Notorious human rights abusers draw inspiration from US authorities
Egypt's infamous state security apparatus, notorious for spying on political activists and torturing dissidents, has renamed itself "homeland security," presumably in homage to its American namesake, which has also been used as a tool of political repression.
Google Report for full story, don’t believe the AMERICUNTS when they say they are champions of freedom. They are fucking liars.
No, when people say "that's an anti-American sentiment" it's just a bullshit, indefensible line that is about shutting down conversation. She gives no reason why it's supposedly wrong she just says it's "anti-American" (ironically with her British accent).
It's funny how people thumb their nose at OWS. Let's go a little more in perspective...you have students, whom invested thousands on education buying into a sold dream but can't get a mcdonald's job...you have veterans whom risked life and limb for our country, yet plenty unemployed...you have the forced homeless due to BAD FINANCIAL DECISIONS MADE ON WALL STREET whom lost all of their savings and homes. These are the people protesting but the MEDIA won't tell the truth on tv. Thats my 2cents
The War On Drugs has created the precedents for this massive violation of individual civil rights. Read for instance: Black Robes, White Justice by judge Bruce M. Wright.
Right on Sam. I could add that this started with the War On Drugs, and accellerated with the War On Terrorism.
They used to try these tactics in minority and some poor white communities - like the "Top Down Search" (searching everyone in a building just because they live there). Or the replacement of jury trials with 'plea agreements' - from 50% in the 1960s to 82% in the 1980s.
Look up Harrison, Arkansas. The Police just received an armored personel carrier, complete with gun turrets (something you would only see in an 'active' war zone from the Feds. Quote Harrioson Daily Times " they will use it to serve warrants".....wtf...warrants on who? Militant Islamic Terrorists? Or patriotic citizens?,,,,,..this is a country music/redneck kinda 'Small Town USA' what possible 'need' could their be for this? Take a guess!!!!!!
~~> The reason why college police have riot gear should be evedent by what happened in PA after the Paterno Sandusky crap and every other college riot in the last 20 years... Drunk collage kids set shit on fire and turn over cars over team wins & losses... They asked for it and now they got it... Just like the TSA... Americans begged to be protected from the boogieman and now its anal probing time... My Mama said be careful what you ask for, you just might get it... In the ass....
'I want to be very clear in calling upon the Egyptian authorities to refrain from any violence against peaceful protestors. The people of Egypt have rights that are universal. That includes the right to peacefully assembly and association, the right to free speech, and the ability to determine their own destiny. These are human rights. And the United States will stand up for them everywhere.'
The militarization of the police depts. of this country is because of the recruitment of police officers by the local police. This is a stated policy with no abatement in sight, but this is totally indicative of the way in which the government sees us, the citizens. We now have a class war, a class war are the people who are being penalized for living. I demand the cessation of policies which caused this problem, also the retraining of police from one of adversarial to serve protect and defend.
I know you weren't arguing this, but I should say that my point still stands. Many people can make that amount and more honestly. Being within the wealthy 1% does not make a person guilty of corruption and offenses against humanity.
There are those who we KNOW are guilty of these crimes. They should be investigated & prosecuted. But we can't demand that everyone making over $343,000 p/year be punished is all I'm saying.
@GrowTheTruth you fool, 'prosecuting and investigating' the 'corruption' isnt going to do shit. The american flag is made in china...try to prosecute that. the whole system needs to be changed. try to prosecute the big corporations for moving overseas. study the french revolution. there is an aristocracy in america that needs to be destroyed. the peasants have to overthrow the aristocracy to achieve anything..that is the class warfare. you have fecal matter for a brain.
@biorgymd I'm a son of immigrants who appreciates what this great nation is and how it was founded and for what reasons . I"m a real american , I live the american dream everyday , it's not that hard to get, you have to stop dreaming and just do it. you sound like a subversive commie want to be. get ready for your terrorist microchip. Im loved all over the world for who I am and because I was in the circus. I'm generous to a fault but because I want to be not becuase I"m taxed for it. gfys
@biorgymd hahaha your funny you should be a comdian with your dumb shit. your the one who is espousing anti american sentiment. my grandfather was a multi millionare in cuba . I had a very proper education in a private school, unlike your's. my great grandmother a duchess in spain. I have word of mouth education and formal education from 2 continents and 3 nations . I understand the workings of our nation far better than you will you commie.
@biorgymd hey I'm hip to the illusion of freedom, it's more like a permissive society. having to get permits to do just about everything. however I make more money here doing what I do with the disposable income people have here than anywhere else i can think of , and i can go anywhere I want to anytime.
@biorgymd stay on point here commie. yes if you are obstructing a public thoroughfare as a group(they were not merely just sitting there) they were asked to move ,, they did not. this is obstruction of justice of resisting arrest depending on how far it's escalated. things used to get far worse they should be glad the only thing that happened was pepper spray.
@biorgymd million dollar mansion in mirimar , and a beach house in veradero, rolls royce phantom, a driver, maids , butler, gardener etc. my grandad was a self made milionare. they left with the clothes on their back, and never looked back so don't pretend to tell me about communism you hater. :P jackass.
Reports out of Cairo Protesters are saying that all weapons used against them are from America; weapons received in 2011 post revolution. Protesters are saying that there is some new and experimental ammunition that is being used on them. Many of them are acid and alkaline based, cannons are firing canisters that explode into crowds of people with what seems to be like rubber bullets. Don’t believe the lies of Fascist Amerika being a champion of freedom. Liars, Liars.
the police chose to put their retirement into risky vehicles it's their own fault not the bankers. what possible reason could police have for having those things?? they are non leathal devices, we want the police to have these tools to put down uprisings which ows is quickly becoming if left unchecked.
Anti American sentiment? Hmm stupid blondie? I'm a libertarian and hate Seder's screeds against libertarianism, but I agree with him, it is indeed class warfare. And saying it's unamerican is a non argument. So fuck off with your stupid bleached head and your flashy accent back to the UK.
So many talking heads seeking their 15 minutes of fame and glory on television, anyone who watches television for any other purpose than to criticize it needs a lobotomy.
Damn straight it is about time every sleeping American awakes to the loss of their freedom. This is becoming a police State more and more and more. People wake up.
The Occupy protesters are not against the people in the 1% who have made their money honestly and fairly. They are against those individuals in the 1% who have used corruption, lies and aggression to obtain profit.
I suggest you do some research. There's far more information out there than beyond your favorite, bias news channel.
i support ows. i suggest you dont assume that i get my information from 'my favorite news channel'...i dont own a television. The 1%, regardless of how they obtained their wealth, control the politicians, foreign policy, and the govt. That, in itself, gives rise to corrupt institutions like the prison and military indutrial complex, and the 'war on drugs'...and yes, this is class warfare, regardless of how you try to sugar coat it.
@Uprising771 If this is class warfare, then why am I making a very nice salary and still a supporter of the Occupy movement. Not everyone who supports and partakes in the Occupy movement is poor. However, everyone who partakes understands that they've been scammed by those corrupt individuals in power.
Even the official Occupy Wall Street website states that this is about corruption. =_= Get a clue.
@GrowTheTruth look idiot. take your nice salary and shove it up your ass. the majority of ows protestors certainly arent rich. OWS wouldnt even take place if 1 out of 4 americans were unemployed. it may not be obvious to you, but this is a class war, and you only have to wait a few more months to realize it yourself.
@Uprising771 Calm down guys, Uprising771 has a good job now, how much longer that may last is anyone's guess. Like you say, in a way it is turning into a class war and that will not solve the problem. The problem is corruption from the top on down and until we get that cancer out of our government we as American citizens will never get our country back. Pretty soon we will all have to show our ID's to get from state to state, we are losing our Constitutional rights if they have not already been.
@Uprising771 1 out of 4 Americans wouldn't be unemployed if it weren't for the corruption that lost America those jobs.
You can try to blame those who make an honest living, but you can't turn this into a rich vs poor. What a childish view to take. This is about the honest vs. the corrupt. Against those who have corrupted the system & lost those jobs for hard-working Americans.
You can either target their success (which will get you nowhere) or target the corruption behind their success.
@Uprising771 Your perspective is so simplistic that it can't help but make you look like a tool.
Class warfare accomplishes nothing. Yes, those who hurt Americans are wealthy, but it is not their wealth you need to attack. Go after the corrupt way in which they aquired that wealth.
Saying, "we're poor because they're wealthy" is such piss-poor logic. Instead, look at it as "we're poor because they've aquired wealth through corrupt means". That's provable logic. That's a winnable fight.
@GrowTheTruth did i say any of your 'sayings'....wtf. debating you makes no sense because you continue to assume stupid bullshit. this is not as simple as rich vs poor. this is about the super-elite, the top of the pyramid, the 1% that controls everything VS everybody else. this is the class war. that 1% makes the rules, and YOU live by them. listen idiot, most americans are poorer because the jobs have shifted overseas, and america produces nothing.
@Uprising771 Did you know that anyone making $250,000 annually or more is in the top 1% of the population? Many actors, engineers, doctors, authors, architects and more make $250,000 annually. Many of them do it honestly and got there through hard work. Are they guilty? Will you blame them for placing you in your situation?
The fact is that the group of people who truly corrupt the system are far smaller than 1%.
You live by those rules just as much as I do. The point is to change those rules.
@GrowTheTruth look, most wealth is inherited wealth. why do you think the rothschilds still rule the banking system? there are very few ppl who are 'success stories' . but a billionaires child, will almost always be a billionaire. this isnt about ppl that make $250,000 or even $10 million a year. this is about the billionaires who have so much wealth that they control the executive, legislative, judicial system and ALL FORMS of media. please preach about 'hard work' to paris hilton
@Uprising771 You just admitted that you agree with me, so why are you arguing?
This ISN'T about people who make $250,00 or more a year. This IS about wealthy individuals who have gained their wealth through corrupt means, which gives them control over the system & all forms of media.
So, this isn't class warfare, because there are those out there who make their millions honestly. It's warfare against those who corrupt to control & profit.
@GrowTheTruth first you said the wealthy gained their wealth thru corruption, and hard work, and also through inheritance. who exactly is held accountable for the corruption? you dont really have a clue do you? is it ok for 1 man who gained his wealth through non-corrupt means to rule over the poitics, govt, and media? this is what makes it class warfare. wealth is power. if you are fighting corruption, go to washington and sign petitions fucktard. OWS is about fighting economic injustice
@Uprising771 (2/2) As soon as a man, who has earned his wealth through uncorrupt means, attempts to rule over people through the power of money, then he has become corrupt. Yet, there are those who earn their money through uncorrupt means and do not try to rule over people.
Look at J.K. Rowling, the author of Harry Potter. She's richer than the Queen, now, but she started out writing the books as a poor starving writer. She's not trying to control you or hurt your future. Is she guilty?
@GrowTheTruth no, she is NOT richer than the queen..i dont care what forbes magazine says. but anyway, i hope you can 'investigate' and 'prosecute' the 'corrupt'. and then suddenly, america will regain her jobs, production will resume, inflation and the trade deficit will be eliminated, and politics will be separated from corporatism. 'investigate and prosecute' ..yeah, keep dreaming...bye
@Uprising771 If you have a chip on your shoulder for whatever reason, then that's your choice. But don't expect very many people to side with you on that. Most people can comprehend the pettiness of class warfare and the seriousness of focusing on corruption.
If wanting to punish those who are doing better than you through their own honest work, & wanting to lump them together with the dishonest, really makes you happy then hate on. I just choose to be rational about where I direct my anger.
@Uprising771 (1/2) I said that there are those who gain their wealth by corruption, but many also gain their wealth through hard work and, as you had said, inheritance. Neither hard work nor inheritance into wealth is detrimental to other people's ability to live in equal opportunity.
It is wealth by means of corruption and the use of wealth for the purpose of corruption that hurts Americans by losing them jobs & hurting the economy.
This shit is worse and been building up longer than you think you know. Google Operation Urban Warrior and Operation Garden Plot. Police are following the playbook to a T.
Saying that those socialist welfare states are better in creating possibilties for their citizens to fulfill the american dream is pretty antiamerican imho.
I heard they are trying to set up Alex Jones and his listeners as domestic terrorist. 2big scary terrorist's in a row, both under the "influence " of Infowars. This is getting interesting
I also heard that in 2012 the only place American votes would be counted would be on their phones as they are pushing the buttons to vote for their favorite circus freaks on Dancing with the Stars.
99% are waking up everywhere...
yanikv 3 months ago
pigs will always be pigs
inthepurelight 3 months ago
They have been sent home on paid administrative vacation. Courtesey of the people.
hotchicksandpuppies 3 months ago
***BREAKING NEWS***
Notorious human rights abusers draw inspiration from US authorities
Egypt's infamous state security apparatus, notorious for spying on political activists and torturing dissidents, has renamed itself "homeland security," presumably in homage to its American namesake, which has also been used as a tool of political repression.
Google Report for full story, don’t believe the AMERICUNTS when they say they are champions of freedom. They are fucking liars.
biorgymd 3 months ago
No, when people say "that's an anti-American sentiment" it's just a bullshit, indefensible line that is about shutting down conversation. She gives no reason why it's supposedly wrong she just says it's "anti-American" (ironically with her British accent).
BottleConcreteBlond 3 months ago
It's funny how people thumb their nose at OWS. Let's go a little more in perspective...you have students, whom invested thousands on education buying into a sold dream but can't get a mcdonald's job...you have veterans whom risked life and limb for our country, yet plenty unemployed...you have the forced homeless due to BAD FINANCIAL DECISIONS MADE ON WALL STREET whom lost all of their savings and homes. These are the people protesting but the MEDIA won't tell the truth on tv. Thats my 2cents
dgentllc 3 months ago
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Love thy enemy
aevasic 3 months ago
The War On Drugs has created the precedents for this massive violation of individual civil rights. Read for instance: Black Robes, White Justice by judge Bruce M. Wright.
End the War On Drugs.
tigerone1970 3 months ago
Right on Sam. I could add that this started with the War On Drugs, and accellerated with the War On Terrorism.
They used to try these tactics in minority and some poor white communities - like the "Top Down Search" (searching everyone in a building just because they live there). Or the replacement of jury trials with 'plea agreements' - from 50% in the 1960s to 82% in the 1980s.
tigerone1970 3 months ago
To Serve and Protect???
emeraldcrescent 3 months ago
1984 taken to alarming heights,
THIS IS SICK! and WE pay these guys to do this
jamesjjjspike 3 months ago
Yeah and mob rule without law is the way to go. Get real.
warfossil 3 months ago
Talk about the freakin twilite zone, I just woke up in it!
hardtimefindingname 3 months ago
Look up Harrison, Arkansas. The Police just received an armored personel carrier, complete with gun turrets (something you would only see in an 'active' war zone from the Feds. Quote Harrioson Daily Times " they will use it to serve warrants".....wtf...warrants on who? Militant Islamic Terrorists? Or patriotic citizens?,,,,,..this is a country music/redneck kinda 'Small Town USA' what possible 'need' could their be for this? Take a guess!!!!!!
bikerXLC 3 months ago 3
@bikerXLC
ROUTINE POLICE WORK.
COPS ARE HOMELAND TERRORISTS, OPERATING ABOVE-THE-LAW UNDER GUISE OF "PROTECTORS."
FOR EVERY 1 VIDEO ON YOUTUBE, THERE ARE 10,000 INCIDENTS OF POLICE BRUTALITY, TORTURE, FALSE IMPRISONMENT & OVERT CRIMINAL CONDUCT YOU'LL NEVER SEE...
CRIMINALS IN UNIFORM, ALL OF THEM.
ONE BAD APPLE ROTS THE WHOLE BUNCH, THEY'RE ALL BAD.
KNOW YOUR FOES!
COPS TERRORIZE, MAIM AND KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE DAILY, AND SLEEP LIKE BABIES...
IT'S US AGAINST THEM NOW.
POLICE ARE PUBLIC ENEMY #1.
AmericanTaxSlaver 2 months ago 2
I predict that the occupy movement wil morph into TRUTH! WATCH AND SEE!
Renagadepatriot 3 months ago
~~> The reason why college police have riot gear should be evedent by what happened in PA after the Paterno Sandusky crap and every other college riot in the last 20 years... Drunk collage kids set shit on fire and turn over cars over team wins & losses... They asked for it and now they got it... Just like the TSA... Americans begged to be protected from the boogieman and now its anal probing time... My Mama said be careful what you ask for, you just might get it... In the ass....
sparkyj99 3 months ago
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'I want to be very clear in calling upon the Egyptian authorities to refrain from any violence against peaceful protestors. The people of Egypt have rights that are universal. That includes the right to peacefully assembly and association, the right to free speech, and the ability to determine their own destiny. These are human rights. And the United States will stand up for them everywhere.'
Barack Obama, Jan 28 2011
mw2000 3 months ago
Fat fucking no-neck with a smirk on his jowls needs an attitude adjustment. Hope the MF gets one lickety-split.
makwabid69 3 months ago
@makwabid69 <~~ lol... You said Jowls...
sparkyj99 3 months ago
The militarization of the police depts. of this country is because of the recruitment of police officers by the local police. This is a stated policy with no abatement in sight, but this is totally indicative of the way in which the government sees us, the citizens. We now have a class war, a class war are the people who are being penalized for living. I demand the cessation of policies which caused this problem, also the retraining of police from one of adversarial to serve protect and defend.
journeyer58 3 months ago
@ziger123456 I stand corrected, then.
I know you weren't arguing this, but I should say that my point still stands. Many people can make that amount and more honestly. Being within the wealthy 1% does not make a person guilty of corruption and offenses against humanity.
There are those who we KNOW are guilty of these crimes. They should be investigated & prosecuted. But we can't demand that everyone making over $343,000 p/year be punished is all I'm saying.
GrowTheTruth 3 months ago
@GrowTheTruth you fool, 'prosecuting and investigating' the 'corruption' isnt going to do shit. The american flag is made in china...try to prosecute that. the whole system needs to be changed. try to prosecute the big corporations for moving overseas. study the french revolution. there is an aristocracy in america that needs to be destroyed. the peasants have to overthrow the aristocracy to achieve anything..that is the class warfare. you have fecal matter for a brain.
Uprising771 3 months ago
Fake Fake Fake Video
This is A scene from Tahrir square and professionally edited.
Our Cops are well Trained Educated and Discipline.
TRUTHvsDECEPTION 3 months ago
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Zanins 3 months ago
@TRUTHvsDECEPTION K then link me the original video
Zanins 3 months ago
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biorgymd 3 months ago
@biorgymd I'm a son of immigrants who appreciates what this great nation is and how it was founded and for what reasons . I"m a real american , I live the american dream everyday , it's not that hard to get, you have to stop dreaming and just do it. you sound like a subversive commie want to be. get ready for your terrorist microchip. Im loved all over the world for who I am and because I was in the circus. I'm generous to a fault but because I want to be not becuase I"m taxed for it. gfys
circusboy90210 3 months ago
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biorgymd 3 months ago
@biorgymd Way to be a hypocrite.
warfossil 3 months ago
@warfossil Yea, from the biggest hypocritical country on earth.
biorgymd 3 months ago
@biorgymd You can leave anytime. I'm sure no one will stop you.
warfossil 3 months ago
@biorgymd hahaha your funny you should be a comdian with your dumb shit. your the one who is espousing anti american sentiment. my grandfather was a multi millionare in cuba . I had a very proper education in a private school, unlike your's. my great grandmother a duchess in spain. I have word of mouth education and formal education from 2 continents and 3 nations . I understand the workings of our nation far better than you will you commie.
circusboy90210 3 months ago
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biorgymd 3 months ago
@biorgymd hey I'm hip to the illusion of freedom, it's more like a permissive society. having to get permits to do just about everything. however I make more money here doing what I do with the disposable income people have here than anywhere else i can think of , and i can go anywhere I want to anytime.
circusboy90210 3 months ago
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biorgymd 3 months ago
@biorgymd stay on point here commie. yes if you are obstructing a public thoroughfare as a group(they were not merely just sitting there) they were asked to move ,, they did not. this is obstruction of justice of resisting arrest depending on how far it's escalated. things used to get far worse they should be glad the only thing that happened was pepper spray.
circusboy90210 3 months ago
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biorgymd 3 months ago
@biorgymd fidel stole everything my family ever had down there. what's with you and the gay shit??
circusboy90210 3 months ago
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biorgymd 3 months ago
@biorgymd million dollar mansion in mirimar , and a beach house in veradero, rolls royce phantom, a driver, maids , butler, gardener etc. my grandad was a self made milionare. they left with the clothes on their back, and never looked back so don't pretend to tell me about communism you hater. :P jackass.
circusboy90210 3 months ago
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biorgymd 3 months ago
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biorgymd 3 months ago
@biorgymd look breaking the law is not always punished if popularity destroys peoples confidence in law. however those kids are wrong.
circusboy90210 3 months ago
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biorgymd 3 months ago
lol they are just realising this now?
ISellSigals 3 months ago
This is exactly how nazi Germany started.
ammiralowling 3 months ago
**BREAKING NEWS**
Reports out of Cairo Protesters are saying that all weapons used against them are from America; weapons received in 2011 post revolution. Protesters are saying that there is some new and experimental ammunition that is being used on them. Many of them are acid and alkaline based, cannons are firing canisters that explode into crowds of people with what seems to be like rubber bullets. Don’t believe the lies of Fascist Amerika being a champion of freedom. Liars, Liars.
biorgymd 3 months ago
the police chose to put their retirement into risky vehicles it's their own fault not the bankers. what possible reason could police have for having those things?? they are non leathal devices, we want the police to have these tools to put down uprisings which ows is quickly becoming if left unchecked.
circusboy90210 3 months ago
Anti American sentiment? Hmm stupid blondie? I'm a libertarian and hate Seder's screeds against libertarianism, but I agree with him, it is indeed class warfare. And saying it's unamerican is a non argument. So fuck off with your stupid bleached head and your flashy accent back to the UK.
So many talking heads seeking their 15 minutes of fame and glory on television, anyone who watches television for any other purpose than to criticize it needs a lobotomy.
Otzmatron 3 months ago 3
@unitytorch obstructing justice is not being peaceable.
circusboy90210 3 months ago
Why not include Sam Seder's name in the headline?
HolyCity2012 3 months ago
Why is "Sam Seder" not included in the tags?
HolyCity2012 3 months ago
@HolyCity2012
I added him thanks there was a couple things missing from these tags.
FIXED :)~MOXy
MOXNEWSd0tC0M 3 months ago 2
I love how the cop spraying the protesters gets played over and over.
atripa645 3 months ago
Just wait until the war with iran!
shaneclone15 3 months ago
Damn straight it is about time every sleeping American awakes to the loss of their freedom. This is becoming a police State more and more and more. People wake up.
johnnycmajor 3 months ago
'this is not about class warfare'...oh it sure is
Uprising771 3 months ago
@Uprising771 No. No, it is not.
The Occupy protesters are not against the people in the 1% who have made their money honestly and fairly. They are against those individuals in the 1% who have used corruption, lies and aggression to obtain profit.
I suggest you do some research. There's far more information out there than beyond your favorite, bias news channel.
GrowTheTruth 3 months ago
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Uprising771 3 months ago
i support ows. i suggest you dont assume that i get my information from 'my favorite news channel'...i dont own a television. The 1%, regardless of how they obtained their wealth, control the politicians, foreign policy, and the govt. That, in itself, gives rise to corrupt institutions like the prison and military indutrial complex, and the 'war on drugs'...and yes, this is class warfare, regardless of how you try to sugar coat it.
Uprising771 3 months ago
@Uprising771 If this is class warfare, then why am I making a very nice salary and still a supporter of the Occupy movement. Not everyone who supports and partakes in the Occupy movement is poor. However, everyone who partakes understands that they've been scammed by those corrupt individuals in power.
Even the official Occupy Wall Street website states that this is about corruption. =_= Get a clue.
GrowTheTruth 3 months ago 9
@GrowTheTruth look idiot. take your nice salary and shove it up your ass. the majority of ows protestors certainly arent rich. OWS wouldnt even take place if 1 out of 4 americans were unemployed. it may not be obvious to you, but this is a class war, and you only have to wait a few more months to realize it yourself.
Uprising771 3 months ago
@Uprising771 Calm down guys, Uprising771 has a good job now, how much longer that may last is anyone's guess. Like you say, in a way it is turning into a class war and that will not solve the problem. The problem is corruption from the top on down and until we get that cancer out of our government we as American citizens will never get our country back. Pretty soon we will all have to show our ID's to get from state to state, we are losing our Constitutional rights if they have not already been.
4390100 3 months ago
@4390100 i dont have a good job...youre getting me mixed up with growthetruth.
Uprising771 3 months ago
@Uprising771 1 out of 4 Americans wouldn't be unemployed if it weren't for the corruption that lost America those jobs.
You can try to blame those who make an honest living, but you can't turn this into a rich vs poor. What a childish view to take. This is about the honest vs. the corrupt. Against those who have corrupted the system & lost those jobs for hard-working Americans.
You can either target their success (which will get you nowhere) or target the corruption behind their success.
GrowTheTruth 3 months ago
@Uprising771 Your perspective is so simplistic that it can't help but make you look like a tool.
Class warfare accomplishes nothing. Yes, those who hurt Americans are wealthy, but it is not their wealth you need to attack. Go after the corrupt way in which they aquired that wealth.
Saying, "we're poor because they're wealthy" is such piss-poor logic. Instead, look at it as "we're poor because they've aquired wealth through corrupt means". That's provable logic. That's a winnable fight.
GrowTheTruth 3 months ago
@GrowTheTruth did i say any of your 'sayings'....wtf. debating you makes no sense because you continue to assume stupid bullshit. this is not as simple as rich vs poor. this is about the super-elite, the top of the pyramid, the 1% that controls everything VS everybody else. this is the class war. that 1% makes the rules, and YOU live by them. listen idiot, most americans are poorer because the jobs have shifted overseas, and america produces nothing.
Uprising771 3 months ago
@Uprising771 Did you know that anyone making $250,000 annually or more is in the top 1% of the population? Many actors, engineers, doctors, authors, architects and more make $250,000 annually. Many of them do it honestly and got there through hard work. Are they guilty? Will you blame them for placing you in your situation?
The fact is that the group of people who truly corrupt the system are far smaller than 1%.
You live by those rules just as much as I do. The point is to change those rules.
GrowTheTruth 3 months ago
@GrowTheTruth look, most wealth is inherited wealth. why do you think the rothschilds still rule the banking system? there are very few ppl who are 'success stories' . but a billionaires child, will almost always be a billionaire. this isnt about ppl that make $250,000 or even $10 million a year. this is about the billionaires who have so much wealth that they control the executive, legislative, judicial system and ALL FORMS of media. please preach about 'hard work' to paris hilton
Uprising771 3 months ago
@Uprising771 You just admitted that you agree with me, so why are you arguing?
This ISN'T about people who make $250,00 or more a year. This IS about wealthy individuals who have gained their wealth through corrupt means, which gives them control over the system & all forms of media.
So, this isn't class warfare, because there are those out there who make their millions honestly. It's warfare against those who corrupt to control & profit.
Inheriting wealth is not a crime, by the way.
GrowTheTruth 3 months ago
@GrowTheTruth first you said the wealthy gained their wealth thru corruption, and hard work, and also through inheritance. who exactly is held accountable for the corruption? you dont really have a clue do you? is it ok for 1 man who gained his wealth through non-corrupt means to rule over the poitics, govt, and media? this is what makes it class warfare. wealth is power. if you are fighting corruption, go to washington and sign petitions fucktard. OWS is about fighting economic injustice
Uprising771 3 months ago
@Uprising771 (2/2) As soon as a man, who has earned his wealth through uncorrupt means, attempts to rule over people through the power of money, then he has become corrupt. Yet, there are those who earn their money through uncorrupt means and do not try to rule over people.
Look at J.K. Rowling, the author of Harry Potter. She's richer than the Queen, now, but she started out writing the books as a poor starving writer. She's not trying to control you or hurt your future. Is she guilty?
GrowTheTruth 3 months ago
@GrowTheTruth no, she is NOT richer than the queen..i dont care what forbes magazine says. but anyway, i hope you can 'investigate' and 'prosecute' the 'corrupt'. and then suddenly, america will regain her jobs, production will resume, inflation and the trade deficit will be eliminated, and politics will be separated from corporatism. 'investigate and prosecute' ..yeah, keep dreaming...bye
Uprising771 3 months ago
@Uprising771 If you have a chip on your shoulder for whatever reason, then that's your choice. But don't expect very many people to side with you on that. Most people can comprehend the pettiness of class warfare and the seriousness of focusing on corruption.
If wanting to punish those who are doing better than you through their own honest work, & wanting to lump them together with the dishonest, really makes you happy then hate on. I just choose to be rational about where I direct my anger.
GrowTheTruth 3 months ago
@Uprising771 (1/2) I said that there are those who gain their wealth by corruption, but many also gain their wealth through hard work and, as you had said, inheritance. Neither hard work nor inheritance into wealth is detrimental to other people's ability to live in equal opportunity.
It is wealth by means of corruption and the use of wealth for the purpose of corruption that hurts Americans by losing them jobs & hurting the economy.
GrowTheTruth 3 months ago
@GrowTheTruth get your facts straight - top 1% earns over $343,000 per year
financedotyahoodotcom just search top 1% income because i couldn't post the link
ziger123456 3 months ago
@GrowTheTruth LMA!!!. That bullshit made my day.
warfossil 3 months ago
@warfossil Your life must be pretty sad if my comment is what made your day.
GrowTheTruth 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@GrowTheTruth Do know what sarcasm is?
warfossil 3 months ago
@GrowTheTruth There is no such thing as an official OWS website.
ruffeeh 3 months ago
@ruffeeh occupywallst (dot) org
DERP!
GrowTheTruth 3 months ago
@GrowTheTruth try actually reading through the sites you're linking me to
herp
ruffeeh 3 months ago
@Uprising771 not class warfare. maybe it's why u r fighting? certainly not what the movement is about. sorry...
MusicalBucket 3 months ago
A bit of a white wash. END THE FED
Fastlane05 3 months ago
@Fastlane05 I beg you to make that point to Sam Seder, M-F 11:30am EST: 646-257-3920
HolyCity2012 3 months ago
This shit is worse and been building up longer than you think you know. Google Operation Urban Warrior and Operation Garden Plot. Police are following the playbook to a T.
GregorySEdwards 3 months ago
What is unamerican about tellint the truth?
487shawn 3 months ago 20
@487shawn
Saying that those socialist welfare states are better in creating possibilties for their citizens to fulfill the american dream is pretty antiamerican imho.
sadohenker 3 months ago
I heard they are trying to set up Alex Jones and his listeners as domestic terrorist. 2big scary terrorist's in a row, both under the "influence " of Infowars. This is getting interesting
sailfished 3 months ago
@sailfished
I also heard that in 2012 the only place American votes would be counted would be on their phones as they are pushing the buttons to vote for their favorite circus freaks on Dancing with the Stars.
biorgymd 3 months ago
Just B4 the dude says "Militarization Of OUR Police Departments " my Computer Go's Blank !! WEiRD .. 1:58
oicub2 3 months ago
woo free preview of xfinity!
jump on that shit mox
cowpacino 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
MSNBC is for faggots
TheMarksmenCat 3 months ago
[Orignal full version] 1 Marine vs. 30 Cops (By. J. handy)
/watch?v=WmEHcOc0Sys
megamogx 3 months ago
Your rights were sold out on 9/11 because sheep do not need them....
megamogx 3 months ago
It was only a matter of time before they started spreading some of that democracy at home.
chocomalk 3 months ago 18
@chocomalk Comment of the day =)
BIGHAIRYSILVERBALLS 3 months ago
BLOWBACK
michaelmacfee 3 months ago
'OWS movement exposes police state in US' sad but true. won't get anywhere by voting in George and Obama Bush.
countupir 3 months ago
Yep, we've been a police state, now the public gets to see it in front of a bunch of HD cameras.
>:(
iTellYouNoLie 3 months ago