CNN Western Republican Presidential Debate - Part 4

[recruitTJ]

Shut up and answer the question already...

[beaniewasthename]

Ron Paul!!!! Is a genius!

[TheHugh4893]

nobody tries to respond to Ron Paul because they know they'd lose that debate.

[fntsmk]

@TheHugh4893 No doubt about it. With age comes wisdom and we very much need Dr. Paul's wisdom now.

[DannyRuel]

@TheHugh4893 not only would they lose, they would help expose Ron Pauls Genius. They purposefully steer clear from him because they end up looking foolish. Case in point, Santorum. Every time he cheer leads war and Israel, Paul shuts him down. NO FOREIGN AID TO ALL EQUALLY. LOL

[ThePalinPatriot]

Mitt Romney is an idiot!

[sweatyshorts]

Aside from Gingrich's neocon foreign policy positions, he's a VASTLY superior candidate than Ron Paul. Obama would be destroyed in one of those Lincoln-Douglas-style debates Newt wanted.

[D0NGZ1LLA]

@sweatyshorts Newt is a massive hypocrite, do a little research and youll find all you need to know

[sweatyshorts]

@D0NGZ1LLA On what, marriage? I don't care about that. The other hypocrisy I'm aware of is the $500,000 (or is it million) debt he or his wife, or both, are in because of jewelry. What else is there? I'm genuinely curious. Obama stands ZERO chance in a debate against Newt. Obama is intellectually effete.

[RawrDinosawrM]

Perry's disrespect just makes me cringe.

[dbarer01]

even anderson takes shots at ole pointy boots

[DannyRuel]

Watch this guy lose it. Dylan Ratigan (rightfully) loses it on air. Everything he says is right except for the fact that he failed to say that Ron Paul has been the man that has been calling thecorruption for what it is. But then again MSNBC is scared to death of Ron Paul. Im voting for Paul

[DannyRuel]

The American people need to understand how things really work in the political world. A recent analysis done by the Center for Responsive Politics Shows that the Big banks are investing Big in Romney. Therefore they are trying to buy the election again with someone who will do the Banksters Bidding. And we have mindless people, who say they wont vote for Paul because the media say's "He can't win". If we are truly an indendent soverign people, we dont need media made decisions.

[fntsmk]

@DannyRuel Spot on Dan. The "Sheeple" just don't get it. And that was understandable before the advent of the Internet and search engines like Google. Prior to that, Mass Media and Gov't "fed" us the "truth" and they're still doing it today. What I don't get is why the people continue to listen to Mass Media and Gov't and let them pick our candidates for President. I cringe when I hear, "He can't win," and we need someone who can beat Obama. So eff voting on principle? Just vote for a winner?

[Eye2EyeIIIV]

Alan Keyes for president

[nujac321]

Perry did much better but he still got demolished. If you go to McDonalds and your pay to have someone to make you a burger, how are you expected to know they are illegal?

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

I wish you guys could see that Ron Paul is made out of the same shitty cheese whiz as all these other braindead idiots. He just wraps himself up in this fancy wrapper and tries to come off like he's a fine piece of cheese.

He IS honest. But that doesn't make him SMART. That's what you have to realize. he operates on a rigid, blind ideology, that skews his judgment.

His ideas are race to the bottom ideas that come from panic & desperation...and they will make America a 3rd world country.

[fntsmk]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder  Dude...,You seriously need to pull your head out of your arse.

[sincitylife]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder - He abides by the rule of law laid out in our Constitiution! The Constitution supersedes every other Mandate after it beside the Amendments. He is not the "crazy" that mass media has made him out to be. I will not be voting if Dr. Ron Paul is not on the ballot. I'm a republican and Ron Paul wants to restore our Republic. Where in the Constitution does it say that we live in a Democracy? Republic = Rule of Law. Democracy = Mob Rule.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@sincitylife

The MSM has no influence on my opinion of Ron Paul. It's what HE says, in his own words that make me think hes nuts. Stuff like "eliminating minimum wage will help the poor". Yes, because people don't really need payment...as long as they have a job...they can tell people they have a job...it's not like people have bills to pay..it's not like it's hard to pay bills on minimum wage. Besides, it's not like people spend extra money they make, and create jobs in the process.

[sincitylife]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder - It's not the Federal Govt's right to meddle with the minimum wage. The 9th & 10th Amendment clarifies this. The minimum wage issue should be left to the States because the cost of living is different in every state. Cost of living is affected by inflation. Inflation is inflicted by the Federal Reserve.

[Kangaruhs]

It's "nuCLEar" power not "nuCULar" power.

As in, power derived from the nuCLEus of an atom.

[arcanius1221]

Our Country is on "life support" - if true, then we need a DOCTOR in the WH, not a business salesman or another Lawyer. I vote for Ron Paul all the way.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@arcanius1221

Except that the country does not actually a human being with an anatomy.

And if RP operated on people as a doctor, the way he wants to operate on this country as a politician, he'd probably amputate all of someone's limbs just because they had a small laceration on one hand...or tell someone with the flu that they need to get a liver and kidney transplant.

[arcanius1221]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder and your point is? Your name says it all - you are one of them, the New World Order - NO THANK YOU. Please tell me how a New World Order will benefit the citizens of the USA?

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@arcanius1221

My name is a joke to scare and patronize dumb 19 year olds like yourself.

I don't believe in the NWO. Who the fuck needs an NWO when you have Wall St, its puppet government, and a propaganda machine like our mainstream media? That's enough. You don't need to give it a name and have meetings up in some dark castle on a cliff somewhere.

[arcanius1221]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder For one - I am not 19, I am a senior citizen. You are correct in saying we do not need a NWO.

[fntsmk]

@arcanius1221 Is there a DOCTOR in the house? You bet! Ron Paul or not at all!

[corysgood88]

yea i like how everyone is agreeing with ron paul on shit now, stealing his ideas and responses about free markets fucking romney

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@corysgood88

They aren't stealing them. Ron Paul isn't a republican for no reason. Republicans believe in giving rich people all the money and giving them no rules or accountability so they can fuck the rest of us over.

Then when all that happens, just blame someone else: democrats, the fed, immigrants, poor people, each other, ourselves....

Then morons go out and vote for them again and it all happens all over again. We've been doing this for 30 years now.

[fntsmk]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder Dude..., you've got serious problems...

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@fntsmk

No, you just have a problem with what I said. I don't have problems, I have opinions.

[Sandypfr]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder How so untrue. Do you realize that the riches people in this country are liberals? Michael Moore, Bill Gates, George Soro, etc Do do forget the big unions etc.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@Sandypfr

Lol, you act as if those people are the ONLY rich people in this country. And not all of those people are even that rich. Michael Moore doesn't have nearly as much money as Rupert Murdoch, or the Koch Brothers, or Roger Ailes do. He probably has about as much as Glenn Beck.

And I can't really picture in my head, a union leader living in some mansion and flying around in private jets.

SOME rich people are liberals. The vast majority of them aren't.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@Sandypfr

And the vast majority of rich people don't want to be well known. When you are a true innovator, who deserves his wealth, and has empathy for common people like Bill Gates, you don't have a problem being well known, or having your opinions known.

When you're just some asshole investment banker who engages in insider training and lays people off to sell companies for a bigger profit, and infiltrates our media & government...you want anonymity.

[Sandypfr]

Respond to this video... The average liberal earns more than the average republican.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@Sandypfr

Yeah, because the average liberal is smarter than the average republican. And a lot of the reason liberals think the way we do is because we've seen life from different socio economic classes...we know a lot of poor people bust their ass and get next to nothing, and a lot of rich people sit on theirs and get everything.

Rich republicans just think poor people are all lazy & stupid, and poor republicans think rich people are all hard working & smart.

[MrPenball]

Ron Paul is so popular that they cheered when Robomney admitted he was right about nuclear waste issue! lol

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@MrPenball

Haha! Robomney! I hadn't seen that one yet. Great nickname, very fitting.

[1986Sane]

Haha. Obama will slaughter of these idiots in a debate. I'd describe myself as a liberal/libertarian. the only person on that stage with half a brain is Ron Paul. but republicans won't nominate him because he speaks truth and these people seem to be allergic to la veritas

[D0NGZ1LLA]

@1986Sane actually you forget how awful obama is without a teleprompter, debates were not his strong point

[1986Sane]

@D0NGZ1LLA Seriously? Obama is a great debater. He slaughtered Hilary and McCain both. I remember 1 debate when he caught McCain completely off guard. One of the primary rules of debate is to know your opponents answers before they do and McCain asked a question which he did not know the answer to. Say what you want about Obama and his iffy policies but this whole "he can't function without his teleprompter" bull holds no water. The guys a freaking lawyer.

[jamessharick]

@1986Sane Yes but on advantage this time for whoever wins the bid, they will be able to point Obama's record at him which he won't be able to deny.

[1986Sane]

@jamessharick You are absolutely right. Obama has a very clear record with some not so impressive marks but so does pretty much everyone in politics. If I were Obama I would have a field day with Romney, Perry, and Cain. The only person on that stage I see really doing damage to Obama is Paul and there's no way he gets the nomination. He's consistent and sounds sincere. Everyone else are crowd pleasers.

[D0NGZ1LLA]

@1986Sane didn't watch hilary v obama, but mccain is hardly a good example. and he might have had a law degree, but i don't believe he practiced much. i would have to go back and watch but my guess he obama was all rheteric and no substance, full im sure of logic tricks, mccain isn't the brightest. against romney cain and definately perry, obama might win, but ron would rip him to pieces, way too much truth, substance and ideas. obama's words are empty because of his record

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@D0NGZ1LLA

Yeah, you're totally wrong. He is great in debates.

And even if he wasn't, he's going up against the most pathetic orators, and thinkers in American history.

[fntsmk]

@1986Sane I think you're half-right; Ron Paul's the best hope for our country. The part you're wrong about is Obozo being able to win a debate, even against a hampster.

[cureloms]

wow, perry is really struggling.

[justgivemethetruth]

Yucca Mountain is the place ... Nevadans ... live with it.

[justgivemethetruth]

Repeal the 14th amendment ... it is way past relevance or justice in this modern era.

[Spartan117kjk]

the...TENTH AMENDMENT. hahahahahaha he really had to think about that one

[collinr77]

Perry is making a fool of himself.

[shoelessjoe2555]

Perry is pathetic...Romney admits paul hit it on the head, then Perry says the same thing about romney...He knows hes losing, and he is trying to gain back face by kissing up. what a loser.

[shoelessjoe2555]

Perry might as well just drop out...he has no chance....he is a horrible debater, and he is what we are trying to get away from.

[shoelessjoe2555]

THe problem is that paul has no realistic chance to win. Its sad, because he would be a great president...Id definately vote for a Paul/Cain ticket.

[DannyRuel]

@shoelessjoe2555 What does Pauls Chances of winning have anything to do with how you vote? It shouldnt matter who the Media or polls say who is going to win. What matters is that you vote for the candidate that you believe will be best for your needs and your position

[shoelessjoe2555]

@DannyRuel How naive you are. Lets say Ron Paul Runs as an independent against the GOP nominee and obama. And Paul gets 8 percent, Obama gets 47 percent and the GOP gets 45 percent. Well, Obama wins! But, if all of those people would have voted for the GOP candidate, instead of Paul who has no shot, then we can unseat OBAMA. I would love for paul to win the nomination, and so would many people, but its just not going to happen. He doesnt have the money or the exposure. I will vote against obama

[DannyRuel]

@shoelessjoe2555 Im not naive at all. I just dont vote according to major Media and what polls dictate. I vote for the right candidate. If you want Ron Paul to run under GOP vote for him. What is The only reason you say its not going to happen? Is it because the talking heads and pundits told you that you cant have him? Or is it because you believe that Americans are so stupid that they will all mindlessly follow exactly what Mass Media polls dictate? Win or Lose, Ron Paul 2012.

[D0NGZ1LLA]

@DannyRuel Danny is absolutely right, i've been having this same exact conversation with tons of people, people need to say they'll vote for Ron and NO ONE else, if the republican party gives me romney perry or cain i WILL NOT VOTE and there are LOTS of us out there, and there are LOTS of independants and even liberals who will vote for ron if he is nominee and obama if he isn't, so the republican party is signing their own death warrant by fighting to keep Ron from winning thier nomination.

[DannyRuel]

@D0NGZ1LLA The American people need to understand how things really work in the political world. A recent analysis done by the Center for Responsive Politics Shows that the Big banks are investing Big in Romney. Therefore they are trying to buy the election again with someone who will do the Banksters Bidding. And we have mindless people, who say they wont vote for Paul because the media say's "He can't win". If we are truly an indendent soverign people, we dont need media made decisions.

[shoelessjoe2555]

@DannyRuel Its not the polls, its the fact that he has ran in the past 4 elections and the best hes done is 3rd.Name 1 independant who has won either the democratic or republican nomtination.....you cant. The best an independent has done EVER was Ross Perot, which if he wouldnt have done so well, Bob Dole proabably would have beat clinton. Ron paul doesnt have the money to win or exposure. Our best chance to see Paul in the white house is as a vice president, and then maybe he could run andwin

[DannyRuel]

@shoelessjoe2555 You've proven my point. So the guy with the most money is the only one who can win because they can pay the Media to help you make up your mind? Not the guy who is totally dedicated to the people and Constitution. Ponder this Joe, when a candidate has the money to gain all the exposure you claim is needed to win, do you wonder where that money came from? Which politicians are already bought and paid for? B4 u give away your vote google "Romney Campaign Bought And Paid For"

[DannyRuel]

@shoelessjoe2555 Here is a warning to all "Republicans". If you don't vote for Ron Paul the odds are Obama will win a 2nd term. Those of us who know the truth will only vote for Paul even if he isn't on the ballot. We will write him in if necessary. We already know the other establishment candidates are bought. Paul will not even compromise by taking banker money. That said, the vote will be split and more than likely Obama will win. Paul has a dedicated following. Research and see.

[shoelessjoe2555]

@DannyRuel I want Paul to win. But he doesnt have a chance. Its irresponsible to vote for him. He does have a following. But out of 120 million voters how many? 10, 20 million? And im being very liberal with that number. Most people cant even tell you who Paul is or what he stands for. Paul has an underground following mostly. And i think a Romney/Cain ticket would be just as effective as Ron paul and whoever in beating obama. Republicans have this election. It is theirs to lose.

[DannyRuel]

@shoelessjoe2555 Things are so bad in this country that people cant understand that Paul stands for individual rights? Not being totally controlled by Government? Im sorry but the only reason people dont know about paul is b/c the Media isnt giving him any time. The rest of us have done our research on Paul and all of the others. Im sorry Joe but not voting for Paul is irresponsible and if Obama wins it will be because stubborn GOP's refused to exercise due diligence and discernment.

[maxcady5]

@shoelessjoe2555 thats not true that republicans have this election. Every election, whoever polls and debates first thinks its 'their year to win' blah blah cuz its all we are talking about... Anyways, Ron Paul WOULD have more voters than any other candidate even Romney. All independents will vote for Paul, and all republicans would automatically vote for him to get barack out. Paul is the only true republican here, he wants to take government out of business. and cut pointlessmilitary spending

[DannyRuel]

@maxcady5 thats right max. He said he wants to give control of our money back to the individual and take it out of the hands of the third party.

[shoelessjoe2555]

@maxcady5 The majority of independents voted for Obama last election, Paul ran then, and hes running now. WHat makes you think they will vote for him? And Obama has done so bad as president, and pissed off so much of his base, that this is the republicans election to win. Obama was never qualified and people realize that now. All you have to do is put someone up there better than obama. Not enough ppl are going to remain loyal to obama. Even Democrats know he was a bad choice.

[maxcady5]

@shoelessjoe2555 i agree with Ron in the white house as vice president though - you make a good point

[WheresPoochie]

What's remarkable about this video is that it perpetuates the uploader's obvious support for Paul without manipulating the debate's content.

Goes to show that anyone who bothers to listen this circus of hot air will side with who's right.

[pontoufe]

NO ONE has head to head with Paul.

[jerbear82]

wow... Perry is not a good debater at all... He's not up for this challenge. What bothers me is that Paul and Romney don't have any "head to head" debates. Paul would wipe the floor with Romney on the constitution and economics. Romney would win with looks alone... sad

[sun2088]

The only person up there worthy of becoming the president is Ron Paul...

[D0NGZ1LLA]

@sun2088 well said

[nujac321]

@sun2088 He is a libertarian not a republican. He shouldn't even be on the stage.

[Kmascak1]

@nujac321

ron paul is the only true republican. the republican party has drifted too far away from their roots. And its a shame that Ron Paul wouldnt have a stage if he ran as a libertarian, then our country wouldnt even have a chance to change, and its not like the media would cover him.

[nujac321]

@Kmascak1 There is no such thing as a true republican. What republican do you know who has been elected president who wants to do away with Dept. of Education?

[fntsmk]

@nujac321 Ronald Reagan wanted to shut down the Dept. of Education. He just didn't get it done.

[nujac321]

@fntsmk Did Ronald Reagan also want to cut the defense budget?

[fntsmk]

@nujac321 He did not. RR gave me a 20% raise his first year in office a boy did I love the man for it! No, as I said earlier RR increased the Defense Budget so much he bankrupted the USSR by making them try to match our spending. Would RR argue for cuts in defense in today's political and financial climate? I believe he would. He certainly was always for smaller Gov't, he just couldn't get it done as one man. But RP CAN as one man, cut military spending by bringing the troops home.

[nujac321]

@fntsmk Ron Paul can't bring the troops home because he won't be elected.

[fntsmk]

@nujac321 I used to be anti-Paul but a friend asked me to do the research. Now, I'm Ron Paul or not at all. I've managed to bring three co-workers into the Ron Paul fold who are now spreading Dr. Paul's message to all the folks in their email address book. I'd ask YOU to do some Google and Youtube research on Ron Paul and if you will, I believe YOU will be a Ron Paul convert. If that happens, then YOU will try to convert others and IF that happens, Ron Paul will be POTUS in 2012!

[nujac321]

@fntsmk I admire your optimism. Best of luck.

[Kmascak1]

@nujac321

what good has the department of education done? it has cost us 2.5 trillion dollars, its inefficient, and the quality of education is declining. maybe there's a better way of handling it

[nujac321]

@Kmascak1 Who said I think the dept. of education has done any good?

[Kmascak1]

@nujac321

Now that i look back at your original statement i guess i just wrongly assumed. Either way, I just hope Ron Paul is elected

[nujac321]

@Kmascak1 That's ok. Actually I think the Dept. of Ed is a waste of time and money. I just think America is so deep in the bureaucratic swamp that they don't know how to downscale government. Best of luck to you and your choice for GOP nominee.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@nujac321

Libertarians are much further to the right than the left. Especially on economic issues.

He's got ideas that are so stupid they make me laugh, so he does belong up there. When AC reads off the list of all the things he wants to do away with...I feel like I'm watching an SNL skit.

Ron Paul IS honest.

But he's also a blind ideologue, which makes him retarded.

Libertarians are like liberals with a glitch in their brains that makes an otherwise smart person stupid.

[fntsmk]

@sun2088 Ron Paul or not at all! Ron Paul is our last hope for America. I believe that so much, I may vote for Obozo as a protest vote if the GOP forces Romney or Perry on us.

[Sandypfr]

@sun2088 will not vote for him. He is Anti-Isreal

[fntsmk]

@Sandypfr He is NOT anti-Isreal! He is anti-Foreign Aid BECAUSE THERE IS NO AUTHORITY IN THE CONSTITUTION TO GIVE AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS IN AID TO AN AMERICAN CITIZEN MUCH LESS A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT. WON'T YOU EFFIN' PEOPLE DO SOME EFFIN' RESEARCH BEFORE YOU MAKE AN IMPORTANT DECISION ON A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE??? Sorry for yelling. Just passionate...

[nexus10071]

I cant breath!

[mustangx218]

Another fence like the Great Wall of China???

[shanemason789]

@mustangx218 LOL!

[geno629]

We need Romney as President! I am starting to wonder why I voted for Rick Perry as gov.

[notarealnameforyou]

@geno629 wow, you're twice an idiot

[kyle051789]

Perry's dumb haha He needs to start saying what he thinks instead of just attacking Romney every time lol Doesn't he realize that the crowd is booing him every time??

[maxcady5]

@kyle051789 of course he realizes it dude he dont give a fuck..

[chrlpolk]

How cute that Perry calls it "nucular"!!!!!

[jjsjeffjjsjeff]

@chrlpolk 2 for 2 of Texas Governors.

[fntsmk]

@chrlpolk Just like "W" used to do. Is that a Texas thing?

[NomSkull]

10:13 :O

[NomSkull]

"THEY TOOK OUR JERRRRRBS"

[Bluecloudandrew]

@NomSkull DUCKAP DARRBS!!!

[Chokl8th1der]

Santorum is probably the smartest person up there which explains why he's polling so low...

[tame1999]

@Chokl8th1der Is that a joke???

[1KidsEntertainment]

@Chokl8th1der Nothing says smart like blind faith in an invisible sky daddy, and wanting to promote said sky daddy on nonbelievers.

[fntsmk]

@Chokl8th1der Rick is a smart guy but his support for spreading the American Empire and American militarism around the world is mis-guided. Our military spending is out of control, unsustainable, and will bring down our Republic if we don't reverse our policies.