Dr. Leonard Coldwell on vegan diet, supplements and more part 5

[C2whitechocolate]

What about flax seed oil?

[iheartadrianalima]

Don't our bodies make their own cholesterol?

[JoelT23]

@iheartadrianalima Yep you are right. Cholestral is used in the cell membrane to increase fluidity and help dissolve fat soluable molecules. This man is a con and talks utter bullshit.

[my12steptruth]

@iheartadrianalima -- Our bodies can only make about 30% of the cholesterol that our brains, which is 70% cholesterol needs. The whole "low cholesterol statin drug" industry is a billion dollar rip off. It causes Alzheimers which fuels ANOTHER market for something that didn't even exist at the turn of the century. Check out wwwDOTsecretstodefeatingdiseas­eDOTcom for an Australian website that explains why you NEED eggs. At the very least!

[GentleSavage1]

why didn't he mention vitamin B12?

This is much more important vor vegans than vit-D as supplement.

If you live in areas with enough sun, and go outdoors regularly, you don't need vit-D through eating, your skin builds it. In regions with cold winters and few sun, a few minutes exposure to adequate UV-B lamps each 1..2 days should help during the winter time.

I remember a study with vegan-eating nuns who at high age did not develop osteoporosis. That would be impossible without enough vit-D.

[RawFoodGuy99]

i have read humans cannot digest eggs ! i ate eggs almost everyday for years b4 i became mosly a veggie eater,now eggs make me sick to my stomach !

[boohoo145]

She is such a cutie

[Zippypo]

Paul why do you try and get everyone to agree with you about dairy?

I feel like garbage if I drink milk or eat cheese. Raw or pasteurize makes no difference. Have been back to vegan almost 4 years now and so far my blood tests have come back normal for all levels.

Cholesterol according to guidelines was a little high.

If you ever come to the Scranton PA area my neighbor has chickens and I can get you raw goat milk also.

Thanks for the video series loving it so far.

[ravendream33]

Yes, I feel just like you, terrible with any dairy......I bought someone's advice and tried many times to add organic grass fed raw goat milk to my diet, and each time I have to go through two weeks of blowing my nose, coughing up mucus and even get a fever while my body burns the stuff out of me!! When I tried raw egg yolks, it just makes me feel tired all the time, and nauseated. When I tried raw fish, each time I got constipation. Now I feel 20 years old and am 41.

[ravendream33]

I wake up, drink water, fresh grapefruit juice, herb tea, then I eat two fruits and a handful of whole raw cacao beans. around noon I eat a massive bowl of kale, dulse, raw cider vinegar, poppy or sesame seeds, cucumbers, avocado, and red pepper. Then I eat another one like that around 4pm and stop eating for the day. I eat two bunches of kale per day and two or three handfuls of dulse. I'm addicted to deep pigmented food. Anemic colored foods make anemic humans.

[jrozansk]

Doesn't hard boiling an egg (or cooking it it any way) alter the integrity of the protein rendering it less digestible and assimilable?

[JackNeedles]

Hard boiling eggs causes the cholesterol in them to become oxidized, which is what causes heart disease by causing cholesterol to stick to artieries (building arterial plaque), etc. Raw cholesterol, on the other hand, is very healthy & does not cause heart disease, arterial plaque, etc. It is very clean & is essential for many biochemical reactions. In fact, the human body doesn't have cholesterol receptors for unoxidized cholesterol, only oxidized cholesterol.

[Nakutao]

@JackNeedles ive read that if you dont eat dietary cholesterol that your liver produces more of it and the more dietary cholesterol you eat the less your liver makes it.. so either way it balances itself out.. our body is smart!! and if you eat enough saturated fat from coconut oil which is a clean fat you will maintain healthy blood levels of cholesterol.. so u dont have to eat eggs to have cholesterol

[Nakutao]

@Nakutao i believe it was Mercola who stated that

[ravendream33]

Yes! Nakutao, I can eat coconut meat perfectly, and do not feel horrible, but if I eat just the oil, separated from the coconut, by itself, I feel very bad. I must eat the whole coconut meat somehow to properly utilize it or something. Has anyone else noticed this with coconut oil? Like the whole coconut is meant to be eaten, right?

[Nakutao]

@ravendream33 thats perfectly fine to eat the whole coconut and i have too.. its delicious actually especially if u break chunks of the coconut meat off and add it to trail mix.. i like the water too its great to rehydrate the cells of ur body.. coconut water and greens is like a blood transfusion. coconut oil is healthy and some people just cant tolerate it which is ok.. btw coconut oil is very good to put on ur skin.. 1 reason why my skin is so nice lol :)

[ravendream33]

Yes, I cover my whole body in raw coconut oil after every shower, because we are really supposed to have that protective barrier on our skin. If we only bathed in pure river or ocean water w/o soap, we would not be constantly washing off our natural oils, but hey, I am not going to drive to a river. Ha! You are right, it is a healthy fat when raw and it's much more fresh when you just chew up a raw coconut and eat it than to eat the oil from a jar. My opinion. Of course I am very sensitive.

[JackNeedles]

Wrong. While I do agree that saturated fat from coconut oil is healthy, there is a big difference between saturated fat from coconut oil and animal food, etc. The saturated fat in coconut oil is a MCFA , not a LCFA. You also need cholesterol in order to produce enough Vitamin D. In fact, the body has a very high demand for cholesterol. The vegan diet lacks in many nutrients. The human body evolved off of a higher saturated fat diet. That's a simple fact and no vegan can survive in the wild.

[Nakutao]

@JackNeedles im not a vegan.. i take nordic naturals cod liver oil and im sure i eat bugs in my organic produce.. there really isnt such a thing as a vegan.. but there is such a thing as a predominately plant eater..a poor vegan diet with a lack of variety of food sure lacks in many nutrients.. but think of herbivore animals.. if the soil was so bad then the animals would first show deficiencies

[JackNeedles]

I do eat mostly plants too. About 80% of my daily calories come from plants and the rest comes from healthy raw animal foods, usually being blue ice raw femented cod liver oil and raw organic eggs. Every now and then I'll eat steak tartare using grass fed organic beef, which contains plenty of coenzyme Q10. Many herbivore animals also live in the wild and feed off of wild vegetaion which is usually higher in nutrients, not farmed produce, not to mention their bodies evolved to eat just plants.

[Nakutao]

@JackNeedles Jack what do you think of high vitamin butter oil? Also what do you think of Djehuty Ma'at-Ra? He has alot of convincing information on why animal foods are bad to eat.. sometimes things are so confusing

[JackNeedles]

I have heard and studied every viewpoint under the sun about why we should not consume animal products and they are all wrong. Most of them stem from factory farms or cooked/processed animal products, not organic, fresh, raw animal products. The law of nature shows us the answer. We evolved off of a hgher fat diet that included raw animal foods. If you went back in time just 12000 or more years ago, you would find people consuming raw animal products and plants. We did not have ovens back then.

[JackNeedles]

The blue ice x factor butter oil is raw and looks pretty good. I currently use the blue ice fermented cod liver oil that is mixed with the x factor raw butter oil.

[Nakutao]

@JackNeedles lol ok here is the final ? for you.. what about body odor? every time i get of animal foods my body odor goes away! read an excellent article about that by mike adams on natural news.. hes in excellent health by the way and has his bio stats on his page.. so if its true animal products make u stink.. is the vitamins they contain worth the stink?

[JackNeedles]

A raw vegan diet for cancer and really bad health problems in the short run is great and that's what I did and tell others to do. On the other hand, in the long-term,a vegan diet will form deficiencies. I know this. I started out as a raw vegan when I was 17 using every super food you can think of, but I did not get better in the long run. I got worse. Anyone moving from a SAD to a raw vegan diet will become very healthy because they're giving up junk, but in the long run they will get worse.

[JackNeedles]

So, to answer your questions, Mike Adams might find himself getting worse within the next five years or he might have already, but kept quiet about it because of his large vegan following. I don't get bad body odor at all. Perhaps the animal products are as high quality as you think, etc. For everything a vegan says against raw animal products, I can find 3 or 4 who will say the same about a vegan diet in the long run. I am one of them. 5 years on a raw vegan diet did not make my health better.

[ravendream33]

All humans are different because of genetic strengths and blood types. If a person doesn't metabolize raw dairy or eggs or fish,  then the byproducts are toxic, causing a terrible body odor and constipation. If another person is able to metabolize raw animal protein, then they will not feel bad or smell bad. We have different blood types and genetic weaknesses.

[ravendream33]

The answer to all debates is to do what works in our own bodies. Be intuitive and honest and experiment to find truth. My truth is vegan and it works for me 23 years except for time of experimenting with raw dairy and raw fish and egg yolks. That made me so sick.

[ravendream33]

I just eat a ton of kale, spinach, romaine, cilantro, parsley, dulse, cucumbers, poppy seeds, sesame seeds, coconuts, avocados, grapefruits, blueberries, cherries, and raw apple cider vinegar and yellow apples and coconuts and I feel like a teenager even though I am 41. My boyfriend is 31 and I just got ID'd for a glass of wine! Ha! The vegan diet has kept me at the same weight and with high energy for 23 years now.

[ravendream33]

Failing vegan? I eat deep green, purple and blue foods predominantly. I eat 2 bunches of either kale or romaine or spinach per day with 1 or 2 avocados, cucumbers, apples, celery, handfuls of dulse, lots of raw cider vinegar. Lots of blueberries and cherries. Live on the blues, greens, and purple foods and you will feel amazing. Vegans fail when they live on gourmet foods high in sugars and fats and starches Raw vegan diet is not good if you live on dates, agave, dehydrated foods and nuts

[JackNeedles]

Yes, we all have different blood types and even genetic weakpoints, but those are all small things that we all can take care of via diet, etc. Genes are much like light switches: they can be turned off and on. The fact is, we all digest foods the same & we all need protein & fats, just like we all require essential nutrients, etc. We all have different health issues that require us to follow certain diet programs, but the basic determining factors in overall human evolution remains the same.

[GentleSavage1]

I'm vegan for 7 years now and vegetarian 6 years before that.

My health is fine.

I supplement vitamin B-12 and use lamps that emit UV-B radiation during winter times.

That's pretty much the only thing that's necessary.

The problem is that I hardly hear anyone talk about B12 in raw vegan circles, or they write it off as unnecessary.

I bet you ddn't supplement either.

side note:

The wife of the "instincto" rawfood guru died of cancer, (she though) her "instinct" told her to eat lots of raw meat.

[JackNeedles]

Yes, I actually did supplement. I used sublingual B12 too. The problem is, you, like many vegans, are missing my point. Is it natural to eat Vitamin B12 supplements, let alone ones that were produced in a lab somewhere using UV-B radiation? No. In the wild, no ones eats Vitamin B12 in supplement form, nor do they take Vitamin D supplements, etc. Omega 3's are essential too. Plant omega 3's have a pretty low conversion rate compared to animal omega 3's. The fact is, we evolved off of raw meat.

[GentleSavage1]

sublingual, that doesnt work for all types.

But I don't know how you ate overall, problems could stem from all sorts of things.

Your assesment of "missing meat was it, and nothing else in the world I could've done would've made it better, period!" is quite sloppy.

Cyanocobalamin B12 in pills is the same as "in nature", produced by microorganisms that also produce it in, say, cows intestines (and ours, just at an unoptimal place)

[JackNeedles]

When you're young and healthy, a high quality sublingual should and usually does work. I ate a raw, organic vegan diet that was very healthy. I ate no processed foods whatsoever, including soy, grains, etc. In the short run, a raw vegan diet can be healthy and hlep the body clean itself, but in the long run it is unhealthy because it goes against human evolutionary biology. That's the simple fact, weather you ahte meat or not.

[JackNeedles]

And no, my assesment was not sloppy because I was talking about just my diet, nothing else. In fact, I would say that you making such an unfounded statement when you do not know me or what I ate is sloppy. If you're not getting a certain essential thing from your diet, then nothing else outside of your diet will make it better. That is how you know it's diet-related. Kinda obvious. Once again, Vitamin B12 supplements do not grow on trees, therefore it is not natural to take in that form. Period.

[GentleSavage1]

you did not understand what I was saying, so both your replies dont make a lot of sense.

And you invoke unimpressive "i was told in highschool" kind of authorities, whats that good for.

short answer for now, have to go sleep

[JackNeedles]

Sure I did. I mean, what you're saying only goes against basic human evolutionary biology and history and all. "HS authorities?" No, I just state pure scientific facts and many closed-minded vegans cannot and won't except it, so they ignorantly tell people that meat is unnatural when it's very natural. And taking B12 supplements is natural? Give me a break.

[GentleSavage1]

you clearly didnt, wouldnt have posted such nonreplies otherwise.

reread your posts, who's repeating himself here withouz bringing anything new?

Youre painting things simpler than they are, the way you react does not seem you the opposite of what you accuse me of, being close-minded.

My "sloppy" comment was to say that you dont exactly exhibit a scientific mindset & your conclusions are unwarranted, so please don't stress the "basic science!" so much, it doesnt sound good from your mouth.

[JackNeedles]

Anything new? I am responding to someone who is essentially saying the same thing, going against science. I am painting things simpler than they are? Hmm, let me think. if I am in the wild, it is natural to get Vitamin B12 from meat, not supplements. Sounds pretty simple to me alright. The truth is, nature, while having complex mechanisms, provides things in very simple ways. So scientific conclusions aren't warranted when it comes to convering with someone about nutrition? This is great.

[GentleSavage1]

I not sure where to start, since you totally mix up several lines of debate next to your oversimplification.

I guess this is not a really good platform for lengthier text explanations,

but I'm not here for making videos (just watching them)

I'll think about whether I could try to make a very condensed reply to explain all the problems I see here,

but I'm not sure you'd even appreciate the effort

[JackNeedles]

How am I mixed up? I started talking about how I eat meat and you then went on an anti-meat rant to me. Seems like you're the only one mixed up here. You just cannot explain the fact that I am right about human evolutionary biochemistry. Okay, so you're a vegan and don't want to eat animals for political reasons or whatever. That's fine. But don't make unfounded claims and tell me that eating meat is bad for you or is unnatural when we evolved off of it. That just goes against science.

[GentleSavage1]

*sigh*

Certainly too simple.

I'll try to make a video when I find enough time, it may take a while, since I'd like to make it better structured than how you throw in things here, haha.

Side note, As much as u can accuse me of being a starter who believe this or that & not informed much,

I can accuse u of arguing 2 be someone who erred once, saw he was wrong, now thinks he has found "THE truth!" & can't be (partially) wrong again...

Such accusations are not really useful for a debate, though.

[JackNeedles]

When did I say I found the truth? I am learning so much new stuff about herbs right now, etc. But I do know that a healthy vegan diet, in the long run, did not work best for me. My diet still consists of mostly plant food, I just add in some raw animal products here and there. That's what made me feel much better. I don't think I have found the holy grail of nutrition. Some things are just obvious to me, like the laws of nature, which clearly shows us that we evolved off of raw animal products.

[GentleSavage1]

"The fact is, we evolved off of raw meat. "

Stories about huntergatherers dont make it so.

But actually *that* is besides the point: the fact that youll die without B12 can make meat as unhealthy as it wants otherwise, youll have to eat it anyways.

in other words, meat does not heave to be haalthy overall just because you can use certain components of it.

Today, one can use supplements to circumvent its disadvantages.

[JackNeedles]

"Stories about hunters & gatherers don't make it so?" You seriously cannot be that ignorant, can you? Human evolutionary biology has been studied and fact-checked immensely and it is a fact that we evolved off of raw meat. Humans have not been cooking with fire long enough to fully evolve & adapt to cooked foods, especially cooked meat. And no, it's not "besides the point" because you cannot say something is so unnatural & bad for you when humans evolved off of it. That's what makes meat ideal.

[GentleSavage1]

short answer for now since I must go sleep.

you didnt really understand what I was saying and your reply doesnt make a lot of sense in that light. Plus you invoke unimpressive "i was told that in highscool" kind of authorities... whats that good for heh.

Well, more later.

[JackNeedles]

Now it sounds like you're just repeating yourself....

[ravendream33]

You are right, raw vegan is NOT the answer to all problems. Raw vegan is too broad. Raw vegan allows too much dehydrated food, nuts, and sugary agave and dates and concentrated nonsense. Raw vegans who chow on kale and dulse and romaine lettuce salads with some seasonal fruits ......how many of them are around you? I work with 20 to 35 year olds and they are shocked when I tell them I am 41. I live on green leaves, sea weed, avocado and seasonal fruits and NO DEHYDRATED FOODS/GOURMET CRAP.

[JackNeedles]

In other words, although Dr. Coldwell is right on not eating a 100% raw vegan diet, he is dead wrong on hard boiling eggs. I agree with him on adding in organic eggs, but make sure they are raw because hard boiling eggs creates toxic compounds and causes the choelsterol to become oxidized, which is one major cause of heart problems today, along with trans fats and other things. Not to mention, raw egg yolks can taste great in certain smoothies.

[ravendream33]

Yeah, I cannot believe he suggested cooking the eggs hard boiled??? I mean that heat destoys the amino acids. They are very sensitive to heat. I think if he is worried about Salmonella, they the person could just pop a clove of garlic in their mouth and eat it with the egg, and that garlic kills it all............or you could spray some ionic silver into the raw egg before it is eaten......just seems better than cooking.

[JackNeedles]

Yeah, a bit weird. if you buy fresh organic eggs, the raw egg yolk should actually taste very good.

[meganmozart]

This interview has been very amazing to watch.

I love eggs. They taste so good. I have been on a high raw diet for the past 35 days and every now and I'll just scramble up four or five eggs. They taste so good and I love them.

[TheHealthJunkie]

Shazzie admits in her article about raw vegan children that she feeds her daughter eggs, as well as supplements, because of the rampant deficiency she observed in raw vegan kids. It's quite an eye-opener. You can read it on her website. Just google: "Shazzie's article on raw vegan children"

[Nakutao]

The Asininity of EGG Consumption

by Djehuty Ma'at-Ra .. google it! changed my mind about eating eggs.. ive been raw vegan for 5 days now and look and feel better than ever ! im doing the 30 day thing

[ravendream33]

Wow!. I just read that whole article, and I thank you for mentioning it. Al though I have always had an open mind, I have always despised the taste of eggs. I always feel worse after I eat them raw or cooked, even as a child. I have not eaten eggs for the last 10 years. I did do an experiment for a year, 11 years ago, during which time I ate raw egg yolks daily. I started feeling much less healthy, so i quit eating them, and then immediately felt better. I did this off and on for a year.

[Nakutao]

@ravendream33 your welcome :) subscribe to my channel cause i love sharing my views on all of this stuff and im out to be as healthy as possible and everyone else! glad to be of service

[ravendream33]

I will check out and sub to your channel Nakutao. I feel horrible physically anytime I eat raw or cooked ainimal products. I tried to eat raw fish off and on for a year and also had tremendous trouble. As a child I suffered migraines from all milk, including some raw milk we got from a farm. I think my type A blood constitution doesn't process animal products well.. My boyfriend w type B eats raw egg + fish and feels great, My mom is type O and has a stomach of Iron. We are all different!

[Necrowitch]

eat the whole thing??? lol.. I'm not eating egg shells... =P

[canadianwargod]

he says vegans need calcium but doesn't recommend milk. what are his main sources of calcium?

[Xkin2thekingX]

another great post--beautiful baby!

[thesetwofeet]

I drink very little milk and have severe joint problems but I've never eaten greens until the last year or so and that improved my joints. I've eaten a highly acidic diet all all my life and when I changed my diet to alkaline foods I saw dramatic results in my skin, fingernails, hair, joint pains, whites of my eyes and on and on in only one month.

I got to feeling so great I returned to my old bad eating habits and still battle with that though. My health went downhill again eating acidic.

[veganprincess01]

Thank you for this Paul!

[thesetwofeet]

I very much enjoyed this series.

I personally would not link osteoporosis to cow's milk though. The U.S. also most likley eats the most refined sugars and has the most acidic diet (sugar being acidic as well as sodas, fast food, smoking, alcohol, coffee, etc.) which I personally believe plays a strong role in bone and joint issues, as well as organ and tissue problems. The more acidic we eat the less minerals our body can utilize. The U.S. eats very little greens which I think is key.

[thesetwofeet]

I should clarify that I am not saying my joint problems are osteoporosis. I don't know what causes my joint pain. I would think, could be wrong, that the causes of joint pains, arthritis, osteoporosis, etc. are closely linked. I'm not saying cow's milk can't contribute, but I'm saying that I think the cause is more likley acidosis and lack of minerals found in greens and similar vegetables and too many starches, sugars and meats which are acidic forming.