You young drummers sorry at tomes don't know shit!!!!! Not as powerful as musical as Dennis. Wow. Watch a video on Dennis saying how vinnie was such an inspiration and even more big influence. And how vinnie. Floored him with his playing. That he had never heard any drummer like vinnie. He is the man that the men we watch watched!!!
Most of you watching this have no idea how to count this, so it's wasted on you. It's like having most westerners listen to tabla beats and expecting them to digest and appreciate something of a senior nature in a musical conversation. End
Vinnie possesses an unbelievable and unreachable combination of all the attribites of great drummers------technical virtuosity, perfect meter, blinding speed, unreal coordination/independence, impeccable taste,dynamics, originality, musicality and GROOVE! There are some drummers out there that may be better than Vinnie at one or two or even three of these categories, but I don't know if anyone on the planet can match the COMBINATION of all of these things the way that Mr. Coliuta has.
The guy makes a lot of music with a lot of different artists on a daily basis. Vinnie is drum culture personified, a combination of wisdom, taste and attitude.
It is my dream to one day play as good as this man . . .
It is my reality that one day I will play as good as this man. I'll do whatever it takes, even if it means going to the man himself in any way possible! HOT DAMN THIS DUDE CAN PLAY!
Travis Barker would come all over himself and be rendered unable to clean up his own mess if he had to play some of what Vinnie played when he was with Zappa. Plus the comments about drummers being all different is right. That's the fun of it - being to here all these different interpretations. Check out Terry Bozzio's "fortress" drum setup (another Zappa alum), and see how many rock drummers can handle that (all apologies to Neil Peart, whom I love as a drummer)
Vinnie's great but the sound quality of this video does not do him justice. Videos are good learning tools but watching these great players live is the ultimate learning experience. Nothing compares to a live performance particularly in club close up scenario.
Firstly there's no such thing as the BEST drummer ever. The beauty of music is the variety of interpretation. Obviously one needs good technique to create but it doesn't end there. It's just a means and a tool to interpret but there's the danger of having too much of it n losing the musicality of it all. Vinnie has evolved thru the yrs n swingin more & his groove is even fatter. He's gotten away from the fusion tech aspects, focused more on the essentials of groove n swing at such a hi level.
I had this argument over and over about TB being compared to obviously better drummers. I personally think it's TB making these silly statement about himself under pseudo name(s). TB is still recuperating from his plane crash, and has the leisure time to make these silly comments - comparing himself to drummers like Tony Royster, Roy Bruner, Aaron Spears, and even today, Vinnie Coliauta.
I had this argument over and over about TB being compared to obviously better drummers. I personally think it's TB making these silly statement about himself under pseudo name(s). TB is still recuperating from his plane crash, and has the leisure time to make these silly comments - comparing himself to drummers like Tony Royster, Roy Bruner, Aaron Spears, and even today, Vinnie Coliauta.
I had this argument over and over about TB being compared to obviously better drummers. I personally think it's TB making these silly statement about himself under pseudo name(s). TB is still recuperating from his plane crash, and has the leisure time to make these silly comments - comparing himself to drummers like Tony Royster, Roy Bruner, Aaron Spears, and even today, Vinnie Coliauta.
@JoeJacari JAJAJAJAJAJAJA...Ok now, go to smoke some more joints and then post more of this surreal contents of yours. HILARIOUS!!!! JAJA...Baker...JAJAJAJAJA
Travis is a good drummer but not in the same universe of Vinnie, Brian Blade, Gadd, Bill Stewart, Jack de Johnette, Roy Haynes, Alex Acuna, Erskine, early Cobham, Narada Michael Walden to name a few. With the exception of Roy Haynes, the legendary jazz drummer who sounds better today then ever at 85 yrs old, all the above drummers have done all types of recordings. They set the standard for ALL idioms of music today including jazz. TB is not in that eschelon. Speaks for itself.
I have to say,I don't get it. I'm a guitar player, maybe that's why."The Greatest" s
soloing,and I'm just not that blown away. *For Me* there's not a whole lot of sonic variety,I sure hear a boatload of snare and cymbals, butweak tom sounds. I don't get it. I checked out a lot of his videos,tons of snare and cymbals sounds. This dude, /watch?v=Ebuy0Rm5PlQ, has loads of different sound. I can't imagine him not being able to copy Vinnies soloing. I wonder if Vinnie could copy him?
Copy solos? That's good for practice n transcribing/analyzing but to use it for measuring your chops is real sad. Have you seen Vinnie live w Herbie Hancock? Guess not. To copy other dummers is the saddest concept of fulfilling one's ego. Check out Brian Blade and you tell me if this guy can play any type of music, bebop, reggae, fusion. funk, N.O. second line,avante garde, folk, rock, r&b and Latin/Brazilian. He played w Herbie to Joni Mitchell to Seal. He's the real deal.
I gained a deep appreciation of Vinnie when I heard him play in a variety of genres. Specifically w/ Rene Olstead (jazz), Alejandro Sanz(Latin Pop),Faith Hill(country). Of all the great session players like Gadd,Harvey Mason and others I find him to be outstanding. With Olstead he played to the level of the very hippest jazz players like Jeff Hamilton. W/Sanz likewise. Meaning the stuff he plays within these various genres is so deep(read authentic) within the roots of the musical forms.
The man can do it all...He is a drummer to aspire to... plays all styles and never sounds like a jazz drummer trying to play rock or vice versa. I'm been fortunate to see him play at the MD Fest and Yoshis in SF. Amazing musician
Not to engage in the argument, but I would say that Billy Cobham is a bit underrated in the general scheme of drummers. Much like Elvin Jones, to SOME, is underrated. However, Vinny C is probably not overrated nor underrated. He is one of the best, period, especially as far as flexibility and style. However, Billy Cobham, although less flexible than Coliauta is today, was way beyond his time and place in music with the Mahavishnu Ochestra and defined early fusion drumming.
Fair enough, but also be aware that by saying that (not that you're incorrect) you're also forgetting to mention that during the early Mahavishnu and fusion days Vinnie was a young teenager, just getting started. His first Drum set came at age 14.
Stop debating about drummers you silly peeps , Its not about who's better !!???? Its about the expression , of how different people hear, and interpret music . Enjoy everyones talent , listen and learn .
@lovestuff78 I'd have to agree. The drums are all all all about feel. I'd say that's true for any instrument really. Debating who's better is asinine. Some of my favorite drummers aren't as quite as technical as Vinnie(JP Gaster, Brann Dailor, Brian Mantia), but their feel is where its at, for me at least. He is a monster though.
Oneness100 s talking about Cobham is closed minded and petty for comparing the two drummers . Let Billy and Vinnie be themselves and you can get back to your books. Last I checked , breaking equipment says nothing about how good you are . If it did then Keith Moon would be the best. To say Cobaham was the best Period is total ignorance.
Cobham was the major innovator of fusion drumming and is considered by many critics as the greatest fusion drummer. PERIOD.---
Good. Sounds a lot better than "He CREATED'' fusion."
Go to Colaiuta's web site and look at his discography, note the diversity and frequency.
You make it sound like Bonham 'created' triplets...crazy. Bonham also ripped-off Joe Morello for that hand drumming solo bull shit. Cobham is not that creative a drummer, his roots are in marching band rudiments.
Vinnie will always get more complete. He's already one of the most complete drummers ever on earth, and he just gets more complete every year. It's insane. He really is the master of the drums, the teacher of the teachers :)
Agreed. I thing Gadd's real problem has been DRUGS. He was a notorious abuser (I've heard some unbelievable stories about him and his appetite.) in the 80's and it stunted is development. Even though Steve is a genius, and has contributed more to drumming than possibly anyone, he could have been even greater. Look at older videos and recordings from the 70's/80's. He played with a fire and style like no one else.
Wuidhen I listen to good drummers I don't usually have the anger build up of like the metal sucks. But yeah, bi polar is in the genes. The piss hasn't been a thing for years. Stev Gadd yes, overated. Try Erskine everything gadd is/was and then miles of subtlety or flash. Flash impossibility of Gadd is my dislike.
I disagree. The piss had to do something right? it did, the piss Hasn't hasn't what? hasn't BEEN. Hasn't been what? hasn't been a THING, and the options for what thing the piss had been is up to rrdrums110, and the thing the piss is doesn't have to be anything other than just a thing...lol i love vinnie!!!!!
I think he's a too many notes for speed not music's sake chooser especially on the double kick stuff but still he is fantastic and sounds wonderful to me in spurts. The wonderful spurt in this one for me as that intensely brilliantly executed buzz/press roll right at the end.
well ur pretty fuckin bipolar. on every other video u got some fuckin swearing and arrogance to let out and to accompany your steve gadd hatred, but here, not so much. off the piss again?
you can't say that he is the best...maybe one of the best,but the rest is just someones personal opinion..if it comes to my opinion,for me,he is on of MY top..but (also for me) chambers is god :)
correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's something along the line of FRLFRLRFFS in sixteenth-note triplets. left hand moves across the two racks, the right stays on the floor tom for the double bass illusion, and the bass is the first note of each triplet. I suppose if you tried that pattern and variations, then displaced it around the triplet pattern, you'd find it eventually.
Sure Vinnies great but there are lots of greats- some even more fluid than Vinnie...... sometimes these guys end up using so much chops that the fluidity of the solo starts to suffer- a nice alternative is Keith Carlock for instance or check out Biwandu- -Summertime in 7/8 in particular- it's here on utube- enjoy--
woof07... You are a lame ass! Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, Sting, Frank Zappa, Chaka Khan, Jeff Beck, George Duke, Joni Mitchell, John McLaughlin... Just to name a few... Called Vinnie because he wasn't "musical"... You dumb ass! Shut the hell up!
This is far from a "hit everything as fast as you can" solo. And while Gadd is great, drummers have simply improved since his time. Gadd is not the best of all time in all respects. No one is.
I don't think it's far from one...Vinnie is not a very musical soloist. He may whip out a sick groove on record, but soloing isn't his forte.
Gadd's groove has no peer. Drummers might be faster or more intricate than him, but nobody lays it down like Gadd does. Agreed on your last point, the more I think about it.
If anything, Vinnie's soloing is his best asset. Not a lot of people can pull stuff like this out of the blue as good as Vinnie can. It is very technical, but very musical. It didn't seem like a "hit everything as fast as you can" solo neither. Maybe just the end where he's rolling on the snare and afterwards.
Perhaps...personal preference I guess. As TyroneBiggimsh so delicately noted below, Vinnie's played with a top tier artist or two. I just prefer the groove-focused solos to where everything has foundation to build on. When I hear Gadd or Stanton Moore solo, it makes me want to dance. Awkwardly. :D
Anyone that says that either doesnt play the drums...or sucks at it. No drummer actually gigging would ever say that. I'm not in the mood to explain why you're so wrong, but suffice to say that millions would disagree strongly....and have a good laugh.
Vinny also went through a heavy drug phase. More or less? Doesn't matter.
Gadd is great, no doubt. The disco stuff he did in the 70's in particular, I don't know of any drummer alive today that could pull it off like he did. Sure its disco, but it was played flawlessly in every aspect.
I don't know any drummers over 50 that can hump the shit like Colaiuta.
Erskine? He'd drop from a heart attack play'n like this.
Boy, do you have a LOT to learn about Religion. you might want to read a series of books by Dr. David Hawkins.
Christianity, according to him and many other experts is not exaclty an enlightened religion, at least not what is practiced currently, since Jesus Christ didn't write the Bible. the original form of Christianity died when Jesus died. Jesus didn't FOR other people's sins, he died because the rest of society at the time didn't want to stop sinning. That's my take on the situation
Cobham can play faster than VInnie and he is over 60 and he still has much cleaner rolls/rudements around the kit and doesn't resort to cliche' triplet tom/bass fills like most rock drummers rely on.
Go do your homework. Cobham CREATED what drumming style everyone refers to as FUSION. ALL OF THE GREAT FUSION DRUMMERS LOOK TO BILLY COBHAM.
Just ask Dennie Chambers, Steve Smith, Narada, Simon Phillips, etc. THEY ALL COPY BILLY.
Cobham also made a career out of playing other rudiments, that what drumming is made up of. But triplet fills was done years ago by Tony Williams and John Bonham and has been a cliche for quite some time.
Cobham didn't create fusion, he was there, but if you do your home work- (listen to MVA),...Cobham's early shit was all paradiddles and kinda cheesy. Cobham plays more clams than any pro drummer.
Go to Wikipedia and type Billy Cobham. He played with Miles Davis who many consider to be the one of the early pioneers of fusion and Billy was right there. Billy is acclaimed by some critics to be the finest fusion drummer and one of the greatest drummers in the world. NO ONE has been able to play at the same level of intensity as what he did in the early '70's with Mahavishnu, especially what he did on the live album/concerts.
Cobham was in his late teens to early twenties in the 60's.
I know Cobham was in his 20's when he played with Miles, but it was at that time when Miles got into developing Fusion. Tony was playing more straight jazz.
Who is MA?
Cobham was the major innovator of fusion drumming and is considered by many critics as the greatest fusion drummer. PERIOD.
First off, back in the '70s, PA systems had less than perfect monitor systems. They couldn't hear each other as well in some concert settings.
Second, Mahavisnu was probably louder than most other bands, maybe second to The Who. They were LOUD.
Third, they played night after night different renditions of songs that had LOTS of improvisation, changes in the arrangements and they didn't write changes down, they just experimented nightly.
of course Billy playing paradiddles, but he is also incorporating Swiss Triplets, Ratamacues, Flams, singles, doubles, triplet (not the cliche Bonham triplets), and other kinds of rudiements, so maybe you don't hear everything that Billy was doing, plus he played faster and totally relaxed without stressing out. Go listent to Between Nothingness and Eternity to the song dreams and listen to the groove of that song. Vinnie can't play that song at that tempo, duration, power while relaxed.
I agree. Cobham and Vinnie are two different drummers. Billy was a big influence on Vinnie. I agree with Oneness100. There is no one like Cobham. I have never seen anyone play like that!
Actually, the groove from Seven Days was originally conceived by Sting when he presented HIS idea to Vinnie to come up with what is on the recording. I am sure Manu could have EASILY come up with the same or VERY similar groove. Manu has created a lot of distinguishable grooves for Sting and Peter Gabriel. Gadd came up with original stuff for Chick Corea, Steely Dan, Stanley Clarke, etc. that are CLASSIC grooves/fills/solos.
You might find the technical aspects amazing but there aren't that many melodic sounds in a drum. You need the four key elements to be there, otherwise it sounds quite empty, at least to me.
I see that your favorites is full of ONLY drum videos. Go listen to something else too, would you. We'll talk again when you're over 18.
Wow, your very quick to judge. Obviously i have no knowledge of music and life in general because i'm 15 years old, right.
This solo isn't melodic, (i am a singer also, i understand melody) and it involves technicalities that non drummers don't hear. But, the massive point you're missing is that drums are a rhythmic instrument. Solos are about creating patterns and ostinatos that appeal to the listener. Therefore, alter your hearing in order to hear not just melody, but rhythm also.
only a drum solo by a shitty drummer. a solo is just showing your technique. watch some danny carey drum solo's. he does them better than any drummer i've heard b/c he takes the song and keeps his solo in the context of the music and matches it wonderfully. parabola has an amazing one on youtube
oneness is retarded, vinnie has more of a discography than gadd, and has been wiping the floor with gadd since the 70's. go listen to the last track on joes garage where they make fun of gadd, its priceless, then vinnie brings home the bacon as always! gadd hasnt progressed, vinnie is still the 1st call guy...on the planet.
He's not tuning his drums with a jazz tuning and having been a Gretsch player and a Yamaha player, they sound different depending on the shells, hoops used, heads used as well as the tuning. Obviously Yamaha Recording Customs are birch shells vs. Gretsch Maple/Gum wood shells with different bearing edges, sealer/hoops. Yamaha RCs have a different sound. Gretsch has been used for classic jazz drummers for decades, Yamaha RCs were used more for more pop/pop jazz during the 80's.
You want intensity and excitement? Mahavishnu with Billy or Narada. They blew all of these guys away and they were in their twenties when they did it.... Sorry, but that's the truth.
I agree with nin456. Megadeth was a mistake for Vinnie. He lost a LOT of credibility with some of his fan base and I think he is trying to gain his fan base back by playing with as many of the Jazz greats. I think Dave Weckl is a better latin/jazz player. he played some really cool stuff with Mike Camillo. Plus Weckl's solo career is stronger as is his discography. Vinnie is best at pop sessions. Weckl is more deeply rooted in latin/jazz.
Vinnie ain't worrying about whatever fan base he has! He is just enjoying drumming and making a damn good living at it while enjoying different types of music. He's a consummate professional.
By the way, Weckl plays with about half the energy and excitement Vinnie plays with.
I saw a video of Weckl that was fairly recent and it was pretty intense stuff. He is definitely stepping up his playing.
Personally, there aren't many drum solos that impress me anymore. I would rather hear a great groove, nice melody lines and great interplay between the musicians.
for those that interested, go check out wolfgangsvault and go listen to some of the Mahavishnu concert recordings. Billy was doing some real insane stuff that Vinnie (no one for that matter) can do.
0:53-55 is PURE Gadd. love it.
drumbot23 2 weeks ago
This quality gave a St Anger drum sound to his drums
ter50 3 months ago
Recorded with a potato, it seems.
TheAtkinsoj 4 months ago
You young drummers sorry at tomes don't know shit!!!!! Not as powerful as musical as Dennis. Wow. Watch a video on Dennis saying how vinnie was such an inspiration and even more big influence. And how vinnie. Floored him with his playing. That he had never heard any drummer like vinnie. He is the man that the men we watch watched!!!
ediot6969 4 months ago
In strict musical terms regarding the power, dynamics and execution of a drum solo...Vinnie cannot touch Chambers.
Easleytee 5 months ago
Its Dave Weckl meets Steve Smith. Haha awesome!
Hitmanfan91 6 months ago
The Force is strong with this one.
adrianjemond 7 months ago
vinnie is the ONLY way !
think it over , all you new drummers
bregues 7 months ago
Muito inspirador!!!...eu amo esse tipo de solo.
samucaDrum1 8 months ago
That's some heavy SMG fire, followed by Gatling cannon... And the amount of ammo spent is incredible :)
thaikramom 8 months ago
Derek Roddy actually said, on his forum, that this guy's insane. Coming from DR, that's saying a lot.
AspiringRocker729 9 months ago
@AspiringRocker729 Not just roddy pretty much every drummer in existence says that.
julianisdope 6 months ago
lars ulrich has something to learn...
lorenic95 9 months ago
@lorenic95 yeah, sure he has, from the whole beginning
but even he gets fourty years back in the past , he 'll never learn vinnie' s feeling
bregues 7 months ago
Thank you!!
17drumhead 10 months ago
Joey who?
This drummer is the king!
Jellybeantiger 10 months ago
Joey who?
Jellybeantiger 10 months ago
Most of you watching this have no idea how to count this, so it's wasted on you. It's like having most westerners listen to tabla beats and expecting them to digest and appreciate something of a senior nature in a musical conversation. End
LvnAction 10 months ago
Vinnie paul
fadethetrade 11 months ago
@fadethetrade fail. he's the drummer of the great metal band pantera not vinnie colaiuta
wilshirecovers 10 months ago
sick ponytail!
jedi223344 11 months ago
Just a shame the sound is so bad...
billddrummer 11 months ago
@billddrummer What sound, I don't hear anything...
porkythepig007 11 months ago
VINNIE C IS GOD- End of STORY - The best Living Time and sense of TIME KEEPER!
robertvideo 11 months ago
Travis Barker? Seriously? Please.
jamesroywriter 1 year ago
Vinnie possesses an unbelievable and unreachable combination of all the attribites of great drummers------technical virtuosity, perfect meter, blinding speed, unreal coordination/independence, impeccable taste,dynamics, originality, musicality and GROOVE! There are some drummers out there that may be better than Vinnie at one or two or even three of these categories, but I don't know if anyone on the planet can match the COMBINATION of all of these things the way that Mr. Coliuta has.
17drumhead 1 year ago 3
@17drumhead Very well put.
beaglestink 10 months ago
boom.
xxxswoodyxxx 1 year ago
Vinne colaiuta and buddy rich are the best drummer i ever seen, fuck vinnie paul....i mean, he sucks
TheWiggen13 1 year ago
vinnie is awesome...
vinnie paul that is! fuck this shit
metaldrummer33 1 year ago
the fuckin man
murdok620 1 year ago
The guy makes a lot of music with a lot of different artists on a daily basis. Vinnie is drum culture personified, a combination of wisdom, taste and attitude.
damianrodd 1 year ago
piss poor quality
dusteroo 1 year ago
It is my dream to one day play as good as this man . . .
It is my reality that one day I will play as good as this man. I'll do whatever it takes, even if it means going to the man himself in any way possible! HOT DAMN THIS DUDE CAN PLAY!
maccadiodrums 1 year ago
Travis Barker would come all over himself and be rendered unable to clean up his own mess if he had to play some of what Vinnie played when he was with Zappa. Plus the comments about drummers being all different is right. That's the fun of it - being to here all these different interpretations. Check out Terry Bozzio's "fortress" drum setup (another Zappa alum), and see how many rock drummers can handle that (all apologies to Neil Peart, whom I love as a drummer)
alohatravel1 1 year ago
Vinnie's great but the sound quality of this video does not do him justice. Videos are good learning tools but watching these great players live is the ultimate learning experience. Nothing compares to a live performance particularly in club close up scenario.
partidoalto1 1 year ago
Firstly there's no such thing as the BEST drummer ever. The beauty of music is the variety of interpretation. Obviously one needs good technique to create but it doesn't end there. It's just a means and a tool to interpret but there's the danger of having too much of it n losing the musicality of it all. Vinnie has evolved thru the yrs n swingin more & his groove is even fatter. He's gotten away from the fusion tech aspects, focused more on the essentials of groove n swing at such a hi level.
partidoalto1 1 year ago
1:07 !!!!! WOOOW
nadiamatkovich 1 year ago
I had this argument over and over about TB being compared to obviously better drummers. I personally think it's TB making these silly statement about himself under pseudo name(s). TB is still recuperating from his plane crash, and has the leisure time to make these silly comments - comparing himself to drummers like Tony Royster, Roy Bruner, Aaron Spears, and even today, Vinnie Coliauta.
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I had this argument over and over about TB being compared to obviously better drummers. I personally think it's TB making these silly statement about himself under pseudo name(s). TB is still recuperating from his plane crash, and has the leisure time to make these silly comments - comparing himself to drummers like Tony Royster, Roy Bruner, Aaron Spears, and even today, Vinnie Coliauta.
fnkdrmmr 1 year ago
I had this argument over and over about TB being compared to obviously better drummers. I personally think it's TB making these silly statement about himself under pseudo name(s). TB is still recuperating from his plane crash, and has the leisure time to make these silly comments - comparing himself to drummers like Tony Royster, Roy Bruner, Aaron Spears, and even today, Vinnie Coliauta.
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I like this guy but Travis Barker's a little better.
There's a new evolutionary breed of drummers led by Barker and Co. They're setting the bar really high but this guy's OK.
Travis Barker. Look him up. Know him. Love him. Real.
JoeJacari 1 year ago
@JoeJacari hahahahaha are you being serious?
vtmike13 1 year ago
@JoeJacari
Another idiotic post from JoeJacari.
Stop trolling all the great drummers videos. Barker sucks ass and you aren't converting anybody. Learn something about drums then try to debate.
TVOham 1 year ago 5
@TVOham Amen
BlindedByTheLight17 1 year ago
@JoeJacari JAJAJAJAJAJAJA...Ok now, go to smoke some more joints and then post more of this surreal contents of yours. HILARIOUS!!!! JAJA...Baker...JAJAJAJAJA
JUANREVI 1 year ago
@JoeJacari
Travis is a good drummer but not in the same universe of Vinnie, Brian Blade, Gadd, Bill Stewart, Jack de Johnette, Roy Haynes, Alex Acuna, Erskine, early Cobham, Narada Michael Walden to name a few. With the exception of Roy Haynes, the legendary jazz drummer who sounds better today then ever at 85 yrs old, all the above drummers have done all types of recordings. They set the standard for ALL idioms of music today including jazz. TB is not in that eschelon. Speaks for itself.
partidoalto1 1 year ago
@partidoalto1 what about dave weckl?
018975 6 months ago
@018975 weckl cant swing like this cat. weckl is a rather boring session drummer in comparison. to me weckl is all technique,no soul.
loveisthelaw20042004 1 month ago
@JoeJacari Are you even a drummer?
drummingtothesky 9 months ago
@JoeJacari You clearly have no idea what you're talking about...
MarkDavidRaford 4 weeks ago
I have to say,I don't get it. I'm a guitar player, maybe that's why."The Greatest" s
soloing,and I'm just not that blown away. *For Me* there's not a whole lot of sonic variety,I sure hear a boatload of snare and cymbals, butweak tom sounds. I don't get it. I checked out a lot of his videos,tons of snare and cymbals sounds. This dude, /watch?v=Ebuy0Rm5PlQ, has loads of different sound. I can't imagine him not being able to copy Vinnies soloing. I wonder if Vinnie could copy him?
guitarguy10000 1 year ago
@guitarguy10000
Copy solos? That's good for practice n transcribing/analyzing but to use it for measuring your chops is real sad. Have you seen Vinnie live w Herbie Hancock? Guess not. To copy other dummers is the saddest concept of fulfilling one's ego. Check out Brian Blade and you tell me if this guy can play any type of music, bebop, reggae, fusion. funk, N.O. second line,avante garde, folk, rock, r&b and Latin/Brazilian. He played w Herbie to Joni Mitchell to Seal. He's the real deal.
partidoalto1 1 year ago
Coordination and independence. Understanding time. Communication.
That's Vinnie. I have a sheet of one of his seminars (loong time ago) about odd times.
It's amazing how he understands time and it's divisions
fabydima79 1 year ago
I could break down what it is Vinnie is doing here, but believe me, it's not ONE PERCENT of what this monster is capable of!!!
But he's concentrating on 'saying something' here, not just technique. And that's the way it should be. Kudos to the Colaiuta! :D
givinitsome 1 year ago
for a sec there i thought he was playing on the drum rims !!! lol !!..the sound quality is terrible !
blica1 1 year ago
I'm a big fan of Vinnie Colaiuta, and have been for some time now.
But I've never known how to pronounce his name :L
Can anyone help me out here?
ManginiFan95 1 year ago
@ManginiFan95 vinnie col-ey-uta
Bentoss612 1 year ago
@Bentoss612 hahaha thanks heaps
ManginiFan95 1 year ago
@ManginiFan95 haha yeh. 's a tough one
Bentoss612 1 year ago
@ManginiFan95 You should be italian or spanish to pronounce it properly... lol
Greetings from Florence-Italy
fabydima79 1 year ago
@fabydima79 haha yeah you're right
not with my aussie accent:(
Greetings from Brisbane-Australia :D
ManginiFan95 1 year ago
pssh i can do that
ThatDrummerTrent 1 year ago
Vinnie is amazing and i respect his music but i have to say that dave weckl is better, even though vinnie is a god.
upyoursorelse 1 year ago
one word "smoooooooth".
forsberg2007 1 year ago
Vinnie is the man- deep rhythm and groove and (when he wants) polyrhythms out the yin yang!!!
check out this solo by the author of
"The Book of Funk- grooves for snare, bass
and hi hat"
search:
"Drum Solo in 3 Movements"
davelewitt 1 year ago
I gained a deep appreciation of Vinnie when I heard him play in a variety of genres. Specifically w/ Rene Olstead (jazz), Alejandro Sanz(Latin Pop),Faith Hill(country). Of all the great session players like Gadd,Harvey Mason and others I find him to be outstanding. With Olstead he played to the level of the very hippest jazz players like Jeff Hamilton. W/Sanz likewise. Meaning the stuff he plays within these various genres is so deep(read authentic) within the roots of the musical forms.
musicalala 1 year ago
vinnie is the definition of drumming
metaldrummer12345 1 year ago
The man can do it all...He is a drummer to aspire to... plays all styles and never sounds like a jazz drummer trying to play rock or vice versa. I'm been fortunate to see him play at the MD Fest and Yoshis in SF. Amazing musician
DWDave67 1 year ago
great drumming from Vinnie as usual ... unfortunately one of the worst drum sounds i`ve heard in a while
sweetfly66 1 year ago
your gay
meandme850 1 year ago
so many great drummers. he is one of them
doubts 1 year ago
Not to engage in the argument, but I would say that Billy Cobham is a bit underrated in the general scheme of drummers. Much like Elvin Jones, to SOME, is underrated. However, Vinny C is probably not overrated nor underrated. He is one of the best, period, especially as far as flexibility and style. However, Billy Cobham, although less flexible than Coliauta is today, was way beyond his time and place in music with the Mahavishnu Ochestra and defined early fusion drumming.
PositivelyBored 1 year ago 7
Fair enough, but also be aware that by saying that (not that you're incorrect) you're also forgetting to mention that during the early Mahavishnu and fusion days Vinnie was a young teenager, just getting started. His first Drum set came at age 14.
sirotahaggen 1 year ago
IN COLAIUTA WE TRUST
NUSHMIKE 2 years ago
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dantean 2 years ago
This is awesome@ Brilliant drumming at its best in my opinion.
TheMapexDrummer11 2 years ago
Vinnie ur awesome just heard of him today! XD
JessaTehMessa34 2 years ago
Fuck me... that is the most BRUTAL double stroke roll at the end i've ever heard!!!!!!!
thehoffa 2 years ago 2
Vinnie is the way, follow him.
trendyjon 2 years ago 29
Stop debating about drummers you silly peeps , Its not about who's better !!???? Its about the expression , of how different people hear, and interpret music . Enjoy everyones talent , listen and learn .
Vinnie is a blessing .
lovestuff78 2 years ago 72
@lovestuff78 I'd have to agree. The drums are all all all about feel. I'd say that's true for any instrument really. Debating who's better is asinine. Some of my favorite drummers aren't as quite as technical as Vinnie(JP Gaster, Brann Dailor, Brian Mantia), but their feel is where its at, for me at least. He is a monster though.
undeadninja 1 year ago
@lovestuff78 Yep I agree. This, "my drummer can beat up your drummer" crap is stupid. Stop the nonsense and enjoy.
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stretch54 2 years ago 2
Oneness100 s talking about Cobham is closed minded and petty for comparing the two drummers . Let Billy and Vinnie be themselves and you can get back to your books. Last I checked , breaking equipment says nothing about how good you are . If it did then Keith Moon would be the best. To say Cobaham was the best Period is total ignorance.
Hillomonster 2 years ago 4
Which show is this?
replay707 2 years ago
Cobham was the major innovator of fusion drumming and is considered by many critics as the greatest fusion drummer. PERIOD.---
Good. Sounds a lot better than "He CREATED'' fusion."
Go to Colaiuta's web site and look at his discography, note the diversity and frequency.
You make it sound like Bonham 'created' triplets...crazy. Bonham also ripped-off Joe Morello for that hand drumming solo bull shit. Cobham is not that creative a drummer, his roots are in marching band rudiments.
generatrix999 2 years ago
Accept the fact, Cobham has not improved through the years, whereas Colaiuta keeps getting better and is actually in his prime right now IMO.
generatrix999 2 years ago 3
Amen to the video description!
BoundInChains 2 years ago
Vinnie will always get more complete. He's already one of the most complete drummers ever on earth, and he just gets more complete every year. It's insane. He really is the master of the drums, the teacher of the teachers :)
SinisterSkip 2 years ago
got the Gadd fill going at 0:54
awesome
drumbot23 2 years ago
Gadd's reached a plateau (awhile back even) and hasn't gotten much better, if any better at all.
Colaiuta is stronger now than he was when he was 30. he's got more power, more licks.
generatrix999 2 years ago 3
Agreed. I thing Gadd's real problem has been DRUGS. He was a notorious abuser (I've heard some unbelievable stories about him and his appetite.) in the 80's and it stunted is development. Even though Steve is a genius, and has contributed more to drumming than possibly anyone, he could have been even greater. Look at older videos and recordings from the 70's/80's. He played with a fire and style like no one else.
jerrywitaj 2 years ago
Wuidhen I listen to good drummers I don't usually have the anger build up of like the metal sucks. But yeah, bi polar is in the genes. The piss hasn't been a thing for years. Stev Gadd yes, overated. Try Erskine everything gadd is/was and then miles of subtlety or flash. Flash impossibility of Gadd is my dislike.
rrdrums110 2 years ago
There wasn't an actual sentence in there. Just thought you should know.
TheZooCrew 2 years ago
I disagree. The piss had to do something right? it did, the piss Hasn't hasn't what? hasn't BEEN. Hasn't been what? hasn't been a THING, and the options for what thing the piss had been is up to rrdrums110, and the thing the piss is doesn't have to be anything other than just a thing...lol i love vinnie!!!!!
sgtpeppero 2 years ago 3
Technically yes, but it's a nonsensical statement..."The piss hasn't been a thing for years." Well, PISS is a THING, right?
TheZooCrew 2 years ago 2
I think he's a too many notes for speed not music's sake chooser especially on the double kick stuff but still he is fantastic and sounds wonderful to me in spurts. The wonderful spurt in this one for me as that intensely brilliantly executed buzz/press roll right at the end.
rrdrums110 2 years ago
well ur pretty fuckin bipolar. on every other video u got some fuckin swearing and arrogance to let out and to accompany your steve gadd hatred, but here, not so much. off the piss again?
smorgan1809 2 years ago
you can't say that he is the best...maybe one of the best,but the rest is just someones personal opinion..if it comes to my opinion,for me,he is on of MY top..but (also for me) chambers is god :)
GorbroD 2 years ago
The batle is Weckl Vs Colaiuta.
Whos the best. Is to dificult define...
julaidy 2 years ago
anyone know the foot-hand pattern at 0:17 (the tom fills)
MMMuller 2 years ago
The audio quality isn't that great, but to me it sounds like FFLRFLR played in triplet feel.
tapirdrummer 2 years ago
correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's something along the line of FRLFRLRFFS in sixteenth-note triplets. left hand moves across the two racks, the right stays on the floor tom for the double bass illusion, and the bass is the first note of each triplet. I suppose if you tried that pattern and variations, then displaced it around the triplet pattern, you'd find it eventually.
cowtippervt1 2 years ago
Did someone mention SIMON PHILLIPS,
now thats touching souls.
trendyjon 2 years ago
the audio sounds like he's playing a bunch of marching snare drums..... not too helpful....
gkiapos 2 years ago
he's good, but nothing to indicate the best and most brilliant ever, sorry
hock3ydud3 2 years ago
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miask8er 2 years ago
who cares...
Francislikesdrums 2 years ago 5
It sounds like him is what I think he meant. And it does. Greatly.
darkerpower 2 years ago
la raja
camilobew 2 years ago
Sure Vinnies great but there are lots of greats- some even more fluid than Vinnie...... sometimes these guys end up using so much chops that the fluidity of the solo starts to suffer- a nice alternative is Keith Carlock for instance or check out Biwandu- -Summertime in 7/8 in particular- it's here on utube- enjoy--
ambroulard 2 years ago
and what about Simon Phillips?....He started playing when he was only 12 and has been playing with all the great names ever.
Vinnie remains unique as every good musician is.
But never say that he's the only one.
And did i mentioned JEFF PORCARO?
It's not only the technique that makes a great musician....it's the groove he put in the music that can touch our souls.....that's it!
elaboratithai 2 years ago
Yeah! This is the 90's Colaiuta. The Colaiuta from the times of "I'm Tweeked! Attack Of The 20lb Pizza"
VittorioPetrina 2 years ago
Il grandissimo mito......
CarloPorfilio 2 years ago
woof07... You are a lame ass! Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, Sting, Frank Zappa, Chaka Khan, Jeff Beck, George Duke, Joni Mitchell, John McLaughlin... Just to name a few... Called Vinnie because he wasn't "musical"... You dumb ass! Shut the hell up!
tyronebiggimsh 2 years ago 4
Great drummer, but I think he and Weckl both stink badly at soloing...but then again, I'm not into the hit everything as fast as you can-solos.
Gadd. Best of all time in all respects. Just my opinion. Thanks for posting the vid.
woof07 2 years ago
This is far from a "hit everything as fast as you can" solo. And while Gadd is great, drummers have simply improved since his time. Gadd is not the best of all time in all respects. No one is.
TheLastPictureShow 2 years ago 2
I don't think it's far from one...Vinnie is not a very musical soloist. He may whip out a sick groove on record, but soloing isn't his forte.
Gadd's groove has no peer. Drummers might be faster or more intricate than him, but nobody lays it down like Gadd does. Agreed on your last point, the more I think about it.
woof07 2 years ago
If anything, Vinnie's soloing is his best asset. Not a lot of people can pull stuff like this out of the blue as good as Vinnie can. It is very technical, but very musical. It didn't seem like a "hit everything as fast as you can" solo neither. Maybe just the end where he's rolling on the snare and afterwards.
tapirdrummer 2 years ago
Perhaps...personal preference I guess. As TyroneBiggimsh so delicately noted below, Vinnie's played with a top tier artist or two. I just prefer the groove-focused solos to where everything has foundation to build on. When I hear Gadd or Stanton Moore solo, it makes me want to dance. Awkwardly. :D
woof07 2 years ago
woof07, Gad has only one solo and he's been using it over and over again since the 70's..Extremely over rated drummer IMHO
vstar6969 2 years ago
Anyone that says that either doesnt play the drums...or sucks at it. No drummer actually gigging would ever say that. I'm not in the mood to explain why you're so wrong, but suffice to say that millions would disagree strongly....and have a good laugh.
jerrywitaj 2 years ago
Vinny also went through a heavy drug phase. More or less? Doesn't matter.
Gadd is great, no doubt. The disco stuff he did in the 70's in particular, I don't know of any drummer alive today that could pull it off like he did. Sure its disco, but it was played flawlessly in every aspect.
I don't know any drummers over 50 that can hump the shit like Colaiuta.
Erskine? He'd drop from a heart attack play'n like this.
generatrix999 2 years ago
Thats true about Vinnie. He cleaned up his act thankfully and became a Christian. Say what you will about religion, but it saves lives.
jerrywitaj 2 years ago 2
Boy, do you have a LOT to learn about Religion. you might want to read a series of books by Dr. David Hawkins.
Christianity, according to him and many other experts is not exaclty an enlightened religion, at least not what is practiced currently, since Jesus Christ didn't write the Bible. the original form of Christianity died when Jesus died. Jesus didn't FOR other people's sins, he died because the rest of society at the time didn't want to stop sinning. That's my take on the situation
Oneness100 2 years ago
Cobham can play faster than VInnie and he is over 60 and he still has much cleaner rolls/rudements around the kit and doesn't resort to cliche' triplet tom/bass fills like most rock drummers rely on.
Oneness100 2 years ago
Cliche'? Cobham made a career out of playing paradiddles, which are the basis of everything he plays.
Cobham pulls more clams than any other elite-pro drummer I know.
generatrix999 2 years ago
generatrix999,
Go do your homework. Cobham CREATED what drumming style everyone refers to as FUSION. ALL OF THE GREAT FUSION DRUMMERS LOOK TO BILLY COBHAM.
Just ask Dennie Chambers, Steve Smith, Narada, Simon Phillips, etc. THEY ALL COPY BILLY.
Cobham also made a career out of playing other rudiments, that what drumming is made up of. But triplet fills was done years ago by Tony Williams and John Bonham and has been a cliche for quite some time.
Oneness100 2 years ago
I was playing music in the late 60's ,
Cobham didn't create fusion, he was there, but if you do your home work- (listen to MVA),...Cobham's early shit was all paradiddles and kinda cheesy. Cobham plays more clams than any pro drummer.
Watch some more YouTube vids.
generatrix999 2 years ago
Go to Wikipedia and type Billy Cobham. He played with Miles Davis who many consider to be the one of the early pioneers of fusion and Billy was right there. Billy is acclaimed by some critics to be the finest fusion drummer and one of the greatest drummers in the world. NO ONE has been able to play at the same level of intensity as what he did in the early '70's with Mahavishnu, especially what he did on the live album/concerts.
Cobham was in his late teens to early twenties in the 60's.
Oneness100 2 years ago
Cobham was mid/late 20's when he played w/Miles. you might be thinking about Tony Williams, who was 16 when he played w/Miles.
Go watch some clips of Cobham w/MA, you'll hear truck loads of paradiddles and clams.
Pioneer and creator are two different things. Cobham did not 'CREATE' fusion as you say.
generatrix999 2 years ago
I know Cobham was in his 20's when he played with Miles, but it was at that time when Miles got into developing Fusion. Tony was playing more straight jazz.
Who is MA?
Cobham was the major innovator of fusion drumming and is considered by many critics as the greatest fusion drummer. PERIOD.
Oneness100 2 years ago
Here is one thing that you are leaving out.
First off, back in the '70s, PA systems had less than perfect monitor systems. They couldn't hear each other as well in some concert settings.
Second, Mahavisnu was probably louder than most other bands, maybe second to The Who. They were LOUD.
Third, they played night after night different renditions of songs that had LOTS of improvisation, changes in the arrangements and they didn't write changes down, they just experimented nightly.
Oneness100 2 years ago
Fourth, MO was playing faster tempos for most of their songs than the album version, sometimes 2x or faster depending on the song.
Fifth, they are playing extremely complex time signatures.
Sixth, Cobham would change the fills all of the time.
Seventh, Cobham broke sticks CONSTANTLY. Sometimes he broke hi-hat pedals, bass drum pedals, heads, etc.
When I saw Cobham at the end of 73, he probably broke about 20 sticks and most of them flew straight up in the air like a bottle rocket.
Oneness100 2 years ago
of course Billy playing paradiddles, but he is also incorporating Swiss Triplets, Ratamacues, Flams, singles, doubles, triplet (not the cliche Bonham triplets), and other kinds of rudiements, so maybe you don't hear everything that Billy was doing, plus he played faster and totally relaxed without stressing out. Go listent to Between Nothingness and Eternity to the song dreams and listen to the groove of that song. Vinnie can't play that song at that tempo, duration, power while relaxed.
Oneness100 2 years ago
@Oneness100
I agree. Cobham and Vinnie are two different drummers. Billy was a big influence on Vinnie. I agree with Oneness100. There is no one like Cobham. I have never seen anyone play like that!
jbc6 1 year ago
vstar...Gadd is one of the greatest drummers of all time. he can play pretty much ANYthing
drumbot23 2 years ago
Even death metal? D:
BCDPRODUCTIONS1234 2 years ago
Actually, the groove from Seven Days was originally conceived by Sting when he presented HIS idea to Vinnie to come up with what is on the recording. I am sure Manu could have EASILY come up with the same or VERY similar groove. Manu has created a lot of distinguishable grooves for Sting and Peter Gabriel. Gadd came up with original stuff for Chick Corea, Steely Dan, Stanley Clarke, etc. that are CLASSIC grooves/fills/solos.
Oneness100 2 years ago
Bozio
SteveSparx 2 years ago
i wasn't calling this vid only a shitty drum solo, i was commenting on someone's comment below me somwhere.
themadtapper 2 years ago
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The Rev is much better
evannalover1 2 years ago
Wishd the sound quality was better... :(
upbeatmantis86 2 years ago 2
Vinnie is amazing, was this before he helped Zildjian design A custom?
hmongperson117 2 years ago
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Nah, check out roger biwandu summertime in 7/8- lots cooler than vinnie.
ambroulard 2 years ago
vinnie is one of roger biwandu's favourite drummers
Francislikesdrums 2 years ago
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Drum solos are boring. This instrument is not meant to solo.
Not even Vinnie's
It's true but nobody admits it!
Cheepn1s 3 years ago
BULL!
wberry00 3 years ago
Well people, straight from the horses mouth... the most narrow minded comment from a musician on youtube...
Listen mate, you may not like drum solos, thats fine, just don't dictate everyone else's opinion to us as if you know everything
phatphace 2 years ago
You might find the technical aspects amazing but there aren't that many melodic sounds in a drum. You need the four key elements to be there, otherwise it sounds quite empty, at least to me.
I see that your favorites is full of ONLY drum videos. Go listen to something else too, would you. We'll talk again when you're over 18.
Cheepn1s 2 years ago
Wow, your very quick to judge. Obviously i have no knowledge of music and life in general because i'm 15 years old, right.
This solo isn't melodic, (i am a singer also, i understand melody) and it involves technicalities that non drummers don't hear. But, the massive point you're missing is that drums are a rhythmic instrument. Solos are about creating patterns and ostinatos that appeal to the listener. Therefore, alter your hearing in order to hear not just melody, but rhythm also.
phatphace 2 years ago 2
@Cheepn1s Jeff Hamilton - A Night in Tunisia
Hopefully that satisfies your musical requirements.
phatphace 2 months ago
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only a drum solo by a shitty drummer. a solo is just showing your technique. watch some danny carey drum solo's. he does them better than any drummer i've heard b/c he takes the song and keeps his solo in the context of the music and matches it wonderfully. parabola has an amazing one on youtube
themadtapper 2 years ago
XD.Your retaredness is beyond any limit man.Pissed my pants laughing!!
McJohnGr 2 years ago
Colaiuta plays Sepultura:)
hdrumnp 3 years ago
Actually - Michael Sembello...HA!
brandonpfn 3 years ago
good, but bad quality
Feddoms 3 years ago
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dlourie 3 years ago
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neil pert is better
sdilucca 3 years ago
Neil Peart is great, but he's no Vinnie.
Tonyr0206 3 years ago
The EQ for this vid is absolutely disgusting
kirkmach32 3 years ago
oneness is retarded, vinnie has more of a discography than gadd, and has been wiping the floor with gadd since the 70's. go listen to the last track on joes garage where they make fun of gadd, its priceless, then vinnie brings home the bacon as always! gadd hasnt progressed, vinnie is still the 1st call guy...on the planet.
CaptainsOrders 3 years ago
Ever hear "hung my head"? Vinnie is a genious. Love him <3 Best drummer, but most important, he plays the best music
tiddeliti 3 years ago
He kind of looks like max weinberg...
phoneboothplus1 3 years ago
I used to think he looked like Jeff (Porcaro)
brandonpfn 3 years ago
He does! Jeff was amazing!
rohbit 3 years ago
ever heard of bass? lol
Feddoms 3 years ago 2
wow, thats great
iuricastro22 3 years ago
Have you heard the saying Jack of all trades, master at none?
Oneness100 3 years ago
gretsch sound is much better than yamaha's sound. the ressonant sound of gretsch drums is realy good!
bateradiadema 3 years ago
He's not tuning his drums with a jazz tuning and having been a Gretsch player and a Yamaha player, they sound different depending on the shells, hoops used, heads used as well as the tuning. Obviously Yamaha Recording Customs are birch shells vs. Gretsch Maple/Gum wood shells with different bearing edges, sealer/hoops. Yamaha RCs have a different sound. Gretsch has been used for classic jazz drummers for decades, Yamaha RCs were used more for more pop/pop jazz during the 80's.
Oneness100 2 years ago
You want intensity and excitement? Mahavishnu with Billy or Narada. They blew all of these guys away and they were in their twenties when they did it.... Sorry, but that's the truth.
Oneness100 3 years ago
I agree with nin456. Megadeth was a mistake for Vinnie. He lost a LOT of credibility with some of his fan base and I think he is trying to gain his fan base back by playing with as many of the Jazz greats. I think Dave Weckl is a better latin/jazz player. he played some really cool stuff with Mike Camillo. Plus Weckl's solo career is stronger as is his discography. Vinnie is best at pop sessions. Weckl is more deeply rooted in latin/jazz.
Oneness100 3 years ago
Vinnie ain't worrying about whatever fan base he has! He is just enjoying drumming and making a damn good living at it while enjoying different types of music. He's a consummate professional.
By the way, Weckl plays with about half the energy and excitement Vinnie plays with.
stretch54 3 years ago
I saw a video of Weckl that was fairly recent and it was pretty intense stuff. He is definitely stepping up his playing.
Personally, there aren't many drum solos that impress me anymore. I would rather hear a great groove, nice melody lines and great interplay between the musicians.
for those that interested, go check out wolfgangsvault and go listen to some of the Mahavishnu concert recordings. Billy was doing some real insane stuff that Vinnie (no one for that matter) can do.
Oneness100 3 years ago
Oops. can't instead of can....
Oneness100 3 years ago