come on whats wrong with abit socialism its good it dosnt encorage laziness its a good thing it allows people to actually have a chance at a good life not just some minorty, capitalism has failed countries such as the central affrican countries and inda etc were we are told by these big capitalist hot shots that socialism is wrong they are the selfish narrow minded nob jocks, the only reason it works is because the majority of countries are capitalist WAKE THE FUCK UP
@properbo09 There are systems for a reason in this world. Economics, interest rates, growth. It's not a conspiracy to keep you in a little box. It's only by the miracle of consumer capitalism that you're not lying in your own shit dying at 43 with rotten teeth.
Do people actually take the time to think about why Thatcher's policies "destroyed" industry? The socialised industry of the 70s was generating a net loss year after year because their products were inferior and unable to compete with West Germany, Japan, and America. It was just an unprofitable money pit. So when Thatcher removed state subsidies and sold state shares, Darwinism kicked in and only the strongest companies survived. Socialism encourages laziness. Capitalism encourages innovation.
Thatcher is the reason we have riots, gangs and general youth disillusionment today. Before she destroyed Britain's industry men from 16 up were occupied with work. After she took all that apart an ocean of young men were left to their own devices as their employment options ran scarce. As the saying goes 'the devil makes work for idle hands'. Now we have gangs intimidating our elderly and the worst attitudes among elements of our young people in our history. Good job.
@Makashi11 You see forget that all 15 year olds and under were born into Labour and the 15s-18s were in the era Major. Thatcher did the right thing as it is proven that richer and stronger countries have Tertiary Industries and that Britain was a semi 3rd world manufacturing trade union dominated country with high unemployment and Inflation. If you don't have a job. Get on your bike.
To the comments below. I think everyone would rather have thatcher than tony blair, or should I say commissar Blair. He is hated by the left and right alike, Sleazeball.
To be perfectly blunt, I would rather have Thatcher than Blair. She may have been an arrogant tart but in theory, she stood up to establishment and society. Blair didn't do anything good for our country. He didn't give a shit about us. Thatcher DID think about Britain and it's policies but she turned them out the wrong way. It's brains not brawns.
@boffinme80: I actually agree I'd rather have Maggie than Blair. She was a heartless bitch, but at least she made no bones about it. Blair was a sleazy, slimy, odious man who tried to be all things to all people. And at least Maggie didn't use the connections she made while in office to make herself obscenely rich afterwards. I still can't stand her, but Blair was worse.
@MrCutsteel I'm glad you agree. Blair was a total embarrassment to our country and he should hang his head in shame. He was our PM yet he sided with the Middle East!
No wonder people hate him. I can't stand Thatcher either but she didn't leave Britain out in anything. She did push her limits on us and closing the mines up north wasn't the best idea. Though she said she did it to get most of us out of the strike.
I sometimes find it hard as a conservative to understand why she was the most hated prime minister in Britain of all time. And i still don't get why the Queen called her 'uncaring and confrontational' ''/
@adamb0000 Thatcher is the only prime minister we've ever had who stood up to the establishment - she despised the way they went along with socialism to keep their privilege, to the detriment of ordinary people. That's why she put so many noses out of joint. The Queen is also believed to have felt a bit of a rivalry with her! She was confrontational but uncaring is wrong - she believed very passionately that her policies were what was best for the country.
@adamb0000 Perhpas it was the utter destruction of industry, engineering, and turning once prosperous working class people and communites into waste lands and people of despair. Or the massive rush to sell off everything and place this country into the hands of wheeler dealers in the stock market? There`s just a sample of initial possibilits for you.
I love that you're posting this stuff. It shows what she was really like - a very smart woman with a keen and dry sense of humour, rather than the ridiculous caricature the left have tried to portray her as.
@Sirafrican Are you serious? A lot of British politicians are just making noises like clowns. You should check out more clips. They're so loud that you can barely hear anyone talking. American politicians are already corrupt and very fucked up. I don't want to see them acting like teenagers!
@ttiiyy i think america would b a lot better run if their politicians did act more like uk ones.
yes it seems childish and it is sometimes. however weak arguments are weeded out very fast as a result. also uk politicians seem to know their facts better than any american i can think of
@thatcheritescot Oh, please, darling, as an American, I know that our politicians are fucking idiots. However, with due respect, so far, I have not seen any prominent UK politician that has any SUBSTANCE whatsoever. Cameron is a tory, and, truthfully, he's a joke. He behaves like an annoying teenage boy.
What makes politicians like Thatcher and John Major so different from the rest of UK politicians is MATURITY. They're always calm and rational.
@thatcheritescot I really don't know if you include someone like Lady Thatcher as part of UK politicians. I think she's truly special. American politicians can learn a lot from her.
However, American politicians should never even try to imitate all the other UK politicians that are behaving like stupid teenagers. I'm truly disgusted by how immature they are. They're always joking and making MEANINGLESS comments.
@thatcheritescot BTW, I do not equate Thatcher with the rest of UK politicians at all. They're all losers. They are probably going to give into the pressure of European Union very soon.
Thatcher started present crisis 3:I think British economy is damaged beyond point of no return.All money pumped into the economy do not benefit local industry (since there is none) but global companies that sell cheaply made in Asia stuffs with up to 9-fold profit in the UK.It is similar problem for all western countries apart from Germany that still have good manufacturing.
Thatcher cannot be blamed for the fall of British manufacturing.
The unions made it impossible for manufactures to produce goods. They held Britain to ransom and drove the production output down and in turn they forced the price of goods up.
While other countries had deflation of production costs.
OK I didnt know that part of the story .But what was the reason for unions to keep prices up- it was suicide on global market.Prices should be kept down to increase demand for cheaper british goods-it is basic economy.Union leaders should have know that.Did union's leaders want any bribes ?Also average workers should know economy and do not trust union leaders blindly. Maybe Thather should have ban unions for the good of UK manufacturing while protecting british market from imported goods
Thatcher started present crisis 2: she should defend british manufacturing to the last even with ban on all made in asia goods.It would keep working class busy at work not living on the dole and taking drugs in once industrial places such as Manchester.Virtual speculation is the "honey-trap" for economy it is profitable in short term but increases cost of labor force on the global market and make them jobless since Asians can learn as much as we do but they are cheaper on the global market
Margaret Thatcher started present crisis part 1:She allowed decline of british manufacturing,coal mining and failed to protect the market from cheap import from Asia. She wrongly believed that speculation on the market will replace jobs lost in manufacturing.By allowing unlimited speculation on the stock market and property market she increased massively cost of live in the UK-thats why manufacturing declined even more since importers learned that can buy cheap "slave" in china for bowl of rise
I've given up on Labour and the Lib Dems. I learnt at an early age to dislike the Tories. There are millions of people in this country (with or without Scotland) with no-one to vote for. This is probably why the SNP have such a high following- people think they just stand for Scotland, rather than say the Scottish banks or the Scottish trade unions for that matter.
@anonUK i also learned at an early age to dislike the torys but i saw the light. they are not perfect no... but to me they are more real than the others. all other partys seem to just want to stand for the nice things in life. as for the snp.... their day will come. they only got in because labour did so badly.
also those millions of people with no one to vote for that u mentioned... thats because they cant agree on what to agree on....
@anonUK so who do u support? and if that answer is no one.... well thats even worse than saying communist... its very easy for everyone to criticise partys when they dont have an opinion themselfs. its no wonder u have had it with labour and lib dems. they stand for nothing these days
Is Britain still secure against the fall of capitalism. Thatcherism was the dinosaur of what´s breaking apart on us these days. Socialism or Labour´s role in this downfall in some ways even increased the hight. Capitalism has to be rethought in many ways
I am a Thatchers child born from a labour famiiy, I always took a deep intrest in politics from a young age, I wish that todays politicians could be as passionate as she was and truthful, she took no shit, But back to the point , credit has never been my thing, they would never let me have a credit card(thank the lord) so if I need a couple of quid I go to the Bank Of Dad, and I always payback on time , he doesnt give me extensions or let me borrow more, he beats me with a stick if its late ....
@RichardElden Sick, sums up what the right really are doens't it? Pathetic.
We'd have been in even deeper shit if people like you came along and just let British banks liquidate. Leading world economists all agree that deregulation was a major contributing factor to the financial crisis. It's amazing how you Thatcherites then advocate even more deregulation. Your phony "freedom" arguments are irrelevent and not practical by any stretch of the imagination.
@RichardElden Countries "go under" all the time I'm afraid, it's how capitalism works. Of course you'd prefer Countries to go under whilst they're isolated and without any sufficient trade links. Anything constructive to say about Britain's economic position though? Please enlighten me, because I think you're struggling.
False logic. The reason the post war controls on the economy were brought in were to prevent countries going under. It was about creating an economy where growth was negotiated with the need for fairer distribution of wealth, and controlling growth in better times to ensure harder times were less painful- particularly for the poor who night otherwise lose their homes or go without meals. We've simply created boom and bust lite- the only thing the neo-libs have done is to make the rich richer.
@patrickwright1 Is that why Cameron is running around shouting "the inherited Labour debt must be annhialated" when he's cutting public sector jobs and benefits whilst at the same time giving millionaires a nice tax break? Oh yes, because he wants a "fairer distribution of wealth". You must think I'm stupid.
@mattcorden95 No, I oppose Cameron's economic policy. I just think that it's ridiculous to support any economic system that allows countries to go through a boom and bust period rather than having slower growth and more stability. It also doesn't make sense to have an economy that serves the few- allowing the rich to get richer, the poor, poorer. In good times the gain should be shared, in bad times the pain shared. Cameron believes that the pain should only be levelled on the poor.
@RichardElden Again please back up your argument if you're going to run around shouting "Cameron is the greatest Prime Minister" and "the EU is a stupid idea". Like everyone on the right wing, you don't really have anything useful to say. Just pompous, self-righteous crap as usual.
@RichardElden David Cameron is a moron. He put his own well being before the interests of the Country. Think about it, the refusal to sign the treaty has pleased Euro sceptic back benchers immensely, leaving his position in his own Government considerably stronger. He's not acting in the interests of the country, he's acting in the interests of himself.
Also, just saying that the "EU is finished" does isn't an argument; probably because you don't really have one UKIP man.
@RichardElden So we're a tiny island that relies on tourism; you're saying that we can keep up with 26 united countries if we were do drop out? What about the Association of South-East Asian Nations or the African Union? All other countries have wised up and joined unions to strengthen their position; leaving our position as a potential independent country weaker and weaker. Unfortunately we still have people like you who put patriotism before economics. Yup, sounds like a Thatcherite to me.
@RichardElden For the avid Daily Mail readers amongst us that seems quite a popular view point. But for people who use their brain and don't listen to UKIP's pathetic attempt at an argument, the EU is necessary for Britain's well being.
Yes the co op does donate a small percentage to the labour party for reasons none other than they are an establishment founded on socialist principles.
What does a left-wing person do when they get their wages?
Spend it on alcohol, ciggies, weed and holidays.
They don't save it and buy a house, they just waste it and what a great idea ... it's no wonder they envy people who have big houses as they never will at the rate these people spend money, most of which is money that they don't have.
Oh my God, the co-op donate to the Labour party! Ever done a google search of Tory party donors? Jesus. The co-op are less than a drop in the ocean compared to the corporations, bankers and brokers who wanted this shower of shite through the door of number 10, regardless of whether they won the election or not.
Although a client of the Co-operative in many aspects, I think that there is things about their 'ethical policy' which is unethical. I don't think that they fund the Labour Party though. Unless someone else knows differently.
@alanheath They don't fund the Labour party any more. The co-operatives were actually a radical idea, companies run by the workers, sharing the profits among workforce and customers. That's changed, but the Tories always detested that idea.
If she went through the credit card companies and banks that subsidised the Tories, she'd still be woflling on like a plum-mouthed airheaded lunatic to this day.
@London2272 I agree with the idea of the co-operatives, not only that this is well within Tory thinking to have people share their own profits. It is true capitalism.
@GWHITE5287 Uh, yes we do. This is capitalism. This is how it booms and busts. You can't wait until it busts and then say it's not capitalism. It's a system that's always failed the majority, and it always will, until it's gone. It's going.
@London2272 You really think that we now live in a REAL capitalist society? This is nothing but crony capitalism. Bailing out banks, capitalist? Government support for businesses, capitalist? Central banks printing money, capitalist? Rubbish. These should of been allowed to fail and then the resulting downturn would have followed cleaning up the bad debt. I'm a free market capitalist, but I believe in competition for the many. People and businesses who make bad bets should not be given support!!
Buy a house,Spend 25 years paying double(at least)for it with the compounded interest added,Then when your old, watch the government come and take it off you to pay for your nursing and elderly care.Yup Home Ownership is a wonderful thing.Got rid of all the major maunfacturing in the UK,Privatised everything, Now the British have no jobs other then service sector dross and pay through the nose for their water and Gas to feed greedy shareholders Thatcher is the reason this country is in Trouble.
Yeah Maggie, and what about the multi-million pound sycophants who donate to the Tory party or shall we not mention them?
The only ones who are up Thatcher's ar*e are those who did very nicely thank you for themselves and let the plebs eat cake. No-one is better than anyone.
she told them......sure......but what a bloody waste of time - 'you said' 'I said' ...'you did''I did' politics - when will our government's just get on and deliver what they promised and stop this endless 'I'm better than you' crap!
and this is the reason we are in such a mess - people with no money, living on credit beyond their means - she was right on this just as she was on Europe. Socialist fuckwits.
@multimill No, the reason "we" are in such a mess is because too few undeserving people have been milking the cash cow, squirreling the proceeds into offshore accounts. The bankers, all tories. They screw up, we pay. They aren't in a mess at all. Thanks to "call me dave", they carry on as normal. FTSE bosses just had a 52 percent pay rise, the multimillion quid bonuses go on as normal, corporate tax fraud continues losing us 16 billion a year. That doesn't matter, the tories make US pay.
@multimill Right on Europe? After she killed manufacturing industry in this country, sold off prosperous British industry to foreigners for pittance, leaving tourism as our main source of income; you Thatcherites still have the audacity to dismiss the European Union as if we can cope just fine without it. Water companies? Electricity companies? Gas companies? Telephone companies? All of these are making MASSIVE profits before Thatcher came along and used her infamous "intelligence".
Not quite. Thatcher was opposing credit control while Labour was attempting to support it. She was pointing out the irony of the Labour party 'peddling credit cards' while maintaining a belief that excessive credit could endanger people's livelihoods. Thatcher- a fiscal liberal believed that people should make their own choices, and if they ruined their lives, it was their fault. Twenty years later, we now know she forgot to consider that unlimited credit can and has brought down economies.
@patrickwright1 and of course, we can all see what 13 years of Labour fiscal management did to reign in credit and the belief that living beyond means and creating jobs which never needed to exist to keep tax revenues coming in did for the nation.
Labour failed miserably to prevent people from ruining their lives by exceeding their credit limit. When there are no controls on credit, people, however many times they are educated otherwise, will see an incentive to borrow excessively. Thatcher destroyed the post war consensus, and the Labour party nauseatingly accepted the free market myth. I cannot defend the Labour party any more than I can defend Thatcher, both are responsible for failing to control the economy- both caused this mess.
What a retarded comment. We are in this mess because elites such as Mrs Thatcher's friends in the city banks pissed away all of our money and then we, the people, had to bail out their mistakes, and these same banks continue to pump out ridiculous bonuses and gamble with our money. The EU is full of capitalists, you have an extremely warped idea of socialism, fuckwit.
You are so illiterate it is painful, maybe when you learn our language you can start commenting on political issues. Get me facts, figures and sources for this please. I think maybe Thatcher's decimation of our country's industry has something to do with it? Maybe the privatisation of vital public services, deregulation to allow the tyranny of bankers, and the systematic crushing of the working class. What exactly is 'the truth', you fucking moron, I hope she dies very soon.
@joemcintyre94 I think what people need to understand is that it was not purely the conservatives and it was not purely the Labour party that got Britain into the mess it is in now. but by god its going to take both parties and even more than just the government but the whole population of the nation to bring it back out of the hole it is in!
@joemcintyre94 Everything you cite had in the short term bad effects for the economy. I lived through the 80's and remember Thatcher well. That being said, I think she was the best prime minister the U.K has seen since Churchill. The country, as a whole, was better off in 1990 than it was in 1979.
So funny, just yesterday I walked past a bus stop with an advert on the panel window, advertising the cooperative bank! lol needless to say, the layman depicted in the advert was an ethnic minority individual - he wouldn't vote Tory? Why not, considering the lib dems were strong in my area in recent years ;-)
Right, and how much of what you have mentioned still exists today? with a plethora of other issues added on too? So I rest my point, current govt. leaders are still cleaning up after her, I think if you knew the other side of the story (aka the vast majority of working class Britons) stories, and had the facts placed in front of you, loyalty to the conservative govt. would look about as rosy as your current hatred to Labour?
Fantastic, has she nothing better to complain about? someone should remind her about the legacy of social deprivation, homelessness and child poverty her policies have left behind which are proving to take decades to adjust and amend. Ironic isn't it; she's concerned 'credit card percentage donations', whoever they may be toward, before concerning herself with the prospect of British children growing up in poverty.
@ForeverComplaining Firstly, whoever said you should be responsible for anybodies offspring? thats ridiculous. Its a real shame that this kind of opinion still even exists; its not the dark ages, its not even the 1970's when the T gained her seat of power. You definitely are not responsible for peoples offspring but everybody has a responsibility within the society they live, you need to look a bit deeper into the issues causing social deprivation, and be thankful its not you in that situation.
@ForeverComplaining Firstly, whoever said you should be responsible for anybodies offspring? thats ridiculous. Its a real shame that this kind of opinion still even exists; its not the dark ages, its not even the 1970's when the T gained her seat of power. You definitely are not responsible for peoples offspring but everybody has a responsibility within the society they live, you need to look a bit deeper into the issues causing social deprivation, and be thankful its not you in that situation.
@bullinmullen 'Social deprivation', there is still tones of homeless people, whilst labour MPs like Shaun Woodward own 100s of millions of pounds worth of property, despite preaching socialist policies, with labour buddies, the milibands, who also own millions in property.
And No, It's not ridiculous, It's the truth, why should I have to to go to work and pay higher taxes, because some people want to breed loads of children, which they can't even afford to bring up?!
@bullinmullen 'Social deprivation', there is still tones of homeless people, whilst labour MPs like Shaun Woodward own 100s of millions of pounds worth of property, despite preaching socialist policies, with labour buddies, the milibands, who also own millions in property.
And No, It's not ridiculous, It's the truth, why should I have to to go to work and pay higher taxes, because some people want to breed loads of children, which they can't even afford to bring up?!
@ForeverComplaining Your right, you shouldn't have to pay for anybody else's children, but then should anybody else be responsible for your healthcare, your streets being cleaned, your roads being modified, your right to public policing?Are you aware how much public spending by the govt. actually covers, regardless of other peoples right to social benefit which I assume your bitter about? And quite simply homelessness was severely neglected in the 70s + 80s, perpetuating it massively.
@bullinmullen I don't use government healthcare, however, of course things like the roads should be funded, since we ALL use them. The Streets should be cleaned as we all use them. And people who pay tax use the NHS and people who pay taxes send their kids to state funded school.
But what does giving out large welfare payments to the work shy do for society? they take, but they don't give back. That's the problem.
@ForeverComplaining If they're not given benefits they end up costing more through the crime thats generated a lot of the time. Its a way to keep thieves and robbers inside with a can of Carlsberg Special Brew, 50" Samsung HDTV, sufficient cigarettes and money for cake and fried chicken.
Its a cheaper and all round more productive way of dealing with things as it also makes places more investable because of lower crime rates. Think of it as 'degenerate tax'.
@worldmayor2008 Very good point, however with family experience (my cousins) they still continue to commit crime and these people are currently holding our country to randsome, they are threatening that if they do any cuts/don't give them more, they will riot and damage private property!
I think if we stop them, and give the police powers in riot situations, then these people will stop breeding and this under class will end.
@ForeverComplaining Yeah the problem is it encourages dependency and expectation. Also since the majority of manufacturing and other industries were exported there's little a lot of them could do as generations of skills and expertise have been lost along with the basic jobs they could otherwise rely on. Its a tough cookie of a situation that I don't think any government party realistically has a solution for.
I think there is too many people and not the business to back it up or housing to house them all.
I mean my dad earned 120k a year in the 90s, and our house then was 90k at the time. Now the house is 400k and he earns less. So imagine how hard it is for younger people who become engineers etc. People are too busy saving their money for houses etc than spending it and I think that's one minor reason.
@ForeverComplaining Real Investments need to come from savings, this Keynesian model of borrow and spend is coming to an end. Artificially low interest rates lead to more borrowing and less savings and inflation runs rampant. The cost of everything goes up and the ones that lose out are the middle and the poor. 40 years of this madness and not letting the free market dictate interest rates is what has bankrupt the whole world. Banksters are getting rich and speculation is rampant. Great system..
@bullinmullen Also tbh I don't think you could say homelessness was severely neglected in the 70's in 1977, the squatting act came in, allowing people to just go in peoples houses and claim them.
Which is a stupid law, which is only encouraged by liberalism and is completely unfair on those who do work hard and purchase a home.
@bullinmullen Yes thats right Thatcher was elected by a landslide because everything was rosy in Britain in 1979 wasn't it
There were no strikes, there were no dead bodies piling up, their was no rubbish on the streets, inflation wasn't a problem.There was no problem with paying 33% income tax either, or the 83% for higher earners. why work to live when you can work for a government to squander your money
Oh 2008 the gap between rich & poor was at it's widest, Labour being in power for 11 years
LOL!!! Holy shit, she handed them their asses. Labour is so pathetic. I like how they're all just sitting there with their thumbs up their asses, I'd feel like an idiot too.
thats why the labour party should be banned from entering the parliament. they are not British politicians.. they are EUSSR politicians paid by socialists in europe to move britain closer to europe and surrendering britain's sovereignty and let brussels decide on every aspect of British life. NO WAY!
look at Norway and Switzerland, arent they better off being outside the eurozone? they proved there is life outside it. lol
we have impassioned speeches too, but i think the culture of the house of representatives is more reserved. they would feel rude to yell out approval or disapproval towards the speaker
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She really was an obnoxious piece of shit, but on the plus side she should go to hell soon and we can have a ‘we don’t pay the poll tax’ street party.
@newagemisfit A credit card company that invites you to set your own limit? Brilliant - let people plunge themselves hideously into debt and fund the Labour Party at the same time. In fact, that's pretty much what happened during the years Labour was in office. So once again, Thatcher was correct.
@JimShadyUK Thatcher isn’t complaining about a culture of easy credit! She is defending it! It is her government that deregulated the financial institutions! She is hitting back at those warning of the problems by trying to implicate them. The Cooperative Bank is not the Labour party and was forced to compete in a deregulated market. The fact that today’s Tory party receives half of its funding from the banks tells us who the banks believe really benefited from Thatcher’s deregulation.
@newagemisfit very true - the roots of the recession were laid down by thatcher in more than one way. but you gotta remember that new labour were also heavily supported by the city. while finance lobbyists prefer tories to labour for obvious reasons (they're all in the old boy network and already on the same page) they will always try to back the winner of the next election, irrespective of party, because what's the point in spending all that money on someone who won't reach power?
ahhh a right left paradigm ..... doesnt anyone realise yet that the arms who control these puppets we call politicians are connected to the same person above them.....
I always wonder how great our country would be if we hadnt fallen for social warfare and had blair and brown run our counry for 13 years...
pokerrich9 13 hours ago
come on whats wrong with abit socialism its good it dosnt encorage laziness its a good thing it allows people to actually have a chance at a good life not just some minorty, capitalism has failed countries such as the central affrican countries and inda etc were we are told by these big capitalist hot shots that socialism is wrong they are the selfish narrow minded nob jocks, the only reason it works is because the majority of countries are capitalist WAKE THE FUCK UP
properbo09 23 hours ago
@properbo09 There are systems for a reason in this world. Economics, interest rates, growth. It's not a conspiracy to keep you in a little box. It's only by the miracle of consumer capitalism that you're not lying in your own shit dying at 43 with rotten teeth.
tombaker1222 22 hours ago
@properbo09 dude i think u will find FRAUD and corruption are the reasons and not capitalism...
pokerrich9 13 hours ago
Do people actually take the time to think about why Thatcher's policies "destroyed" industry? The socialised industry of the 70s was generating a net loss year after year because their products were inferior and unable to compete with West Germany, Japan, and America. It was just an unprofitable money pit. So when Thatcher removed state subsidies and sold state shares, Darwinism kicked in and only the strongest companies survived. Socialism encourages laziness. Capitalism encourages innovation.
ClassValedictorian 1 day ago 3
Thatcher is the reason we have riots, gangs and general youth disillusionment today. Before she destroyed Britain's industry men from 16 up were occupied with work. After she took all that apart an ocean of young men were left to their own devices as their employment options ran scarce. As the saying goes 'the devil makes work for idle hands'. Now we have gangs intimidating our elderly and the worst attitudes among elements of our young people in our history. Good job.
Makashi11 1 week ago
@Makashi11 You see forget that all 15 year olds and under were born into Labour and the 15s-18s were in the era Major. Thatcher did the right thing as it is proven that richer and stronger countries have Tertiary Industries and that Britain was a semi 3rd world manufacturing trade union dominated country with high unemployment and Inflation. If you don't have a job. Get on your bike.
eddieoxford 4 days ago
To the comments below. I think everyone would rather have thatcher than tony blair, or should I say commissar Blair. He is hated by the left and right alike, Sleazeball.
Myurbanphilosophy 1 week ago
'A nice picture of the Eiffel Tower just to give you ALL SORTS of ideas' hahah Made me smile!
sexckatxx 1 week ago 9
To be perfectly blunt, I would rather have Thatcher than Blair. She may have been an arrogant tart but in theory, she stood up to establishment and society. Blair didn't do anything good for our country. He didn't give a shit about us. Thatcher DID think about Britain and it's policies but she turned them out the wrong way. It's brains not brawns.
boffinme80 1 week ago 4
@boffinme80: I actually agree I'd rather have Maggie than Blair. She was a heartless bitch, but at least she made no bones about it. Blair was a sleazy, slimy, odious man who tried to be all things to all people. And at least Maggie didn't use the connections she made while in office to make herself obscenely rich afterwards. I still can't stand her, but Blair was worse.
MrCutsteel 1 week ago
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@MrCutsteel I'm glad you agree. Blair was a total embarrassment to our country and he should hang his head in shame. He was our PM yet he sided with the Middle East!
No wonder people hate him. I can't stand Thatcher either but she didn't leave Britain out in anything. She did push her limits on us and closing the mines up north wasn't the best idea. Though she said she did it to get most of us out of the strike.
boffinme80 1 week ago
I sometimes find it hard as a conservative to understand why she was the most hated prime minister in Britain of all time. And i still don't get why the Queen called her 'uncaring and confrontational' ''/
adamb0000 2 weeks ago
@adamb0000 Thatcher is the only prime minister we've ever had who stood up to the establishment - she despised the way they went along with socialism to keep their privilege, to the detriment of ordinary people. That's why she put so many noses out of joint. The Queen is also believed to have felt a bit of a rivalry with her! She was confrontational but uncaring is wrong - she believed very passionately that her policies were what was best for the country.
kevinto1972 2 weeks ago
@adamb0000 Perhpas it was the utter destruction of industry, engineering, and turning once prosperous working class people and communites into waste lands and people of despair. Or the massive rush to sell off everything and place this country into the hands of wheeler dealers in the stock market? There`s just a sample of initial possibilits for you.
8corporal 1 week ago
This is just like a classroom!
MattMK45 2 weeks ago
how many years ago was this?
Ozzythenutter1046LS 2 weeks ago
I love that you're posting this stuff. It shows what she was really like - a very smart woman with a keen and dry sense of humour, rather than the ridiculous caricature the left have tried to portray her as.
kevinto1972 2 weeks ago
Should have been on hand with an mmse.
danieljonathanmartin 3 weeks ago
I wish Congress was like this.
Sirafrican 3 weeks ago
@Sirafrican Are you serious? A lot of British politicians are just making noises like clowns. You should check out more clips. They're so loud that you can barely hear anyone talking. American politicians are already corrupt and very fucked up. I don't want to see them acting like teenagers!
ttiiyy 2 weeks ago
@ttiiyy i think america would b a lot better run if their politicians did act more like uk ones.
yes it seems childish and it is sometimes. however weak arguments are weeded out very fast as a result. also uk politicians seem to know their facts better than any american i can think of
thatcheritescot 2 weeks ago
@thatcheritescot Oh, please, darling, as an American, I know that our politicians are fucking idiots. However, with due respect, so far, I have not seen any prominent UK politician that has any SUBSTANCE whatsoever. Cameron is a tory, and, truthfully, he's a joke. He behaves like an annoying teenage boy.
What makes politicians like Thatcher and John Major so different from the rest of UK politicians is MATURITY. They're always calm and rational.
ttiiyy 2 weeks ago
@thatcheritescot I really don't know if you include someone like Lady Thatcher as part of UK politicians. I think she's truly special. American politicians can learn a lot from her.
However, American politicians should never even try to imitate all the other UK politicians that are behaving like stupid teenagers. I'm truly disgusted by how immature they are. They're always joking and making MEANINGLESS comments.
ttiiyy 2 weeks ago
@thatcheritescot Let's face it. Thatcher is one of the very few UK politicians that use their brains.
How many UK politicians can really get their facts straight and make rational arguments in the same way that she did?
I know that our politicians are fucked up. But hey, at least they're forced to take turn to present their ideas.
Look at what's going in UK today. Is there any room for a rational argument anymore?
ttiiyy 2 weeks ago
@thatcheritescot BTW, I do not equate Thatcher with the rest of UK politicians at all. They're all losers. They are probably going to give into the pressure of European Union very soon.
ttiiyy 2 weeks ago
@thatcheritescot When there's so much chaos going on, no good lawmaker can make a clear case on any important public policy.
That's just my own opinion.
If you really think that the way these UK politicians behave works for Britain, you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
However, I don't think these morons really know what they're doing. American politicians are fucked up enough. I don't want to see them get worse.
ttiiyy 2 weeks ago
Thatcher started present crisis 4: I think solution for Western economy is return to basics but it would be painfull:
1)Ban on all speculation on the finacial market apart from basic trade bonds.minerals and shares only.
2)Devaluation and fixed rate of exchange of western currencies even with protests from brokers
3)High customs on all made in Asia goods and compulsory full custom check for every container
Western "easy way of life" is unsustainable without colonies
garden2010city 3 weeks ago
Thatcher started present crisis 3:I think British economy is damaged beyond point of no return.All money pumped into the economy do not benefit local industry (since there is none) but global companies that sell cheaply made in Asia stuffs with up to 9-fold profit in the UK.It is similar problem for all western countries apart from Germany that still have good manufacturing.
garden2010city 3 weeks ago
@garden2010city
Thatcher cannot be blamed for the fall of British manufacturing.
The unions made it impossible for manufactures to produce goods. They held Britain to ransom and drove the production output down and in turn they forced the price of goods up.
While other countries had deflation of production costs.
bighands69 2 weeks ago
OK I didnt know that part of the story .But what was the reason for unions to keep prices up- it was suicide on global market.Prices should be kept down to increase demand for cheaper british goods-it is basic economy.Union leaders should have know that.Did union's leaders want any bribes ?Also average workers should know economy and do not trust union leaders blindly. Maybe Thather should have ban unions for the good of UK manufacturing while protecting british market from imported goods
garden2010city 2 weeks ago
Thatcher started present crisis 2: she should defend british manufacturing to the last even with ban on all made in asia goods.It would keep working class busy at work not living on the dole and taking drugs in once industrial places such as Manchester.Virtual speculation is the "honey-trap" for economy it is profitable in short term but increases cost of labor force on the global market and make them jobless since Asians can learn as much as we do but they are cheaper on the global market
garden2010city 3 weeks ago
Margaret Thatcher started present crisis part 1:She allowed decline of british manufacturing,coal mining and failed to protect the market from cheap import from Asia. She wrongly believed that speculation on the market will replace jobs lost in manufacturing.By allowing unlimited speculation on the stock market and property market she increased massively cost of live in the UK-thats why manufacturing declined even more since importers learned that can buy cheap "slave" in china for bowl of rise
garden2010city 3 weeks ago
but she has no idea how the financial world/interest system works. and this is crucial. interest without restriction lets the world drowning in debt
visornet24 3 weeks ago
I paid my card off (finally) I learned my lesson! Never again will I "use it" to build credit! Fuck that.
pettyofficer30 3 weeks ago
Thatcherite Scot? How many of you are there?
anonUK 1 month ago
@anonUK 1.5 if u include my dog
thatcheritescot 1 month ago
@thatcheritescot
.5 of a Thatcherite? Is he an Orange Book LibDem, then?
anonUK 1 month ago
@anonUK lol as if the lib dems are even .5 thatcherite. lol
i tell u something though... even the torys are doing better than the lib dems up here
dont call my dog a lib dem again! lol
thatcheritescot 1 month ago
@thatcheritescot
I used to be a LibDem, then Nick Clegg made me see sense. It's even worse to be a yellow Tory than a blue Tory.
anonUK 1 month ago
@anonUK wow. it took nick clegg to make u see sense? so what are u now?
thatcheritescot 1 month ago
@thatcheritescot
I've given up on Labour and the Lib Dems. I learnt at an early age to dislike the Tories. There are millions of people in this country (with or without Scotland) with no-one to vote for. This is probably why the SNP have such a high following- people think they just stand for Scotland, rather than say the Scottish banks or the Scottish trade unions for that matter.
anonUK 1 month ago
@anonUK i also learned at an early age to dislike the torys but i saw the light. they are not perfect no... but to me they are more real than the others. all other partys seem to just want to stand for the nice things in life. as for the snp.... their day will come. they only got in because labour did so badly.
also those millions of people with no one to vote for that u mentioned... thats because they cant agree on what to agree on....
thatcheritescot 1 month ago
@anonUK so who do u support? and if that answer is no one.... well thats even worse than saying communist... its very easy for everyone to criticise partys when they dont have an opinion themselfs. its no wonder u have had it with labour and lib dems. they stand for nothing these days
thatcheritescot 1 month ago
@thatcheritescot I take it you oppose Scottish independence? (Though it would free most of Britain from Labour)
B21983 1 month ago
@B21983 yes i do oppose scottish independance.
thatcheritescot 1 month ago
@thatcheritescot good!
B21983 1 month ago
Is Britain still secure against the fall of capitalism. Thatcherism was the dinosaur of what´s breaking apart on us these days. Socialism or Labour´s role in this downfall in some ways even increased the hight. Capitalism has to be rethought in many ways
Chakkka11 1 month ago
a 32 second introduction? are u fucking kidding me?
goosefraba99 1 month ago
well - i support here in thi specific matter - credid cards are like a deal with the devil ....:-/
CapitanoGUC 1 month ago
Standard Labour Bullshit. Nothing's changed.
DanWelshy86 1 month ago
Why the long introduction
clintonwcarl 1 month ago
I am a Thatchers child born from a labour famiiy, I always took a deep intrest in politics from a young age, I wish that todays politicians could be as passionate as she was and truthful, she took no shit, But back to the point , credit has never been my thing, they would never let me have a credit card(thank the lord) so if I need a couple of quid I go to the Bank Of Dad, and I always payback on time , he doesnt give me extensions or let me borrow more, he beats me with a stick if its late ....
davyovtheford 1 month ago
What was the point of the first 32 seconds?
ElseMush 1 month ago
Long live Margaret Thatcher!
bagzie 1 month ago
Don't vote Tory any more in the UK they aren't real Tories, and barely in Canada. UKIP or Freedom.
bifgis 2 months ago
@bifgis Totally agree, what happened to this kind of rhetoric? It's so eloquent, so full of passion.
Zichiable 2 months ago
my god is this strue!!
Maleincornwall 2 months ago
@RichardElden Come on, you're flogging a dead horse. Ah, poor choice of words- your a Tory- one who practices necrophilia, bestiality and sadism.
patrickwright1 2 months ago
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patrickwright1 2 months ago
@RichardElden This conversation is over you sick, twisted fascist.
mattcorden95 2 months ago
@RichardElden Sick, sums up what the right really are doens't it? Pathetic.
We'd have been in even deeper shit if people like you came along and just let British banks liquidate. Leading world economists all agree that deregulation was a major contributing factor to the financial crisis. It's amazing how you Thatcherites then advocate even more deregulation. Your phony "freedom" arguments are irrelevent and not practical by any stretch of the imagination.
mattcorden95 2 months ago
@RichardElden Countries "go under" all the time I'm afraid, it's how capitalism works. Of course you'd prefer Countries to go under whilst they're isolated and without any sufficient trade links. Anything constructive to say about Britain's economic position though? Please enlighten me, because I think you're struggling.
mattcorden95 2 months ago
False logic. The reason the post war controls on the economy were brought in were to prevent countries going under. It was about creating an economy where growth was negotiated with the need for fairer distribution of wealth, and controlling growth in better times to ensure harder times were less painful- particularly for the poor who night otherwise lose their homes or go without meals. We've simply created boom and bust lite- the only thing the neo-libs have done is to make the rich richer.
patrickwright1 2 months ago
@patrickwright1 Is that why Cameron is running around shouting "the inherited Labour debt must be annhialated" when he's cutting public sector jobs and benefits whilst at the same time giving millionaires a nice tax break? Oh yes, because he wants a "fairer distribution of wealth". You must think I'm stupid.
mattcorden95 2 months ago
@mattcorden95 No, I oppose Cameron's economic policy. I just think that it's ridiculous to support any economic system that allows countries to go through a boom and bust period rather than having slower growth and more stability. It also doesn't make sense to have an economy that serves the few- allowing the rich to get richer, the poor, poorer. In good times the gain should be shared, in bad times the pain shared. Cameron believes that the pain should only be levelled on the poor.
patrickwright1 2 months ago
@patrickwright1 Apoligies - amen to that. I don't want to use Labour's cliche of "too far and too fast" but they're not far wrong.
mattcorden95 2 months ago
@RichardElden Again please back up your argument if you're going to run around shouting "Cameron is the greatest Prime Minister" and "the EU is a stupid idea". Like everyone on the right wing, you don't really have anything useful to say. Just pompous, self-righteous crap as usual.
mattcorden95 2 months ago
@RichardElden David Cameron is a moron. He put his own well being before the interests of the Country. Think about it, the refusal to sign the treaty has pleased Euro sceptic back benchers immensely, leaving his position in his own Government considerably stronger. He's not acting in the interests of the country, he's acting in the interests of himself.
Also, just saying that the "EU is finished" does isn't an argument; probably because you don't really have one UKIP man.
mattcorden95 2 months ago
@RichardElden So we're a tiny island that relies on tourism; you're saying that we can keep up with 26 united countries if we were do drop out? What about the Association of South-East Asian Nations or the African Union? All other countries have wised up and joined unions to strengthen their position; leaving our position as a potential independent country weaker and weaker. Unfortunately we still have people like you who put patriotism before economics. Yup, sounds like a Thatcherite to me.
mattcorden95 2 months ago
@RichardElden For the avid Daily Mail readers amongst us that seems quite a popular view point. But for people who use their brain and don't listen to UKIP's pathetic attempt at an argument, the EU is necessary for Britain's well being.
mattcorden95 2 months ago
Yes the co op does donate a small percentage to the labour party for reasons none other than they are an establishment founded on socialist principles.
MrPenfold84 2 months ago
What does a left-wing person do when they get their wages?
Spend it on alcohol, ciggies, weed and holidays.
They don't save it and buy a house, they just waste it and what a great idea ... it's no wonder they envy people who have big houses as they never will at the rate these people spend money, most of which is money that they don't have.
ForeverComplaining 2 months ago
When the speaker says 'Order, order', is he referring to ordering this credit card?
alanheath 2 months ago 2
We need another Maggie now... to sort the debt mess and the bully -boy unions.
54mayford 2 months ago
@54mayford I concur!
MrPenfold84 2 months ago
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Oh my God, the co-op donate to the Labour party! Ever done a google search of Tory party donors? Jesus. The co-op are less than a drop in the ocean compared to the corporations, bankers and brokers who wanted this shower of shite through the door of number 10, regardless of whether they won the election or not.
bolloxinator 2 months ago
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bolloxinator 2 months ago
Although a client of the Co-operative in many aspects, I think that there is things about their 'ethical policy' which is unethical. I don't think that they fund the Labour Party though. Unless someone else knows differently.
alanheath 2 months ago
@alanheath the co op does donate to the labour party
thatcheritescot 2 months ago
@thatcheritescot I will ask them for confirmation.
alanheath 2 months ago
@thatcheritescot only if you have a Labour Party Credit Card - same as any credit card that makes a donation to an organisation you chose.
kksf5774 1 month ago
@alanheath They don't fund the Labour party any more. The co-operatives were actually a radical idea, companies run by the workers, sharing the profits among workforce and customers. That's changed, but the Tories always detested that idea.
If she went through the credit card companies and banks that subsidised the Tories, she'd still be woflling on like a plum-mouthed airheaded lunatic to this day.
London2272 2 months ago
@London2272 I agree with the idea of the co-operatives, not only that this is well within Tory thinking to have people share their own profits. It is true capitalism.
alanheath 2 months ago
A thatcherite scot? Like a Jewish Nazi.
freddo27 3 months ago
@freddo27 lol so true
oppressednation 2 months ago 11
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Capitalism is the system of choice, unfortunately we do not live under that system anymore!
GWHITE5287 3 months ago
@GWHITE5287 Uh, yes we do. This is capitalism. This is how it booms and busts. You can't wait until it busts and then say it's not capitalism. It's a system that's always failed the majority, and it always will, until it's gone. It's going.
London2272 2 months ago
@London2272 You really think that we now live in a REAL capitalist society? This is nothing but crony capitalism. Bailing out banks, capitalist? Government support for businesses, capitalist? Central banks printing money, capitalist? Rubbish. These should of been allowed to fail and then the resulting downturn would have followed cleaning up the bad debt. I'm a free market capitalist, but I believe in competition for the many. People and businesses who make bad bets should not be given support!!
GWHITE5287 2 months ago
Buy a house,Spend 25 years paying double(at least)for it with the compounded interest added,Then when your old, watch the government come and take it off you to pay for your nursing and elderly care.Yup Home Ownership is a wonderful thing.Got rid of all the major maunfacturing in the UK,Privatised everything, Now the British have no jobs other then service sector dross and pay through the nose for their water and Gas to feed greedy shareholders Thatcher is the reason this country is in Trouble.
lndac02 3 months ago
@lndac02 100% right
peppersdog1 3 months ago 5
didn't realise thatcher stooped to mud-slinging
LarrytheAcerbic 3 months ago
jesus, british politics is like a lesson in bathos. what a bunch of braying fuckturds.
phlarrdboi 3 months ago
Yeah Maggie, and what about the multi-million pound sycophants who donate to the Tory party or shall we not mention them?
The only ones who are up Thatcher's ar*e are those who did very nicely thank you for themselves and let the plebs eat cake. No-one is better than anyone.
MrThecarebear 3 months ago
she told them......sure......but what a bloody waste of time - 'you said' 'I said' ...'you did''I did' politics - when will our government's just get on and deliver what they promised and stop this endless 'I'm better than you' crap!
tartandaddy 3 months ago
and this is the reason we are in such a mess - people with no money, living on credit beyond their means - she was right on this just as she was on Europe. Socialist fuckwits.
multimill 3 months ago 27
@multimill No, the reason "we" are in such a mess is because too few undeserving people have been milking the cash cow, squirreling the proceeds into offshore accounts. The bankers, all tories. They screw up, we pay. They aren't in a mess at all. Thanks to "call me dave", they carry on as normal. FTSE bosses just had a 52 percent pay rise, the multimillion quid bonuses go on as normal, corporate tax fraud continues losing us 16 billion a year. That doesn't matter, the tories make US pay.
G0IFI 2 months ago
@G0IFI nothing like ignoring reality!
multimill 2 months ago
@multimill Right on Europe? After she killed manufacturing industry in this country, sold off prosperous British industry to foreigners for pittance, leaving tourism as our main source of income; you Thatcherites still have the audacity to dismiss the European Union as if we can cope just fine without it. Water companies? Electricity companies? Gas companies? Telephone companies? All of these are making MASSIVE profits before Thatcher came along and used her infamous "intelligence".
mattcorden95 2 months ago
Not quite. Thatcher was opposing credit control while Labour was attempting to support it. She was pointing out the irony of the Labour party 'peddling credit cards' while maintaining a belief that excessive credit could endanger people's livelihoods. Thatcher- a fiscal liberal believed that people should make their own choices, and if they ruined their lives, it was their fault. Twenty years later, we now know she forgot to consider that unlimited credit can and has brought down economies.
patrickwright1 2 months ago
@patrickwright1 and of course, we can all see what 13 years of Labour fiscal management did to reign in credit and the belief that living beyond means and creating jobs which never needed to exist to keep tax revenues coming in did for the nation.
multimill 2 months ago
Labour failed miserably to prevent people from ruining their lives by exceeding their credit limit. When there are no controls on credit, people, however many times they are educated otherwise, will see an incentive to borrow excessively. Thatcher destroyed the post war consensus, and the Labour party nauseatingly accepted the free market myth. I cannot defend the Labour party any more than I can defend Thatcher, both are responsible for failing to control the economy- both caused this mess.
patrickwright1 2 months ago
@multimill
What a retarded comment. We are in this mess because elites such as Mrs Thatcher's friends in the city banks pissed away all of our money and then we, the people, had to bail out their mistakes, and these same banks continue to pump out ridiculous bonuses and gamble with our money. The EU is full of capitalists, you have an extremely warped idea of socialism, fuckwit.
joemcintyre94 1 month ago
@joemcintyre94 so gordon brown borrowing more money than every uk govt put together has nothing to do with the mess we are in?
seemss to me that u r the retard. a jaded little socialist that cant accept the truth.
u cant blame thatcher for problems that began 20 years after she had gone!
thatcheritescot 1 month ago
@thatcheritescot
You are so illiterate it is painful, maybe when you learn our language you can start commenting on political issues. Get me facts, figures and sources for this please. I think maybe Thatcher's decimation of our country's industry has something to do with it? Maybe the privatisation of vital public services, deregulation to allow the tyranny of bankers, and the systematic crushing of the working class. What exactly is 'the truth', you fucking moron, I hope she dies very soon.
joemcintyre94 1 month ago
@joemcintyre94 I think what people need to understand is that it was not purely the conservatives and it was not purely the Labour party that got Britain into the mess it is in now. but by god its going to take both parties and even more than just the government but the whole population of the nation to bring it back out of the hole it is in!
Gardenstatehomecomin 1 month ago
@joemcintyre94 Everything you cite had in the short term bad effects for the economy. I lived through the 80's and remember Thatcher well. That being said, I think she was the best prime minister the U.K has seen since Churchill. The country, as a whole, was better off in 1990 than it was in 1979.
neil73 1 month ago
@joemcintyre94 just the kind of 'blame everyone else except the Socialists' response I would expect. Fuckwit.
multimill 1 month ago
How do you like them apples? You socialist hypocrites !
hatinae 3 months ago
HAVE SOME OF THAT YOU LEFTIE FUCKWITS!
IvorGrumble 4 months ago 4
@IvorGrumble Shut up.
MrThecarebear 3 months ago
@IvorGrumble Some of what? All I heard was "woff woff woff, waddle waddle waddle". Was it impressive?
ToffClobberer 2 months ago
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@ToffClobberer If you can't afford something, don't buy it, you won't get into debt. Pretty Simple.
IvorGrumble 2 months ago
The Bank of England is choosing it`s ( or should that be our ) own credit limit. QE.
valarmanwe 4 months ago
So funny, just yesterday I walked past a bus stop with an advert on the panel window, advertising the cooperative bank! lol needless to say, the layman depicted in the advert was an ethnic minority individual - he wouldn't vote Tory? Why not, considering the lib dems were strong in my area in recent years ;-)
armand011 4 months ago
she was a terrorist
111jasy111 4 months ago
die soon bitch...hope its painfull
peppersdog1 4 months ago
Right, and how much of what you have mentioned still exists today? with a plethora of other issues added on too? So I rest my point, current govt. leaders are still cleaning up after her, I think if you knew the other side of the story (aka the vast majority of working class Britons) stories, and had the facts placed in front of you, loyalty to the conservative govt. would look about as rosy as your current hatred to Labour?
bullinmullen 5 months ago
Fantastic, has she nothing better to complain about? someone should remind her about the legacy of social deprivation, homelessness and child poverty her policies have left behind which are proving to take decades to adjust and amend. Ironic isn't it; she's concerned 'credit card percentage donations', whoever they may be toward, before concerning herself with the prospect of British children growing up in poverty.
bullinmullen 5 months ago
@bullinmullen Why should I be responsible for people spwaning babies out of their v*ginas?
Your baby, your priority!
People like yourself need to stop treating the government like the bank of mum and dad, it's disgusting.
ForeverComplaining 5 months ago
@bullinmullen Why should I be responsible for people spwaning babies out of their v*ginas?
Your baby, your priority!
People like yourself need to stop treating the government like the bank of mum and dad, it's disgusting.
ForeverComplaining 5 months ago
@ForeverComplaining Firstly, whoever said you should be responsible for anybodies offspring? thats ridiculous. Its a real shame that this kind of opinion still even exists; its not the dark ages, its not even the 1970's when the T gained her seat of power. You definitely are not responsible for peoples offspring but everybody has a responsibility within the society they live, you need to look a bit deeper into the issues causing social deprivation, and be thankful its not you in that situation.
bullinmullen 5 months ago
@ForeverComplaining Firstly, whoever said you should be responsible for anybodies offspring? thats ridiculous. Its a real shame that this kind of opinion still even exists; its not the dark ages, its not even the 1970's when the T gained her seat of power. You definitely are not responsible for peoples offspring but everybody has a responsibility within the society they live, you need to look a bit deeper into the issues causing social deprivation, and be thankful its not you in that situation.
bullinmullen 5 months ago
@bullinmullen 'Social deprivation', there is still tones of homeless people, whilst labour MPs like Shaun Woodward own 100s of millions of pounds worth of property, despite preaching socialist policies, with labour buddies, the milibands, who also own millions in property.
And No, It's not ridiculous, It's the truth, why should I have to to go to work and pay higher taxes, because some people want to breed loads of children, which they can't even afford to bring up?!
ForeverComplaining 5 months ago
@bullinmullen 'Social deprivation', there is still tones of homeless people, whilst labour MPs like Shaun Woodward own 100s of millions of pounds worth of property, despite preaching socialist policies, with labour buddies, the milibands, who also own millions in property.
And No, It's not ridiculous, It's the truth, why should I have to to go to work and pay higher taxes, because some people want to breed loads of children, which they can't even afford to bring up?!
ForeverComplaining 5 months ago
@ForeverComplaining Your right, you shouldn't have to pay for anybody else's children, but then should anybody else be responsible for your healthcare, your streets being cleaned, your roads being modified, your right to public policing?Are you aware how much public spending by the govt. actually covers, regardless of other peoples right to social benefit which I assume your bitter about? And quite simply homelessness was severely neglected in the 70s + 80s, perpetuating it massively.
bullinmullen 5 months ago
@bullinmullen I don't use government healthcare, however, of course things like the roads should be funded, since we ALL use them. The Streets should be cleaned as we all use them. And people who pay tax use the NHS and people who pay taxes send their kids to state funded school.
But what does giving out large welfare payments to the work shy do for society? they take, but they don't give back. That's the problem.
ForeverComplaining 5 months ago
@ForeverComplaining If they're not given benefits they end up costing more through the crime thats generated a lot of the time. Its a way to keep thieves and robbers inside with a can of Carlsberg Special Brew, 50" Samsung HDTV, sufficient cigarettes and money for cake and fried chicken.
Its a cheaper and all round more productive way of dealing with things as it also makes places more investable because of lower crime rates. Think of it as 'degenerate tax'.
worldmayor2008 3 months ago
@worldmayor2008 Very good point, however with family experience (my cousins) they still continue to commit crime and these people are currently holding our country to randsome, they are threatening that if they do any cuts/don't give them more, they will riot and damage private property!
I think if we stop them, and give the police powers in riot situations, then these people will stop breeding and this under class will end.
ForeverComplaining 3 months ago
@ForeverComplaining Yeah the problem is it encourages dependency and expectation. Also since the majority of manufacturing and other industries were exported there's little a lot of them could do as generations of skills and expertise have been lost along with the basic jobs they could otherwise rely on. Its a tough cookie of a situation that I don't think any government party realistically has a solution for.
worldmayor2008 3 months ago
@worldmayor2008 Good point!
I think there is too many people and not the business to back it up or housing to house them all.
I mean my dad earned 120k a year in the 90s, and our house then was 90k at the time. Now the house is 400k and he earns less. So imagine how hard it is for younger people who become engineers etc. People are too busy saving their money for houses etc than spending it and I think that's one minor reason.
ForeverComplaining 3 months ago
@ForeverComplaining Real Investments need to come from savings, this Keynesian model of borrow and spend is coming to an end. Artificially low interest rates lead to more borrowing and less savings and inflation runs rampant. The cost of everything goes up and the ones that lose out are the middle and the poor. 40 years of this madness and not letting the free market dictate interest rates is what has bankrupt the whole world. Banksters are getting rich and speculation is rampant. Great system..
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ForeverComplaining 3 months ago
@bullinmullen Also tbh I don't think you could say homelessness was severely neglected in the 70's in 1977, the squatting act came in, allowing people to just go in peoples houses and claim them.
Which is a stupid law, which is only encouraged by liberalism and is completely unfair on those who do work hard and purchase a home.
ForeverComplaining 5 months ago
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@bullinmullen Why should I be responsible for people spwaning babies out of their v*ginas?
Your baby, your priority!
People like yourself need to stop treating the government like the bank of mum and dad, it's disgusting.
ForeverComplaining 5 months ago
@bullinmullen Yes thats right Thatcher was elected by a landslide because everything was rosy in Britain in 1979 wasn't it
There were no strikes, there were no dead bodies piling up, their was no rubbish on the streets, inflation wasn't a problem.There was no problem with paying 33% income tax either, or the 83% for higher earners. why work to live when you can work for a government to squander your money
Oh 2008 the gap between rich & poor was at it's widest, Labour being in power for 11 years
markyboy1704 5 months ago
To mulitimil. It's not half as funny as seeing the moronic right posters on here. LOL.
curlylox100 5 months ago
Or-or-order
RichardForkins 5 months ago
it's fascinating to read the comments from Socialist morons LOL!!
multimill 5 months ago
love to see the british and their politics. so funny and yet so serious.
gairero 5 months ago
classic!
revizack 5 months ago
LOL!!! Holy shit, she handed them their asses. Labour is so pathetic. I like how they're all just sitting there with their thumbs up their asses, I'd feel like an idiot too.
bweazel 5 months ago
thats why the labour party should be banned from entering the parliament. they are not British politicians.. they are EUSSR politicians paid by socialists in europe to move britain closer to europe and surrendering britain's sovereignty and let brussels decide on every aspect of British life. NO WAY!
look at Norway and Switzerland, arent they better off being outside the eurozone? they proved there is life outside it. lol
NO MORE EUSSR. NO MORE EURO CRAP.
NO MORE EU SOCIALIST INTEGRATION
NewRuss2011 5 months ago
i love british government
xD
we have impassioned speeches too, but i think the culture of the house of representatives is more reserved. they would feel rude to yell out approval or disapproval towards the speaker
i wish ours was more raucous like yours lol
darris321 6 months ago
HAHAHA
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
These things are far more humorous in retrospect.
Elephantintheroom01 6 months ago
Die as soon as you vile creature of the night you crwedit to the nation (alien nation) this same bitch Implored ☭Polish people to take to the streets when Solidarity was on the rise. If people would have done it here ( u.k ) she would have called in the army . ☭
chestikov2011 6 months ago
She really was an obnoxious piece of shit, but on the plus side she should go to hell soon and we can have a ‘we don’t pay the poll tax’ street party.
newagemisfit 7 months ago
@newagemisfit A credit card company that invites you to set your own limit? Brilliant - let people plunge themselves hideously into debt and fund the Labour Party at the same time. In fact, that's pretty much what happened during the years Labour was in office. So once again, Thatcher was correct.
JimShadyUK 7 months ago
@JimShadyUK You seem to be talking nonsense, the Labour party isn’t a bank or a credit card company, it is a political organisation.
newagemisfit 7 months ago
@JimShadyUK Thatcher isn’t complaining about a culture of easy credit! She is defending it! It is her government that deregulated the financial institutions! She is hitting back at those warning of the problems by trying to implicate them. The Cooperative Bank is not the Labour party and was forced to compete in a deregulated market. The fact that today’s Tory party receives half of its funding from the banks tells us who the banks believe really benefited from Thatcher’s deregulation.
newagemisfit 7 months ago
@newagemisfit very true - the roots of the recession were laid down by thatcher in more than one way. but you gotta remember that new labour were also heavily supported by the city. while finance lobbyists prefer tories to labour for obvious reasons (they're all in the old boy network and already on the same page) they will always try to back the winner of the next election, irrespective of party, because what's the point in spending all that money on someone who won't reach power?
bobzilla211 6 months ago
3 types of people vote labour, 1) immigrants, 2) people who dont want to work, 3) people who dont understand politics
hinson92 8 months ago 4
@hinson92
3) people who don't understand politics *especially economics
403766 8 months ago 2
@hinson92 Too right!!! put your right hand in the air and say HEIL
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evandrigor 8 months ago
Both parties should be thrown out on their asses like giant sacks of shit!
pupil8 9 months ago
Just dont vote Tory - its a party obsessed with going backwards
aneurin01 9 months ago
ahhh a right left paradigm ..... doesnt anyone realise yet that the arms who control these puppets we call politicians are connected to the same person above them.....
NPFRLabel 9 months ago
@MCDOUGALLSON lol na i will leave that to a good thatcherite comany like tesco. they show the crappy co-op who is boss every day. lol.
thatcheritescot 9 months ago
@thatcheritescot What's it like being such a sad, selfish human being?
mellowNdark 8 months ago
VOTE LABOUR!!!!!!!!!!
kkrules13 9 months ago
@kkrules13 Well that makes 3people then
Dalek1230 9 months ago