Death rites are always for the comfort of the living, not the dead.
It makes me sad that you never put back the stone for Mother. It was an effort by those who loved her to grant her a small bit of immortality - a reminder to both loved ones and strangers that she once lived, breathed and loved. Without the stone her existence becomes lost.
So although it may have been meaningless to you, it was important to those who placed it and worthy of a measure of respect.
I took a side trip from the 678 Midwest gathering and visited my great great grandparents and family graves for the first time. Very small cemetery in a very small town, I was lucky to even find it.
This was an interesting viewpoint, thanks for sharing it. I'm Catholic and knew people were not allowed to be buried inside if you had "sinned", (long ago) and were put on the outskirts of the main cemetery lot. (Whatever. Glad it has changed now.) I just never saw one.
I plan to be cremated and have my remains placed in my garden where I grow veggies. I want my remains to be useful - potash.
Women still do not have equality in the USA - I just wear a different B-U-R-K-A minus U-K equals BRA. Yep, can't leave home without it. And we keep going thru new acceptable bigotries - gays, fat people and illegal immigrants are on the cultural S-list. I wonder if gays are banned from catholic graveyards today? Shame isn't it, denied a place to rest a dead sack.
If you go back in history a little further- even a married mother who died in child birth was forbidden to be buried in her family plot- or in the regular parish cemetery because they were thought UNCLEAN. It's really kind of sad...
Well I don't know about spricket24's comment but my wife once said something about how her mum was blessed in the hospital every time she had a kid because she'd commited mortal sin and that was when she was married. Of course, my girlfriend's Irish and they haven't got the best track record with religion. Ever heard of the Magdelene Laundries? The last one closed in 1996. Still, shift happens, we weren't even engaged when she gave birth to our daughter.
Right, and I could understand that. At the same time, it was originally a non-jewish cemetery for unwed mothers and their children according to the city planner, and then became the same for jewish unwed mothers, and then as you saw, it became the jewish cemetery.
That was a pretty nice tour you took us on. You asked why they take death so seriously. I think they take death seriously, because if you believe, it is the final religious act that you will do in this lifetime.
True - but in some cases only because it's the final wishes of the deceased. You have many non-religious people who provide religious funerals out of respect for the beliefs of the departed.
I little further down the path there is the graveyard for unwed half Jewish half Catholic flamenco dancing mothers of conflicted and fabulously talented dancer/children.
Ah, graveyards... see, I worked as a mortician for some years, and it's a very interesting job. Especially learning about the history of graveyrds. Did you know that for many centuries those people that were excomunicated were buried under the walls of the gaveyard, so that only half their body was in the graveyards ground? And that jewish coffins are very loose (just wood, no nails), because on the day the lord comes they have to be able to leave their graves? Funeral rites are a funny thing...
Crazy. I remember going through some cemeteries as a teen and later just checking out the people who were there. I personally have always thought the practice of burying the dead is unnecessary.
I like Nomer and I think we share some of the same personality characteristics. Good luck with you move man. If you get the desire to meet another KO or just a guy who loves l-i-v-i-n, drop me a PM when you get to K.C and get settled.
Wow! That was extremely interesting! I have always been fascinated with old cemeteries & the stories behind them. LOL you stole a headstone that said Mother (but it was real old:P) Thanks for sharing!
Oddly I mentioned only yesterday a ward in a mental institute I used to visit, which was full of old women whose only crime was to have an illegitimate baby. Of course they didn't get to keep the baby either.
Wow that's interesting. I suppose I have only seen one cemetery that said "no trespassing" and it also happened to be a Jewish Cemetery, and I didn't understand why nobody was allowed in there.
They all died in childbirth I assume. Let that be a warning to all you young girls.
smurfette2234 1 year ago
cool video and thanks for sharing
ashatbulaparanormal 2 years ago
Silly bugger. Be careful whose grave you desecrate. They might just see fit to come visit you and start pulling out all those rings.
mmedefarge 2 years ago
15¢
plazpure 2 years ago
so there is an unwed fathers cemetery too ??
mfsm67 2 years ago
A beautiful place, as most cemeteries are.
henrahmagix 2 years ago
Who is Nathen does he havea youtube account. I'd love to see someone offend Way of The Master.
10secstomeltdown 3 years ago
Perfect example of the cruelty and hypocrisy of wealthy organized religions. Bastards.
zookini33 3 years ago 3
Death rites are always for the comfort of the living, not the dead.
It makes me sad that you never put back the stone for Mother. It was an effort by those who loved her to grant her a small bit of immortality - a reminder to both loved ones and strangers that she once lived, breathed and loved. Without the stone her existence becomes lost.
So although it may have been meaningless to you, it was important to those who placed it and worthy of a measure of respect.
But love you anyway, Az.
OHdulcenea 3 years ago 13
thats sad
vandals97 3 years ago 3
i saw one of those in hawaii
WestCoastUninc 3 years ago
likely this property was purchased by the jewish community on the cheap.
closeoutcrew 3 years ago
Very intense.
hooterguru 3 years ago 2
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damn i didnt know msnomer was obese
luxfero 3 years ago
I took a side trip from the 678 Midwest gathering and visited my great great grandparents and family graves for the first time. Very small cemetery in a very small town, I was lucky to even find it.
This was an interesting viewpoint, thanks for sharing it. I'm Catholic and knew people were not allowed to be buried inside if you had "sinned", (long ago) and were put on the outskirts of the main cemetery lot. (Whatever. Glad it has changed now.) I just never saw one.
Nice to meet you.
MelodyElize 3 years ago
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why didnt you just piss on their graves and the graves of their children-then smear your excrement on the headstones.
LimpLoser 3 years ago
Didn't have to go.
azrienoch 3 years ago
So, what did you do with the mother stone? Do you still have it?
Cadwaladr 3 years ago
He put it in the back of his car to weigh it down so he didnt slip all over the road in the winter like a maniac.
antiflag177 3 years ago
Yeah, I got that part; I was just wondering where it is now.
Cadwaladr 3 years ago
It's wherever the car is, for all I know.
azrienoch 3 years ago
omggg is that msnomer?
mojimojix 3 years ago
Whoa.
rowsdowersavesus 3 years ago
I plan to be cremated and have my remains placed in my garden where I grow veggies. I want my remains to be useful - potash.
Women still do not have equality in the USA - I just wear a different B-U-R-K-A minus U-K equals BRA. Yep, can't leave home without it. And we keep going thru new acceptable bigotries - gays, fat people and illegal immigrants are on the cultural S-list. I wonder if gays are banned from catholic graveyards today? Shame isn't it, denied a place to rest a dead sack.
okiedragonlady2 3 years ago
Burqua
QueenOfMoods 3 years ago
I stand corrected - but it still has the letters for bra in it - smiles -
okiedragonlady2 3 years ago
I basically just want to be eaten when I die, by friends and family, a lion or a tree or all of the above and more
MassZombicide 3 years ago
I think that it's sad that everyone cant even get along in death :/
TsugaruRage 3 years ago
If you go back in history a little further- even a married mother who died in child birth was forbidden to be buried in her family plot- or in the regular parish cemetery because they were thought UNCLEAN. It's really kind of sad...
spricket24 3 years ago
How far back?
azrienoch 3 years ago
"How far back?"
Well I don't know about spricket24's comment but my wife once said something about how her mum was blessed in the hospital every time she had a kid because she'd commited mortal sin and that was when she was married. Of course, my girlfriend's Irish and they haven't got the best track record with religion. Ever heard of the Magdelene Laundries? The last one closed in 1996. Still, shift happens, we weren't even engaged when she gave birth to our daughter.
jkgillett 3 years ago
Right, and I could understand that. At the same time, it was originally a non-jewish cemetery for unwed mothers and their children according to the city planner, and then became the same for jewish unwed mothers, and then as you saw, it became the jewish cemetery.
azrienoch 3 years ago
Wild. Even in death we have to find a way to separate ourselves from the common humanity that we share. Unreal. Great video.
UncieThulhu 3 years ago
Thanks, wes.
azrienoch 3 years ago
Dead but not undespised... wow.
randyhelzerman 3 years ago
Well, we all hear stories, but rarely get to see it happen or even just the results. Fascinating, isn't it?
azrienoch 3 years ago
LOL
is it wrong that i laughed at your grave stone-robbing story?
that's awesome.
iamcoolalot 3 years ago
One should not vandalize cemeteries. You try doing that to my dead loved ones, and you will join them.
Walabio 3 years ago
That was a pretty nice tour you took us on. You asked why they take death so seriously. I think they take death seriously, because if you believe, it is the final religious act that you will do in this lifetime.
dl737 3 years ago
Hmmm... interesting idea. But then, it's the living people, the still-practicing people, that bother with the rituals and placement.
azrienoch 3 years ago
True - but in some cases only because it's the final wishes of the deceased. You have many non-religious people who provide religious funerals out of respect for the beliefs of the departed.
dl737 3 years ago
Another good point.
azrienoch 3 years ago
Ha! Mother
snownet 3 years ago
Some nice real estate. See you there.
bushfingers 3 years ago
I little further down the path there is the graveyard for unwed half Jewish half Catholic flamenco dancing mothers of conflicted and fabulously talented dancer/children.
SomeBSUTubeName 3 years ago
It is where the birds are...Dawns Chorus?
flips300021 3 years ago
Ah, Cemetouring.
CelphaFiael 3 years ago
the using grave for a sandbag is a bit creepy...
rguy84 3 years ago
you are horrible! i love it...using "mother" to assist...you truck, wait maybe the mother was overweight that would be a continuous after-death joke
RufioJJ 3 years ago
Ah, graveyards... see, I worked as a mortician for some years, and it's a very interesting job. Especially learning about the history of graveyrds. Did you know that for many centuries those people that were excomunicated were buried under the walls of the gaveyard, so that only half their body was in the graveyards ground? And that jewish coffins are very loose (just wood, no nails), because on the day the lord comes they have to be able to leave their graves? Funeral rites are a funny thing...
tmafkap 3 years ago
that was eye opening
curious, did you ever return that headstone?
TrueNorth15 3 years ago
Nah.
azrienoch 3 years ago
OOOoooo AAaaa
CivilHuman 3 years ago
All the things accidentally said out loud... and into hot microphones.
Very interesting. I love seeing your exploits.
FormerFollier 3 years ago
I love cemetery walks. LOL at the ending!!
Blizzeekitty 3 years ago
whoa! that's cool
Dadalama 3 years ago
Damn, Hell on earth by those in power. You can even rest in peace in there eyes. Peace
czarwright 3 years ago
Crazy. I remember going through some cemeteries as a teen and later just checking out the people who were there. I personally have always thought the practice of burying the dead is unnecessary.
I like Nomer and I think we share some of the same personality characteristics. Good luck with you move man. If you get the desire to meet another KO or just a guy who loves l-i-v-i-n, drop me a PM when you get to K.C and get settled.
mconn2112 3 years ago
Excellent, we'll definitely hook up, thanks.
azrienoch 3 years ago
Wow! That was extremely interesting! I have always been fascinated with old cemeteries & the stories behind them. LOL you stole a headstone that said Mother (but it was real old:P) Thanks for sharing!
sweetqueento3 3 years ago
it's Mentally Challenged Inuits, you retarded cracker!
foe1one 3 years ago
Some of us hairless monkeys take our mythological spiritual guidance really seriously.
ChristopherMast 3 years ago
Silly monkeys. ;)
azrienoch 3 years ago
eeriely awesome video!! - thank you azienoch
idiotwind75 3 years ago
LoL! Great! :)
healthyaddict 3 years ago
Oddly I mentioned only yesterday a ward in a mental institute I used to visit, which was full of old women whose only crime was to have an illegitimate baby. Of course they didn't get to keep the baby either.
Loreleila 3 years ago
and modern mental institutes hold the people who decided to send those women there, i hope.
gratex 3 years ago
If there was a hell they'd be burning there. They stole those womens lives.
Loreleila 3 years ago
Damn, how old is that cemetery? A policy like that must go back centuries...
TheWaterScorpion 3 years ago
the earliest we saw was a baby that died in the 1890's, and the mothers were buried there until 1914 or so.
azrienoch 3 years ago
There may be Jewish laws about where the burial takes place for them too. *Catholics* aren't the only ones with dogma. :0)
I love old cemeteries. Stories are told by the headstones.
LilCav68 3 years ago
Wow that's interesting. I suppose I have only seen one cemetery that said "no trespassing" and it also happened to be a Jewish Cemetery, and I didn't understand why nobody was allowed in there.
brojoghost 3 years ago
how unique and odd and kinda creepy...and naughty
Wow!
cozmikzen 3 years ago
I took a 'Death & Dying Across Cultures' course and it was interesting learing how death rituals correspond and vary within and between groups.
It's funny - even in death we differentiate.
eyemran 3 years ago
Right. It's hard for us to think in terms of equality, even today, because we just don't know what to begin to equate.
azrienoch 3 years ago
Lol... Grave-robbing...
touchingstoves 3 years ago
lol your sand bag joke flopped HUGE with her hahaha
chris3443 3 years ago 2
aww rock on guys. Loved the contrast and the colors in this video az. Well made. Nomer is a fascinating creature. I suggest everyone subscribe.
thinkmorepink 3 years ago