whoever ripped whom off - the main thing is how they play and react to the songs FOR A RADIO. and here O&A with Ants comments totally own Stern in one gate! there is nothing funny and entertaining Howard could offer to these songs. he used songs in this bit to make bit funny, while O&A made fun out of funny songs which made it double fun and entertaining for a radio.
@boza112 so what makes it funny? they fake laugh over the song parodies like bob & tom? they pretend it was soooooooooo controversial and outrageous that they're totally gonna get in trouble from management? at least stern admits they're just boring racist songs that come up every so often.
i didnt hear him say it came from a listener, "they had a song parody man went in and check on racist songs anti black songs on the internet.." didnt hear anything about a listener, but he did butcher the name of the song from O&A repeatedly. not saying he hoohooed them, but your description is anything but apt, sir, i suggest you make the appropriate changes forth with post haste and such
@ZaSchafer he said "DAN THE SONG PARODY MAN went in and check on racist songs, anti black songs on the INTERNET"
dan the song parody man is a listener of the show. it's like when ant giggles about racist things steve from bay shore says. and did you miss the significance of him saying the songs were from the INTERNET? howard never claimed to have made the song, or that it was made for his show. he distinctly said they came from the internet, meaning probably napster or whatever.
@nogoodbastid o and a never said he claimed it to be his original and neither did i, they said he played their old material. listening again i can hear dan instead of they had, but did you miss the significance of me quoting the rest correctly "songs on the internet.."" in all honesty how would stern have react if they played his old bits that were on the web, gag order comes to mind
@ZaSchafer they obviously wanted their audience to think stern "stole" it that's why they talked about it for 8 minutes, and he only played 20 seconds of the song before moving on to the next one. they referred to him as "lazy" for not obtaining a better copy to cover his tracks, suggesting he steals from them all the time and at this point is just playing pieces of their show on his show intentionally. cause howard stern needs some of those o&a ratings, right?
@ZaSchafer they also talked about what great radio it was, and how you could never do that on terrestrial radio today. this was after howard had played the exact same song on his show on terrestrial radio and it got no response. ant still brings up "the house next door to me was sold..." song constantly, which he definitely first heard on the stern show back when he listened every day. i'm not saying that's theft in any way, but come on. howard's been doing the racist songs thing since the 80's.
@nogoodbastid when they talk about not being able to do it on terrestrial, its not because of FCC regs but pussy station owners. howey did and does get away with more than they ever will/have, because the bosses back him, (before you could argue rating but satellite doesn't know, now its because sirus is built around him and they dont have a choice.) media sucks today because of that pussy mentality but stern doesnt care he got paid and only ever cared about his free speech
@ZaSchafer sirius always knows how many listeners a show has because advertisers need to know those numbers. in the 2 ratings books released on all of satellite radio howard's 2 stations were the #1 and #2. howard 100 had over 5 times as many listeners as the virus. ratings aren't really relevant to this particular argument about stealing bits, but o&a fans try to argue they are somewhere near howard's level and it's untrue. that's taste completely aside. you can still say their show is funnier.
@nogoodbastid im not arguing that they are on his level with viewers, never did, and i ment satellite doesnt care. there is no way that song would air on am/fm today. ive never heard O&A say they had howard's numbers, ive only heard them correct and put in to context the figures he edits. funny is subjective, what is not however is my original point that there is now way in hell howard would not have let it go if they play material played on his show,
@ZaSchafer i'm just pointing out that it's ridiculous of them to claim that he stole their song, and that he steals all the time from other dj's. especially since they grew up listening to him and obviously took a lot of their show directly from his. they have a wackpack with retards and stutterers. they have a wrap-up show hosted by their producer. they say things like "douche-chills" that is a term invented on the stern show. anthony was on the goddamn show for a contest!
@evh4450 Hoo Hoo Robin... You like Bah Bah Booey, and Rolbin and Slave Fred....Aritie killed himself. Great show. Go F' yourself. Lil' Jimmy N. is funnier than your entire show. You loser.
Cut the crap with the exuses Howard is the King of radio and the O and A quote pest always have to bring up Howard Stern just deal with the facts they are both working for the same company now and Howard is still the man and is still making more money and has more listeners and will untill he retires!
Cut the crap with the exuses Howard is the King of radio and the O and A quote pest always have to bring up Howard Stern just deal with the facts they are both work for the same company now and Howard is still the man and is still making more money and has more listeners and will untill he retires!
Sooooooo...at 2:06...? What is that bell sound? And at 2:09, whose laugh is that? The answers are: Anthony's offensive bell sound and Anthony's laugh you absolute moron. Your king played A CLIP FROM OPIE AND ANTHONY'S SHOW ON HIS OWN SHOW. That is one of the many reason why people claim that Howard rips people off. You picked the wrong incident to rip on the O&A show and its fans. If you can somehow defend the FACT that Howard played a clip from O&A's show, then good for you. Dumb cunt.
@CGNU how dense can you be? nobody is denying the fact that the song is obviously from the o&a show, sherlock. the fact that howard opened acknowledges at the beginning of the clip that they were sent in by a listener who got them off the internet is the point. if you searched "racist song" on napster a bunch of songs would pop up, the "candy-man" one was one of them. and let's get real, they were all either labeled "david allan coe" or "weird al." howard didn't know where it came from.
@nyyNYR2094 i think this past year has been the worst. the show is just kinda coasting since artie has been gone and since they still technically are considering him part of the show, no one has replaced him. i think the return of artie to talk about everything is gonna be great radio, tho.
actually the main example hoo hoo howie said he invented WOW first. Then theres the flashing on the today show where the chic had a wow sticker showing and right after it happened howard said on his show lets do a flashing on the today show.
Funny how the king did all his radio battles on air (mancow, imus, bubba) but not when it came to o&A. He used backstage politics and whined like a b*tch to Mel Karmazin to make sure they never mentioned him on air. Some great free speech promotor he is
@aq2111 opie and anthony were afternoon guys who worked for the same company. they were attacking him to try to get the attention of a radio war with him and he made sure that didn't work for them. the other shows you mentioned he went to war with were shows he was competing for ratings with.
@nogoodbastid i've never heard of the flashing thing, so i dunno about that. but radio stations have been rewarding people for putting their bumper stickers on the cars since the bumper sticker was invented. whoever decided to shockjock it up by adding tits to the bumper sticker promotion didn't exactly have to be a genius, and i doubt it made for great radio.
@nogoodbastid whn did thy attack him? Stern fans claim that they did a bit called minority jepordy in boston nd they ripped tht off howard. Whn they came to ny stern made it clear he didnt want to have anythin to do wit them. Listen to stern on hannity nd he admits its not bout free speech, its about his free speech. So all the years he complaind about bein censored nd thn he does it, doesnt tht make him a hyppocrite? O&A neva got mvd to krock bc of stern. Evn w/o howie they were very successful
@aq2111 i dunno exactly all the shit they said about him. but apparently they made jokes about his daughter od'ing and him crying at the hospital and other shit like that. they weren't even on at the same time, if howard attacked them on his show, he would just be giving them listeners who would want to listen to their show later and hear their response. when he went head to head with another show, he would talk all kinds of shit about them because people weren't gonna flip to the other guy.
@nogoodbastid First of all CGNU is rite in tht u can hear O&A laughin nd Anthony ringing his inappropriate bell @2:06 so right ther stern playd a clip frm DA O&A SHOW. Did he deliberatly take it, maybe or maybe not. I neva heard of o&A trashin his daughter, I knw laughd whn he seperated frm his wife b/c howie cried on air.
The bigga issue is tht stern has for years claimd to be a censored but hes a hypocrite. Its one thing to not be involvd but he held ther careers down, how can u respect him?
@aq2111 he held their careers down by stopping them from talking about him? why couldn't they do a good show without making it about howard stern? how sad is that?
the fact that this was obviously a time-killing throw-away bit of playing a few songs a listener sent in, and on the o&a show they talked this song up as an amazing great contest song they got in big trouble for is kinda telling, don't you think? they hooted thru the song like it was brilliant, and howard moved on to something else.
@nogoodbastid Stern got a gag order put on afta O&A blew the announcement of STP playin a concert. So he goes on air like a lil b*tch and offers an ultimadum of either they shut up or he quits. Stern also stopped guest frm going on O&A by threatening them tht they wouldnt be on his show. When O&A were getting syndicated in different markets he tried to make sure they didn't get on any of the stations he's on. O&A always said they had respect for stern, he's the one tht startd it bc hes insecure
@aq2111 and if he was really such a dick who held them back, why are they still so cordial with him? howard says hello to them when he sees them, and they admit that. their fans are the ones who hold this insane grudge.
@Cap420 I know the exact diff douche. The diff was he went right after all those guys whereas with O&A he cried like a little b*tch to management behind the scenes to have them shut up and did everything he could to hold them down like threaten guests that they wouldn't be on his show if they went on theirs.
@aq2111 no the difference is that he was competing with the other shows. they were on at the same time. opie and anthony wanted howard to talk about him to get the publicity. him going after them on the air would be the biggest advertisement for their show they ever had because they weren't on at the same time as him. it's like how small-time rappers make a diss song towards a more successful rapper in hopes the bigger name rapper will diss them back.
@nogoodbastid the bottom line is tht stern has for years wantd free speech but go an listen to him on Sean Hannity. He says hes not a supporter of free speech, but a supporter of HIS free speech. Hes a total hyppocrite. & as far as them needing to make fun of stern to get famous, even wit tht gag order thy were syndicated thru the country in major markets. O&A were small time? Yea being #1 in all male demos in NY is really small time. Stern fans cant admit tht hes a lil whiny baby, a male diva
@nogoodbastid well they never had a shot at mornings years ago b/c of hoo hoo howie. And when they were on mornings they were competing against themselves on xm and the economy kind of crashed. I'm sure stern and his fans seem to forget that. You keep moving on from the fact that stern is a insecure hyppocrite who instead of fighting his battles, whined like a baby to management, wah wah wah.
@nogoodbastid well seeing as how i had to educate you on everything else, yes thy were competing against thmselvs, so any fan tht had xm didnt listen on radio. And yea tht whole economy recession thing had SOME EFFECT! All the stations thy were on switched from talk/rock to top 40 b/c it's cheaper. Thy were still high in target demos whn thy left free radio but the companys changed formats b/c it's cheaper for the entire station. But again stern is a b*tch & u cnt admit it, Hoo Hoo Robin!!!
@aq2111 "But again stern is a b*tch & u cnt admit it, Hoo Hoo Robin!!!" opie and anthony failed, you're the one who can't admit it. howard left at #1, they were given all the stations he had accumulated over the years and lost them all. i can see you saying that you like their show better, but you're making excuses for why they failed where howard undeniably succeeded. didn't they also claim that howard couldn't save sirius because they were too far behind xm? how did that turn out?
@nogoodbastid yea they were given all the stations but if stern had the same thing happen would you listen to him on satellite or regular radio when you already have satellite einstein? O&A were still #1 in male demos when the stations decided to change format! It wasn't like they replaced O&A w/ another type of talk show, the stations changed format b/c, even stern couldnt have saved them. All those stations are top 40's now not rock, you can't blame that on one show.
@aq2111 when stern did mornings on k-rock it brought the average rating of the entire station up enough that they could pretty much be whatever format they wanted. advertisers were given deals in which they had to advertise during other times of the day in order to get advertising during the stern show.
@nogoodbastid comparing free radio in the 80's to a few years ago is completely different. There were things done then that couldnt now. If stern was so confident he could repeat wht he did back then he would have went back to fm but he's smart enuff to knw it wouldnt happen. Sirius and XM merged, at the time it happened xm was da bigger company. the only reason the govt allowed the merger even thou it violated anti trust laws nd creatd a monopoly was bc both companys wud hav wnt outta busines
@aq2111 the 80's? he was number 1 until he left fm at the end of 2005. opie and anthony failed just a couple of years later. he was at #1, meaning he literally beat every other station. they weren't even in the top 20.
@nogoodbastid lets say howard does the same deal they did where he's on both regular radio and satellite. Would you be listening to him on fm where he's subject to fcc regulations & cnt curse or on satelitte where he's uncensored? Krock is now a pop station, do you really think that stern's four hours a day would hav savd tht station? Ask any wall street analyst and they'll tell you that stern wasn't close to bein worth wht sirius paid him in his 1st contract, stock price thn $6.50, now $1.50
@aq2111 in either ratings book that arbitron released for satellite radio, o&a didn't have nearly enough xm listeners to have swayed the ratings that much on fm considering the xm audience is spread out nationwide and they were dropped from dozens of markets on fm.
@nogoodbastid & stern has done so great w/ sirius, is tht why it had to merge with XM?? Had tht mergr not happen neitha company would be around so tht 500 million big nose was paid didnt bring up the stock price or anythin. Stern always says tht letterman is ten times betta thn leno even thou jay has betta ratings, he said lenos fans must be retarded. They must be just like his fans then. If O&A were such failure y r they still on satellite? y would they have been syndicated in afternoon drive?
@aq2111 when stern signed to sirius they had a small fraction of the subsribers that xm had. eventually they got big enough to merge, and all the redundant people from xm were let go. sirius took over xm.
whoever ripped whom off - the main thing is how they play and react to the songs FOR A RADIO. and here O&A with Ants comments totally own Stern in one gate! there is nothing funny and entertaining Howard could offer to these songs. he used songs in this bit to make bit funny, while O&A made fun out of funny songs which made it double fun and entertaining for a radio.
boza112 8 months ago
@boza112 so what makes it funny? they fake laugh over the song parodies like bob & tom? they pretend it was soooooooooo controversial and outrageous that they're totally gonna get in trouble from management? at least stern admits they're just boring racist songs that come up every so often.
nogoodbastid 8 months ago
i didnt hear him say it came from a listener, "they had a song parody man went in and check on racist songs anti black songs on the internet.." didnt hear anything about a listener, but he did butcher the name of the song from O&A repeatedly. not saying he hoohooed them, but your description is anything but apt, sir, i suggest you make the appropriate changes forth with post haste and such
ZaSchafer 11 months ago
@ZaSchafer he said "DAN THE SONG PARODY MAN went in and check on racist songs, anti black songs on the INTERNET"
dan the song parody man is a listener of the show. it's like when ant giggles about racist things steve from bay shore says. and did you miss the significance of him saying the songs were from the INTERNET? howard never claimed to have made the song, or that it was made for his show. he distinctly said they came from the internet, meaning probably napster or whatever.
nogoodbastid 11 months ago
@nogoodbastid o and a never said he claimed it to be his original and neither did i, they said he played their old material. listening again i can hear dan instead of they had, but did you miss the significance of me quoting the rest correctly "songs on the internet.."" in all honesty how would stern have react if they played his old bits that were on the web, gag order comes to mind
ZaSchafer 11 months ago
@ZaSchafer they obviously wanted their audience to think stern "stole" it that's why they talked about it for 8 minutes, and he only played 20 seconds of the song before moving on to the next one. they referred to him as "lazy" for not obtaining a better copy to cover his tracks, suggesting he steals from them all the time and at this point is just playing pieces of their show on his show intentionally. cause howard stern needs some of those o&a ratings, right?
nogoodbastid 11 months ago
@ZaSchafer they also talked about what great radio it was, and how you could never do that on terrestrial radio today. this was after howard had played the exact same song on his show on terrestrial radio and it got no response. ant still brings up "the house next door to me was sold..." song constantly, which he definitely first heard on the stern show back when he listened every day. i'm not saying that's theft in any way, but come on. howard's been doing the racist songs thing since the 80's.
nogoodbastid 11 months ago
@nogoodbastid when they talk about not being able to do it on terrestrial, its not because of FCC regs but pussy station owners. howey did and does get away with more than they ever will/have, because the bosses back him, (before you could argue rating but satellite doesn't know, now its because sirus is built around him and they dont have a choice.) media sucks today because of that pussy mentality but stern doesnt care he got paid and only ever cared about his free speech
ZaSchafer 11 months ago
@ZaSchafer sirius always knows how many listeners a show has because advertisers need to know those numbers. in the 2 ratings books released on all of satellite radio howard's 2 stations were the #1 and #2. howard 100 had over 5 times as many listeners as the virus. ratings aren't really relevant to this particular argument about stealing bits, but o&a fans try to argue they are somewhere near howard's level and it's untrue. that's taste completely aside. you can still say their show is funnier.
nogoodbastid 11 months ago
@nogoodbastid im not arguing that they are on his level with viewers, never did, and i ment satellite doesnt care. there is no way that song would air on am/fm today. ive never heard O&A say they had howard's numbers, ive only heard them correct and put in to context the figures he edits. funny is subjective, what is not however is my original point that there is now way in hell howard would not have let it go if they play material played on his show,
ZaSchafer 11 months ago
@ZaSchafer i'm just pointing out that it's ridiculous of them to claim that he stole their song, and that he steals all the time from other dj's. especially since they grew up listening to him and obviously took a lot of their show directly from his. they have a wackpack with retards and stutterers. they have a wrap-up show hosted by their producer. they say things like "douche-chills" that is a term invented on the stern show. anthony was on the goddamn show for a contest!
nogoodbastid 11 months ago
@nogoodbastid i grew up in georgia they've been doing racist songs for centuries hooohooooo we invented racism
ZaSchafer 11 months ago
fuck Oral and Anal, two of the biggest, no talent tools to walk the earth
evh4450 1 year ago
@evh4450 Hoo Hoo Robin... You like Bah Bah Booey, and Rolbin and Slave Fred....Aritie killed himself. Great show. Go F' yourself. Lil' Jimmy N. is funnier than your entire show. You loser.
rjasin123 1 year ago
Cut the crap with the exuses Howard is the King of radio and the O and A quote pest always have to bring up Howard Stern just deal with the facts they are both working for the same company now and Howard is still the man and is still making more money and has more listeners and will untill he retires!
29GreenBay 1 year ago
Cut the crap with the exuses Howard is the King of radio and the O and A quote pest always have to bring up Howard Stern just deal with the facts they are both work for the same company now and Howard is still the man and is still making more money and has more listeners and will untill he retires!
29GreenBay 1 year ago
Sooooooo...at 2:06...? What is that bell sound? And at 2:09, whose laugh is that? The answers are: Anthony's offensive bell sound and Anthony's laugh you absolute moron. Your king played A CLIP FROM OPIE AND ANTHONY'S SHOW ON HIS OWN SHOW. That is one of the many reason why people claim that Howard rips people off. You picked the wrong incident to rip on the O&A show and its fans. If you can somehow defend the FACT that Howard played a clip from O&A's show, then good for you. Dumb cunt.
CGNU 1 year ago
@CGNU how dense can you be? nobody is denying the fact that the song is obviously from the o&a show, sherlock. the fact that howard opened acknowledges at the beginning of the clip that they were sent in by a listener who got them off the internet is the point. if you searched "racist song" on napster a bunch of songs would pop up, the "candy-man" one was one of them. and let's get real, they were all either labeled "david allan coe" or "weird al." howard didn't know where it came from.
nogoodbastid 1 year ago
@nyyNYR2094 i think this past year has been the worst. the show is just kinda coasting since artie has been gone and since they still technically are considering him part of the show, no one has replaced him. i think the return of artie to talk about everything is gonna be great radio, tho.
nogoodbastid 1 year ago
howard stern sucks. naht funny.
tyriasmostwanted 1 year ago 11
actually the main example hoo hoo howie said he invented WOW first. Then theres the flashing on the today show where the chic had a wow sticker showing and right after it happened howard said on his show lets do a flashing on the today show.
Funny how the king did all his radio battles on air (mancow, imus, bubba) but not when it came to o&A. He used backstage politics and whined like a b*tch to Mel Karmazin to make sure they never mentioned him on air. Some great free speech promotor he is
aq2111 1 year ago
@aq2111 opie and anthony were afternoon guys who worked for the same company. they were attacking him to try to get the attention of a radio war with him and he made sure that didn't work for them. the other shows you mentioned he went to war with were shows he was competing for ratings with.
nogoodbastid 1 year ago
@nogoodbastid i've never heard of the flashing thing, so i dunno about that. but radio stations have been rewarding people for putting their bumper stickers on the cars since the bumper sticker was invented. whoever decided to shockjock it up by adding tits to the bumper sticker promotion didn't exactly have to be a genius, and i doubt it made for great radio.
nogoodbastid 1 year ago
@nogoodbastid whn did thy attack him? Stern fans claim that they did a bit called minority jepordy in boston nd they ripped tht off howard. Whn they came to ny stern made it clear he didnt want to have anythin to do wit them. Listen to stern on hannity nd he admits its not bout free speech, its about his free speech. So all the years he complaind about bein censored nd thn he does it, doesnt tht make him a hyppocrite? O&A neva got mvd to krock bc of stern. Evn w/o howie they were very successful
aq2111 1 year ago
@aq2111 i dunno exactly all the shit they said about him. but apparently they made jokes about his daughter od'ing and him crying at the hospital and other shit like that. they weren't even on at the same time, if howard attacked them on his show, he would just be giving them listeners who would want to listen to their show later and hear their response. when he went head to head with another show, he would talk all kinds of shit about them because people weren't gonna flip to the other guy.
nogoodbastid 1 year ago
@nogoodbastid First of all CGNU is rite in tht u can hear O&A laughin nd Anthony ringing his inappropriate bell @2:06 so right ther stern playd a clip frm DA O&A SHOW. Did he deliberatly take it, maybe or maybe not. I neva heard of o&A trashin his daughter, I knw laughd whn he seperated frm his wife b/c howie cried on air.
The bigga issue is tht stern has for years claimd to be a censored but hes a hypocrite. Its one thing to not be involvd but he held ther careers down, how can u respect him?
aq2111 1 year ago
@aq2111 he held their careers down by stopping them from talking about him? why couldn't they do a good show without making it about howard stern? how sad is that?
the fact that this was obviously a time-killing throw-away bit of playing a few songs a listener sent in, and on the o&a show they talked this song up as an amazing great contest song they got in big trouble for is kinda telling, don't you think? they hooted thru the song like it was brilliant, and howard moved on to something else.
nogoodbastid 1 year ago
@nogoodbastid Stern got a gag order put on afta O&A blew the announcement of STP playin a concert. So he goes on air like a lil b*tch and offers an ultimadum of either they shut up or he quits. Stern also stopped guest frm going on O&A by threatening them tht they wouldnt be on his show. When O&A were getting syndicated in different markets he tried to make sure they didn't get on any of the stations he's on. O&A always said they had respect for stern, he's the one tht startd it bc hes insecure
aq2111 1 year ago
@aq2111 and if he was really such a dick who held them back, why are they still so cordial with him? howard says hello to them when he sees them, and they admit that. their fans are the ones who hold this insane grudge.
nogoodbastid 1 year ago
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Cap420 1 year ago
You're a complete idiot if you don't see how Howards radio wars with IMUS, MANCOW, etc. were 100% different then the "war" with O&A.
Cap420 1 year ago
@Cap420 I know the exact diff douche. The diff was he went right after all those guys whereas with O&A he cried like a little b*tch to management behind the scenes to have them shut up and did everything he could to hold them down like threaten guests that they wouldn't be on his show if they went on theirs.
aq2111 1 year ago
@aq2111 no the difference is that he was competing with the other shows. they were on at the same time. opie and anthony wanted howard to talk about him to get the publicity. him going after them on the air would be the biggest advertisement for their show they ever had because they weren't on at the same time as him. it's like how small-time rappers make a diss song towards a more successful rapper in hopes the bigger name rapper will diss them back.
nogoodbastid 1 year ago
@nogoodbastid the bottom line is tht stern has for years wantd free speech but go an listen to him on Sean Hannity. He says hes not a supporter of free speech, but a supporter of HIS free speech. Hes a total hyppocrite. & as far as them needing to make fun of stern to get famous, even wit tht gag order thy were syndicated thru the country in major markets. O&A were small time? Yea being #1 in all male demos in NY is really small time. Stern fans cant admit tht hes a lil whiny baby, a male diva
aq2111 1 year ago
@aq2111 yikes. that's some pretty heavy spin. they got dropped from every market they had.
nogoodbastid 1 year ago
@nogoodbastid umm no not when they were syndicated in afternoon drive. They were fired b/c of the sex for sam stunt.
aq2111 1 year ago
@aq2111 come on. that's afternoon for christ's sake. you can't compare that to morning.
nogoodbastid 1 year ago
@nogoodbastid well they never had a shot at mornings years ago b/c of hoo hoo howie. And when they were on mornings they were competing against themselves on xm and the economy kind of crashed. I'm sure stern and his fans seem to forget that. You keep moving on from the fact that stern is a insecure hyppocrite who instead of fighting his battles, whined like a baby to management, wah wah wah.
aq2111 1 year ago
@aq2111 their show on FREE radio failed because of the economy?
nogoodbastid 1 year ago
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aq2111 1 year ago
@nogoodbastid well seeing as how i had to educate you on everything else, yes thy were competing against thmselvs, so any fan tht had xm didnt listen on radio. And yea tht whole economy recession thing had SOME EFFECT! All the stations thy were on switched from talk/rock to top 40 b/c it's cheaper. Thy were still high in target demos whn thy left free radio but the companys changed formats b/c it's cheaper for the entire station. But again stern is a b*tch & u cnt admit it, Hoo Hoo Robin!!!
aq2111 1 year ago
@aq2111 "But again stern is a b*tch & u cnt admit it, Hoo Hoo Robin!!!" opie and anthony failed, you're the one who can't admit it. howard left at #1, they were given all the stations he had accumulated over the years and lost them all. i can see you saying that you like their show better, but you're making excuses for why they failed where howard undeniably succeeded. didn't they also claim that howard couldn't save sirius because they were too far behind xm? how did that turn out?
nogoodbastid 1 year ago
@nogoodbastid yea they were given all the stations but if stern had the same thing happen would you listen to him on satellite or regular radio when you already have satellite einstein? O&A were still #1 in male demos when the stations decided to change format! It wasn't like they replaced O&A w/ another type of talk show, the stations changed format b/c, even stern couldnt have saved them. All those stations are top 40's now not rock, you can't blame that on one show.
aq2111 1 year ago
@aq2111 when stern did mornings on k-rock it brought the average rating of the entire station up enough that they could pretty much be whatever format they wanted. advertisers were given deals in which they had to advertise during other times of the day in order to get advertising during the stern show.
nogoodbastid 1 year ago
@nogoodbastid comparing free radio in the 80's to a few years ago is completely different. There were things done then that couldnt now. If stern was so confident he could repeat wht he did back then he would have went back to fm but he's smart enuff to knw it wouldnt happen. Sirius and XM merged, at the time it happened xm was da bigger company. the only reason the govt allowed the merger even thou it violated anti trust laws nd creatd a monopoly was bc both companys wud hav wnt outta busines
aq2111 1 year ago
@aq2111 the 80's? he was number 1 until he left fm at the end of 2005. opie and anthony failed just a couple of years later. he was at #1, meaning he literally beat every other station. they weren't even in the top 20.
nogoodbastid 1 year ago
@nogoodbastid lets say howard does the same deal they did where he's on both regular radio and satellite. Would you be listening to him on fm where he's subject to fcc regulations & cnt curse or on satelitte where he's uncensored? Krock is now a pop station, do you really think that stern's four hours a day would hav savd tht station? Ask any wall street analyst and they'll tell you that stern wasn't close to bein worth wht sirius paid him in his 1st contract, stock price thn $6.50, now $1.50
aq2111 1 year ago
@aq2111 in either ratings book that arbitron released for satellite radio, o&a didn't have nearly enough xm listeners to have swayed the ratings that much on fm considering the xm audience is spread out nationwide and they were dropped from dozens of markets on fm.
nogoodbastid 11 months ago
@nogoodbastid & stern has done so great w/ sirius, is tht why it had to merge with XM?? Had tht mergr not happen neitha company would be around so tht 500 million big nose was paid didnt bring up the stock price or anythin. Stern always says tht letterman is ten times betta thn leno even thou jay has betta ratings, he said lenos fans must be retarded. They must be just like his fans then. If O&A were such failure y r they still on satellite? y would they have been syndicated in afternoon drive?
aq2111 1 year ago
@aq2111 when stern signed to sirius they had a small fraction of the subsribers that xm had. eventually they got big enough to merge, and all the redundant people from xm were let go. sirius took over xm.
nogoodbastid 1 year ago