you think a girl who can't prove her virginity on her wedding night should be murdered by a mob with stones.
"I backed up my claims with Scripture" Good for you. You just read the parts of the bible that make you fell all warm and fuzzy inside and ignore the horrific ones. What experiments have been done that prove all gays choose that lifestyle?
@creationliberty You accuse me of giving my opinion when you blatantly just keep giving me yours. why is that? You are right I don't want answers. I want you to answer the question and gain some incite into your preaching of hate. I am not scoffing at the bible. I have my opinions about it but it's the believers I have a problem with. Your beliefs can be used as such a catalyst for misery but you just want to blame evolution and atheism for all the worlds woes.
@creationliberty "There is a judgement day coming soon, whether you like it or not. I'm just trying to help prepare people for it." See how you threaten but make sure you have an escape clause worked in. I get tired of hearing that your god will let me be tortured forever but you are just the messenger. Where I came from you are responsible for the things you say. Saying you are just the messenger shifts responsibility and makes you look like a coward.Take responsibility!!!
@raptorcat61 Thanks for that. As I said it's getting annoying because it's been used as pole rising issue of bigotry by the christian mob. Enough is enough.
There is no issue of morality. There is no "homosexual agenda" other than just wanting to live in peace and be treated the same as anyone else is. People have as much control over their sexuality as they have over their eye color or skin color, yet the Bible has been used by hate-mongers to use those factors as an excuse, too; or did we all forget the religious nuts that used the Gospel as an excuse for slavery.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Remember that?
raptorcat61 2 months ago
All of those using the Bible as a defense of homophobic behavior are being stupid. Do none of you realize that something that was written for the unscientific peoples of the ancient world and later modified, immediately pre-medeival Christian Europe, cannot apply to today? Not only has society grown up intellectually, but it has expanded it's knowledge of medicine, psychology and begun honing the use of reason.
The science says that the Bible's take on homosexuality is wrong.
raptorcat61 2 months ago
It's dangerous to believe the bible? LOL, ok der guy!
yeshualovesme1 2 months ago
@yeshualovesme1 Your bible says to kill the woman who can't prove her virginity on her wedding night. The only thing that stops you fools making this law is civilised society keeps the rabid believer in check. In western society anyway.
ptango101 2 months ago
@1:17 -- Folks listen real close because you'll hear it. He just said, if you believe what God's Word teaches, you're an idiot. So homosexuality is not an issue to this man, because he hates that book. (2 Peter 3:5)
creationliberty 2 months ago
@creationliberty Homosexuality is not an issue to me because it's not and issue. I don't hate "that book". I just have a problem with it's believers who think they have found a way to hate with impunity. A little bit of introspection would show this to you.
ptango101 2 months ago
@creationliberty Explain this verse to me Chris "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13). Does it say what it says or have you got some spin to put on it.
ptango101 2 months ago
@creationliberty In July 1999, Matthew Williams and his brother, Tyler, murdered a gay couple, Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder. Matthew explained his actions in this way: "I had to obey God's law rather than man's law," he said. "I didn't want to do this. I felt I was supposed to. I have followed a higher law... I just plan to defend myself from the Scriptures."
Do you see what I mean about dangerous and offensive beliefs?
ptango101 2 months ago
@ptango101 We're commanded not to murder in the Bible. He can "plan" to defend himself, but he won't be able to. Hitler tried to say he was commissioned by God to do what he did, but that's not justified in Scripture either. (he used evolution philosophy in his practice of killing those not weaker than his own "race")
You think, "Because someone says it, therefore it's true." I advise to stop believing everything someone tells you, and go look for the answers yourself.
Again... 2 Peter 3:5.
creationliberty 2 months ago
@creationliberty "We're commanded not to murder in the Bible" Then Why is there so much of it in the bible? Mathew Williams honestly believed he was doing what god wanted him to do.
Hitler did the things he did because he was a megalomaniac and an antisemite. You keep missing the mark with your answers because they have to fit into your religious box. If it conflicts with what you think the bible says then to you it is wrong. It's not me who has to look for answers.
ptango101 2 months ago
@creationliberty Since you are not going to tell me what you think of the verse that says you have to murder homosexuals what about this one?
Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you. Duet 22:21
ptango101 2 months ago
@ptango101 I have answers to your questions on my website I can show you, but you have never indicated to me that you're looking for answers. Just look at your video. I backed up my claims with Scripture, and analysis of experiments done. You just gave your opinion. It demonstrates clearly that you don't want answers, you just want to scoff at the Bible. So go ahead, have your fun. There is a judgement day coming soon, whether you like it or not. I'm just trying to help prepare people for it.
creationliberty 2 months ago
@creationliberty "I have answers to your questions on my website I can show you" Then cite it and stop dodging the question. Do you think a girl who can't prove her virginity on her wedding night should be murdered by a mob with stones.
"I backed up my claims with Scripture" Good for you. You just read the parts of the bible that make you fell all warm and fuzzy inside and ignore the horrific ones. What experiments have been done that prove all gays choose that lifestyle?
ptango101 2 months ago
@creationliberty You accuse me of giving my opinion when you blatantly just keep giving me yours. why is that? You are right I don't want answers. I want you to answer the question and gain some incite into your preaching of hate. I am not scoffing at the bible. I have my opinions about it but it's the believers I have a problem with. Your beliefs can be used as such a catalyst for misery but you just want to blame evolution and atheism for all the worlds woes.
ptango101 2 months ago
@creationliberty "There is a judgement day coming soon, whether you like it or not. I'm just trying to help prepare people for it." See how you threaten but make sure you have an escape clause worked in. I get tired of hearing that your god will let me be tortured forever but you are just the messenger. Where I came from you are responsible for the things you say. Saying you are just the messenger shifts responsibility and makes you look like a coward.Take responsibility!!!
ptango101 2 months ago
Well said. The religious wrong loves to disregard evidence as long as they can protect the dogma of medieval ignorance.
Two opposeable thumbs way up.
raptorcat61 2 months ago
@raptorcat61 Thanks for that. As I said it's getting annoying because it's been used as pole rising issue of bigotry by the christian mob. Enough is enough.
ptango101 2 months ago