Runway Incursion Chicago O'Hare Jul 23rd

[oracle2world]

I think the pilot was keeping an eye out for the incursion, and wasn't too surprised when it happened.

[d0rkiishchris]

that was a runway incursion. The departing aircraft probably saw what was happening, but it was probably too late. probably shoved the engines to maximum (because usually theres an N1 limit for economical takeoffs), and immediately started rotate. Probably getting close to a take strike.

[chatsalot94]

he was supposed to stop at the runway crossing, verify right and left clear, then continue on. blind pilots, i'm amblyopic but i m better

[XxXDELTAxFOXTROTXxX]

Jesus, that was a near miss.

[billandersonful]

@XxXDELTAxFOXTROTXxX No, that was a near hit. If you nearly miss something then you hit it, right?

[phillyslasher]

Poor controller shat his pants and the pilot as cool as can be: "don't worry we got it". lol. Good god. Bless those controllers, somebody's got to do that job.

By the way, was that a failed hold short landing for the other plane?

[craeyon]

I love how calmly the pilot responded and said don't worry we got it...

[germanman95]

he was prolly a former air force pilot who would be calm if the plane had split in half. Being calm in any situation is why the govt likes former air force pilots

[stevenstrent]

he was landing what if he couldnt stop in time

[shinchan34567890]

almost collide oo

[polarbear70]

The Atlas air had been cleared to land on runway 14R. Whilst still on runway 14R the United Airlines B737 was given clearance to take-off on Runway 27L. The controller gave clearance before the B747 had left the runway and he had presumed it would exit before the intersection of the two runways.

[acedit101]

Basically what I was getting at - was Atlas Air given a hold short of 27L and they busted their instruction?

[planesrock]

It takes a lot of tools to stop a plane, and the plane, without doing damage, couldn't stop before it hit the intersection. He probably didn't see the departing 737.

[mambo4269]

You are right. If you have to cross active runways ATC will never give you clearance to cross if you are nowhere near that runway. I.o.w. they will tell you how to taxi and instruct you to hold short.

And indeed, if they forgot........you simply ask for confirmation. Better safe than sorry.

Once you are there they will give you the clearance to cross. The pilot of the 747 here was at fault, he crossed without clearance.

[Stavros9722]

controller should have told atlas air to hold position and atlas air should have looked for traffic on the active runway.

[grx007]

it's called a runway incursion BECAUSE atc TOLD him to hold short

[oktal3700]

GTI6972 (the Atlas) is at 9 miles when he is cleared to land on 14R and told "traffic will depart ahead of your arrival", referring to UAL938, who then takes off on 27L. UAL1015 is then told to position and hold on 27L and "traffic lands first, crossing runway". UAL1015 asks for 2 minutes delay for pre-flight checks. After reporting ready, he is cleared for takeoff before GTI6972 has crossed.

It's in the video "Runway Incursions and the human factor part 2/3" at 6:00

[polarbear70]

both!

[horselver1981]

So whose fault was it the controller or the pilot...it doesn't say?? Did the pilot cross without permission or did the controller goof?

[r1oot]

the plane wouldnt rotate if it was a boeing 747. Thank God it wasnt one other wise it would of been another Tenerife incident

[polarbear70]

i certainly hope not! There may be runway incursions more often than there should but not like this one

[theA320pilot]

this happen everyday!!!

[aeromar2780]

What do u mean this happens every day! So not true. The last holding point before a taxiway/runway is always to be stoped at. It is a Type A holding point. If they didnt told u to cross it, u ask! Or u STOP! Even in big places like KORD that holding point lights red for u not to cross it till cleared.

[kimiles1]

There is no FAA requirement to hold short without specifically being instructed to by Ground. This is the biggest contributor to runway incursion incidents in the US. In Canada, unless cleared to cross, you are required to hold short no matter what. The FAA rule is a big source of debate and really doesn't make any logical sense.

[CommanderDenton]

On the contrary. Stopping is required ALWAYS except when cleared by ATC. And for this kind of reason exactly.

[jfsa380]

@kimiles1 now where do you think the Canadians came up with that idea?

[homer090]

almost another tenerife!!

Tenerife incident resulted in the highest ever amount of death in a plane crash due to a runway incursion between 2 fully laden 747's when a KLM proceed with take off without clearence with another 747 still on the runway!!

[xcgames]

that pilot can taxi a 747 into an active runway without watching for traffic, you wonder what he'd do in his own car

[AJIX]

damn they know how to keep there cool thats crazy fucking stupid other plane and watch towers fault miss communcation

[nimrob]

my god!!!!

[dany4kin]

"Don't worry we got him" Cool as you like.... pilots gotta love em....

[airodyssey]

I guess the next-to-last transmission was the panicked crew of the Atlas Air 747, and the last "Don't worry, we got him" is the United 737... Creepy!