Does this have an electric start, I thought you had to turn a handcrank to get a flywheel spinning and then you engaged a gear to turn the engine over once or twice while the hand crank guy crossed his bloody fingers it cranked... the first time
The Bosch inertial starters could be turned by hand in the field or electrically with an external power source. Notice the man disconnecting the power cable/batteries from the power port at 0:38 in this video.
Props are closely matched with engine output and performance and it was a matter of finding the correct combination when crunching the numbers. The Allies made the props bigger or added more blades, while the Germans made the prop blades wider to harness the power. Different propellers performed better at various altitudes, more blades or wider blades performing better at high altitude, while fewer or thin props worked at sea level without excess drag on the airplane or engine.
Thanx for uploading this. Could not find the original sound of DB 605 on the ground. But indeed i think this plane was one of a production in license from spain: so could this really be a 605? But i wanted to ask: Is Karlsruhe the actual homebase of the "rote 7"?
It originally flew as a post-war Spanish Buchon but was converted to G4 standard with a DB605 engine. Rote 7 is now owned by the Willy Messerschmitt Museum in Manching, Germany.
About the ``Spiralen-snauzen´´ i have read in many book´s it was meant to confuse enemy gunners =) I also belive it was pretty common on the ``Reichvertiedigung´´ fighters late in the war.
...safety may be one other reason, but, I did read somewhere that by 1944, since Germany was being heavily bombed and outnumbered that the Luftwaffe, with every tricks they pulled out of their hats, experienced the "nose cone confusion" on both the 109s and the FW-190s.
Do you have a source for that? I thought that pattern was applied to reduce accidents on the field (people walking in the prop). I also have the impression that there were not many 109s with this pattern.
yes, i think so. duo to the speed of the propeller, you are not able to recognize how fast it is moving (sometimes it seems to rotate very slowly). That is what the painting is for..... I do not think that a paintings like this would disorient any kind of enemy in an air combat :)
@grumpypant It was both for identification and ground safety. Allies usually used bright colored blade tips instead. If you look at most modern air liner jets, they have the spiraled spinner too.
wrong. there are many myths about that. but to correspond on some veterans i spoke with these patterns where used as said by Roger, to show wether the engine was runing or not.
during alarm or mass starts there where mostly so many planes starting that you could easily walk into a prop because you simply missed that the engine was running. allied planes had yellow or otherwise painted propheads because of this reason.
I've seen the movie "The Battle of Britian" many times and don't recall noticing any "Gustav" in it; all the "Me-109s" used in the movie are of the Buochon models!!
This "G-4" here doesn't have the machine gun bulges either; so, it might be a Ha-1112.
You cannot see a 109 G, because it was not developed till then. But after all I have not seen just a single E (most common type in BoB). Only a 109 D and other bad reconstructions, although Adolf Galland himself gave hints to the film directors. The unreal german aircrafts are one of the badest things in this great movie.
Boozyscientist is right. It is a Ha-1112 which was restored to G-4 specs with original parts.
I like discussions and getting to the core of things, but I also appreciate it when it is being done without getting rude. That remark with Wikipedia is a slap in the face of thousands of well-meaning contributors.
According to non-Wikipedia sources, this plane was an Ha-1112 M-1L #139 build in 1950. After serving with the Spanish Air Force until 1965, it was removed from service and was later purchased and used for the movie "Battle of Britain" flying as Yellow 11 and Red 14. After filming, it was damaged in a crash, repaired and severely damaged again in 1986. Rebuilding of the wreckage to Me109 G-4 standard began in 1997.
god I love that pew sound/smoke part when an engine turns on
fidan2fast 2 months ago
The engine sounds rough compared to a RR Merlin.
NearAbbeyRoad 5 months ago
magnifique engine song , it is a music
evenhazert 6 months ago
Does this have an electric start, I thought you had to turn a handcrank to get a flywheel spinning and then you engaged a gear to turn the engine over once or twice while the hand crank guy crossed his bloody fingers it cranked... the first time
cobrachoppergirl 9 months ago
@cobrachoppergirl
The Bosch inertial starters could be turned by hand in the field or electrically with an external power source. Notice the man disconnecting the power cable/batteries from the power port at 0:38 in this video.
FiveCentsPlease 9 months ago
Sounds like a dumper truck ! Listen to those sweet V12 merlins and weep
saintellins 1 year ago
how come the german aircraft manufacturers of ww2 didnt go for 4 and 5 bladed props like the allied? must have been an improvement. low rescources?
agentolshki 1 year ago
@agentolshki
Props are closely matched with engine output and performance and it was a matter of finding the correct combination when crunching the numbers. The Allies made the props bigger or added more blades, while the Germans made the prop blades wider to harness the power. Different propellers performed better at various altitudes, more blades or wider blades performing better at high altitude, while fewer or thin props worked at sea level without excess drag on the airplane or engine.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
Thanx for uploading this. Could not find the original sound of DB 605 on the ground. But indeed i think this plane was one of a production in license from spain: so could this really be a 605? But i wanted to ask: Is Karlsruhe the actual homebase of the "rote 7"?
SeeleDesTigers 1 year ago
@SeeleDesTigers
It originally flew as a post-war Spanish Buchon but was converted to G4 standard with a DB605 engine. Rote 7 is now owned by the Willy Messerschmitt Museum in Manching, Germany.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
About the ``Spiralen-snauzen´´ i have read in many book´s it was meant to confuse enemy gunners =) I also belive it was pretty common on the ``Reichvertiedigung´´ fighters late in the war.
Sildesnude 1 year ago
...safety may be one other reason, but, I did read somewhere that by 1944, since Germany was being heavily bombed and outnumbered that the Luftwaffe, with every tricks they pulled out of their hats, experienced the "nose cone confusion" on both the 109s and the FW-190s.
grumpypant 1 year ago
...still a pretty bird, isn't she?!!!
grumpypant 1 year ago
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The purpose of the barber-shop pattern on the spinner was to disorient the enemy aicraft whether they were fighters are bombers!
grumpypant 1 year ago
Do you have a source for that? I thought that pattern was applied to reduce accidents on the field (people walking in the prop). I also have the impression that there were not many 109s with this pattern.
RogerWilco66 1 year ago 6
@RogerWilco66
yes, i think so. duo to the speed of the propeller, you are not able to recognize how fast it is moving (sometimes it seems to rotate very slowly). That is what the painting is for..... I do not think that a paintings like this would disorient any kind of enemy in an air combat :)
SeeleDesTigers 1 year ago
@RogerWilco66 yah, its for field people so the yknow the prop is turning - thats what I read - but I will have to look it up now. . .lol.
existentialvoid 1 year ago
@RogerWilco66 this is what i found book called "The Fighting Me109"
"the white spiral on the red spinner gave a slow jumping effect to an enemy gunner when approached head on, thus throwing him of his aim"
keijokuijo 10 months ago
@grumpypant It was both for identification and ground safety. Allies usually used bright colored blade tips instead. If you look at most modern air liner jets, they have the spiraled spinner too.
ekuthenewbie 1 year ago
@grumpypant
wrong. there are many myths about that. but to correspond on some veterans i spoke with these patterns where used as said by Roger, to show wether the engine was runing or not.
during alarm or mass starts there where mostly so many planes starting that you could easily walk into a prop because you simply missed that the engine was running. allied planes had yellow or otherwise painted propheads because of this reason.
gus23a 1 year ago
I've seen the movie "The Battle of Britian" many times and don't recall noticing any "Gustav" in it; all the "Me-109s" used in the movie are of the Buochon models!!
This "G-4" here doesn't have the machine gun bulges either; so, it might be a Ha-1112.
grumpypant 1 year ago
It flew as a Buchon in the movie, and flew afterward until suffering a couple of crashes. Work began to convert it to a G4 in 1997.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
@grumpypant
You cannot see a 109 G, because it was not developed till then. But after all I have not seen just a single E (most common type in BoB). Only a 109 D and other bad reconstructions, although Adolf Galland himself gave hints to the film directors. The unreal german aircrafts are one of the badest things in this great movie.
SeeleDesTigers 1 year ago
Wikipedia are jack asses they are a much of liers and jerks they dont know shit about bf-109s
topper454 2 years ago
Topper454, excuse me, Sir.
Boozyscientist is right. It is a Ha-1112 which was restored to G-4 specs with original parts.
I like discussions and getting to the core of things, but I also appreciate it when it is being done without getting rude. That remark with Wikipedia is a slap in the face of thousands of well-meaning contributors.
RogerWilco66 2 years ago 4
According to non-Wikipedia sources, this plane was an Ha-1112 M-1L #139 build in 1950. After serving with the Spanish Air Force until 1965, it was removed from service and was later purchased and used for the movie "Battle of Britain" flying as Yellow 11 and Red 14. After filming, it was damaged in a crash, repaired and severely damaged again in 1986. Rebuilding of the wreckage to Me109 G-4 standard began in 1997.
FiveCentsPlease 2 years ago
@topper454 Wikipedia is written by the general public. I am sure many of them know more about the Bf109 than you. Nothing is 'written by wikipedia'.
Xiolablu3 1 year ago
you all are wrong about what type that
BF-109 is
it is an BF-109F-4 i know lot about BF-109s
topper454 2 years ago
@topper454
According to Wikipedia, it is a HA1112 re-engined with a DB605 making it an accurate BF-109G replica.
Boozyscientist 2 years ago
All that plane needs now is me in the cockpit!!!
groovy67 2 years ago
When ans where did you take this video? Thanks.
ktc8308 2 years ago
That was on June 11, 2005, at the former Canadian Airbase in Soellingen / Gemany.
RogerWilco66 2 years ago
i need new underwear
Fernosej1 2 years ago 3
0:45 solche deppen können doch auch hinten herum also ne
sowas kann ich nicht leiden wenn einer durch bild läuft !
Radiognom62 2 years ago 3
that prop spinner is epic!
nicklking 2 years ago
Fantastic sound !
mxkameraman 2 years ago
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Music to my ears
Sephy7777 2 years ago
Herrlich der Flieger :-)
Das die Leute immer durchs Bild trampeln müssen...
bobatosenior 2 years ago 8
The sound is amazing. She is a legend
Kohlnator 2 years ago 11