@Jeremyevo90 this is the first official run for the car around Nordschleife, normally cars can cut down atleast 5 seconds with their subsequent runs, the GTR didnt get 724 on its first run.
@Jeremyevo90 Has this guy not just demonstrated that he went 10 seconds quicker than he did with the GTR? If one man has driven the above list of cars around in those speeds, they're probably much more relevant than the 'official' ring list
Cant wait for Lamborghini Aventador lap time.... I think it will crack 7 minutes. Its insanely fast on all other tracks, and its gonna come into its own on Nurburgring with that epic 4WD, 700hp and racecar-like aerodynamics.
Turbocharged supercars are a waste of money no matter how fast they are! Don't pay a fortune for a laggy car! If you just want to be fast ...Get a nissan gtr! ...or buy a real naturally aspirated supercar like 458 or carrera gt!
i'm no one to judge you, but in my opinion, the "coolness" of the McLaren is its sheer speed, but the 458 is more exciting to look at, it makes a better noise and just seems more like a racing car, I feel the McLaren is more of a technological showcase rather than a proper legendary car ( I would rather have the old McLaren F1 rather than this one, but again, that's just me)
@serginietor In many tracks the ferrari is faster like bedford autodrome, but apart from that the ferrari is a far better drive. If I want a turbocharged car I don't need to spend a fortune, I can modify any car or get a nissan gtr. If you want a real supercar (n/a) Get a Ferrari!
@MrsShadowBroker I'd rather have the McLaren at least it won't be a based on a Beetle, i agree on the Ferrari, never too sure if it might go up in flames.
@jackrandall Won't be based on a Beetle? What do people like you like to stereotype a lot? The first Porsche 911 shared a few underpinnings with the original Beetle and that's about it, the new 991 type is a different car altogether after a number of decades. The new Carrera S does 7:40 at the Nurburgring right of the production line, how's that for the normal 'standard' 911. Imagine what the new 911 Turbo can do then, better yet, what the 911 Turbo S can do.
@OwnedRaze This list is way out but then it's very selective as to how modified these cars are ie semi slicks . I remember years ago (2008?) a Ferrari Enzo did it in 7:25 which at the time was unbelievable. I think this list should be updated so as not to give the incorrect impression. I don't doubt the McLaren is a brilliant car but the test is at Nurburgring.
@VonTripps Mhm indeed, ideally it would very very difficult to get an fair and up to date set of results since it would have to be the same driver for all those cars (insuring same skill) and same weather conditions etc. I go through to much lab work, 'fair tests' are etched into my brain lol
It would be nice if they allowed us to view JUST the in-car camera around the entire track, for the full 7+ minutes. Not the cut-shots to the driver every 3 seconds. I want to see the entire lap!
@soulofnero The list at 2.56 must be filtered in some way, or perhaps slightly different track layout, Lap record was 6.48 by a Radical, the ZR1 has a time of 7.19.63. Looks like a dozen cars missing from this list, all faster than 7.24. Maybe different criteria. Viper ACR recently set a time of 7.12.13.
@Marcus1130 Oh do be quiet, you just badge chase. Alot of top motor sports teams are UK based, and a hell of alot of cars are built here too. You can argue that many Nissans are Brit cars, same as the Honda Civic? Same way as you talk about a Rapide being Austrian...
| come to the conclusion that 90% of the posts listed below are complete bull. Face it the car isn't just good, its very very good. The car was on the Corsa tyres which are semi-slicks but which are road legal. The Nissan GTR ran on semi-slicks no matter how much Nissan wants you to think otherwise. No car can perform lateral G's for that time without those tyres.
@jimplaid Let me see, Jaguar and Range Rover are indian cars. Mini, Rolls Royce and Bentley are owned by German companies. Rover disappeared somewhere(?). Lotus are busy doing fancy sketches and Morgan still make their cars in wood (by hand). The kitcars you are mentioning I would not consider as cars. Did you also wonder why Top Gear (I believe they are English - all of them) preferred the Ferrar 458 as opposed to the McLaren? The "Empire" does not exist anymore ol' chap. Keep trying.
Not bad for such an ugly car. Even more surprising is that the suspension did not break down as it did in many other tests. Then again, it's built in England. No wonder why Aston Martin decided to build the Rapide in Austria...
@Marcus1130 trolling will not get you anywhere..everyone has the right to say what they think,but all you do is insult british people and british manufacturers..get a life and do something about that frustration..
@murphyloi If you call facts an insult, then let it be so. The only ones who are frustrated are the boys at Mc Laren after all of the leading British car magazines preferred the Ferrari 458 against the Mc Laren. Maybe they got a point or are they "trolling" as well?
@Marcus1130 Fact: it may seem ugly to you but for many others is beautiful..fact:ALL the cars have issues when releasing a new model fact:i don't see any british car magazine writer saying mclaren is rubbish..fact:they chose the 458 over the mclaren because it's a bit better NOT BECAUSE IT'S CRAP LIKE YOU STATED..trolling means posting hate comments,not your opinion,exactly like you did :)
I am literally laughing out loud at the comments from people calling this car 'a heap of shit'. Thats the thing about youtube, it showcases all the dickheads in one place.
@vitto Corvette ZR1 ran on semi-slick tires. Corvette ZO6 ran on semi-slick tires. Nissan GT-R ran on semi-slick tires....fact: all supercars are driven on track tires when they're lapping the Nurburgring. It takes 10-15 seconds off of the lap time. Ferrari 458 for example, set the 7:38 on stock road tires it comes with when you buy the car. With track semi-slick tires, it would run close to 7:20 as well.
imo, the nordschleife is too dependant on the endurance of the driver to be considered the absolute benchmark. But I don't really care about track times at all tbh. It's all about the feeling of the car for me.
so many idiots said that top gear was biased to mclaren and that their lap times were fake...im pretty sure those idiots are keeping their mouth shut now...haha
@shobin05 Its funny how an idiot like you believes Sport Auto's time without any complete video. They are using MANUAL stopwatches to measure time on the track, while official times are done using motion sensors accurate to milliseconds.
@rforracing waw accurate stop watches would make a lot of diffrence...what 10 second gap?? even if they started early it wouldnt have been that big of a gap..they could stop for a fucking tea, you incompetent fool..
@shobin05 hahah you really are the bigger fool here. Ferrari 458 was 0.1 sec quicker than the Mclaren around the same track (same conditions, same driver). Here is the video link watch?v=RYUZrUpe61s
All you Mclaren fanboys are retards who believe the Top Gear and Sport Auto times. Top gear is biased towards British cars anyways. Mclaren was just MARKETING their car through Top Gear.
@rforracing so what youre saying is that top gear, the worlds most famous motoring show and this video is fake? yup i completely believe you genius, you seem to know what youre talking about...mclaren said they did this in one lap...which means the car could go even faster...i honestly couldnt care less about what you have to say, until their official time is set, you remember who won this argument....dumbass
@shobin05 You should know Mclaren will never officially lap the MP4 on Nurburgring. And did you even see the comparison video I gave you the link of?
EVOTV and Auto Express both tested 458 Italia and Mclaren on their tracks with the same driver and guess what? Ferrari was FASTER. Do your research dumb fuck.
@rforracing i HAVE seen it a long long time ago...it was still faster than the 458 in autocar test track, rockingham and a few more...do YOUR research dumbass..some tracks the ferrari was faster...but the nurburgring is the real test, because it really shows how big of a distance a car could pull away...and from where im sitting, ferrari is NOT going to be faster than this...no way in hell..
Dodge's first time out (3 damn years ago, with archaic, out-dated tech) with their plastic piece of shit Viper ACR ran quicker times, what the hell is going on McLaren? Come on McLaren, you can't beat the American shitbox Viper ACR? For a car costing 250K, these times suck. Plain and simple. Germans claim they do it better than anyone else, well, where is the proof? All that damn tech and you are 16 seconds behind a pile of shit called the Dodge Viper ACR.
@dobbins2550 Dont be a moron. ACR has done that time with fully slick tires and its like a racing car for road. Its got aerodynamic feaures on it that no other road car has. It has spoilers that are bigger than some small city cars... and it still is a piece of crap car. Its a car tuned specifically to go fast around track. Guess what, cars arent built to go around track. Its easy to make a car go fast around the track, but it will suck at everything else.
@dobbins2550 I hate when people look at things so one-dimensionally like you do. ACR might be fast on track, but its useless on roads with those tires and that suspension setup. Germans claim to build CARS better than anyone else, and they do. Because their cars do EVERYTHING. Not just go around track. They're comfortable, well built, luxurious, refined, AND fast. ACR is just fast. Its like a go-cart with a 600hp engine. MP4-12C, 458, 911 GT2, ZR1, GT-R...those are road CARS.
@dobbins2550 One more reason why ACR is so fast, is because, as you said, its a plastic shitbox. Its weighs nothing, because it has nothing inside, no radio, no aircon... Mclaren has all the luxury you can ever want from a car. Interior crafted from best materials possible. Its a comfortable and relaxing cruiser if you want it to be, and a hard-core race car when you want it to be. Thats why its a good car. And thats why ACR is not a good car. It doesnt work like a proper car in real world.
@derbigpr500 Wow... You really hate the Viper ACR! Why? When you buy a Supercar don't you want the car to as fast as possible? Claiming you have to be a millionaire to afford these cars and use them for recreational sport. I don't believe someone who can afford these cars would care about weather or not its "luxurious" because that would employ in economic terms the "Snobb effect". But, back to the point how can this car not be compared to such Supercars as the MP4? It depends on the consumer.
@dobbins2550 Viper ACR should never be compared to cars like MP4-12C, 458, 911 GT2, ZR1, GT-R... because its a road legal race car. By the way, lap times dont mean shit. You think you're gonna care whether you car can go around a track in 7:25 or 7:15? NO. Its about how the car drives, and thats one more category where ACR has nothing against those other supercars. You can buy a Formula 2 car if you want something faster than any car, but you dont buy it, because it doesnt work on road.
@justin02camaro Those numbers aren't the official manufacturer given lap time, which feature professional drivers and are considered absolute best-case scenarios. Rather they are the times Horst von Saurma has posted independently. They are slower, but it some ways a more accurate comparison for a 'civilian' driver.
Sport Auto tests are INDEPENDANT. So they are better comparisons than any a manufacturer wil provide after days/weeks of testing and setup chasing being the #1
@rforracing Sport Auto tests are INDEPENDANT. So they are better comparisons than any a manufacturer wil provide after days/weeks of testing and setup chasing being the #1
@banddude121 Nissan got a time of 7:26.7 in the 2009 GT-R (stock tires) video confirmed. When the fuck did Mclaren beat it? You dont seem to know what you're talking about.
@aieljose Nissan ran the GT-R on STOCK tires. At the end of the video you can see Sport Auto using semi slicks on the GT-R and still getting 7:38. Its obvious that Sport Auto has a bad driver.
@rforracing: Really, were you there to verify the GTR running on stock tires? All those laps in the low 7's are BS... the LFA the GT2, the GTR. No one else has ever gotten close to them
@arena2101 If you do your research and see the 2012 GT-R documentary "A promise fulfilled" you can see all the behind the scenes of the preparation they did for the lap, the driver and the engineer who developed the car.
No one else has ever gotten close to 7:24? Maybe because no one can drive the GT-R as good as Toshio Suzuki you dumbass.
@rforracing GT-R was driven on semi-slick tires. End of story. A car that weighs close to 2 tons, has less than 600 HP can't go around Nurburgring in 7:24 on road tires. Neither can it pull over 2G lateral force in corners. Its just something that is physically impossible for the tires to do. No doubt that Suzuki can drive the GT-R better than some car journalist, but 7:24 is not possible on stock tires. Pretty much all cars on nurburgring lap time list under 7:35 used track tires.
@rforracing First of all ZR1 comes stock with those GY Supercar tires, but it did the lap time on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure tires (which you can get as an option when you buy the car), and those are semi-slick tires, google to see how they look like..they almost completely slick. Secondly, ZR1 has 650 HP, weighs almost 300 kg's less than GT-R, is more aerodynamic, has lower center of gravity...it's suppose to be faster than GT-R. The only advantage GT-R has in theory is AWD.
@rforracing Maybe to you but all we have is nissans word that the car was stock and that counts for very little in my book when nobody can come close to matching those times and it's not just sportauto.
@aieljose Nissan confirmed it through the video and statement. In fact, the 2012 GT-R was filmed right before its run was about to start. Bone stock everything. Not even a roll cage.
@rforracing So basically you are saying the GTR and ZR1 are only capable of their times in the hands of a ring expert. That doesn't say much for both those cars when you consider alot of other cars were lapped by much less experienced drivers like Horst von saurma for example. If you look at it that way then these tests are a lot more usefull and a better indication of performance because it better represents what is possible for the average GTR or ZR1 owner.
@DAthirdgenKID no and no...this is independent times, not bullshit companies claims. This is the 3º fastest time ever in sportauto. GT-R was slower as 458 italia..etc.
Why didn't they stick some semi slick tyres on? That's at least another 5-10 seconds in the bag! The next video has to be an attempt with ss tyres, think the LFA's time will be smashed!
Please Ron whole lap please! Thumbs up for McLaren putting whole lap up.
muppetnumpty65 2 weeks ago 2
7min28sec ??!! I expect it to be around 7min20sec .......... How can a GTR which has less power and heavier did it only 7min24sec ??!!
Jeremyevo90 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Jeremyevo90 this is the first official run for the car around Nordschleife, normally cars can cut down atleast 5 seconds with their subsequent runs, the GTR didnt get 724 on its first run.
outdoorsolidus 1 month ago
@Jeremyevo90 Has this guy not just demonstrated that he went 10 seconds quicker than he did with the GTR? If one man has driven the above list of cars around in those speeds, they're probably much more relevant than the 'official' ring list
danglingslong 2 weeks ago
Put some michelin pilot sport cup tires and Sabine Schmitz behind the wheel and I bet this thing will go even faster...
I mean.. the lady overtook mean-ass cars while driving a Ford Transit on that track.
KhanTheTigon 1 month ago
@KhanTheTigon I'm sorry, a woman? She's bleed all over the seat and then have a go at you
danglingslong 2 weeks ago
Cant wait for Lamborghini Aventador lap time.... I think it will crack 7 minutes. Its insanely fast on all other tracks, and its gonna come into its own on Nurburgring with that epic 4WD, 700hp and racecar-like aerodynamics.
derbigpr500 1 month ago
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derbigpr500 1 month ago
Turbocharged supercars are a waste of money no matter how fast they are! Don't pay a fortune for a laggy car! If you just want to be fast ...Get a nissan gtr! ...or buy a real naturally aspirated supercar like 458 or carrera gt!
kdkalamariotis 2 months ago
@kdkalamariotis GTR iS turbocharged...twice (' o')/ NA cars i do prefer tho
Nismo12121 2 months ago
That is extremely fast considering that the conditions weren't perfect! Would love to see what it could do in the bone dry!
petrolhead229 3 months ago
I will love to drive it, but is way 2 fast for me....<3
Blackheartlov 3 months ago
i wonder how fast can the car go with semi-slicks tyres.
jackeykang89 3 months ago
@jackeykang89 What's the difference between the normal tires this car is using and semi-slick tires?
rvind92g 2 months ago
faster than the 458 for sure, but is it cooler? don't think so.
serginietor 3 months ago
@serginietor Oh, I think so..
dabomb4333 3 months ago
@dabomb4333 really?
i'm no one to judge you, but in my opinion, the "coolness" of the McLaren is its sheer speed, but the 458 is more exciting to look at, it makes a better noise and just seems more like a racing car, I feel the McLaren is more of a technological showcase rather than a proper legendary car ( I would rather have the old McLaren F1 rather than this one, but again, that's just me)
serginietor 3 months ago
@serginietor In many tracks the ferrari is faster like bedford autodrome, but apart from that the ferrari is a far better drive. If I want a turbocharged car I don't need to spend a fortune, I can modify any car or get a nissan gtr. If you want a real supercar (n/a) Get a Ferrari!
kdkalamariotis 2 months ago
@kdkalamariotis I agree with you, I'd rather have the ferrari than the mclaren.
serginietor 2 months ago
@kdkalamariotis I'd rather have a Porsche, least then it won't catch on fire :)
MrsShadowBroker 2 months ago
@MrsShadowBroker I'd rather have the McLaren at least it won't be a based on a Beetle, i agree on the Ferrari, never too sure if it might go up in flames.
jackrandall 2 months ago
@jackrandall Won't be based on a Beetle? What do people like you like to stereotype a lot? The first Porsche 911 shared a few underpinnings with the original Beetle and that's about it, the new 991 type is a different car altogether after a number of decades. The new Carrera S does 7:40 at the Nurburgring right of the production line, how's that for the normal 'standard' 911. Imagine what the new 911 Turbo can do then, better yet, what the 911 Turbo S can do.
rvind92g 2 months ago
@jackrandall Not to worry, everyone seems to be designing their cars to look like Ferrari's these days (MP4-12C, Spyder 918 ...)
MrsShadowBroker 2 months ago
@jackrandall If you think 911 is based on a bettle and if you look at it like that....then maybe you should consider learning a bit more about cars.
derbigpr500 1 month ago
Wow thats pretty inpressive results at the end just four seconds away from the other cars, and they have semi slick tires.
acidrain55 4 months ago
Doesn't matter how it looks, because while you are sitting in the car all you can see is the interior and feel the Raw yet subtle power.
TheTornado4000 4 months ago 4
body style doesn't impress me as much as the speed, qualities, and all, but who cares! one of the most unbelievable vehices iver ever seen.
SupercarAdic 4 months ago
@McLarenAutomotiveTV
we want to listen to the car, not some dodgy music!
Awesome car, though I don't understand when people say the McLaren is better in every way than the 458, and then say the 458 is the better car :/
1kilohawk 4 months ago
People, these lap times are the times he did in those cars, not the official lap times made by the manufacturers themselves.
aurionatx 4 months ago
Awesome car, but the time list is grossly inaccurate.
alexmaclean1 4 months ago
i need these supercar
rome2010ist 4 months ago
give free for someone
rome2010ist 4 months ago
The list at 2:56 can't be right can it...
i've seen something along the lines of the GT-R and ZR1 being low 7:20s
OwnedRaze 4 months ago
@OwnedRaze This list is way out but then it's very selective as to how modified these cars are ie semi slicks . I remember years ago (2008?) a Ferrari Enzo did it in 7:25 which at the time was unbelievable. I think this list should be updated so as not to give the incorrect impression. I don't doubt the McLaren is a brilliant car but the test is at Nurburgring.
VonTripps 4 months ago
@VonTripps Mhm indeed, ideally it would very very difficult to get an fair and up to date set of results since it would have to be the same driver for all those cars (insuring same skill) and same weather conditions etc. I go through to much lab work, 'fair tests' are etched into my brain lol
Either way, MP4 is a beast (y)
OwnedRaze 4 months ago
James May isn't going to be happy
andi9512 4 months ago
Love this car and love this track. Couldn't have a better combination!
Leemstradamus 4 months ago
I raced that car round the same track twice today on Forza 4... until the servers went down...
flashman81 4 months ago
MP4-12C is god damn beautiful
AdamLawrence1992 4 months ago
lame car
WorldWideMMAFighting 4 months ago
i have one of these... on forza 4
ASMedia2009 4 months ago
i have one of these
tanaii1 4 months ago
wow...where are you getting your lap times from? severely misleading...
dasfurian 4 months ago
LOL an automatic
madbab00n 4 months ago
Great video, but I was disappointed with the times they posted of other cars at the end. The ZR1 ran the ring in 7:21 not 7:38.
c32amgftw 4 months ago
@c32amgftw :l They Should have posted both the Radical SR8 times 6:48 and 6:55
xxTOURiiNG 4 months ago
R35 + another £50k tweaking = No.1
EpicPremonitionUK 4 months ago
I hope mclaren make a more hardcore version, lightened with 700hp just to stomp the competition once and for all. The tech on that car is crazy.
blackvapour 4 months ago
Shame their F1 team isn't up to this level!! :p
TBAWazzock 4 months ago
porsche 911 gt2 rs still at the top . i like this car tho its smart looking .
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videomakintom 4 months ago
I have one! on Forza 4 ;(
T0ME97 4 months ago
It would be nice if they allowed us to view JUST the in-car camera around the entire track, for the full 7+ minutes. Not the cut-shots to the driver every 3 seconds. I want to see the entire lap!
alb639 4 months ago 18
viper and the zr-1 stomped this things ass
redhot916spd 4 months ago
@redhot916spd
Troll? or did you not watch to 2:56? This car is a full 10 seconds faster than the ZR-1. In the world of motorsport thats more like 10 years.
soulofnero 4 months ago
@soulofnero The list at 2.56 must be filtered in some way, or perhaps slightly different track layout, Lap record was 6.48 by a Radical, the ZR1 has a time of 7.19.63. Looks like a dozen cars missing from this list, all faster than 7.24. Maybe different criteria. Viper ACR recently set a time of 7.12.13.
aczdc69 4 months ago
@redhot916spd Congratulations Sir, you have proven yourself to be among the least intelligent percentile of YouTubers . Well done!
RoryMacLeodFitness 4 months ago
@redhot916spd And the Radical Destroys all <3 :3
xxTOURiiNG 4 months ago
2:56 old data
kametak 4 months ago
even as a ferrari tifosi, i must say the mac looks so much better in person.
upercalm16 4 months ago
@Marcus1130 Oh do be quiet, you just badge chase. Alot of top motor sports teams are UK based, and a hell of alot of cars are built here too. You can argue that many Nissans are Brit cars, same as the Honda Civic? Same way as you talk about a Rapide being Austrian...
RyanK733 4 months ago
Pretty good. I love the car, but give me an LFA any day! Even faster on its road tyres! :)
RyanK733 4 months ago
That time was shit, I ran the track in 3:45.
jellybeeeaan92 4 months ago
@jellybeeeaan92 pfff i ran it in 30 sec with a prius
MakuthePOtHead 4 months ago
If you think this car is crap then i want to know what you drive.
muchowavm 4 months ago
| come to the conclusion that 90% of the posts listed below are complete bull. Face it the car isn't just good, its very very good. The car was on the Corsa tyres which are semi-slicks but which are road legal. The Nissan GTR ran on semi-slicks no matter how much Nissan wants you to think otherwise. No car can perform lateral G's for that time without those tyres.
jackrandall 4 months ago
Give me a GT-R over all of those other cars, That would leave me 10 seconds behind but with 100 grand spare in my pocket. YES PLEASE!
dansmi54321 4 months ago
Unbelievable fast,and if you disagree with me take a look a lap time in top gear test track!!!
morpheas8 4 months ago 6
KSA
Mr322M111 4 months ago
@jimplaid Let me see, Jaguar and Range Rover are indian cars. Mini, Rolls Royce and Bentley are owned by German companies. Rover disappeared somewhere(?). Lotus are busy doing fancy sketches and Morgan still make their cars in wood (by hand). The kitcars you are mentioning I would not consider as cars. Did you also wonder why Top Gear (I believe they are English - all of them) preferred the Ferrar 458 as opposed to the McLaren? The "Empire" does not exist anymore ol' chap. Keep trying.
Marcus1130 4 months ago
Not bad for such an ugly car. Even more surprising is that the suspension did not break down as it did in many other tests. Then again, it's built in England. No wonder why Aston Martin decided to build the Rapide in Austria...
Marcus1130 4 months ago
@Marcus1130 trolling will not get you anywhere..everyone has the right to say what they think,but all you do is insult british people and british manufacturers..get a life and do something about that frustration..
murphyloi 4 months ago
@murphyloi If you call facts an insult, then let it be so. The only ones who are frustrated are the boys at Mc Laren after all of the leading British car magazines preferred the Ferrari 458 against the Mc Laren. Maybe they got a point or are they "trolling" as well?
Marcus1130 4 months ago
@Marcus1130 Fact: it may seem ugly to you but for many others is beautiful..fact:ALL the cars have issues when releasing a new model fact:i don't see any british car magazine writer saying mclaren is rubbish..fact:they chose the 458 over the mclaren because it's a bit better NOT BECAUSE IT'S CRAP LIKE YOU STATED..trolling means posting hate comments,not your opinion,exactly like you did :)
murphyloi 4 months ago
@murphyloi love the facts! =]
muchowavm 4 months ago
Amazing car but the Corvette ZL1, Viper ACR, and Lexus LFA Nurburgring Package all beat this car.
supercarsavy 4 months ago
@supercarsavy too bad that lexus car is not for sale
outdoorsolidus 4 months ago
I am literally laughing out loud at the comments from people calling this car 'a heap of shit'. Thats the thing about youtube, it showcases all the dickheads in one place.
Mubble 4 months ago
What is a semi-slick tires for Nissan GT-R?
Tread wear is more than three times higher than the Pirelli P Zero Corsa is using McLaren MP4-12C.
Pirelli P Zero Corsa: Treadwear rating 60
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx CT 600 DSST CTT: Treadwear rating 200
nhurhas 4 months ago
Semi slicks tires..it doesn't count.
vitto 4 months ago
@vitto Corvette ZR1 ran on semi-slick tires. Corvette ZO6 ran on semi-slick tires. Nissan GT-R ran on semi-slick tires....fact: all supercars are driven on track tires when they're lapping the Nurburgring. It takes 10-15 seconds off of the lap time. Ferrari 458 for example, set the 7:38 on stock road tires it comes with when you buy the car. With track semi-slick tires, it would run close to 7:20 as well.
derbigpr500 4 months ago
Take 15 seconds using slicks..that Ferrari can rape those F458 wanna be.
vitto 4 months ago
imo, the nordschleife is too dependant on the endurance of the driver to be considered the absolute benchmark. But I don't really care about track times at all tbh. It's all about the feeling of the car for me.
vithaj92 4 months ago
how it can be called supercar while it is slower than coupes like viper, corvette???
betkas13 4 months ago
@betkas13 I hope you are referring to the 458.
jackrandall 4 months ago
"it's astonishing! Is that it, 'astonishing'?"
"no that translates as roughly... "shit"
roosterandabaldguy 4 months ago
so many idiots said that top gear was biased to mclaren and that their lap times were fake...im pretty sure those idiots are keeping their mouth shut now...haha
shobin05 4 months ago 7
@shobin05 Wow people actually claimed that? Geez.
tsubodzuka 4 months ago
@shobin05 Its funny how an idiot like you believes Sport Auto's time without any complete video. They are using MANUAL stopwatches to measure time on the track, while official times are done using motion sensors accurate to milliseconds.
rforracing 4 months ago
@rforracing waw accurate stop watches would make a lot of diffrence...what 10 second gap?? even if they started early it wouldnt have been that big of a gap..they could stop for a fucking tea, you incompetent fool..
shobin05 4 months ago
@shobin05 hahah you really are the bigger fool here. Ferrari 458 was 0.1 sec quicker than the Mclaren around the same track (same conditions, same driver). Here is the video link watch?v=RYUZrUpe61s
All you Mclaren fanboys are retards who believe the Top Gear and Sport Auto times. Top gear is biased towards British cars anyways. Mclaren was just MARKETING their car through Top Gear.
rforracing 4 months ago
@rforracing so what youre saying is that top gear, the worlds most famous motoring show and this video is fake? yup i completely believe you genius, you seem to know what youre talking about...mclaren said they did this in one lap...which means the car could go even faster...i honestly couldnt care less about what you have to say, until their official time is set, you remember who won this argument....dumbass
shobin05 4 months ago
@shobin05 You should know Mclaren will never officially lap the MP4 on Nurburgring. And did you even see the comparison video I gave you the link of?
EVOTV and Auto Express both tested 458 Italia and Mclaren on their tracks with the same driver and guess what? Ferrari was FASTER. Do your research dumb fuck.
rforracing 4 months ago
@rforracing i HAVE seen it a long long time ago...it was still faster than the 458 in autocar test track, rockingham and a few more...do YOUR research dumbass..some tracks the ferrari was faster...but the nurburgring is the real test, because it really shows how big of a distance a car could pull away...and from where im sitting, ferrari is NOT going to be faster than this...no way in hell..
shobin05 4 months ago
Dodge's first time out (3 damn years ago, with archaic, out-dated tech) with their plastic piece of shit Viper ACR ran quicker times, what the hell is going on McLaren? Come on McLaren, you can't beat the American shitbox Viper ACR? For a car costing 250K, these times suck. Plain and simple. Germans claim they do it better than anyone else, well, where is the proof? All that damn tech and you are 16 seconds behind a pile of shit called the Dodge Viper ACR.
dobbins2550 4 months ago
@dobbins2550 Dont be a moron. ACR has done that time with fully slick tires and its like a racing car for road. Its got aerodynamic feaures on it that no other road car has. It has spoilers that are bigger than some small city cars... and it still is a piece of crap car. Its a car tuned specifically to go fast around track. Guess what, cars arent built to go around track. Its easy to make a car go fast around the track, but it will suck at everything else.
derbigpr500 4 months ago
@dobbins2550 I hate when people look at things so one-dimensionally like you do. ACR might be fast on track, but its useless on roads with those tires and that suspension setup. Germans claim to build CARS better than anyone else, and they do. Because their cars do EVERYTHING. Not just go around track. They're comfortable, well built, luxurious, refined, AND fast. ACR is just fast. Its like a go-cart with a 600hp engine. MP4-12C, 458, 911 GT2, ZR1, GT-R...those are road CARS.
derbigpr500 4 months ago
@dobbins2550 One more reason why ACR is so fast, is because, as you said, its a plastic shitbox. Its weighs nothing, because it has nothing inside, no radio, no aircon... Mclaren has all the luxury you can ever want from a car. Interior crafted from best materials possible. Its a comfortable and relaxing cruiser if you want it to be, and a hard-core race car when you want it to be. Thats why its a good car. And thats why ACR is not a good car. It doesnt work like a proper car in real world.
derbigpr500 4 months ago
@derbigpr500 Wow... You really hate the Viper ACR! Why? When you buy a Supercar don't you want the car to as fast as possible? Claiming you have to be a millionaire to afford these cars and use them for recreational sport. I don't believe someone who can afford these cars would care about weather or not its "luxurious" because that would employ in economic terms the "Snobb effect". But, back to the point how can this car not be compared to such Supercars as the MP4? It depends on the consumer.
supercarsavy 4 months ago
@dobbins2550 Viper ACR should never be compared to cars like MP4-12C, 458, 911 GT2, ZR1, GT-R... because its a road legal race car. By the way, lap times dont mean shit. You think you're gonna care whether you car can go around a track in 7:25 or 7:15? NO. Its about how the car drives, and thats one more category where ACR has nothing against those other supercars. You can buy a Formula 2 car if you want something faster than any car, but you dont buy it, because it doesnt work on road.
derbigpr500 4 months ago
Aren't some of those times inaccurate?
justin02camaro 4 months ago
@justin02camaro Those numbers aren't the official manufacturer given lap time, which feature professional drivers and are considered absolute best-case scenarios. Rather they are the times Horst von Saurma has posted independently. They are slower, but it some ways a more accurate comparison for a 'civilian' driver.
xryancat 4 months ago
What a car!
Martin280967 4 months ago
ACR spanks this heap of crap
faded2blak 4 months ago
Viper ACR still wins LOL
iHasPistons 4 months ago
belta
powellsimon 4 months ago
Sport Auto tests are INDEPENDANT. So they are better comparisons than any a manufacturer wil provide after days/weeks of testing and setup chasing being the #1
MatraEtAlpine 4 months ago
7:28 LOL?
This shows that Sport Auto's tests are total crap. Nissan offically tested their 2009 GT-R and got a time of 7:26 and they could only manage 7:38.
This is useless.
rforracing 4 months ago
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@rforracing Sport Auto tests are INDEPENDANT. So they are better comparisons than any a manufacturer wil provide after days/weeks of testing and setup chasing being the #1
MatraEtAlpine 4 months ago
@rforracing YOU ARE USELESS
diogopintotarrafa 4 months ago
@rforracing It beat the GTR. What are you talking about?
banddude121 4 months ago
@banddude121 Nissan got a time of 7:26.7 in the 2009 GT-R (stock tires) video confirmed. When the fuck did Mclaren beat it? You dont seem to know what you're talking about.
rforracing 4 months ago
@rforracing Its at 2:56
banddude121 4 months ago
@rforracing Or maybe nissan are not running with completely stock cars. It's not just sport auto, nobody has been able to match nissans times.
aieljose 4 months ago
@aieljose Nissan ran the GT-R on STOCK tires. At the end of the video you can see Sport Auto using semi slicks on the GT-R and still getting 7:38. Its obvious that Sport Auto has a bad driver.
rforracing 4 months ago
@rforracing: Really, were you there to verify the GTR running on stock tires? All those laps in the low 7's are BS... the LFA the GT2, the GTR. No one else has ever gotten close to them
arena2101 4 months ago
@arena2101 If you do your research and see the 2012 GT-R documentary "A promise fulfilled" you can see all the behind the scenes of the preparation they did for the lap, the driver and the engineer who developed the car.
No one else has ever gotten close to 7:24? Maybe because no one can drive the GT-R as good as Toshio Suzuki you dumbass.
rforracing 4 months ago
@rforracing GT-R was driven on semi-slick tires. End of story. A car that weighs close to 2 tons, has less than 600 HP can't go around Nurburgring in 7:24 on road tires. Neither can it pull over 2G lateral force in corners. Its just something that is physically impossible for the tires to do. No doubt that Suzuki can drive the GT-R better than some car journalist, but 7:24 is not possible on stock tires. Pretty much all cars on nurburgring lap time list under 7:35 used track tires.
derbigpr500 4 months ago
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rforracing 4 months ago
@rforracing First of all ZR1 comes stock with those GY Supercar tires, but it did the lap time on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure tires (which you can get as an option when you buy the car), and those are semi-slick tires, google to see how they look like..they almost completely slick. Secondly, ZR1 has 650 HP, weighs almost 300 kg's less than GT-R, is more aerodynamic, has lower center of gravity...it's suppose to be faster than GT-R. The only advantage GT-R has in theory is AWD.
derbigpr500 4 months ago
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rforracing 4 months ago
@rforracing Maybe to you but all we have is nissans word that the car was stock and that counts for very little in my book when nobody can come close to matching those times and it's not just sportauto.
aieljose 4 months ago
@aieljose Nissan confirmed it through the video and statement. In fact, the 2012 GT-R was filmed right before its run was about to start. Bone stock everything. Not even a roll cage.
rforracing 4 months ago
@rforracing Again until someone other than nissan comes close to matching it i will continue to have my doubts.
aieljose 4 months ago
@aieljose You'll keep having doubts because no one will ever drive a Corvette ZR1 as fast as Jim Mero or Toshio Suzuki driving the GT-R.
Maybe some really good F1 drivers can, but they will need a lot of practice around the ring and getting used to the car.
rforracing 4 months ago
@rforracing So basically you are saying the GTR and ZR1 are only capable of their times in the hands of a ring expert. That doesn't say much for both those cars when you consider alot of other cars were lapped by much less experienced drivers like Horst von saurma for example. If you look at it that way then these tests are a lot more usefull and a better indication of performance because it better represents what is possible for the average GTR or ZR1 owner.
aieljose 4 months ago
Standard road tyres too, none of these semi-slicks like the rest of the field ;)
dparvin99 4 months ago
Just something about this car
Ill have the 458 any day
farazc4 4 months ago 2
where did they time it from? i dont think 2:46 is the right place to time
kind18cch 4 months ago
@kind18cch ooh my good...when someone dies in a movie he dies in real life do you know..!!!!
diogopintotarrafa 4 months ago
Zonda R 6:47 Nurburgring
zeka087 4 months ago
pretty much fed up with all the "claimed" lap times.
hajimekishi 4 months ago 9
@hajimekishi It's an independent assessor. What would you prefer?
PMonty146 4 months ago
i thought the vette and gtr were faster than 7:30 ?
DAthirdgenKID 4 months ago
@DAthirdgenKID no and no...this is independent times, not bullshit companies claims. This is the 3º fastest time ever in sportauto. GT-R was slower as 458 italia..etc.
diogopintotarrafa 4 months ago
they could of at least made it look better
MikeStevensUK 4 months ago
Sorry, the LFA Nurburgring edition's time 7.19.
icycoldfrost 4 months ago
Why didn't they stick some semi slick tyres on? That's at least another 5-10 seconds in the bag! The next video has to be an attempt with ss tyres, think the LFA's time will be smashed!
icycoldfrost 4 months ago
@icycoldfrost you are so off the point here.
diogopintotarrafa 4 months ago
yes,but will it be able to handle CANADA in the WINTER
assassin72 4 months ago
Love the McLaren but have to stick with the winningest manufacture in motorsports... Ferrari. If I had the cash... 458 hand down. Forza Ferrari!
Airforcefd 4 months ago
@Airforcefd Winningest? PORSCHE.
Coderoid 4 months ago
@Coderoid Porsche? OK... Link? I know Ferrari has the most wins in F1 and the oldest in Grand Prix racing.
Airforcefd 4 months ago
Beat the 458 by 10 seconds!!!
thginKxelA 4 months ago
no full onboard footage? :(
IGotNuked 4 months ago
james may is going to have a go old rant at this :D
matty0l214 4 months ago 49
@matty0l214 BOMB IT!!
thginKxelA 4 months ago
@matty0l214 they developed the car at TG test track but just wanted to know how fast it went around the ring, so its no harm...
shobin05 4 months ago
I'm sure That the Mclaren can better it next time, That is just from one lap!!, Ferrari 458 (7:38s) WTF!! Very well done Mclaren:)))))))
mxaxh1 4 months ago 9
of course..using semi slicks like the McRubish
vitto 4 months ago
@mxaxh1 Ferrari 458 didn't have track semi-slick tires, so take about 15 seconds away from that 7:38 if you want to compare it to Mclaren.
derbigpr500 4 months ago
@mxaxh1 7:28 was done with the 458, with Scuderia Autoropa. just saying
upercalm16 4 months ago
sweet!
monaxReplay 4 months ago