Inclined Bed Therapy I.B.T. Andrew K Fletcher

[nelljamina419]

I am really interested in this. However I think it needs to be explained in a really accessible way which, IMHO noone has done yet. Andrew Fletcher is obviously a really intelligent and nice bloke but I just don't think that there is anything I've found yet which presents the theory (diagrams would be good) in a really clear way. Just my suggestion.

[GreenlandCat]

thanks for sticking up for what you believe in. i hate when doctors say ""theres no proof" before something has even been given a fair try. nothing has proof to begin with.

[mattdb1983]

A question: I've read about varicose veins being improved using IBT - this is in contrast to everything else I've heard about varicose veins and it being best to raise one's legs to empty the vein and sleeping with feet elevated. How does IBT take account for potentially being helpful to varicose veins?

[rusty1491]

I inclined my Murphy Bed and within a few weeks the dark circles under my eyes started to diminish dramatically. I suspected I was breathing better too, because I felt well rested instead of occasionally feeling like someone beat me up during the night.

[THEjkllkkljkljkl]

Thanks for posting this

[osirisseventh1]

Congratulations Andrew on the New Pathways Article, please let me know when it is available

[AndrewKFletcher]

An article for the Multiple Sclerosis Resource Centre's New Pathways Magazine, about Inclined Bed Therapy is going to feature reports and results from people using I.T.

[Alexknobsob]

I'm convinced this is worth a try, look at Dr. Paulo Zamboni's work.

[AndrewKFletcher]

@Alexknobsob

Check out Thisisms forum and CCSVI

While there read the Inclined bed therapy threads. Lots of people reporting significant improvements.

Thanks for the comment

Andrew

[THEjkllkkljkljkl]

@AndrewKFletcher "Comment pending approval" is a bad thing believe me.I know you must get a lot of bad comments but just ignore them.

Do you really think that this was not discovered before?

there are a lot of things that we "know" that are not true.Wgat you are doing is great but dont expect "official" science and doctors to except this.It is not in their interest.

So dont fell disappointed about that,be glad you helped people who do tried this

[AndrewKFletcher]

PARALYZED IN CHURCH.; Stricken While Praying ;- Remains Kneeling for 14 Hours.

November 11, 1913, Tuesday

Page 2, New York Times

Shortly after Miss Hannah Moran, a seamstress, knelt for her morning devotions at 7 o'clock yesterday in a pew in the Church of St. John the Baptist, in West Thirtieth Street, she was stricken with paralysis and found she could not rise. Her hope, then, was in prayer, and she continued with bowed head hour after hour.

An old report shows importance of posture.

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[MSVlogSupport]

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for posting this as a video response. I am going to be making my comments there so everyone can see.

I find this very interesting considering the new info about CCSVI

Thanks again.

Andrea

[TheEgg185]

I believe in your invention, Dr. Fletcher. Doctors and drug companies don't want us to know about this because its too simple and they can't make money off it.

LMAO @ the door 3:30. Whats the point of that?

[AndrewKFletcher]

@TheEgg185

The door has two functions, it allows the wood buring stove to warm the bedrooms and hallway, and is ideal for the dogs and ourselves to push open and closed with ease, something that happens a lot :)

[AndrewKFletcher]

@TheEgg185 BTW, I am not a Doctor :)

[AndrewKFletcher]

Hi Darren thank you for your comment.

If you want to see how my research is going right now, google: inclined therapy and thisism. The posts from people with multiple sclerosis who have tilted their beds are incredible.

Andrew

[greatmindstore]

Amazing! I was plagued with severe throat infections as a child. After my tonsils were removed, I still suffered from strep throat and other infections frequently. Someone told me it could be congenital hiatal defect. I raised the head of the bed only 3 inches, and now rarely have even a cold. Kudos on thinking outside the box!

[ProgressiveMS]

I will definately try this!

[ProgressiveMS]

I want to try this! But there is nobody to help me fix the bed.I have just a mattress and boxsprings and it sits directly on the floor. How can I do this cheaply? I am not able to move much.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Provind the frame is strong and not one of those pine beds with weak joinery, you simply need to have someone place blocks under the frame to lift up the head end, and remove castors / wheels from the bottom of the bed if aplicable.

That's it.

But there is much more to this therapy than meets the eye, people are ready to dismiss it because it sounds too good to be true. It is however true and tilting the bed has changed peoples lives with an array of serious medical conditions. Thank you

[Susana1027]

Hello, Andrew. I have peripheral neuropathy caused by too low thyroid for almost a year. I'm going to try IBT to see if it helps, since I've noticed that I have increased pain after being in bed (flat) after a short period of time. I'll let you know how things progress. Thank you for making your research known to the public.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Blood pressure needs to be monitored carefully stroke is a condition requiring a balanced approach and I.T. may prove to be useful but you need the help of doctor to determine whether this is of benefit in the long term, certainly it will help with the initial raised blood pressure on rising from bed. The angle can be adjusted to suit so perhaps a 4 inch incline to begin with for 4 weeks raising higher when he feels comfortable to do so. Please come back and let us know about any observations.

[beautifuiiybrokn]

Can you explain to me the difference in the benefits of raising just the head of the bed verses inclining the whle bed?

[AndrewKFletcher]

The body temperature increases slightly on I.T. the heart rate decreases by 10-12 bpm and respiration by 4-5 breaths pm. The circulation and sats improve significantly, the bed feels different as the weight of the person is distributed differently. Over time the muscles become denser and the bones become denser, exactly the opposite to flat bed rest and the experience of astronauts who encounter rapid ageing due to the lack of gravity on the circulation, this should tell us something.

[beautifuiiybrokn]

I am a caretaker for a recovering CVA patient.. He sleeps with the HEAD of the bed elevated but not a staight incline for his whole body. Can you tell me how thi affects him differently than would the IBT? I would like to explain to my boss why it is important to have a total incline verses just a normal hospital bed with the head of the bed up. Thank-you

[AndrewKFletcher]

Hi

If you google "andrew k fletcher" or "inclined therapy" you will find a more complete explanation and evidence.

The main difference is the sitting posture with half the bed elevated compresses the spine and only helps the circulation down to the bottom of the spine, tilting the whole bed is completely different, immediately you rest on a bed angled correctly you can tell the difference. The spine for example is placed under a gentle traction throughout the night, this alone improves circ.

[TheAmericaShow]

Dear Andrew Flecher,

I was searching at earth clinic when I read about IBT, I did not understand really well what to do, If you want to raise or prop the ed 15 cm where the head is positioned why to use the 6 inches on the head and 3 inches in the botton, in this case you would be raising only 3 inches, is that right, did I miss anything? Thank you very much for your post, your invention, and also I am going to try on my son for his headaches and bed wetting.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Hi

The bed is raised by six inches at the head end, the three inch blocks are used for beds that need supporting in the middle. Please come back and update us all on your progress and thanks for deciding to give this therapy a trial. All the best  Andrew

[norxgirl]

Hi Andrew, Have come across IBT several times. We have a Captain's Bed, solid oak, which is high up off the floor with drawers built in underneath and tall headboard. Do not think it would be safe to prop it up at the base of the head. We are trying to figure out how to elevate just the mattress part so it does not bow. Any clues? Thanks.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Hi

Have a plywood board cut same size as mattress. Screw timber 6" along top of board, 3" across the middle and place the wedge board under the mattress. :) This is the safest and easiest way to tilt bunk beds and cabin beds.

Please come back and let us know what happens over the coming months :)

Best wishes Andrew

Alternatively start at 4" and 2"

[MBENnow]

Can this video be formatted for showing on a ipod like your other videos?

[AndrewKFletcher]

Do a google for free youtube video converter. Should be able to convert any youtube video to mp4 and other formats

Thanks for interest in this important discovery and please come back to us with progress.

Andrew

[AndrewKFletcher]

Could the people viewing this video in Africa, India, Pakistan, Cambodia, and Indonesia please provide us with your experience using Inclined Therapy and the Experiences of people you have assisted to use I.T.

This therapy is perfect for countries where healthcare is in short supply and will undoubtedly assist recovery from many serious medical conditions and help to support the immune system. 16 years of self funded research should at least raise the question is there more to this therapy?

[godofthemiddleearth]

Keep going Andrew. It is only a matter of time before this wonderful common sense approach to health becomes accepted.

Please help to share this with all of your family and friends. Get the word out there people and let everyone know about his approach.

[kinakona]

works for bed wetting too!!! thaks a lot,i'm telling everyone i know,thanks!!!!

[AndrewKFletcher]

Thank you Kinakona

This information is being suppressed, not only by big Pharma but by charites including those responsible for multiple sclerosis, spinal cord injuries, parkinsons, psoriasis, Sight Impairment, Sudden Infant Deaths. Heart & circulation. Many rely on their chosen "money generating illness" to fund lucrative lifestyles while the very people they collect money for remain firmly in the hands of the drug companies. I.T. won't work for everyone Hense a controlled trial is required.

[kinakona]

31154 views with 25 ratings??????just compare with any other video and you will understand this information is being suppressed by the "MASTERS"...BIG PHARMA will loose millions if this goes mainstream...keep the good work and tell EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!!!!

[kinakona]

i'm testing this therapy on my kids for bed wetting ,i 'm convinced that is the answer for this problem and will post the results by the end of the month...personally i felt the detox effect from day one...i can't remember waking up so light and energysed as i do now with my bed up...

[MBENnow]

Hi Andrew,

When sleeping on an inclined bed, do we need to sleep flat on our back or is it ok to curl up on your side?

[AndrewKFletcher]

Anyway you feel comfortable is ok. Sleeping on side is prefered for us. Curling up can reduce the effect somewhat so if possible resist the tendency to lift your knees up.

Thanks for giving this a try

Andrew

[wecochaz3]

I don't know if I am going to give credit to the IBT but this is my story.

I had a hernia in my lower groin, I when to see a surgeon to take of it. He check me out, then he said 'lets take care of it' . we set the surgery date for about a month later.

I discover IBT ( I raised my bed 6") a week later and 2 weeks before my surgery. I when for my final check up and the surgeon told me that I didn't have a hernia.

[AndrewKFletcher]

This is interesting, but I suyspect you may have had what is termed as a veinous blowout. This usually occurs in the groin area and is generally soft and can be pushed back in. If this was the case then you might be interested to learn that another person named Alun on the Nakedscientists web forum reported a similar groin swelling, thought to be an anurism that has also completely resolved using I.T.

If it was a hernia then this is a very important development and could help others with same.

[wecochaz3]

I ask the surgeon, what happen when you check me out the first time?

He said: yes I felt the tear 2 weeks ago, but I don't feel it now.

The bulge I had was gone. The only think different that I did was the IBD.

I am a fan now, I sleep better too.

Good luck Andrew, Charly

[cindyaustx]

I have Fibromyalgia and wake up stiff and in pain. I believe this pain is caused by pooling lymph fluid around the nerves. I was just pondering inclining my bed to allow gravity to drain this pooling.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Hi Cindy, did you tilt your bed and if so have you observed any changes as a result of Inclined therapy?

[johnbresnik]

This concept is new and therefore not accepted by most people because most people don't want to change anything. But, it works and it's a valid concept with proven results. It's going to take another 10-20 years for the general public to "get the message" -- true truth will win ... and so will Fletcher's therapy. It will take a testimonial from a very influential person to break through the resistance. But, it will happen -- because it works..!

[AndrewKFletcher]

Thank you for your comment John.

You are not wrong about 10-20 years it has already taken more than 15 years to get here. Very strange that people would rather risk their lives with surgery and drugs than tilt their beds to see if their helth problems improve. If they don't improve then sleeping flat again and then trying the drug and surgery avenues makes more sense. The problem is it is too simple for people to grasp how powerful this non-invasive free therapy is. 29792 views. How did it?

[naam123lol]

whats incline????

so you need to sleep with your head higher then your legs?

[AndrewKFletcher]

Yes, that's the general idea, a five degree to the horizontal with the head raised about 15 cm's higher than the feet.

[naam123lol]

is it healthy if you sleep like that and don't have problems with your legs or do you sleep like that?

[AndrewKFletcher]

Yes we sleep this way, so do many of our friends.

It appears to be much healthier than sleeping flat with many other additional benefits, like boosing the immune system to combat viral and baterial infections. And if you do happen to get the flu, this will certainly speed up the recovery process by helping the body to combat the bugs. So you don't have to be ill to find this useful. In fact the ancient Egyptians slept on beds elevated at the head end by 15 cms. Coincidence?

[naam123lol]

whats so special about the bed????????

you have to sleap with your legs higher then the rest of your body?

[themanyone]

My bed broke a while back due to an unfortunate parkour accident and I've been sleeping at this angle since then. I have to admit I am feeling better though. Reminds me of sleeping on a beach. If it ain't fixed, don't broke it, err... Hmmm.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Reminded me of sleeping on a beach when I first tried this many years ago. The first changes my wife and I noticed were an increased energy and endurance, particularly walking up hills carrying shopping that wou;d make our legs ache, except it no longer did. Ww would have to rest half way up the hill and found we no longer needed to.. We also found an improved resistance to flu and colds. But the most obvious changes were in a varicose vein on Wifes leg that reverted to looking normal in 4 wks

[upallnite77]

What about sleeping the other way with the head lower then the feet? Like inversion therepy. I have a pinched nerve in my spine and I feel this might work better b/c it would decompress my spine. What are your thoughts on this?

[AndrewKFletcher]

Not a good idea to sleep upside down. Diarrhoea, muscular atrophy, palpitations, heart atrophy, osteoporosis, neurological impairment and possibility of permanent damage. If I were you I would research on google using Head Down Tilt or Trendlenburg together with containdications. NASA are currently conducting a study on head down tilt offering youngsters huge payouts for taking part. Question is why?

IBT provides the traction you are seeking without the adverse side effects of inversion.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Having the head higher than the feet means that gravity can pull on solutes and assist the circulation. The location of the kidneys and bladder being lower than the lungs enables more efficient removal of spent salts. Experiments with head down bedrest on urine density revealed that the solutes were not migrating to the bladder, yet IBT produced a higher density than flat bedrest and normal daily activity.

[zyby]

Andrew - two questions:

1/ Why not 5 or 7 degrees?

2/ If the principle works with your head in the high position why should it work any differently the other way around?

[AndrewKFletcher]

Have used 5 and 7 degrees to help people with spinal cord injury. Trade off for going higher is comfort, slipping down the bed, and little if any extra benefits.

Using a lesser angle reduces the effects on circulation. I used a closed loop of water filled tube stretched along the bed with salt solution added at pillow end. Lower angles produced a dual direction flow in same side of tube. Higher angle produced flow and return or complete ciculation in the loop of tubing as in the experiments

[zyby]

1of2 Andrew, thank you. After your reply I am now interested in your experiment re human circulation ;-) How is the mineralisation/salination/dens­ity differential (or whatever it is) regulated? And how would having your head higher than your feet matter?

[zyby]

2of2 Why it is necessary or beneficial to be angled vertically rather than horizontally? I see the top to bottom height difference but (other than possible momentum) I can't see how the gravity driven system would gain much advantage?

[AndrewKFletcher]

When a body is vertical, all the joints are compressed, the muscles are tense, there is pressure on the bottom of the feet, which restricts the circulation, this is why guards on duty shift their weight from one foot to another to avoid feinting. The same feinting happens at weddings when the bride and groom stand motionless for too long. An inclined body has a completely different action on the spine and joints, it decompresses them and the spine is elongated more by this action.

[AndrewKFletcher]

When a body is vertical, all the joints are compressed, the muscles are tense, there is pressure on the bottom of the feet, which restricts the circulation, this is why guards on duty shift their weight from one foot to another to avoid feinting. The same feinting happens at weddings when the bride and groom stand motionless for too long.

An inclined body has a completely different action on the spine and joints, it decompresses them and the spine is elongated more by this action

[AndrewKFletcher]

We have all seen an elderly person stooped over and unable to straighten up. This was probably brought about by their horizontal sleeping posture. IBT has a remarkable side effect on our height and appears to be reducing the height loss as we get older.

[zyby]

p.s. of 2of2: Lying on our sides creates a height difference that should also gain an advantage from gravity if the density of fluid in our blood vessels alters from above to below. I am wondering what process/organ might create the density difference? The skin seems an obvious organ and there might be a parallel mechanism comparable with leaves? Any of your thoughts / knowledge on this would be appreciated.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Indeed you are correct about sleeping on ones side, this is probably why some people are less affected by horizontal bed rest than others. The main density changes will take place in the lungs, sinuses and bronchial tubes, as these organs are very efficient at evaporative water loss. The lungs look very much like an upside down tree.

Evaporative loss from the skin, eyes and hair must also alter the density of the fluids. Any density change instantly migrates through the circulation.

[AndrewKFletcher]

So we are not looking for a huge concentration of salts, prior to gravity moving them down the vessels more a steady trickle down effect.

In Gravity of life part1 if you look closely at the glass vase, you can see that 1 grain of salt or sugar can trigger a flow and return. Added to the arterial blood from the lungs and respiratory tract, pulses of dilute salts and sugars are pulled down the main artery and into the kidneys where they are filtered out and introduced into the urine for disposal

[zyby]

Andrew - I have now looked at the naked scientist site and already found some explanations written by you! Many thanks - the world needs more people like you ;-)

[AndrewKFletcher]

Thank you for the comment. There is much more to do before this theory can become mainstream, I do what I can with the little resources that are at hand, but progress is very slow due partly because of this coming from someone outside of the medical profession. However, recent developments with multiple sclerosis, and Professor Zambonis paper on chronic venous insufficiency may open some doors. Doctor Franz Schelling has been saying there is a problem with circulation in ms for many years.

[trudythomas777]

What about the feet? Should they be flat or raised too?

Thanks,

thematrix777

[AndrewKFletcher]

Hi Trudy

The whole bed slopes head higher than feet, so feet must be lower than the rest of your body for this to work. I have great expectations for you with using IBT, but please be patient and if you experience unusual shooting / lectrical pains in the legs, moving around, wait to see what changes in the weeks that follow as this is usually a precurser for improvements on IBT.

[dunrommin]

When things happen for the first time it is either a miracle or bull$ Theire cany be no evidence for a first only opinion,people seem to have stoped thinking and relying on pre conceived ideas. In 91 my wife was so ill in Hati the doc had nothing. 3 days with my drivers grandmother she was O K no explanation-voodoo or medicinal plants who knows

[AndrewKFletcher]

Good to see your open minded and great to know your wife's back to good health. That must have been really scary.

One time remarkable events can appear miraculous when lacking an understanding of what has taken place.

With IBT the results can often be predictable and results repeatable. So miraculous they are not. The ancient Egyptians slept on a five degree head up angle. There are beds in museums that show this angle, yet no one has asked why these beds were designed to be tilted?

[hurmuzs]

how is this therapy workin spider veins andrew?

tank,s

[AndrewKFletcher]

I have had some reports of improvements. Although, I have been focused on varicose vein improvements and have not requested feedback on spider veins or encouraged the use of IBT for them. Would be interesting if you do try IBT for this condition. Please take some photographs of the spider veins before you alter your bed for comparison later.

Thanks for considering IBT

[johnbresnik]

This therapy really works -- I've been at 6" now for over six months and the benefits are surprising - too bad the MDs won't tell people about this -- they need "scientific evidence" that it works first -- so while we wait another twenty years for the "science," millions of people will continue to suffer from various ailments that could be alleviated by simply raising the head of their bed six inches. In the meantime, at least a few people get the benefit and they tell others.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Hi John, thanks for sending me the pictures of your modified bed.

Great to hear your thoughts and experience using IBT.

There have been some recent developments with published papers on Head up sleeping, that have confirmed in a study what I already confirmed 15 years ago with people who have MS and people who have spinal cord injuries.

You and I know that IBT works, problem is that most people will watch this video and think it's a hoax and walk away unconvinced. People have been conditioned

[godofthemiddleearth]

In 1997 My husband and I decided to try this method for respiratory and arthritic condtions that had become much worse with age. Following a few months, we began to notice huge improvements in mobility and pain management and cannot thank you enough for this common sense holistic approach to healing. We will never revert back to sleeping flat and we advise everyone who has a medical condition that could be helped by this method.

Thank you Andrew

[AndrewKFletcher]

Thanks for posting about your experiences using IBT. Great to hear your still sleeping inclined.

I doubt there are many that would revert back to falt bed rest after sleeping inclined.

Thanks

[sjarvis84]

can this new therapy help the paralysis due to having Spina Bifida? I've been experiencing new sensations in my back,legs and sides....would this new therapy help that new sensation go further??

[AndrewKFletcher]

I see no reason why it should not help you to regain control over muscles and nerves. Although, I have not had any feedback from anyone trying IBT for this condition and would appreciate very much if you could provide us with some should you decide to try it.

Andrew

[AndrewKFletcher]

Did you Incline your bed and if so are you keeping a note of your observations? Would love to hear from you.

Andrew

[sjarvis84]

I tried it for a month or so and only noticed that my circulation in my lower half was improved...not noticed any other changes in my condition as a result of inclining my bed.

-Sara

[AndrewKFletcher]

Hi Sarah. It was a given that you would notice improvements in circulation. How were you able to determine this were your hands and feet warmer?

4 weeks of inclined bed therapy was never going to be sufficient to effect a recovery. Primary Progressive Multiple Sclerosis for instance can take 4 months of IBT before it begins to stimulate the nerves. Spinal cord injury takes longer in most cases, although there have also been some more rapid recovery signs.

Please give it longer & keep a diary.

[Only1moomin]

An unsightly varicose vein on my calf vanished after only 4 weeks of Inclined Bed therapy. That was in 1994. It has never returned since, yet had become a problem for 16 years following the birth of our son. My leg used to ache walking up hill. Today I have no pain or aches and leg is normal with no bulging vericosed vein to be seen.

Eventually you will get the recognition you deserve for all of your research. Long may you continue to help those people who have a mind open enough to test IBT.

[aether222]

Truly the most amazing therapy I have come across, other ones include: Vitazym (digestive and metabolic enzymes, removes scars), Emotion Code and EFT, HIIT exercises & EWOT, Chlorella, Honey Cinnamon and ACV in low dose, Hypnosis, MMS (Jim Humble) and H2O2, sunlight/sungazing, organic food and avoiding microwaves drugs etc, vitamins antioxidants minerals, QT ME and Qi Gong, Ubiquinol, fish oil.

Any reports of this fixing sleeping problems? (trouble getting or staying asleep, sleep apnea?)

[AndrewKFletcher]

Hi Aether222

Sleep related problems are some of the most responsive to Inclined Bed Therapy, snoring, insomnia, sleep apnea, sleep paralysis are greatly improved. Thank you for the comment

Andrew

[LoveAsh7]

my mom has very bad swollen feet due to diabetes I have raised her incline with 3 bricks and hopefully this will sort out her problems...great work love shana

[AndrewKFletcher]

Hi Shana

Just found your note. Have you noticed improvements in her oedema? It should be completely gone by now

Andrew

[LoveAsh7]

Hi Andrew,

yes we were abroad on holiday and her feet were badly swollen sleeping normally. So the IBT works.. also I noticed that when she sleeps with the incline she does not snore,..neither does she wake up suddenly

her heart is not struggling. I see it as essential and permanent that she sleeps with an incline bed otherwise her bad health comes back.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Hi Shana

Thank you for coming back to let us know how your mum is finding sleeping inclined. Her improved oedema report is very useful and if ok, I will add it to the varicose veins and oedema study on Nakedscientists forum?

Would be great if her doctor could provide us with his / her own observations regarding her improvements. I bet she has stopped getting out of bed so much to empty her bladder, this is another useful bonus. However, she should drink a little more water to compensate. Andrew

[midniight]

Fuck yea... Thankx brother... I have a best friend whos paralized from the waist down, im going to elevate his bed, and give this a shot... hopefully he too, will be walking soon i know he can do it. :)

If you want i can document it, and video tape the documentary.... thankx alot tho, i also will try this for myself.

[Roccia24]

Andrew,

I have horrible varicose veins and I want to take part in your study if you are still looking for volunteers. I tried to find the info on the naked scientist website and could not find where to contact you. Please respond with a better way to contact you, the website you listed on Earth Clinic did not help me either! Thank you and I am looking forward to getting started! Candice

[AndrewKFletcher]

If you go to the nakedscientists forum, then search for varicose veins you will find our study. look forward to hearing from you Candice

Andrew

[AndrewKFletcher]

There is a strong possibility that this will help with prolapsed disc in the neck. A good way of testing this is to note down when your worst time is over a 24 hour period. If it is during the night and first thing in the morning after wake up then the answer is this will definately help this condition. How far it will go for each case is anyones guess, but nothing ventured nothing gained and you can always abandon Inclined Bed Therapy if you feel it is not helping but gove it 4 months minimum

[xgxexmxmxa]

If this is good for spine injury can it also help with prolapsed discs in the neck? I am in constant pain with mine.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Thank you for your help with this John,

There are two giant beds in a fort in Canada I have been informed about. Both are sloping down from head to toe and both can sleep 12 people. Why did they find this useful and what were they used to help treat or prevent?

Also in the Late Tudor Period The Sweating Sickness killed millions. Why did they place two guards at the bedside to prevent sleep, presumably also to prevent the afflicted from laying down. Those that slept were dead by morning!

[johnbresnik]

Andrew: I left a comment this morning, but it didn't show up. Basically I said that this works for me. I think the main problem will be the "Semmelweis reflex" -- it'll take some time to get past that, but I am now an "IBT Evangelist" -- I'll do whatever I can to get the word out and promote this revolutionary health improvement concept.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Incline your bed to 6 inches at the head end when you are ready. If you could come to the Nakedscientists forum and update us on your progress from time to time and advise anyone you know who has varicose veins to join our study it would be great. We need 50 people to test this with oedema and / or varicose veins.

Kind Regards

Andrew

[johnbresnik]

I will visit that forum to add my input - I've been promoting this concept to my family and friends - some are trying it (don't try it... do it..!). I know of some people with varicose veins and will pass the word along to them. Was surprised to learn that the Egyptians practiced this IBT therapy, but they probably didn't have a name for it.

Take care and thank you for your dedication to promoting this concept,

John

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[johnbresnik]

I accidentally ran across this concept a couple months ago - was painting my bed base and didn't want to set it back on the rug, so I put a couple 3" blocks under the head. Went to bed and forgot about the blocks - slept through until 5:00 AM -- couldn't believe it - I always get up 2-3 times a night. Then I did research on the Internet and was glad to find your material. Needless to say, my bed is still 3" higher at the head -- many benefits are showing up, including my wife no longer snoring.

[bobspez]

@johnbresnik Hi John, I am also an amateur musician (visited your youtube site and you really play some beautiful gospel songs), who has been trying IBT for my extreme nocturia. According to my wife, less snoring would also be a bonus. Did you keep up with the raised Bed? Were the benefits to your nocturia and snoring lasting. Would appreciate your feedback as nocturia is putting a serious twist into my "golden years".

Regards, Bob

P.S. once again, great recordings.

[wheelieblind]

looks like a good idea

[illmitchjax]

My GF sleeps like this to help her ME... :)

[AndrewKFletcher]

Hi Alamdar, Thank you for your comment.

Your mother should respond well to IBT People with MS in general respond within 4 weeks, maybe some moderate improvements at first which will be followed by more improvements over the following months.

Search terms Multiple sclerosis + "inclined bed therapy" or "andrew k fletcher"

Also google "inclined to sleep inclined" for pilot study results on MS, you will find this group in google groups

[Alamdar405]

well Andrew that sure is an amazing discovery, i am writting in from Pakistan where people suffering from MS are very low. But the unfortunate part is that my mother is a patient of MS and this idea would do wonders ... i have my fingers crossed and this is what i will be doing to Make my Mother walk properly again :)

thanks loads and i wish you success for times to come

Regards,

Alamdar khan

Pakistan

[AndrewKFletcher]

Hi Alamdar, Thank you for your comment.

Your mother should respond well to IBT People with MS in general respond within 4 weeks, maybe some moderate improvements at first which will be followed by more improvements over the following months.

Search terms Multiple sclerosis + "inclined bed therapy" or "andrew k fletcher"

Also google "inclined to sleep inclined" for pilot study results on MS, you will find this group in google groups

[gforgetsmost2007]

This makes me want a sloping bed!!

[AndrewKFletcher]

Remember, the whole bed slopes from head to toe and is raised 6 inches or fifteen cm's on a 6 feet 3inch long bed (UK Standard Size) If your bed is a lot longer then you will have to raise the bed up to an extra inch at the head end.

Good luck and thanks for the comment

[dangerousdaly]

I have had severe neck pain for the last 6 years! I have just gone and put two house bricks under my bed and I will post how I get on....

[xfarmxgirlx]

I dont belive this. (I mean actually can't belive this could happen, I think it is 100% coincidence)

[AndrewKFletcher]

I have been working on this important discovery since 1994. This video while important is only the tip of the iceburg

Multiple sclerosis, cot deaths, parkinson's Disease, cerebral palsy, varicose veins, leg ulcer, oedema, blood pressure, all respond to avoiding flat bedrest.

Google "andrew k fletcher" or "inclined bed therapy"

[PeteMoss36]

This works for hiatal hernia, acid reflux and bloating as well! I say give the man a Nobel Prize; Bravo!

[shortstraw88]

Wow, i never realised that. Thats a cool idea. I might stick some books under the top end of my bed. I dont have any back problems yet as im only 22 but it could help in the future. Nice vid.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Glad you liked the video.

While as you say you are fit and young. You may, like my wife and I find that you do not get the usual bugs that are circulating in the winter, while everyone around you appears to play host to every conceivable pathogen :)

[oldsharkie]

My wife and I have been sleeping on an inclined bed (8 inches)about 22 months. During this time my blood pressure has dropped from 160/90 to 130/65 (Ave) with the same dose of 50 mg Atenolol. I no longer snore nor have sleep apnea attacks. After many years of taking Flonase for sinusitis I discontinued the medication 6 months ago with little or no sinus problems now. Night time urination has decreased from half dozen times to once a night. I am 82.

[LuisLomeliMD]

Andrew: I'll be making a video in response to your great idea & I'll incorporate other facts. In medicine, we know that gravity can help us prevent gastric acid from reaching the esophagus and lungs. Patients with heart failure often sleep sitting up. Your idea makes sense because the muscle tone, if body inclined, would be enhanced. The medical orthodoxy, as you know, is full of rubbish.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Doctor Lomeli Thank you for taking a look at the video and posting a comment. And thank you also for your kind offer to help by making a video. Please feel free to use any of my work, and photographs in the psoriasis forum of Helen, who incidentally is still improving and set to confirm pilot study results. If you could test my theory on your patients, those who you feel will benefit most, please come back and let me know your results.

Kind regards

Andrew

[AndrewKFletcher]

Placebo effect on spinal cord injury, that's a new one Dave. During many years of research, particularly into multiple scelrosis, we adopted a revert back to sleeping flat cross over to see if the symptoms would come back, which they did. Oddly enough didn't get many vollunteers willing to give up IBT.

[wildypker19]

wierd

[CeeStyleDj]

What about a craftmatic adjustable bed? been around for maybe 20 years?

[AndrewKFletcher]

Totally the wrong posture with a Craftmatic Bed, having the upper half elevated with feet either level or raised compresses the spine and comprimises circulation.

[CeeStyleDj]

I see. Thanks for the reply.

[AndrewKFletcher]

How does your interpretation relate to a decrease in heart rate by 10-12 beats per minute and a decrease in respiration rate by 4-5 breaths per minute in people sleeping at a five degree head up angle? Everything fits perfectly with my theory which led me to coming up with the question "Why do we sleep flat"?

[daveshorts]

A lot of the reason Andrew is not taken seriously is he has a theory to go with his bed that is plain wrong.

However an inclined bed may well help people. It is a pity that he is not looking for a more plausible explanation of his results.

For example the effect may well be due to a different forces being applied to the spinal cord when sleeping or various others

[AndrewKFletcher]

I have seen far too many results David Not just spinal injury but Parkinson's disease, Multiple Sclerosis, Psoriasis, Cerebral Palsy, varicose veins oedema, renal failure bing reversed within a few hours of inclining the bed. How does this fit with your interpretation of IBT?

[daveshorts]

I do not have an explanation for IBT, all I know is that your theory you are hawking with IBT doen't fit with millions of observations in physics, chemisty and biology.

This is not to say that IBT does not work, just that your explanation of it is getting in the way of finding this out rigorously.

[AndrewKFletcher]

On the contrary it fits perfectly because the theory came before the inclined bed therapy. I wanted to test the theory on the body to see if there was any evidence that the incline had an effect on us. 4 weeks of IBT resulted in a varicose vein on my wife's leg going flat. It had been there for 16 years, used to bulge and ache. When this happened it related perfectly to my experiments. The vein being pulled in flies in the face of accepted literature.

[daveshorts]

That may be the case, however it contradicts billions of other observations made by other people who have properly documented the effect. Large amounts of science has been discovered by people using dubious models, not least electromagnetism.

For a start what have you done in your experiments to rule out the idea that this could just be a placebo effect? If people think something will work, for many conditions, it will to some extent work.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Also had amazing result with a child who has cerebral palsy and unable to walk up until the age of 12, when after 8 moths of IBT she walked at school for the first time. Possibly placebo?

[daveshorts]

It may be placebo, it may have been luck, or it is possible that IBT works, however your theory that you are basing it on contradicts so many millions of other observations (not just theories) throughout science that no-one is going to take you seriously enough to do a scientific trial so we can find out if it works, if you go on about the theory.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Millions of observations? Can you list them?

My theory fits with all observations in physics, biology, chenistry, plant physiology, ocean currents (See atlantic conveyor system) Animal physiology and human physiology! Why does it fit? Because it is correct!

[420sirsmokealot]

Hey, I have been doing this for about a month now and so far my feet/legs is burning and some times it feels like they are on fire. Is anyone else feeling this?

[AndrewKFletcher]

This is good news with spinal cord injury, you are going to feel more pain prior to a gain, this is the way it works. Significant improvements around the 4 months period. Try to perform any exercise possible while on the incline, repetion rather than anything strenuous. But the increased buring in the legs has been reported many times by people with spinal cord injuries trying the inclined bed. They describe it as having fire ants running over their skin.

[AndrewKFletcher]

Hi Danny Hi Phatcat

There are two threads containing a lot more information about spinal cord injuries including some fascinating case histories at Carecure do a web search to find it.

Please post a diary in The Europe forum at Carecure. This is where I am conducting a study on spinal cord injuries and your input would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards Andrew

[itsdanny83]

I got to try this I am a C-6 quad (SCI) going on 3 years I will let you know how it goes

[itsdanny83]

I have heard this before and this is the kinda of the same thing the doc wont to do to me but with surgery on my neck and skull (to help the blood flow) and he said that would help out so so much thats crazy

[PhatCat6t6]

I am paraplegic and am always looking for any and all techniques to reverse my condition.

I will be trying this theory of Mr. Fletcher's and will report on my progress in the months to come.