101 East - Asia's arms race - 5 March 09 - Part 2

[wdmun]

American forced the Asian countries to exercise with it that it makes the tension in Asia because America is afraid of China taking over its role. It makes a net of contain for China. Actuary America is source of the tension in Asia.

[vilhelmoberg1973]

American softpower = oxymoron

It's only soft before they take military viagra.

[JUKIO01]

asian nations were stronger than white european nations back in the days, they just werent military stronger, thats all, economics i mean. china was the most powerful nation 500 years ago, their making a comeback today

[TimeManInJail]

soft power = japan

[shantiluke]

The west is pushing the arms race by building tensions and in turn supplying arms to the parties involved which will fuel the growth of their arms industry and also in tapping the resources in those areas..We are all playing in the games set up by the west and the West is getting restless since they realise their grip in this Game is getting loose slowly ..

[Pitzfirez]

M16 wow -_-

[jamrock1ful]

There is a East Asia arms race and a North African army race and a Middle East arms race! HHHHMMMMM!

[ToiYeuDatNuocCuaMinh]

"democracy" against "communism" ? These people still live in the 60s that still believe in such thing. Asia should rise !!! Unite and rip USA to pieces I support u all and thats when the world is truely "free" , free and burn the US currency that fucking declining toilet paper which the FED print like crazy.

[frtyuj]

@ToiYeuDatNuocCuaMinh You do realize that most of Asia is aligned with the US, right? But don't worry, you've got North Korea on your side. And maybe Myanmar.

[12gifts1]

well thats how we all got here

[12gifts1]

Hi daddy we have lots of catching up to do and I love you so much.

[12gifts1]

see YOU IN BATTLE ,i AM A MARINE AND WILL FIGHT FOR MY NATION

[Shadowcry1000]

@12gifts1 you have to get here first haha

Marines always thinking with their dicks before their brains

[kimie010]

My dad is in this one too go dad :D woot WWIII is building nicely

[lenadfan]

Poor USA has no money to invest in its military!

tch tch!!

[catbakkorrel]

but they keep spending money in Military...

such a shame that they spend so much money for the killing industry... you could do great things with thaty kind of money......

[USAAIRPOWER]

US/Belgium Small Arms:

-Assault Rifle:(Bushmaster ACR, FN SCAR L/H, M468, HK 416, HK 417, LWRC M6A4, & Robinson Armament XCR)

-Machine Gun:(M240L, Mk 46, & Mk 48)

-Sniper Rifle:(Cheytac M200 Interventions & Barrett M107A1)

-Grenade Launcher:(XM302)

-Sub machine Guns:(Knight PDW & TDI Kriss)

[USAAIRPOWER]

-Quick Kill Active Protection Systems

-10 Variants of Stryker

-M777A2

-M252 Mortar

-Mk 47 Striker

-Intelligent Munitions System

[USAAIRPOWER]

Mine Resistant Ambush Protected:

-M-ATV ($440,000)

-Buffalo ($1.1 million)

-Caiman (4x4 $442,000 & 6x6 $469,000)

-Cougar/TSV (4x4 $500,000, 6x6 $600,000)

-MaxxPro ($550,000 & Dash $716,000)

-MMPV ($737,000)

-RG-33 4x4 ($1.6 million)

-RG-33L ($523,000)

[USAAIRPOWER]

US Military Equipments Sale:

-MV-22B Osprey ($70 Million)

-UH-60M Black Hawk ($51.67 Million)

-CH-47F Chinook ($32 Million)

-CH-53K Super Stallion (>$24.36 Million)

-AH-64D Apache Longbow Block 3 ($14.0 Million)

-AH-1Z Viper (>$10.7 Million)

-UH-1Y Venom (?)

-Bell Quad Tilt Rotor

[USAAIRPOWER]

US Military Sale Equipments: -HIMARS ($3.4 Million) -THAAD -Upgraded PAC-3 Patriots -MEADS -SL-AMRAAM -HUM-RAAM -EFV ($12.0 Million) -M60-2000 MBT -AN/TWQ-1 Avenger -THEL/MTHEL -THEL/MTHEL (Available in 2015) design to vaporize any type of missiles, UAV, Ships, war machines, & aircraft including Stealth aircraft. -Global hawk UAV Block 30/40

[USAAIRPOWER]

US Military Equipments Sales: -F-15SE Silent Eagle ($100 Million) -F-18E/F Super Hornet Block 2 ($95 Million) -F-16E/F Super Viper Block 70 ($50 Million) -F-35A CTOL Lightning II (~$68 Million) -F-35B STOVL Lightning II (~$87 Million) -F-35C CV Lightning II (~$92 Million) -C/CC-130J Super Hercules (C $60 Million & CC $64 Million) -C-17A Globemaster 3 ($329 Million) -E-2D Advance Hawkeye ($207 Million) -737 AEW&C ($200 Million) -P-8 Poseidon ($277 Million)/Export($262 Million) -EA-18G ($95 Mil.)

[minghan05]

I agree wif the last stmt made by the guy about USA overhyping/over-reacting to this China emergence.This may provoke them into doing exactly what the USA fear most. USA is still techno more advanced than China at least for the next 5-10 years. USA constant harping on Chn show her non-confidence. What is worrying about China is not so much its military might, it's that she may flex her economic muscle instead. I see the 21st century as a war on the economic front rather than on the battle field.

[Cloyde100]

@minghan05 Doubt the US will even last, 5 years let alone 10. The stupid government is spending money, printing money and borrowing money almost non stop. It is basically killing itself. Its digging a grave, the very grave it will be soon be resting in.

Don't get me wrong I like the US, (as with all countries), despise the government, but still like the country.

[EpicIzzy]

if china try to attack US allie then all china import/ export goods will be haulted stand still. Im not worry because it depend on the whole world to survive.

[Wilmot1846]

China always talks about non-interference in other countries afairs. But in Burma, they are totaly intervening by providing diplomatic comfort and arms to the Junta. There is no such thing as non-intervention, just the right and wrong side. And there is no question about which side China is on viz. Burma.

[Congo4life]

So this video is saying that U.S. should dominate the world and every other country should not spend any military budget and stay low. Anyone see what wrong with this picture?

[xxvolcomkidxx13]

no:)

[jimmyjamesWang]

not one ask you, you yankee redneck!

[xxvolcomkidxx13]

rofl i am a mclassy american im skinny and not a redneck and im active u fagot

[12gifts1]

@Congo4life I see nothing wrong with the U.S.A ruling the world and that includes your country.

[humpingbird]

@Congo4life

In simpler terms, what US is portraying is - "I have a long stick in which I can beat up anyone I'd like. You can make your own stick too in defence but your stick must not be longer or as long as mine" - Double Standards: The American Way.

[asian714cali]

@Congo4life lol yes

[youareajackass2005]

I think you toched some sensitive nerves here. China is trying to keep low profile and everyone knows China is interfering in Southeast Asia. I pulled you up by plus one!

[sageunr]

Let's stop killing world all of you.

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[ratanasu]

how many enemies that the western world have china never occupy indonesia thailand philippine singapore Malaysia and Indochina American & european did those country they might have some memory what western power done to them in the pass so it can be in present be caution asia people.

[covertcovenant]

I wish those idiot's that waste their time on Rush Limbough would watch this and learn a bit about their tax dollar spending... ignorance will cause ones doom, just look at the Romans.

[Type59]

Rush Lim, lol. Republicans have shot themselves in the foot by propagating him as leader.

[virvikramaditya]

go asia go!!! now its your turn to lead the world . . .

[LILUCKSMO80]

Natural Resources coal, iron ore, petroleum, natural gas, mercury, tin, tungsten, antimony, manganese, molybdenum, vanadium, magnetite, aluminum, lead, zinc, uranium, hydropower potential (world's largest) china ^ india as less

Natural Resources coal (fourth-largest reserves in the world), iron ore, manganese, mica, bauxite, titanium ore, chromite, natural gas, diamonds, petroleum, limestone, arable land

[camcan004]

Aljazeera use spell check!!!

[jankren]

Asia shall be the center of civilization soon!

[dinamo4889]

Historically in china when people return to the country side revolts often happen. Today due to economic turmoils people in China are indeed returning to farm life which eventually will lead to potential reforms in government. Modern Asia is in my opinion will face Napoleonic style wars due to lack of natural resources.

[jankren]

What natural resources? We have lots of them especially compared to Europe.

[Mxyzptlk562]

Pretty big generalization. If civilization can reach places like Pakistan and Afghanistan, then that would be a great thing for all the world. Otherwise, East Asia and South Asia have been centers of civilization for thousands of years.

[jankren]

Fuck Afghanistan and Pakistan. For me Asia is the Eastern part of Asia habitated by Mongoloid people Asians.

Fuck the Eurocentric map which lumps together countless peoples of different cultures and nations together into a massive continent called 'Asia' just because they were too stupid to know what existed east of Europe.

[Type59]

lol. Have you been Pakistan? or basedopinions on news reports?

[Shadowcry1000]

Civilization has been in the Indus valley since before you Europeans learned to stop eating shit.

So take your ignorance and go fuck yourself

[Mxyzptlk562]

You know your four letter words very well. However, your reading comprehension seems to be very much lacking. What part of my statement did you disagree with? I very clearly stated that civilization in Asia goes way back. However, it is pretty clear that Pakistan and Afghanistan are currently having problems.

Europeans eating shit? Grow up.

[Shadowcry1000]

Your statements imply that Afghanistan and Pakistan do not have the same level of civilization as India or China. Which is false, as both areas are generalizations as there was no such thing as either China nor India back in the day.

If I did misread you, I apologize. For I assumed you were an ignorant poster.

[Mxyzptlk562]

Historically speaking you are correct - they are great centers of civilization. On a more contemporary scale, however, I don't think they are. That is why I said they are currently having problems.

And, let's face it, even if you are fan of the more radical movements in Afghanistan and Pakistan, you have to admit that they are huge part of the problem. They Taliban destroyed numerous works of art and history when they were in power. And in Pakistan they try to intimidate those who sing & dance

[Shadowcry1000]

Historically they were, at the moment they are in trouble. I agree with you.

[Shadowcry1000]

The corrupt government in Pakistan since Bhutto( the dude) has run Pakistan from the golden age of Ayub Khan to the ground. The Taliban themselves were formed out of the destitute afghan refugees.

Different factions within the Taliban acted on their own accord. The Bamiyan Buddhas were destroyed by a couple of people, and ironically the first people who defaced them were the British who first came into Afghanistan

[Mxyzptlk562]

I do remember when the Buddhas were destroyed by the Taliban. There was great outrage the world over when the the Taliban made their intentions to destroy them known, but yet they went ahead with it anyway.

But I guess that are barbarians with any group of people as your point about the British demonstrates.

[Shadowcry1000]

Well the point I am trying to make is that there are different factions for the same group. Take for example the Mongols under Chinggis had a radically different approach to culture than Khubilai and his patronage of Chinese civilization.

[strongestass]

China has one central, archeologically proven centralized dynastic state named "shang" since 1600 b.c, and legends goes that Xia dynasty goes 1000 years before being replaced by Shang.

China is not a generalization, it may have been the case with India, but for most of the times China is a single entity, one that has the longest continuation in human history and one that has survived till this day.

Even when all of the countries we know of now fall, there will still be China

[Shadowcry1000]

Uhm legends do not account for much since they are often based on real history. You see Huang di pretty much has the same achievements as Emperor Wu. Additionally there is not that much continuity between the shang dynasty and modern china, dna wise qin china has a larger influx of steppe dna due to a depopulation crisis after the fall of the shang.

Every nation has a continuous history, no one just restarts as soon as they are conquered.

[strongestass]

Shang was defeated by Zhou in 1046 b.c , the state of Qin, is founded in 778 BC under the suzerainty of Zhou dynasty--there is hundreds of years in the gap. And that war never results in a "depopulation crisis".

The Qin state is established by the eastern Yin Family with their clan members. Their wars with the Qiang, a sino-tibetan instead of a "steppe people", had made them more warlike and installed an efficient bureaucracy. The Qin people had very little intermarriage with them, if at all.

[Shadowcry1000]

True, however the intermarriage is often overlooked in the history. According to what I have read from Hidehiro Okada, the wars between the Chinese states at that tiem and later depopulated the region allowing for the growth of steppe tribes which moved in. Genetically East Asia is mixed between several groups, so for example emperor Huizong had xianbei blood but is considered Han. Oh I am treating the Qiang as steppe because I see them as nomadic, I do not mean Altaic.

[strongestass]

As for intermarriage, I would say Prior to Qin and Han dynasty, Chinese are a rather homogeneous group, but after successions of invasions and conquests, Chinese as a collective term should be viewed a culture entity, rather than an ethnic entity, if you read my profile page and you understand Chinese, you can see that I myself am an ethnic Manchu, but nevertheless since I recognize Chinese culture and follows its principle, then by any means I am Chinese.

[Shadowcry1000]

I disagree there was no such thing ethnically as Chinese prior to the ROC trying to create an ethnic group. This was made due to the need to distinguish simply us ( ROC favorable people) from them ( Manchus or monarchists) As you even say Chinese is a cultural definition so it is a generalization. You see Hakka people are not the same as Zhuang and were to considered Chinese until very recently.

[strongestass]

And if you are ethnic mongol I think you will understand that a lot of your people reside in Inner Mongolia, and they know how powerful culture annihilation is. "Annihilation" is usually used pejoratively, but I do believe that a benign form of culture annihilation is beneficial, able to rid the world of ethnic tensions and conflicts.

I do not mean to offend you, but I think the whole of East Asia is ideal for culture homogeneity. All its peoples are closely knitted, culturally or historically.

[Shadowcry1000]

Sorry but that is quite offensive, not just to me but to anyone else who has had their culture stripped away. It is not beneficial at all because it only strengthens state control and makes your nation genocidal. In that sense you are no better than the Indonesians under Sukrano who forced the Chinese to abandon their culture and history in order to become Indonesian. The world is close knitted and frankly I would like to maintain my cultural difference as it makes me unique.

[strongestass]

Actually Han Chinese is quite complicated people talking about their blood. Paternally it is one of the most homogeneous nations on earth, with over 60 percent of them sharing one strain, yet maternally they are quite mixed, suggesting that Han Chinese had been a genetic donor rather than receiver.

[Shadowcry1000]

You are right about genetics being complicated. Han blood has a complicated history, and I know you know how chinese princesses would be married to barbarians in order to sinicize them. Even genetic markers show a difference from north Chinese to South Chinese.

[havocrein]

Only the maternal side though, the father side as DNA study showed, its not 60% but up to 78% amongst the Han Chinese having all share the same gen.

[strongestass]

When I see China is different as the other nations, is that it has preserved its ancient customs, rituals, histories, arts, literature and philosophies from its very founding moments till this day. For nations you might argue that when conquered that they still has a continuity, but their culture is lost. And culture is what is important in preserving one's identity. Just take this example. The Gothic tribes are, by any means, not German. Though you ethnically they are close if not the same.

[Shadowcry1000]

Not technically, Every nation has done the same thing china has done. Modern Chinese people do not wear hanfu for example, Confucianism does not play an important role in government nor the legalism of qin does either. China's modern culture is as estranged from Han dynasty as Modern Pakistan is estranged from the Indus valley civilization. Culture evolves meaning that the same culture that exists in the past is different from today. Arguably China has preserved its past same as other nations

[strongestass]

Confucianism is still a dominant school of thought, it is not about old men wearing robes and talking about virtues, but rather it's a way of life deeply immersed in each Chinese's daily business. Well if you have lived amongst you will know what I am talking about : being modest and respect to elders, keeping things to yourself and learning from your peers. There might seems to be nothing special about it, but that's what confucianism is about: being pragmatic and mundane.

[Shadowcry1000]

Confucianism is no longer the dominant school of thought in China and has not been for around one hundred years since the Qing fell. It was replaced by a pseudo-Western Chinese legalism in the ROC then fused with Communistic Ideas after 1949. What you are describing is more a way of life rather than a political ideology. In India, Mongolia, Vietnam or mostly anywhere in Asia filial piety is predominant in our Asian culture. Confucianism is rather the bureaucratic nature or political ideology.

[strongestass]

that is a gross exaggeration, I read poetry written from the time, I studied history annals compiled at the time, I even eat the same rice as cultivated in that dynasty. Chinese characters as carriers of Chinese thoughts have only had minor modifications in thousands of years, and what I succeed from those people of 2000 years ago is INVALUABLE. Indus Vally Civilization had nothing left to India or Pakistan save from an unanswered question of how it suddenly ends.

[Shadowcry1000]

True, however much of the continuity remains similar ot the shang or xia dynasty. we still do not know a lot about the xia dynasty save for legends which are unreliable to say the least. Even the shang dynasty supposedly had an strange ending where we still do not know what really happened. Chinese thought actually had radical change several times throughout the centuries.

[strongestass]

Actually Chinese society experienced maturation very rapidly, and that makes it retaining lots of tribal practices: worshiping ancestors, stressing sacrifices and rituals. Chinese have gone through radical changes through the millennium, but a lot of its culture basis, that is its pragmatism and ability to absorb new elements into traditions, is left intact.

[strongestass]

The adoption of barbarian dressing practices by King Wuling of Zhao, the annexation of Ba and Shu Kingdom by Qin and subsequent adoption of their clothing and cultivation practices. and later Emperor Wu of Han's complete copy of Xiongnu's Calvary Troops, the modification of Buddhist Thoughts to Chinese needs(Chan Buddhism take one) , and later confucianists such as Dong Zhongshu of Han, Chen Li, Chen Xianof Song, Wang Yangming, Zhu Xi of Ming, they can all be classified as "neo-Confucianist"

[strongestass]

You see what I am stressing here is that Chinese is a very pragmatic people, they are not as stubbornly traditional as we tend to believe, and those neo-Confucian interpret Confucius as they like, they are very technical and persuasive in their rhetorics, and are not blatantly distorting. Yet actually it is this pragmatism that saves the continuation of Chinese culture, no matter how radical, successions of culture changes is far better than the abandonment of one culture practice entirely.

[Shadowcry1000]

Take for example the introduction fo Buddhism in the Han dynasty( or wei depends on who u talk to) changed the course of Chinese thought forever, and utubes stupid character restrictions prevent me from going into detail here but also the introduction of Manichean thought from persia, Christianity in modern day, communism, Neo Confucianism during the Yuan dramatically changed Chinese political and philosophical thought.

[iqabaad]

Umm as I recall the Indus valley culture collapsed About 3500bp and then the Indo-aryan groups entered and established themselves as the dominant cultural entity. And as far as Europe goes, take another look brother

[Shadowcry1000]

Dude , there have been several civilizations there since 3500bp.

Europe what about it?

[12gifts1]

@Shadowcry1000 What resturant do you get your shit at it must be good for you to recommend to us motherfucker.

[Shadowcry1000]

@12gifts1

Your mom serves me there. In fact she does such a good job serving up shit, her boss made her pregnant and thats how you were born.

Now run along boy 

[Shadowcry1000]

@12gifts1 Your moms face is what I shit into

I told you its good, ask her yourself American pig.

[12gifts1]

@Shadowcry1000 I HEARD FROM YOU THAT MONGOLIA IS A SUPERPOWER.

[Shadowcry1000]

@12gifts1 Oh yeah Back in the day, 

[lordzilu1584]

@Shadowcry1000

Europeans were monkeys when compare to ancient Asian civilization

[Shadowcry1000]

@lordzilu1584 and now your countries suck western dick.

[boogiepop14mc]

@lordzilu1584 Look I admire East Asia as much as any white American can, but seriously without the widespread adoption of WESTERN science, technology and political administration East Asians would currently be starving to death and fighting over the Mandate of Heaven (Taiping Rebellion?). No race is superior, and all differences in cultural sophistication can ultimately be traced to historical, geographical and ecological variables.

[mauriceh995]

@boogiepop14mc but without the indians, chinese and iranians who contributed to science hundreds of years ago, western science, technogy and political administration would not have been possible. Asians make up a large percent in silican valley

[jax1492]

move back to asian then and get out of the usa if its so great

[Dan250983]

Soft power? They should show their soft power in the US itself. The poorest in the US, who have no health insurance, need the dentist send to asia. As I know in the US are more than 30mil people without HE. Thanks that I am in Germany and not in the US, where the Great Game is more important, than the health of the own people.

[covertcovenant]

48 million without health insurance in the U.S. to be a slight bit more precise ;)

[xFENRISx]

It's interesting though, that resources (including human resources) are distributed in such a way over the world. Even when you look at health insurance, humanitarian aid, energy, human resources etc we actually have enough to feed, house, provide energy and health cover to EVERYONE. The barrier is money. It divvies up these resources unevenly. It sustains things like coal power and encourages war. It's a fundamental problem.

[jankren]

Learn to read dumbfuck. I said Asia will SOON be the center of civilization. But NOT YET.