Interview with Aleksandar Mitreski from United Macedonian Diaspora

[GemistusPletho]

"he political and military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the century seem not to have heard Misirkov's call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians rather than Macedonians." (Long Danforth, "The Macedonian Conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a Transnational World", Princeton Univ Press, (December 1995, p.64)

[stefanmitreski]

somo napret ace

[tzakos1982]

STALIN TO BULGARIAN DELEGATION (G. Dimitrov, V. Kolarov, T. Kostov)

The Kremlin, 7 June 1946

Cultural autonomy must be granted to Pirin Macedonia within the framework of Bulgaria. Tito has shown

himself more flexible than you ...That a Macedonian consciousness has not yet developed among the population

is of no account. No such consciousness existed in Belarus either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic."

What's that??? no "Makedonski" consciousness before communist propaganda?

[McDonian]

you are as dumb and blind as one of Tsar Samuil's defeated soldiers, one more month, Slavi, one more month...

Are you a Slav, yes or no?

LOLski

[McDonian]

Macedonia, as a stand alone area, region etc. will remain in northern Greece, an area that more closely approximates to HISTORICAL and GEOGRAPHIC Macedonia, whose people in antiquity greeted each other with ΧΑΙΡΕ and not dobri vetser...

[cajceto]

slava i pocit za aleksandar i site zaginati makedonski unaci sto se borile za makedonija.

[McDonian]

can u please translate the bulgarian so Alexander's descendants will understand it...?

Sasha Veliki didn't go around saying dobri vetser...

[cajceto]

the only native bulgarian language is asian, bulgarians today speak macedonians language in a bulgarian dialect. you are just a stupid greek that wishes he was macedonian but has a dominant ethiopian blood type gene.

[McDonian]

and what makes you, a delusion, poor, unsophisticated, poorly dressed and hot-pepper eating south Slav, "superior" to Ethiopians??

[cajceto]

thank you for confirming your stupidity. south slavs do not exist as a race or ethnicity. macedonians do and macedonians are native to the balkans and speak the language macedonian distinct and different from greek always and still is.

get lost before you make your self look more stupid.

[McDonian]

WRONG

WRONG

WRONG

FUCKING WRONG

the race is Causasian, or European etc.

You speak a Slavic language, you are a Slav...

Are Albanians in Tetovo "Macedonians", or RoM citizens?

Anyway, foolish laddie, in a month u will be known as "Republic of Northern Macedonia",

[cajceto]

no macedonians admit that there is an albanian minority in macedonia because macedonia is a democracy. i sujest greece do the same and admit the large macedonian minority in greece before your houses start to burn down in flames.

[McDonian]

flames? lg mcdonian minority? Oh, you mean the 2.5 mln in Macedonia, the real one... Before you start with your 'poor man's' bravado and threats, remember: 1904-1908 Balkan War I Balkan War II WWI (1914-18) WWII (1940-45) Gr Civil War (1946-49) SNOF NOF Anton Kaltsef Tito Cold War (1949-90) 'Name dispute' (1990-?) If anyone is to 'burn' it's going to be you!

[cajceto]

don't forget 338 bc, we macedonians killed your entire greek army then and we will do it again.

[McDonian]

true, assuming the ancient macedonians were... slavs, and not other Greeks, like spartans fighting athenians, athenians fighting spartans, thebans fighting spartans, athenians fighting syracuseans etc etc.

and... assuming that you continue to get FUCKED, as you've had since the time of Tsar Samuil, it's plainly apparent that you have NOTHING in commong with 'those' Macedonians

[cajceto]

lol macedonians were not slavs and macedonians were not greek you looser. macedonians have always had a distinct language and still do today.

macedonia is a great country with many macedonians everywhere in the world.

accept it, deal with it, stop bothering me and get a life. byebye now looser

[nystonecold316]

Todays greek should realize that all their revolutionary heroes were Albanian, Vlachs, and "Slavs". Considering this fact in history where are these ethnic greeks that are supposedly related to the ancient hellenes?

[McDonian]

So, El Greco was actually El Slavo, or is that El Antiquo Makedonski?

Count Capodistrias was KLA-Skopje?

Let's see if you're still chirping in a month, slav boy

[cajceto]

fuck off back to turkey scum

[McDonian]

yr the turkeys friend.... miroslav

[McDonian]

so, as you can see, I am not going to insult you anymore, or, call you names etc. I will return to this video in one month's time to discuss the developments that have taken place since then...

[cajceto]

don't know why you even come back to bother me, you are a looser, no macedonians care about what greeks have to say, because you are all racist, bias and retarded, greece is fake, like yugoslavia is fake.

[McDonian]

so, why answer, Slav boy, when you, a delusional south Slav who believes he's got alex veliki's genes running through his testicles, don't care about what Greeks have to day????

[cajceto]

thanks for backing up my point, you are stupid.

[McDonian]

one month, Slav boy, one more month...

[McDonian]

and thus, I ask: Was all the "bad blood" necessary over the past 19 years? Or, was this yet another attempt by now "non-Bulgarian" Macedonian Slavs to "pay back" the Greek state for the military defeat and humiliation of the Greek Civil War (1946-49)

ever heard of cutting yr nose off to spite yr face..

[cajceto]

dude south slavs, yugoslavs do not exist, they are not an ethnicity, on the other hand macedonia, serbia, bulgaria and greece are ethnicities, hence nations.

[Terpsimos]

For Christ's sake your people didnt even have a written language until two GREEK priests decided to teach you how to ! LOL Macedonia has ALWAYS been Hellenic. Much like the Minoans, Myceneans etc. Your problem again is not with Greece. It is with your own identity. You are a bunch of cocharoaches eating off the lands you came to occupy starting in the 1500s. All Slavo-Skopians will be Albanians in 20 years anyway. Goce Delchev was Bulgarian. Clueless.

[cajceto]

macedonians do not have a problem with greeks, greeks have a problem with macedonians.

[McDonian]

btw, you'll also notice that I've completely "soiled" this video by the clueless yuppie 'interviewed' above.... It's beeen fqqqqed, my comments have obliterated yours and made you and the "umd" look silly and ridiculous, as you truly are

[cajceto]

McDonian , you are nothing but a mongolian that talks shit and doesn't leave people alone and can not comprehend with the fact that Macedonians don't speak the language of the ancient danai like todays former macedonian republic of greek mongolians do.

you can keep acting tough behind your computer screen but i bet when we start snipering you greeks not one of you keyboard warriors are going to pick up a gun and fight.

PUSSIES

[McDonian]

You would do well to keep to "snippering" albanians, remember the Ohrid Treaty?

Fight, what you mean against communist Slav insurgents, ask yr "begaltsi" about that one...

and, btw, what makes you, a south Slav piece of shit living in jugo-land, superior to a mongolian "talking shit"???

REMEMBER ANTON KALTSEV, his spirit will guide you

[cajceto]

the problem with talking shit you mongolian with dna from ethiopia is the truth always comes out.

Remember that you fake native to the balkans, and also remember Aleksandar Makedonski? yes he was king of Macedonia and not greece.

There's more Macedonians in Albania then there is Albanians in Macedonia, anyway how bout you look at your mongolian state greeks and its bigger problem with Albanians, Macedonians and Turks.

oh but you say 99% of the people that live in greece are greeks! yeman

[Terpsimos]

The problem with your people is the apparent loss of the evident definiton of the term Macedonia and Macedonians. For some reason your kind have chosen to ignore all historical facts PROVING BEYONG ANY QUESTION that the word and its people's were of Hellenic decent and origin. Are your people disticnt ? Sure, are you Slavs ABSOLUTELY ! We never denied your existance. We deny your absurd attempts at changing OUR HELLENIC history to define your existance.

[cajceto]

just accept the rise of macedon republic of macedonia and the ethnic macedonian communities all around the world you stupid person.

[McDonian]

stupidity is exemplefied by delusional south Slavs living overseas and employed in the utterly respectable occupations like baker, plumber etc. but who regurgitate pseudo-science, pseudo-history and pseudo-linguistics, making life for their kin back home difficult

[cajceto]

yeh, south slav's are stupid, so are the people who think yugo slavija was even a real ethnicity. was nikola tesla a slav? or was he macedonian? its funny how you talk about pseudo history, greece is in actual fact a pseudo country like the USA.

[McDonian]

are you "closer", intellectually, to delchev or ... risto (histo misto) stefov, a glorious ... administrative assistant in greater toronto?

are you closer, linguistically, to "J.S. Gandetto", another wacky south slav in the diaspora, or Miriskov?

[McDonian]

btw, as of Nov. 23, the "game" is up with the "name issue", it's going to be a composite name with a GEOGRAPHIC qualifier before the place name, i.e. North Macedonia, to differentiate between historical and geographical macedonia, which lies in modern-day Greece...

[Terpsimos]

you are amazing... LOL I pissed my pants reading your comments. God Bless you my compatriot.

[McDonian]

btw, I see on your page that you "like" the video showing the vandalisation of a Greek tourist bus carrying mostly elderly tourists to Ohrid.

Do you condone such behaviour? Is this "macho", you know, scrawling graffiti on a bus full of old tourists spending euros in your country?

Imagine if your folks had this done to them in Durres, or Tetovo, would you like that?

REMEMBER ANDON KALTSEV (KALTSEF) HIS MEMORY SHOULD BE YOUR GUIDE IN RELATIONS BETWEEN GREEKS AND SOUTH SLAVS

[cajceto]

acts 20:1 and 2

And after the uproar was ceased, Paul called unto him the disciples, and embraced them, and departed for to go into Macedonia. And when he had gone over those parts, and had given them much exhortation, he came into Greece.

The bible directly shows that the "greek myth" is wrong and does not add up to the reality of Republic of Macedonia.

Get over it and move on.

[McDonian]

Read the Bible in the original; you're not part of ancient Macedonia or Macedonians; you're a blood relative of Andon Kaltsev not Alex Veliki

The New Testament WAS NOT written in "many languages", it was translated into hundreds! It was written in Greek, are you 15 and one of the kids that painted the bus?? otherwise you sound rather uneducated on this subject, or, you ignore your nose to spite your face

[cajceto]

how would you know what language its written in? you cant even comprehend that macedonia is not greece and greece is not macedonia, you greeks are so narrow minded you even go against direct comments of the bible to support your propaganda.

Pirin+Vardar+Egej = UNITED MACEDONIA

Macedonia will rise again, don't you worry about that you a mongolic/ethiopian byzantine trash!

[McDonian]

and what makes you, a delusional poorly educated self-hating south Slav piece of shit, superior to mongolic/ethiopian byzantine trash??

Pirin+Vardar+Egej = UNITED MACEDONIA ? ? ? ?

M Ο Λ Ω Ν

Λ Α Β Ε (google it)

Μ Ο Τ Η Ε R

F U C K E R

[cajceto]

you know your wrong and thats why you are evil people! You think its a game, but Macedonians really going to come and slit all your throats!

SMRT ILI SLOBODA

[McDonian]

Slavs tried in WWI and Civil War, your dedos got killed and/or fucked; same will happen now, only the albanians will join in, as well...

:-}

pity, you were such a nice Slav lad in the beginning

[McDonian]

You need to do some comparative reading, as win REAL books by reputable western authors and then COMPARE, CONTRAST and come up with your OWN conclusions.

Again, the New Testament was written in KOINE Greek, the APOSTLE Paul addressed people in that language, not in Slavic

YOU ARE SLAVS, BE PROUD OF YOUR HERITAGE AND DON'T FABRICATE NEW IDENTITIES AND HISTORIES!!

Lumping Tsar Samuil, Alex Veliki, Gotse Delcheve and ... Andon Kaltsev into one ethnos is RIDICULOUS, you're sounding ridiculous

[cajceto]

The new Testament is written in many languages.

and anyway

just give me one quote in the bible that tells us what language paul spoke to the macedonians?

[cajceto]

one more thing i will say:

Paul went to Macedonia, Macedonians accepted Jesus as god. Where ever the Macedonian kingdom was, Orthodox went.

[McDonian]

Didn't Tito teach your folks manners? Bye bye means you reply courteously.

Ancient Macedonians spoke Greek, anyone that doesn't know this is semi-literate, a rube, or a lowly propagandist.

Most people in today fyrom speak a dialect developing from western Bulgarian, part of the Slavic family of languages.

THAT'S WHY YOU CAN ORDER SOUP IN SOFIA WITHOUT AN INTERPRETOR, DAHHHH

Greece INClUDES Macedonia, the real one, the one approximating to geographical and historical Macedonia.

[cajceto]

ok if so give me one quote in the bible that tells us what language paul spoke to the macedonians?

[McDonian]

and with that, I will bid you a ... Благодарение Честит Лято

[cajceto]

i am not bulgarian, greek, serbian or any of them things, i am Macedonian because both my parents and there parents and there's were. Its not my fault Macedonia has the oldest surviving name of a country in europe and that Greek propaganda doesn't add up to reality. Leave people alone now.

LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA.

And just because i am speaking english now, does not mean im english, god gave people power to communicate in many languages. Jews and Greeks didn't accept christianity :)

[McDonian]

bye bye

[cajceto]

and thanks for telling me where in the bible it says what language macedonians, spoke. as i can recall it doesn't say it anywhere, the only proof of what macedonians speak are the living proof of the people in republic of Macedonia and thats it.

Greece and you should say bye bye to macedonia because it has never been greek, and should accept the Republic of Macedonia as the country and nation its people have been for many many thousands of years.

Yes, BYE BYE

[McDonian]

You look for "differences" between ancient geographical Greece and Macedonia, 2000 years ago, and/or ethnic/linguistical/cultural differences between ancient peoples in an attempt to create and fabricate a new identity for the largest ethnic group of a new country: the former yugoslav republic of macedonia.

Beyond the large or small minority within this specific group (Slav Maks) no one else seems to believe it :-{

Moreover, it really doesn't matter in political terms...

[McDonian]

At least have the common decency to write it in the original text found in the New Testament! Do note, the NT refers to Macedonia/Μακεδονία and not to Dardania and/or Peonia, as Vardar Macedonia was known then. Paul spoke Greek to the people, in Thessalonica, Philippi etc. your dedos arrived six centuries later, as serfs of Byzantium

POZDRAV

[cajceto]

they are the exact words of the new testament, look up acts 20:1-3 and read it your self if you don't believe me! Macedonia and Greece are diffferent.

You don't believe in the bible?

you havn't read it?

or you cant handle the truth huh?

[cajceto]

if you don't believe me there were macedonians back then read:

Acts 27:2

And entering into a ship of Adramyttium, we launched, meaning to sail by the coasts of Asia; one Aristarchus, a Macedonian of Thessalonica, being with us.

i wonder why it was not a salonican, or greek but a MACEDONIAN !!!

[McDonian]

Aristarchus or Aristarchski?

Thessalonica (Victory over the Thessalonians) or Solun?

The New Testament was written in Koine Greek, is there a dispute, by you, of this? I understand what is written below, do you?

I will leave you with a bit of college logic (mathematics) 101, made simply for Balkan folk:

[McDonian]

here the paradigm (example in math):

/whether or not the ancient Greeks were or were not related to the ancient Macedonians/

/and whether or not modern Greeks are related to the ancient Greeks, and by extension, to the ancient Macedonians/

/In NO way means that the modern Slav Macedonians are "necessarily" related to any of the above/

[cajceto]

ok thank you for proving my point, backed up with words from the bible that Greece, and Macedonia are 2 different things. Only someone who claims himself as a Macedonian and nothing else can be a Macedonian, regardless of what language he/she speaks. GOOD BYE

[McDonian]

gr8 con'f, thanks, can you supply subtitles, or, if any of our Bulgarian friends can translate this.

thanks again

[cajceto]

get a life you afrikan ape

[McDonian]

and what makes you superior to Afrikan (sic) apes, you south Slav piece of shit??

[cajceto]

hahaha

are Macedonians slavic, or slavic are Macedonian?

who speaks greek anyway? appart from greece that is?

Macedonians are superior to afrikan apes because they are human and respect other peoples identity.

[McDonian]

and what makes you superior to Afrikan (sic) apes you south Slav piece of shit?

btw, it's "Macedonoid", not Macedonian, not you watch commercials on fyrom's state-run TV??

P.S. What are you if "Afrikan apes" are smarter, richer, more cultured and have kicked your dedos' asses in every military conflict over the past century since your "awakening"?

"Afrikan chimps", maybe?

[cajceto]

so you aggree that greeks are afrikans?

[McDonian]

what I would agree to is strictly in the sphere of the objective: i.e. you resemble the delusional and self-hating south Slavs in the former rump of Yugoslavia who have recently failed to defeat the Albanians, denigrate Bulgarian culture and seek yet another showdown with Hellenism, much like a punch-drunk, two-bit bar room braggard who, in the end, always gets his ass kicked...

Invest in a spell check, too, dear Miroslav

[cajceto]

Macedonian empire will rise again.

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA

[McDonian]

I certainly hope another Macedonian empire, based on a modern republic, does RISE again! It will go a long way to again ADVANCING Hellenism worldwide, and again, be the SCOURGE of south Slavs!

[cajceto]

keep believing in fiction then, up to you.

[McDonian]

Merci,

I've started to re-read my collection of Jules Verne and Isaac Asimov. I've been reading too much propaganda, lately, i.e. risto histo stefov (stefou) and two other chaps, Donski and one Gandeto/Grzlevski.

Have a good summer :-}

POZDRAV

[cajceto]

you been reading so much bulshit and listening to the propaganda of Greece/Bulgarian politiks that you are not focusing on the truth that there is a Macedonian minority in all surrounding countries of the Republic of Macedonia.

There is only one truth, one Macedonia.

Macedonia for Macedonians

[McDonian]

Your "truth" is a tiny minority... 2,000 self-hating bulgarians in florina makes not a minority

[cajceto]

i will kill for macedonia

i will kill you if you keep this racist attitude up

[McDonian]

live by the sword, die by the sword, look up your Old Testament...

Btw, do you know how ridiculous you sound, like a poor man's bragging... on YouTube, no less...

REMEMBER ANDON KALTSEV, WE DON'T PLAY AROUND WITH TRAITOROUS SOUTH SLAVS

[cajceto]

proyugoslavians, probulgarians, and progreeks ARE ALL A DISCRACE TO MACEDONIA AND MACEDONIANS.

and if you notice in the old testament the word greek is not anywhere to be seen, and macedonia is.

anyway:

New testament:

Acts 19:29; 2

natives or residents of MACEDONIA, a region located north of Greece

[McDonian]

Old Testament is ... Different from New!

New Testament was written in Greek, the Old in Hebrew.

Macedonia, the one in the NT, lies in Greece, the Apostle Paul spoke to the people in Greek, not in any Slavic dialect!, i.e. Paul's EPISTLE (a letter/message in Greek) to the Thessalonians, not the Solunians!

Macedonia IS Greece

You refer to fYRoM

[cajceto]

Acts 20:1-6 1

And after the uproar was ceased, Paul called unto him the disciples, and embraced them, and departed for to go into Macedonia. 2 And when he had gone over those parts, and had given them much exhortation, he came into Greece, 3 And there abode three months. And when the Jews laid wait for him, as he was about to sail into Syria, he purposed to return through Macedonia.

look at it how you like, macedonia is not greek, greek is not macedonia.

[McDonian]

1 Μετὰ δὲ τὸ παύσασθαι τὸν θόρυβον μεταπεμψάμενος ὁ Παῦλος τοὺς μαθητὰς καὶ παρακαλέσας, ἀσπασάμενος ἐξῆλθεν πορεύεσθαι εἰς Μακεδονίαν. 2 διελθὼν δὲ τὰ μέρη ἐκεῖνα καὶ παρακαλέσας αὐτοὺς λόγῳ πολλῷ ἦλθεν εἰς τὴν Ἑλλάδα

[cajceto]

and please do give me one statement in the bible about what language spoke paul to the macedonians.

[lazhets]

First Class conference, hats off to the UMD!!!