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  • looks pretty sick, coming from a sony user.

    From what i see, Forza 3 has more of a "light" game, better for drifting and stuff. Makes it fun and realistic.

    GT5 (Prologue) has a much heavier feeling. I personally like both. I find it hard to compare which is a better game when one focuses on reality (visuals physics etc..) and another focuses on (gameplay.. sorry if i can't up with more, I haven't played the game)

  • looks a lot like shift! but it suck more than shift!

  • mrdriftking23 your vary right !!!!!

  • this game blows balls just like how my aero-master electric fan does

  • this game is shit

  • @Spaatt Your missing a word, it should be "This game is THE shit."

  • Mark my words: Forza2 is still king

  • I couldn't care less about some lack of driver shift animation. Real forza fans use bumper view.... but the game is so crippled in everything I don't know where to start. For a starters: Where the hell did simulation go? This game is for all the noobs who couldn't handle a driving game in the first place. Dan should have told the fanbase so instead of all his bullshitting about it being "the definate experience".... I have already returned it after a weeks play (i raped it at no aids/hard ai)

  • people say that forza 3 feels like a sim.its not the way ur playing it. steering wheel view is for pros.bumper view is for hoes do u drive ur real ride in bumper view.let me guess nope u drive it behind the steering wheel like everybody else in this world.

  • Driving in the real world you have a much better view than you do on a TV screen. bumper view gives you a clear view of the road, something youd have driving a real car, and you see the tach easier than cockpit view.. I mostly play in cockpit for fun.. but if im trying to actually race id rather use bumper.

  • If the cockpit view was actually situated so you could...see the rearview mirror and the driver's head moved took look further ahead in the turns, it'd be fine (like in hairpins you'd be pretty much looking through the side windows)

  • bad car choice

  • Forza3 is for kids. Its watered down for the mindless masses. The "new" tracks are straight out of a child's cartoon. Background objects are placed in jumbled messes just for the sake of filling up space. "Fantasy" tracks don't have to look like a ten year old designed them.

    The franchise is losing its simulation edge while trying to cater to the casual player. Must we really drive the same old group of tired out tracks yet again? Wait a year for the price to drop before buying this.

  • i play this game always in the steering wheel view in manual/w clutch but what i hate is the driver never takes his hand off the wheel to shift gears. dont that suck everybody.NOW in NFS shift he does it like u suppose to.

  • wooow, that's a really good legit reason to drop this game and get a fail NFS game instead!

  • DAM wtf is up with nfs haters i never said i fucking stop playing it so get ur facts straight and if u r going to bitch i dont wanna fucking hear it so dont comment back.i just fucking if it was realistic like what people said how come it looks like bullshit in steering view.and if u have shift and dont like it then fucking get rid of it.

  • Sorry, I had to reply. But your comment made my day, "MrDriftking23" :D

  • 1 question how far r u in forza 3 the reason why is have u seen any night time racing yet . or do u know if it is in there.

  • "MrDriftKing23", it's because these cars use the paddle gear shift system, and the paddles are BEHIND the wheel.

  • even on cars that doesn,t have paddles on the wheel i can understand on the cars that do.but come on they could of fix it both ways.HELL look at nfs shift they did it both ways.thats the only reason the way i fells that forza 3 is not a sim but every thing else is good on it.i seems that nobody can make perfect games the reason if they did they will never be furture titles for them

  • @Bozguyon That looks like a Ford GT and there is no paddle shifting in it.

  • @EvilKratos89 thats couse he doesnt have internet when it came out there was a update for that problem -.-

  • @10svenk ? lost with ur comment, but ill say this. The Ford GT does not have paddle shifters(in real life) and I do know that when FM3 came out the guy(in cockpit view) did not act like he was shifting until the update.

  • Sad to say, but forza3 is arcade rubbish compared to forza2. I expected things to improve - not dumb down. You'll get 720p, 60fps and high poly cars, but the tracks are exactly the same (or uglier) and the simulation part is thrown out the window. Online modes suck too. I will stick with forza2. :(

  • forza 3 with cockpit view and manual ownz with realism

  • is this game better or more fun than nf2 shift?

    nf2 shift was intense how real it was but i didnt find it fun..

  • i think only Tdu had that option to adjust your seating position.....

  • Wow Forza 3 is awesome it's just like NFS shift. I can't wait to play.

  • Forza is only race game with tuning thing...

    GT5 : 1000+ Cars : Tuning Engine  : Real Drive Simulator

    wanna race game...choice GT5 what u want more?

  • honestly, it looks extremely arcadish.

  • @dukviper90

    and it is!

  • Its not, i just got mine and it one hell of a game. i rated a 9.5 out of 10. Better than commputer sims imo. I can't wait to see what GT has to offer.

  • but the pilot, the hands from the steering does not move? how do you shift gears if not move your hands?? ahahahah this is a game of shit

  • omg for the 10 millionth time here goes the GT5 vs Forza 3 rubbish AGAIN...360 ppl u cant say ur game pwns GT5 because GT5 ist EVEN OUT YET!

  • matematika ot kai ci?

  • Need for speed is better cause have better graphic

  • if test drive unlimited 2 comesthen id say fuck forza and gran turismo

  • Eh..... GT5 is better, only thing Forza got on it is customization.

  • Looks like its just another arcade racing game, the cars are glued to the track and move so smoothly.

  • Then what is a great sim, if this is horrible?

  • gtr gt legends gtr 2 rFactor LFS gtr racing and many more

  • I meant console wise. I know definitely that GTR, and rFactor are amazing sims. But Finrokr thinks this is just another arcade, when it is probably GTs biggest competitior

  • yeah :-)

  • it's a shame you can't adjust the cockpit view to be able to see more of the interior. Like you could do in Test Drive Ulimited.

    I've been playing grid whilst waiting for Forza 3.

    Great game, though driving physics in Forza are truly unbeatable.

  • theres a trick to adjusting the cockpit view actually, it has just been descovered, it has to do with the multi screen setup, i would explain it but its 4 in the morning here and im going to bed.....

  • Can You explain it sometime because it looks too close to the wheel

  • YOu say its a 3 screen setup, when its not. Then you adjust the degrees in the menu settings, so you can adjust how far or close you are to the steering wheel.

    Supposedly called the FOV trick. It actually works really well.

  • go to multi screen on FM3,

    set screen to "center",

    set host on,

    leave degrees to 0.0, and

    set FOV anywere above the default 60

    (like somewere around 75 or 85 IMO)

  • i have downloaded the FM3 demo on xbox live and the graphics are a lot better than shown on this video. and the gauges move

  • Don`t like the interieur. the tachometer doesn't move at all...... I#m a lil bit disappointed

  • well it does move play the demo, and the graphics are great, buy the game!

  • LOL @ using Racing Line.....

  • No damage???

  • thers damage, play the demo, this is the greatest racing game ever made period

  • nice! I want it!!!

  • Until march when GT 5 steals that title of greatest racing game.

  • Well, this looks poor.

  • demo was very dissapointing, no shift animation and the you're sitting to way to close on the steering wheel 'granny style' bah

  • i hated their being no shift animation too!

  • I expected better than this excuse of a cockpit from Turn 10...

  • perhaps there will be an update to include shift action

  • wow so need for speed shift n gran turismo 5 managed shift action but turn 10 couldnt? what a fukin let down

  • I'm sure Turn 10 can do it, but they would need time to do it because it's not a simple fix. Then the game release would be delayed. I'm sure you don't want that to happen, do you?

  • That's ok... I wouldn't mind. Great things are not rushed! What they need is for you to see further back and shift animation.. and I think that's it, rest of the game looks great.

  • did you know that forza 3 actually shows off hgher-poly models in the menus and pulls the poly count down on the tracks?

    you can even count the vertices of the headlights (17)

  • fuck ads

  • DAMN where are the shift animations..........?!

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  • I think there isn't any because he used automatic transmission.

  • Oh, I really hope that is the case!!!

  • idk bcuz in the demo there isnt any no matter what u do... nd even in a ggood realistic game (not saying forza iznt bcuz i love that game with all my heart and i preordered the limited edition lol) it should have shift anymation period. and choosing manual or automatic should only change the way U play

  • I know some Turn 10 staff on xbox live and through Forza Forums. The reason there's no shift animation is because there were problems with it. The problem was that when the driver shifted the hand would go through the steering wheel, which created a really sloppy effect. To you, it might sound like an easy fix, but if it was an easy fix they would've fixed it right? Besides they scrapped the idea because it would take too long to fix before the deadline and release and cause delays in release

  • damn that really sucks thanks now it can atleast stop botherin me... hopefully they put it in the next 1 cuz its a really sick feature

  • But can they fix it later on and make it a free thing that you download? Plus I waant to see the entire cockpit! not just the top quarter of the wheel and a window.... :( I love this game but it broke my heart

  • as far as i know, the full view has been cut from the demo to reduce the space of the demo.

    so i think it will be in the full game

  • I really hate to break this you :[

    It's been confirmed on the Forza Forums that the demo is the final cut/ version of the game

  • Slavoid, I doubt it will be fixed. You have to remember that the Xbox 360 is using 4 year old technology. Not everything people want can be included in the game. Be happy that they were able to do so much on an xbox, while some of the newest gaming computers might have trouble doing the same thing.

  • thanks

  • I just got NFSS 2 days ago , and man does the physics suck ass. I just went back to Forza 2. Can't wait for 3.

  • why dont u return the game

  • of course its an arcade BUT if u like a mix of simulator and arcade its so perfect................like mcla is to arcadey and forza is to much of a simulator NFSS is a perfect mix ...in my opinion?

  • NFS Undercover is worse :-) I played that game for exactly 10min...I drove around and never used my brakes...OH look a 180 degree turn, just click my handbrake and voila !

    Forza is just the most beautiful racing simulator ever made...

  • damn cant wait for this game to come out

  • lol a 6500 redline! hahahaha

  • Yeah NFSS obviously has good graphics and will be fun I'm sure, but Forza takes the cake when it comes to realism as far as racing goes. I do admit the in car view for NFS looks really good, but that's not all I'm concerned about.

  • omfg GT5 prologue is still better than forza 3 even test drive unlimited looks better than this piece of shit

  • test drive unlimited? dont compare a shitty arcade game to this. you faggot.

  • This game will dominate NFSS. The people who made this game did their homework and Forza 1 and 2 are proof of that. NFSS will be another arcade game with lame physics, pretty much gauranteed. I dont even want to compare the two. I'm not saying NFS games aren't fun, but for all you true racing enthusiasts, Forza is the way to go.

  • actually it wont me a arcade racer, u would know that if u did ur homework :). it will great physics just like the forza series, plus the in-car view looks just a little better in NFSS, but only by a bit.

  • coincidence is that Need for speed: Shit did turn out to be just another arcade racer. good graphics but Dirt 2 looks better and forza 3 dominates all.

  • need for speed shift makes this game look shity

  • Unlike NFSS, this is a simulator, which is better i think. i will be getting both games anyway.

  • hmm which 1..

    shift or this

    i think shift

  • yeah definitely shift, the rear view mirrors alone, make a huge difference in gameplay and the motions in-cockpit graphics better more real..oh man so many factors, surely shift :D

  • i think not

  • u think wrong

  • i think correctly, and you can ask people. Mostly everyone agrees that shift will be good, but forza 3 will be better.

  • nah they said shift will be better

    forza meh i might just check it out

  • i think u have the games backwards. you can even go on the fucking shift forums and they say forza will be better.

  • i dont give a fuck anymore

    in this vid shift has better grapics

  • did u see the new pics of forza?

  • At the time of this video Forza 3 was still in development so you can't say it sucks until you actually see the finished version.

  • cool feature but i think it looks kinda hard to drive

  • Cockpit view sucks compared to nfs shift

  • you don't take your hands off to shift?

  • paddle shifters?

  • i thought of that, but does every car have them? i doubted that but maybe in the final we'll see!

  • forza 1 was great forza 2 was better forza 3 is awesome

  • pffft, forza has nothing on GT, its a just a lightweight pushover, move over for the hevyweight king the all mighty GT

  • *faints* gets back up * faints again*

    Fucking stunning!

  • The sound on this is fukn awesome! I hope Polyphany Digital learn their lesson and add real sound to GT5 like this ! woo!

  • yep, this is the REAL Ford GT engine sound. there are videos to confirm it. it sounds so fucking badass!

  • lets not forget that xbox has always been better than sony. all ps3 freezes every ten seconds the games suck. the consol its self is uglyer than well its so damn ugly i cant think of any comparison ugly enough to even desirve the same clas as the ps3 and not only that gt5 is basicly a thought on a white board some where in asia sony dosnt care enough to put funding into it to help get the project going. wile holy shit a game that not only exist but is also coming out in our life span... nuf said

  • Gran Turismo never had such good Enginesounds as Forza.

  • i disagree much

  • love the sound of a gt 40 in the morning

  • crap i asked for a videogame,not for a hd movie....xD

    this is so fuckin awesome...

  • woah, this vid is of the game when it was still i nthe alpha stages, look at the ground and car lighting and textures, they are outta whack

  • I mean I like both systems...but truthfully after the novelty of having a PS3 and GT5P wore off, it was just shitty physics and 4 tracks, 70 cars. I'm tired of the fanboy shit. How could us PS3 owners deny the fact that FM3 has more to offer. Yeah GT5 will have 1000 cars supposively. But theres no custimization too those cars and everything else Forza has to offer is better. Maybe i'll see GT5 in 2011. But until then its like PS3 owners are defending a game thats not even an actual game yet.

  • the truth has been revealed!

  • I have both a PS3 and an XBOX. I bought GT5P. Ok, 70 cars 4 tracks. No damage. No custimization, no online play. Rolling starts. I bought forza 2. With all of the above and 350 cars about 60 tracks. Ummm...to tell you the truth everyone, why the hell would I not say Forza is better. I keep hearing about GT5, GT5 but umm its not coming out till God knows when. And FM3 is out in less than 2 months. I have both and quite frankly I'm tired of the GT5 bullshit bc who knows when we will see it.

  • You're lying NittoBBS.

    GT5P DOES HAVE ONLINE PLAY!

    Not only that it can accommodate DOUBLE the amount of players that Forza 2 and or 3 can.

    BTW GT5 will be out before the end of the year.;)

  • yes but the ps3 online is shit because its free so its not a great service.

  • Do you HONESTLY believe that?

    Take a look around, hell even try it and you'll see that the service is no difference besides a few things like cross-game chat and invites. ;)

  • my god how can you say that, Ps3 online servers are more unstable than Chuk norris' kicks for gods sake

  • I take it you've never played on the PS3 then.

    Resistance: Fall of Man? Resistance 2? Killzone 2?

    Play them and tell me that there servers are unstable.

  • they lag, even if they are dedicated. yes, i have played at my friends house and i don't see how ps3 fanboys bring up dedicated servers as an advantage. sooner or later those servers go down and thats it. XBL owns PSN, and thats a fact.

  • and video chat, and the fact that even INVITING a person into the same game is akward and user unfriendly. hell, some people don't play with me cuz they don't even know how to invite LOL!

  • What a load of crap. Resistance 1, 2 and Killzone 2 don't lag.

    COD4 THAT LAGS! Resistance 1, 2 and Killzone 2 DO NOT!

    MW2 will have dedicated servers because that is the way online is going. Dedicated servers are better than P2P, that is FACT!

    And no, the servers rarely go down.

    Inviting people is awkward? Learn to use the bloody console. Not like it is made 1000X simpler by the XBL. If you have brains you can work it out in about 10 minutes.

  • load of crap is believing a ps3 fanboy when i have EXPERIENCED it myself with Killzone 2 especially. It lags. as for the inviting. yes its akward, and yes it is simpler to use on XBL.

  • Anyone can say they've 'experienced' it, the facts are if you have then you wouldn't be saying it lags. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T!

  • But i have. it has lagged with me.

  • Well then obviously you were playing on the WRONG server. Because 99.99% of matches DON'T LAG!

  • maybe they just don't like you?

  • Без сомнений Forza Motorsport 3 выглядит намного лучьше Gran Turismo 5,но это лишь мое мнеие.

  • o yes , if forza is such crap , and a total rip off , then what are you doing here watching a forza video , shouldnt you be watching gt videos ? that also proves your way of thinking , you thought , hey let me go to some forza videos and talk shit about the game , maybe i can spoil someones day , PATHETIC , well boy , ive been through worse , you dont impress me one bit , go get your hanky , cry a river , and get over yourself !

  • i dont get these games.. i drive a nissan 300z twin turbo, with fully aftermarket suspension and nitto nt-05 tires, and ive taken it to the track and have gone around turns like these going fast then 65mph.... this shit is soo fake when it comes to turning

  • too bad about the mirrors :(

  • gt5 fanboys make me laugh with of all the details of how forza is shit and such they know more about forza than gt5 hmph real gt5 fanboys they are talking more about forza thn gt5 tbh just remeber forzas the closest thing to a decnt rival for gt5

  • even Forza 2 can't compare to PC's sims, like say rFactor. I'm sorry but it's just too easy

    GT5P comes... well, far

    btw I hope the cockpits will look better

  • the sound is amazing its like one of those driver videos excluding the wind and road noise and when the tires screech its pretty realistic

  • Cock pit view looks shitty in Forza. Not as much details as GT5 which has cockpit view of over 1000 cars. While Forza has only 400 which can't even fit on a DVD hahaha suckers. Bluray wins.

  • gt5 drives like shit.

  • GT5 is a simulator not this Forza bullshit arcade game with fake physics. Also, compare the dashboard view of the GT5, Forza 3 has shitty details and no lighting at all. What a piece of shit.

  • HAHA forza is arcade. For your information and u can look this up if u dont believe me but forza has true physics that is unmatched to any simulator period. YOu are watching this with all the driving assists on. So yes it is easy. but u must not know shit about racing in general to making such assumptions. play your bullshit u probably dont know shit about cars anyway.

  • This shit does not compare to GT5.

  • Looks like you never played on a simulator...(Live For Speed)

    Looks like you never driven a real car to say tha gt5 is a simulator...

  • Looks like you never seen a girl naked...

    Looks like you suck cocks for breakfast...

  • Looks like your girl friend has a dick

    Looks like you don't know what you are talking about...

  • Lol, you call those mountains? Get your eyes checked buddy. You probably fuck your dad in the ass thinking it's a girl.

  • what is it then?

  • like many have said on non retarded forums

    GT is quantity, forza is quality

  • god this looks awesome. everytime he puts pressure on the accelerator you see the drivers head jolt forward and you can see the car lunge forward. looks really good

  • RIP GT5.

  • Omg i cant wait to play man...damm

  • GT2 was the best out of the GT series, the rest have just been milking fanboys,

    Don't get me wrong, visually brilliant game, but the physics are garbage, the damage is pathetic, come on, body doors falling off was so ps2, how often do you watch a race and see em wall grind then the next thing you see.. the car is still mint except it seems to be missing a door!

    If you really thing GT damage is 10 times better then Forza, you are just showing how much you're getting milked by the GT series

  • 170 cars will have 10 times better damage than forza 3 with 400 cars

  • poor gt5

  • GT series = sexy version of ridge racer

  • HAHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAH­HAHAHA..... good one. tears

  • cant wait to drift in this bad boy

  • btw hip you can look around in your car in gt5P as well, just gotta set the right analong for it, easy. i'll def get this but i also think gt5 will kill it

  • damn i hope you can take the tach off the screen, that shit is dumb in cockpit view

  • Wont be getting it.. looks a bit more like an arcade game like Forza 2.. graphics look choppy, hopefully will be polished up. . Rill on GT5! Had enough of these crappy racers

  • I just lol'd..

  • Stick to your bumper-car GT, no-wonder you don't like Forza

  • GT has damage now :)

  • For only 170 cars, Still no Physics damage?, it taken them over 4 years just to get this far.

  • In the full game there will be more than 800 cars, and they have now added lamborghini and bugatti, so still more to come, and damage and cockpit view for all

  • You still don't get it. The full game will have 1000 cars, only 170 will have damage, the other 830 are from GT4, do some research.

  • you do research, asshole, all cars will look the samein gt5, it dosent mean that they are ported directly from gt4, all cars will have damage, only 170 will have COSMETIC damage,the rest have INTERNAL damage, learn before you look like dick in front of everyone.And we also have youtube replay output and guess what? we have car washes!!!!

  • Car washes....that just makes everything better....God I love washing cars that I can't touch...:P

  • : )

  • Ha Ha, Kaz himself, said that 170 will have damage and that from the 830 most will be from GT4, Youtube output?, Forza 3 has an ingame video editor from which you can upload. GT5's damage is still whack, bumpercars with no realisitc effect. Forza 2 has better damage, each part of the car get's scratched and dented, glass, lights shatter. AND it had physics damage!(TWO YEARS AGO!!!) Car wash!!!!, In Forza the cars actually get dirty by driving them!!!

  • i seriously think you haven't play any gt game.....

  • I was a serious fan, but after Forza, I relised that GT was just using the "simulator" title as a joke.