somebody said it's quite possible to beat a good Sagat "if you are a really good player" meaning you should stop whining and practice harder... I suppose this is true for the part of training to get better... but in tournaments on the other hand the problem is, that people with less skill play Sagat and win. So the results are distorted. If all good players switched Sagat on the other hand, it would be more balanced, but boring as poop.
Yeah well that's the case with every game though. There is always a 'noob friendly' character, weapon, etc. I just hate how everyone calls it cheap just because they lose to it. Sagat may be high tier but he's definitely beatable.
Nothing cheap about any player that goes out and fights using an assortment of moves. Now the Sagat players who just just spam tiger shots and wait for an anti air moves are ones i consider cheap...
Honestly if you can't beat Sagat with Akuma (possibly one of Sagat's more troublesome match ups) then you aren't really good with Akuma. Akuma is one of the few characters that can out zone Sagat which forces him to play more aggressive. At that point Akuma can overwhelm Sagat with shear speed.
I am not saying that Akuma owns Sagat, but that Akuma can easily go toe to toe with Sagat.
I really hate how Sagat can link everything starting with his low weak kicks. You think someone as big and powerful as him wouldn't have that capability.
WOW, he played an awesome Akuma far superior to Sagat, but due to to the ridiculously low life he eventually lost. Hey Capcom,, patch this game already and tweak Akuma, will you?!
It's really a shame to see that Akuma player work his ass off in the last round to get him down to low health, only to be hit by a combo and a tiger upper and lose...but that's Sagat for you. room for 1000 mistakes and he only needs to punish 1 or 2.
I hate how everyone always jumps on the "fuck Sagat" Bandwagon more than ever now. If you cant beat Sagats then you cant play this game properly. Just be thankful he's not as overpowered as O.Sagat or 3rd Strike Chun.
Honestly when I look at the best players in the world I see Ryu(Daigo and Pongko), Rufus(J. Wong and Kindevu), and Akuma(Momochi).
There are a lot of Sagat players such as Mago, but generally I don't see Sagat win as much as the hype around him suggests. He is just fine. Hell Metaknight is even more unbalanced in Brawl than Sagat is in SF4.
Lets be realistic about Sagats strength here; coz although those who consider him broken are overrating him, he is absolutely the strongest.
Mago has been number 1 beyond Daigo for a few months now, and the top 50 ranks in Japan have been dominated consistenly by Sagat players since day one.
About 19 top 50 Sagat players last time I checked, which is monsterous. Second to that were Ryu players with a measly 6.
I know which list you are taking that from. That is of course in arcade BP. Also some players are counted twice so it is not the most accurate list. For instance Kindevu is counted twice for his Rufus(#11) and Viper(#17).
When we look at the top 20 we see a decent amount of Sagats, but the top is largely filled with a mix of other characters like Akuma, Ryu, Viper, Rufus, Abel, Chun Li. So from what I see, Sagat does not dominate in the way many would love to believe.
Saying that is like saying playing ANY character in this game requires no skill. l2p and get over it, Sagat may be top-tier but he isn't unbeatable like most people are under the assumption.
fuck sagat. that akuma player is working his ass off to have sagat do some bulshit and com back. Take him out of the game and street fighter starts becoming extremely balanaced.
That Akuma was a little scrubby, particularly in that last round. He had a 70% lead and he was still blindly aggressive, hence why Shady J punished him for being foolish.
When you have such a lead, there is nothing stopping you from turtling.
I agree. Sagat should be allowed in so-called "noob tournaments" and the player who picks him in real tournaments should be publicly ridiculed receiving a "sissy-of-the-day award" *g*
Thats one of the worst akuma ive ever seen.
Quingsy 2 years ago
I just wanna straighten things out and emphazise that IMHO Shady J is a decent SFIV player per se. It's just sad he relies on Sagat so much.
Hogibaer 2 years ago
you can hear cammy kicking somebody's ass in the background
FlaminTomato2 2 years ago
somebody said it's quite possible to beat a good Sagat "if you are a really good player" meaning you should stop whining and practice harder... I suppose this is true for the part of training to get better... but in tournaments on the other hand the problem is, that people with less skill play Sagat and win. So the results are distorted. If all good players switched Sagat on the other hand, it would be more balanced, but boring as poop.
Hogibaer 2 years ago
Yeah well that's the case with every game though. There is always a 'noob friendly' character, weapon, etc. I just hate how everyone calls it cheap just because they lose to it. Sagat may be high tier but he's definitely beatable.
JCrest87 2 years ago
Nothing cheap about any player that goes out and fights using an assortment of moves. Now the Sagat players who just just spam tiger shots and wait for an anti air moves are ones i consider cheap...
mxtra22 2 years ago
Honestly if you can't beat Sagat with Akuma (possibly one of Sagat's more troublesome match ups) then you aren't really good with Akuma. Akuma is one of the few characters that can out zone Sagat which forces him to play more aggressive. At that point Akuma can overwhelm Sagat with shear speed.
I am not saying that Akuma owns Sagat, but that Akuma can easily go toe to toe with Sagat.
LoyalSol 2 years ago 2
Seymour Butz...:) lol
ircjunk2004 2 years ago
what was that noise back there in the background
ImLegalHeCanHarrasM3 2 years ago
I really hate how Sagat can link everything starting with his low weak kicks. You think someone as big and powerful as him wouldn't have that capability.
ChampIDC 2 years ago
Sagat should be named Gaylord Focker...
Hogibaer 2 years ago 3
WOW, he played an awesome Akuma far superior to Sagat, but due to to the ridiculously low life he eventually lost. Hey Capcom,, patch this game already and tweak Akuma, will you?!
Hogibaer 2 years ago
250 less health than Sagat makes it really freaking rough on him, eh? I think it's a more inherent problem with Sagat than Akuma, though.
ChampIDC 2 years ago
lol Hogibaer if youre gonna tweak anyone make it SAGAT!!! lol
Jukalaboo 2 years ago
It's really a shame to see that Akuma player work his ass off in the last round to get him down to low health, only to be hit by a combo and a tiger upper and lose...but that's Sagat for you. room for 1000 mistakes and he only needs to punish 1 or 2.
SolidSnake616 2 years ago
weee some new sf4 footage. finaalllyyy.
SolidSnake616 2 years ago
omfg, cannot believe my fucking eyes with that Sagat man, well played i guess but jesus man...sooo much damage.
NathBonn 2 years ago
I hate how everyone always jumps on the "fuck Sagat" Bandwagon more than ever now. If you cant beat Sagats then you cant play this game properly. Just be thankful he's not as overpowered as O.Sagat or 3rd Strike Chun.
JCrest87 2 years ago
Close
Jukalaboo 2 years ago
not even close, O sagat kills you in like three uppercuts and 3rd strike chun li gets you to like 10% with two supers.
JCrest87 2 years ago
You know, there's a reason a "f... Sagat" bandwagon exists in the first place... :-)
Hogibaer 2 years ago
Because noobs can't win against him?
Honestly when I look at the best players in the world I see Ryu(Daigo and Pongko), Rufus(J. Wong and Kindevu), and Akuma(Momochi).
There are a lot of Sagat players such as Mago, but generally I don't see Sagat win as much as the hype around him suggests. He is just fine. Hell Metaknight is even more unbalanced in Brawl than Sagat is in SF4.
LoyalSol 2 years ago 2
People just bitch because hes "Top Tier". Honestly any tourney player knows its the player that makes the character.
And you know why no Top tourney player bitches about Sagat? Because they know how to beat him... simple as that... your a bunch of noobs.
bob3578 2 years ago
Lets be realistic about Sagats strength here; coz although those who consider him broken are overrating him, he is absolutely the strongest.
Mago has been number 1 beyond Daigo for a few months now, and the top 50 ranks in Japan have been dominated consistenly by Sagat players since day one.
About 19 top 50 Sagat players last time I checked, which is monsterous. Second to that were Ryu players with a measly 6.
MichaelJ9999 2 years ago
I know which list you are taking that from. That is of course in arcade BP. Also some players are counted twice so it is not the most accurate list. For instance Kindevu is counted twice for his Rufus(#11) and Viper(#17).
When we look at the top 20 we see a decent amount of Sagats, but the top is largely filled with a mix of other characters like Akuma, Ryu, Viper, Rufus, Abel, Chun Li. So from what I see, Sagat does not dominate in the way many would love to believe.
LoyalSol 2 years ago
nice finish !
kurtcobain1978 2 years ago
ya know, i dont particularly like akuma either, but he's at least balanced by the fact that he has low health and an ultra that's hard to hit with.
sagat is just disgusting. high damage, high health, easy to combo into ultra.
natewei 2 years ago 3
That Akuma player was simply outplayed, more focus attacks and grabs would of helped.
d3f1anc3 2 years ago
haha, you're giving advice to pros man...
thatwaskindofrude 2 years ago
Just because they're in a tournament doesn't mean they are pros just so you know...
JCrest87 2 years ago 2
Are you fucking mental? These people ARE NOT PROFESSIONAL, lmao.
d3f1anc3 2 years ago
Fuck sagat...It takes no skill to play with him. I wish he was not in this game.
IrateGamerFan531 2 years ago
Saying that is like saying playing ANY character in this game requires no skill. l2p and get over it, Sagat may be top-tier but he isn't unbeatable like most people are under the assumption.
d3f1anc3 2 years ago
fuck sagat. that akuma player is working his ass off to have sagat do some bulshit and com back. Take him out of the game and street fighter starts becoming extremely balanaced.
thejunkmanlives 2 years ago 2
"Boo this man"
LOL
Magma541 2 years ago
Good mini comeback by Shady J at the end.
TNT11492 2 years ago
Sagat, what a surprise.
HanDaimond 2 years ago
that was a good match..
darknewday4d 2 years ago
Akuma zoned good but missed out on quite a few combos and chances to do damage especially after his FK connects
Realmasterorder 2 years ago 3
Sounds like Cammy and Chun-Li are getting it on in the back.
mrgosukiller 2 years ago
Finally more SF4!
rapbase 2 years ago 7
lol cheater XD
WuvableKel 2 years ago 2
cheatinfg o.0 were
g3tawaydriv3r 2 years ago
lol @ dsp going boooooooo
d2girls 2 years ago 3
That Akuma was a little scrubby, particularly in that last round. He had a 70% lead and he was still blindly aggressive, hence why Shady J punished him for being foolish.
When you have such a lead, there is nothing stopping you from turtling.
Obioma1 2 years ago 3
I think I was paying more attention to the Chun-Li VS Cammy on the background, LOL.
These tournaments need a bit more variety.
Still it was a nice match, I think.
XNOMaster 2 years ago
lols shady j he always either picks sagat or counter picks. how does he sleep at night
lordyrich 2 years ago 6
I would guess "good", because he keeps on winning ^^
chefrobsen 2 years ago 3
How is Sagat not a banned tourney character yet? His only weakness is his slow walk speed which is fixed by just doing tiger knees.
Spongemonkey26 2 years ago 2
I agree. Sagat should be allowed in so-called "noob tournaments" and the player who picks him in real tournaments should be publicly ridiculed receiving a "sissy-of-the-day award" *g*
Hogibaer 2 years ago
seymour butz, lulz. gotta love names that play on words.
alrdd 2 years ago
I woulda thought u guys would be down at Devastation in AZ right now, but I guess not.
mariosthemaster 2 years ago
why does he call him a cheater? even though it was funny
Sausuru3 2 years ago
It's meant as a joke.
Phil calls him a cheater because he wins all the time.
Anonib 2 years ago
Akuma was > than Sagat in that match. Sagat is a faggot.
RichL123 2 years ago
Scrub ass
RoyaltyOfNewYork 2 years ago
shady j is a beast
drpapi4ladiez 2 years ago
was this day 1 or 2 cant remember
halocars28 2 years ago
hey was this at arizona at big boys and toys show cuz i was there
halocars28 2 years ago
Nah, the one at arizona was "devastator 2009" This is just a gamestop tournament.
Prodigy357 2 years ago
k thanks i was wondering
halocars28 2 years ago
"This is footage of the Gamestop SF4 touranment held in Trumbull, CT on 6-20-09."
In the future, you might just want to read the description next to the video :P
Trekend 2 years ago
i posted the comment before that was there
halocars28 2 years ago
Oh, didn't even think that he might have edited it. My bad.
Trekend 2 years ago
ya i watched it right when he uploaded it
halocars28 2 years ago
who postan here?
montaisgod 2 years ago
Seymour Butz.....greatest name ever!!!!!!
bubbajr19 2 years ago 11