This is great, but there's another shooting scene that this clip misses out involving men who Pat Tate owed money to. The "Hexal Brothers" (not the real names) I seem to recall.
2 cartridges found by the door pat was leaning on interesting maybe the gun was placed against the glass and then fired i always thought they fired from were steele got out
@leedumett444 Yeah i did for a long time but why are there 2 cartridges near Pats head? Would make sense to walk around before firing at his head cos he was all hunched up after the first shot and it wasn't easy to get to his head from the offside. Hard to tell as there are no views of him inside the car.
@leedumett444 I think the gun was placed against the glass and fired which smashed it then skimmed pats head. the killer then put the barrel against tates head and fired again. 2 cartridges were found by the door pat was leaning on so this must be what happened.
Fuck off you assholes know nothing nobody deserves to be killed like that and for the fucking record these guys were true hardknocks fucking gangsters!!!
It's been talked about and filmed so many times that the horror of the whole situation has been dampened down but if you saw them in that lane on one of the crime scene pics it really brought the horror home. Strangely that pic is no longer available.
Im usually fine about gory scenes but this one really screwed me up. I mean, talk about ammo. They really didnt want them bodys identifiable. Anyway, thanks for your comment - I'll be searching for them pics :)
A more graphic front nearside view in the field where you can see Tony and Pat clearly. It was on his site until the police told him to take the pics down. When he put them back up it was gone. I had it saved but my computer got wiped at some stage.
See lower down. The pic was taken down the track and shows blood coming out of Tuckers ear. Also it shows blood sprayed all over Pats head and the car door.
I remember that pic. Tucker had a reasonable amount of blood coming out his earhole.
I never noticed the photo had been removed. All those excuses for them being displayed on the net and one's removed. Doesn't that kind of create a flaw in Bernie's arguement for them being there in the first place. I forget what the crime vultures excuse is now.
Yes i have a strong suspicion he's saving it for a new book. I have e mailed him anonymously numerous times and told him it's mising but he never puts it back up.
@Terminator860 i do agree. these films do do the situation justice. i had actually seen the crime scene photos before watching the actual film and they had hit me like a brick in the face...
Go onto Google and take the Moderater / Safe Search Off. and Google: Tony Tucker Pat Tate Craig Rolfe. It's the second picture of them in the Range Rover and click on that and there you will find all the pictures of them after the shootings.
@ThePalmofHonour Very rare for 3 guys to be murdered together with a shotgun in a confined space like a car. The fact they were able to handle themselves and were found in a snowy field just sitting relaxed in their seats just makes it all the more bizzarre. I wouldnt feel comfortable shooting at 3 nutcases in slippery conditions at point blank range to be honest
if any of you want to see the real pictures of those scenes just drop me a comment and ill show you them cause i don't want to spam up this comment page.
The reason this film got such bad reviews is cos it told it how it is, something the government don't want you to know, theres a lot more to this story, and the government side to it!
MDMA, it just keeps your body cool, you try jumping around a room for 3 hours, even without MDMA, you will start to get hot, and you will need water to cool down. It was miss information that killed that girl, yet everyone got a pack of lies.
didn't know what she was doing, probably because the government suppressed information about the drug. drinking too much water can kill you, it floods your brain! - ever noticed how it is an ecstasy related death, and not an ecstasy death? overdosing on MDMA will just make you very sleepy! 5000 people die of alcohol related deaths every year, 1-20 die of ecstasy RELATED deaths! and most of that is overheating.
Actually Lea Betts died of a water overdose, not MDMA, MDMA does not have the ability to kill you, however some of the other ingreidients put in the pills to make up the content does.
Originally in 1988 MDMA was MDMA, later in 1998 the drug manufacturers started putting other stuff in like caffeine etc, to make it cheaper to produce. Lea Betts died due to a massive intake of water, unfortunately she
If the old bill had done it they would have come along with a police transporter and disposed of the range rover and bodies before it was discovered by the public. Then the 3 would just be missing person cases.
what i ment was it would be smart to have the police do it beacuse if someone saw the police would egt into trouble , so if it was the police they would want the public to think the steele ect did it so they may have not killed them but the police need someone to blame
and im right you never shut up you always have to say some stupid comment that would never happen , so i think on my and other peoples behalf you should shut up
Pats arm did'nt smash the glass ffs. The glass was smashed cos the first shot skimmed Tates head then hit the window. They totally fucked this scene up. Also, Jack did'nt go around opening all the doors to kill them all the shots but one came from the rear offside.
I've seen all the crime scene photos. Pat has a huge graze running over the back of his scalp caused by the first shotgun blast to his head. Where do you think the shot travelled after it grazed his head? Straight through the rear window.
Also, Tuckers wounds were on the right side of his face and behind his right ear. If he was blasted the way they did it in the film the wound would be behind his left ear.
Fantastic movie - "blew me 'ead off", so to speak.
Why is it so unpopular (specially with critiqes)? Well, because it looks very real. No cool Tony Montana-like types, no anti-heroes, no cool last lines - just realistic violence. Just showing what a double-B shotgun will do to a human.
And there's no sympathy for any of the characters. Why should there? They've been miserable cunts and we're glad they're dead. Something the 'liberal' viewer will not forgive ... \m/
I've been down that lane and it really is in the middle of nowhere. If the farmers had not been there the bodies would not have been discovered for days.
This is great, but there's another shooting scene that this clip misses out involving men who Pat Tate owed money to. The "Hexal Brothers" (not the real names) I seem to recall.
DrummerFreak04 7 months ago
it's GAZ from cod4
Mishapetrenko 11 months ago
FUCKING LEGENDS. 15 YEARS ON AND STILL TALKED ABOUT. R.I.P BOYS
nick61249 1 year ago
Gotta love the expression on Ben Harpers face - here's a man who fully enjoys his profession, gotta respect that!
fenriz218 1 year ago
Thank god those 3 scum died at the end, someone had to do it. The killers did something right in end and got rid or three bullies.
JReed1985 1 year ago
cant imagine what it takes for you to do that to some one so casually
Paintfiend123 1 year ago
@Paintfiend123 money makes people!
VEGAZme 1 year ago
@VEGAZ aye?
Paintfiend123 1 year ago
@VEGAZme And then destroys them
thebritish25 1 year ago
ik think the dutch or the turkish
Paki0416 1 year ago
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you think your so hard you fucking flash cunt, shup pat
Brinkworth123 1 year ago
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you think your so hard you fucking flash cunt, shup pat
Brinkworth123 1 year ago
you think your so hard you fucking flash cunt, shup pat
Brinkworth123 1 year ago
STEELE AND WHOMES ARE NAUGHTY BOYS
leedumett444 1 year ago
Great, they got what they deserved!
BigFatCode 1 year ago
i think the killer is tony blair
butchd2009 1 year ago
@butchd2009 Why whould the shaddow goverment go out of its way to kill three gangsters Blair came in 97
thebritish25 1 year ago
DOUBLE TAP :D
bietus 1 year ago
2 cartridges found by the door pat was leaning on interesting maybe the gun was placed against the glass and then fired i always thought they fired from were steele got out
leedumett444 1 year ago
@leedumett444 Yeah i did for a long time but why are there 2 cartridges near Pats head? Would make sense to walk around before firing at his head cos he was all hunched up after the first shot and it wasn't easy to get to his head from the offside. Hard to tell as there are no views of him inside the car.
Terminator860 1 year ago
happened in 1995, craig's hands were still on the steering wheel and his foot on the brake, obviously it happened pretty damn fast
ShoegazeNukeDeployed 1 year ago
pat didnt elbow the window a bullett smashed through it it grazed the top of pats head then went through the window
leedumett444 1 year ago
@leedumett444 I think the gun was placed against the glass and fired which smashed it then skimmed pats head. the killer then put the barrel against tates head and fired again. 2 cartridges were found by the door pat was leaning on so this must be what happened.
Terminator860 1 year ago
awesome how they set them up steele and wholmes underworld legends
leedumett444 1 year ago
I think they were dead the firt time they got shot :D!
lewblueish 1 year ago
ThePalmOfHonour - Your talking bollocks.
SuperMFC1 1 year ago
ThePalmOfHonour - Your talking bollocks.
SuperMFC1 1 year ago
So this movie was based of a true story?
WillKillForName 1 year ago
@WillKillForName yes, its the infamous Rettendon Murders that happened in 1998
smittileo 1 year ago
are these dudes supposed to be turkish mafia?
Guzzy91 1 year ago
this is the ONLY way to take care of business.
762milspec 2 years ago
this happened 14 years ago tomoro night ... freaky
mexicodriver 2 years ago
craig and tony died right away, but pat suffered really man.... damn begin shot at close range with a sawn off shotgun must me hurting like a bitch.
buyukyarak200 2 years ago
@buyukyarak200 all you can say about these three were they got OWNED
jamesthq 2 years ago
Fuck off you assholes know nothing nobody deserves to be killed like that and for the fucking record these guys were true hardknocks fucking gangsters!!!
G5ive1 2 years ago
am i the only one here truely fuckin horrified? wow thats fucked up
ben14279 2 years ago
It's been talked about and filmed so many times that the horror of the whole situation has been dampened down but if you saw them in that lane on one of the crime scene pics it really brought the horror home. Strangely that pic is no longer available.
Terminator860 2 years ago
Im usually fine about gory scenes but this one really screwed me up. I mean, talk about ammo. They really didnt want them bodys identifiable. Anyway, thanks for your comment - I'll be searching for them pics :)
ben14279 2 years ago
Most of them are on Bernardomahonies website.
Terminator860 2 years ago
which 1 u on about term..thought they where all on boms website?
opals44 2 years ago
A more graphic front nearside view in the field where you can see Tony and Pat clearly. It was on his site until the police told him to take the pics down. When he put them back up it was gone. I had it saved but my computer got wiped at some stage.
Terminator860 2 years ago
Which pic T? Give us some details...
MotherEarth1000 2 years ago
See lower down. The pic was taken down the track and shows blood coming out of Tuckers ear. Also it shows blood sprayed all over Pats head and the car door.
Terminator860 2 years ago
I remember that pic. Tucker had a reasonable amount of blood coming out his earhole.
I never noticed the photo had been removed. All those excuses for them being displayed on the net and one's removed. Doesn't that kind of create a flaw in Bernie's arguement for them being there in the first place. I forget what the crime vultures excuse is now.
MotherEarth1000 2 years ago
Yes i have a strong suspicion he's saving it for a new book. I have e mailed him anonymously numerous times and told him it's mising but he never puts it back up.
Terminator860 2 years ago
@Terminator860 i do agree. these films do do the situation justice. i had actually seen the crime scene photos before watching the actual film and they had hit me like a brick in the face...
keiko909 11 months ago
Oh the joy!!! This is pretty much a loser's film about losers for losers
MotherEarth1000 2 years ago
Go onto Google and take the Moderater / Safe Search Off. and Google: Tony Tucker Pat Tate Craig Rolfe. It's the second picture of them in the Range Rover and click on that and there you will find all the pictures of them after the shootings.
MrJackass95 2 years ago
Thats Fuckin True!!!!! Amazing !!!! But i prefer roland manookian ones, not Craig Rolfe's real photos.
MasterGTALoquendo 2 years ago
Is it true pat tate begged for his life?
GoldSeeker1012 2 years ago
only the killers will ever no that!!!!!!!!!
ladyeggwhite 2 years ago 7
they got fucked over bad man:)
RICEYbfd 2 years ago 2
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ShermanM1 2 years ago
Just business. Happens all the time in the North.
ThePalmofHonour 2 years ago 14
@ThePalmofHonour Very rare for 3 guys to be murdered together with a shotgun in a confined space like a car. The fact they were able to handle themselves and were found in a snowy field just sitting relaxed in their seats just makes it all the more bizzarre. I wouldnt feel comfortable shooting at 3 nutcases in slippery conditions at point blank range to be honest
Terminator860 1 year ago
@ThePalmofHonour it anit the north. its the east it was in essex
9skater2009 1 year ago
lol that guy was crying lmao
beanbagger62 2 years ago
wouldn't you?
Terminator860 2 years ago
Hard man, eh? I'd love to me you some dark night and stick my Remmington in your face.
ThePalmofHonour 2 years ago 2
id like to meet u and put my 12 gage in yo face
beanbagger62 2 years ago
thats messy
butterz2butterz2 2 years ago
sick that this actually happnd
united2008forever 3 years ago
if any of you want to see the real pictures of those scenes just drop me a comment and ill show you them cause i don't want to spam up this comment page.
franko656 3 years ago
will ya show us them pictures of the essex boys
stockey16 2 years ago
give me an email or something, im not posting them here i would be banned. its pretty bad just to let you know
franko656 2 years ago
what pictures
nina7447 2 years ago
this part of the film was sickening
Ragnorok112 3 years ago
what does leah betts death have do do with them? did they supply the E or something?
DeeJayTiesto2oo8 3 years ago
yes pat tate bought that batch
2503vinny 3 years ago
This you tube wont let me post urls, so check the wiki on Lea Betts!
steve77722 3 years ago
The reason this film got such bad reviews is cos it told it how it is, something the government don't want you to know, theres a lot more to this story, and the government side to it!
steve77722 3 years ago
MDMA, it just keeps your body cool, you try jumping around a room for 3 hours, even without MDMA, you will start to get hot, and you will need water to cool down. It was miss information that killed that girl, yet everyone got a pack of lies.
steve77722 3 years ago
didn't know what she was doing, probably because the government suppressed information about the drug. drinking too much water can kill you, it floods your brain! - ever noticed how it is an ecstasy related death, and not an ecstasy death? overdosing on MDMA will just make you very sleepy! 5000 people die of alcohol related deaths every year, 1-20 die of ecstasy RELATED deaths! and most of that is overheating.
Water does not counter act the effects of
steve77722 3 years ago
Actually Lea Betts died of a water overdose, not MDMA, MDMA does not have the ability to kill you, however some of the other ingreidients put in the pills to make up the content does.
Originally in 1988 MDMA was MDMA, later in 1998 the drug manufacturers started putting other stuff in like caffeine etc, to make it cheaper to produce. Lea Betts died due to a massive intake of water, unfortunately she
steve77722 3 years ago
the old bill done that and its completely fucking justified to me i agree id do the same thing if my daughter was lea betts
mattyooooooooo 3 years ago
If the old bill had done it they would have come along with a police transporter and disposed of the range rover and bodies before it was discovered by the public. Then the 3 would just be missing person cases.
Terminator860 3 years ago
fuck it what ever i aint botherd its just my oppinion dude
mattyooooooooo 3 years ago
no coz if sum1 saw it it would be the police and if they did would't they want to make it look like they did't
stefcici 3 years ago
If the police saw it they would have followed the killers home and called up armed response to bust their arses. It's not rocket science.
Terminator860 3 years ago
what i ment was it would be smart to have the police do it beacuse if someone saw the police would egt into trouble , so if it was the police they would want the public to think the steele ect did it so they may have not killed them but the police need someone to blame
stefcici 3 years ago
Why the hell would essex police want to murder TTR anyway? They were hardly the mafia just some essex hardcases.
Terminator860 3 years ago
i never said the police did it
stefcici 3 years ago
er, no. They would be cast iron witnesses.
Terminator860 3 years ago
shut up i don't give a fuck , there dead end of the the "killers" are in prison
stefcici 3 years ago
Why are you getting abusive? theres too many tits like you on youtube posting abuse behind the safety of your monitor.
Terminator860 3 years ago
im not im just get pissed of when dicks like you never shut up
stefcici 3 years ago
no its just theres to many dicks like you who never shut up
stefcici 3 years ago
You are a 19 year old lad from cambridge right? You would have only been 6 when this went down so just fuck off little boy.
Terminator860 3 years ago
see there you go again you don't shut up do you
stefcici 3 years ago
be quiet child before i blow your head off
Terminator860 3 years ago
omg im real scared :/..
and im right you never shut up you always have to say some stupid comment that would never happen , so i think on my and other peoples behalf you should shut up
stefcici 3 years ago
Answer me this? What was the name of pat tates sister in law? If you can't then fuck off this page cos you need to research this case more.
Terminator860 3 years ago
Debbie Tate
stefcici 3 years ago
Fair enough.
Terminator860 3 years ago
I cant believe your fucking arguing about it, its a fucking film.
I knmow it was in real but you guys dont have to waste your time arguing about it, its over now.
Taloraan 3 years ago
oh yes british gangstas dont fuk about
EnglishLunatic 3 years ago 2
Pats arm did'nt smash the glass ffs. The glass was smashed cos the first shot skimmed Tates head then hit the window. They totally fucked this scene up. Also, Jack did'nt go around opening all the doors to kill them all the shots but one came from the rear offside.
Terminator860 3 years ago
how do u know that?
NUFCtoonarmy69 3 years ago
I've seen all the crime scene photos. Pat has a huge graze running over the back of his scalp caused by the first shotgun blast to his head. Where do you think the shot travelled after it grazed his head? Straight through the rear window.
Terminator860 3 years ago
Also, Tuckers wounds were on the right side of his face and behind his right ear. If he was blasted the way they did it in the film the wound would be behind his left ear.
Terminator860 3 years ago
fuck that got down!
gothiccitizen 3 years ago
fajna rzeź
Qnik2007 3 years ago
ciekawe czy gdybyś tam był to mówiłbyś to samo??
GuitarOfTheBlues 3 years ago
Fantastic movie - "blew me 'ead off", so to speak.
Why is it so unpopular (specially with critiqes)? Well, because it looks very real. No cool Tony Montana-like types, no anti-heroes, no cool last lines - just realistic violence. Just showing what a double-B shotgun will do to a human.
And there's no sympathy for any of the characters. Why should there? They've been miserable cunts and we're glad they're dead. Something the 'liberal' viewer will not forgive ... \m/
fenriz218 3 years ago
A real subtle ending. Now you can understand why they were led away from any built up area for this hit.
exitwound09 3 years ago
I've been down that lane and it really is in the middle of nowhere. If the farmers had not been there the bodies would not have been discovered for days.
Terminator860 3 years ago
that looks so real lol
thats the best british film ever
MJH4SALT 3 years ago