Wes Malott's swing and release viewed from the side

[pepinator2000]

Well, he refuses playing with only a plastic ball, so maybe he is not that good.

[jaycias]

he bent his wrist at :08 thats a big no no according to our dumb ass coach ahah

[ffsuperfreak]

@jaycias but he also unloaded it at the bottom

[MultiJmoney1234]

@scottcenter I will out rev this man any day. i know this because i have the highest rev rate in Tulsa.

[mrsabine111]

Wes has one of the greatest approaches I have seen. He doesn't let the ball drop to the outside of his wrist like so many crankers do. He keeps it under the ball and then just turns on the release as he cups the wrist. Makes for less strain on the wrist. And a more consistent roll in my opinion.

[mordanai]

People don't seem to realize how ordinary Belmonte is. He's not special simply because he doesn't put his thumb in the ball. Any dipshit can pick up any ball and give it a thousand revs with no thumb. That doesn't take any talent at all. Quite being a fucking pussy and put your thumb in the ball Belmonte. You don't like it, fuck you.l

[XvREByrd3vX]

He starts with a straight wrist, cups on downswing, then unloads from inside the ball going outward flicking his wrist up the back? That's what I saw. I wanna try!!!

[20alphabet]

@iwasadeum You don't know what you're talking about. Now be a good dog and stop barking.

[20alphabet]

@iwasadeum You don't know what you're talking about. Now be a good dog and stop barking.

[20alphabet]

Easy to see why he doesn't compete in the plastic ball tournaments. He'd never get the ball to work. His release shows that he's entirely relying on the engineered dynamics of the ball. A plastic ball will only do as much as your technique can achieve. Question answered for me. Thanks for posting !

[iwasadeum]

@20alphabet What a stupid, ignorant comment.

Every one of these bowlers can adjust to the conditions of the lanes or the ball they must use. Most power players dont play in the plastic ball tournaments because they like to see their balls hook. I dont blame them. I'm not going to spend my entire bowling career developing massive hook and flawless form to go and change it up to a style from the 60's. I've seen power players (like Tommy Jones and Malott) play straight lines many times.

[PahangDragonbird]

@20alphabet well he did quite well in the matchplay for the last plastic ball tournament

[eriklovessoaps]

Also, I can now see Wes cups his wrist. It's just he does it while staying behind the ball (as opposed to staying under it or going around it).

[cstrnutt2004]

In all the years i've watched bowling, not since earl anthony have I seen a more smoother release than Wes Mallott. Just poetry in motion, and nothing is wasted

[Leonardodo]

@cstrnutt2004

ever heard of Faggans or wolfe!?!

[RE4chainsaw]

Roto Grip Cell= best ball ever!

[eriklovessoaps]

I don't know. I think I'm trying to implament Wes' style in that I'm finding if you wait to cup the ball till the last moment, you will see good results. You have two options; 1. Cup and uncup or 2. Uncup and cup. Wes does the second I think. I think the second is easier on your wrist. The whip makes for just as much spin created. The less time you spend on the whipping action, the more force applied to the spin. That's a little of what I've figured out.

[Leonardodo]

@eriklovessoaps

unless my eyes are cheating me.. he's uncup the he cup and uncup at the release...

I figured out, that for myself, uncuping at the release gives me length on the lane.. with a slightly more angular flip off the breakpoint.. It's the pins harder, but with an overall hook slightly lower..

[eriklovessoaps]

@Leonardodo

Since I wrote what I wrote, I've fiddled around on my game (surprise, surprise...) and I now just keep my wrist cupped all the way through my swing. As the ball goes by my foot, I unthumb it and just drop it to the axis rotation desired (I need to work on the tilt). What this does is allows me to focus more on my target and speed control. Wes creates so much angle his way, but his timing is off alot too.

[meanboy2000]

fantasyfreak, I disagree with your statement about drilling.

11.4.1 Top and Bottom Weight. The difference in weight between the top (center

of grip CG) of the ball, and the bottom (side opposite the CG) of the ball, may not

exceed three (3) ounces.

11.4.2 Side/Finger/Thumb Weight. The difference in weight between the sides to

the left and right (side weight) as well as front and back (Finger/Thumb weight) of the

CG may not exceed one (1) ounce.

Read the pba rule book for further information

[scottcenter]

Wes could pull out any house ball from your bowling alley and get twice as many revs as the biggest cranker in your house.

[TheAmpad]

How do you figure how many revs a bowler gets on a ball? Furthermore what is the difference between revs and turns on a ball.

[fantasyfreak150]

@scottcenter haha i highly dought that  but it would be fun to see u fail a proving it

[Leonardodo]

@scottcenter

I wouldn't twice as many... but we all got the point :-)

[Leonardodo]

@scottcenter

I wouldn't say twice as many... but we got the point :-)

where I bowl there is people that are easyly in the 300 rev ... Wes isn't in the 600+ rev rate.. yet

[siege4life]

@scottcenter i will challenge that bc i know a tweener tht throws more revs then him

[Gbuck426]

Is that how you are supposed to release? Uncup the wrist to get the thumb out of the ball, then firm the wrist as the fingers go thru the ball?

[masterchief247]

When you uncup the wrist at release, it makes the ball come off twice as fast. A lot of power players do this in addition to a bent elbow or shoulder role. Wes uses the shoulder role, where Tommy Jones uses the bent elbow.

[damastadj94]

Can you explain this under should rule?

[djfan300]

its amazing how far down the lane the ball is b4 he releases it

[jonglifunchow]

super late thumb exit...

[Hammerhead419]

not really, most high rev players wait just a tad longer for their thumb to exit the ball than most players

[jonglifunchow]

i believe that tommy jones will be consider as a high rev player right? at the bottom of the swing, his thumb is already completely out of the thumb hole. robert smith's thumb comes out of the ball at the bottom of the swing as well, sean rash, rhino page same thing!

[jonglifunchow]

oh i almost forgot, chris barnes is a power player too, his thumb is clean out of the ball as well so if you say most high rev players wait just a tad longer for their thumb to exit the ball, then you're wrong...

[Hammerhead419]

ok, i didnt quite explain what i meant clearly. yes wes malott has a late thumb exit compared to most. what i was meaning was most high rev players dont release the ball as soon as most people hance why i said the whole thumb exit thing.......i commented when i was half asleep and had like 3 beers in me lol

[TaxCollectr]

@Hammerhead419

Actually, Rev rate is created by how long your thumb is left in the ball. The less time the thumb spends in the ball, the more revolutions the ball will have, hence Jason Belmonte having the high rev rate as he does not use his thumb. People often confuse "rev rate" with "hook", while generally a higher rev rate will produce more hook down the lane, it isn't always true. Again, Belmonte puts more revolution in the back of the ball then say TJ who has more side rotation.

[superdutch44]

just thinking that

[bowlingboy1231]

whats up with the whole japenes thing